Trixbox with spyware/bot

Discussion in 'UK VOIP' started by voiptalker@gmail.com, Dec 17, 2007.

  1. Guest

    Trixboxers beware! Uncle Ward over at nerdvittles.com has posted an
    interesting article concerning a previously undisclosed bot that is
    hidden away in Trixbox. Basically, it does an "ET" and phones home
    every morning at 3.41am.
    Article here: http://nerdvittles.com/index.php?p=198

    Makes me glad I moved away from Trixbox to PBX-in-a-Flash.
     
    , Dec 17, 2007
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  2. voip Guest

    wrote:
    > Trixboxers beware! Uncle Ward over at nerdvittles.com has posted an
    > interesting article concerning a previously undisclosed bot that is
    > hidden away in Trixbox. Basically, it does an "ET" and phones home
    > every morning at 3.41am.
    > Article here: http://nerdvittles.com/index.php?p=198
    >
    > Makes me glad I moved away from Trixbox to PBX-in-a-Flash.
    >


    You could just compile asterisk from source - it doesn't phone home.
    Granted it won't have the pretty GUI that trixbox added.
     
    voip, Dec 17, 2007
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  3. TheFug Guest

    schreef:
    > Trixboxers beware! Uncle Ward over at nerdvittles.com has posted an
    > interesting article concerning a previously undisclosed bot that is
    > hidden away in Trixbox. Basically, it does an "ET" and phones home
    > every morning at 3.41am.
    > Article here: http://nerdvittles.com/index.php?p=198
    >
    > Makes me glad I moved away from Trixbox to PBX-in-a-Flash.
    >

    I guess it's a plug for PBX-in-a-Flash ??? :)

    btw the bot is a feature, what i understand, and i guess is easy to
    remove/switch off, what's the hassle :) ?

    --
    The Fug.
     
    TheFug, Dec 17, 2007
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  4. Guest

    On Dec 17, 6:57 pm, TheFug <> wrote:

    > > Makes me glad I moved away from Trixbox to PBX-in-a-Flash.

    >
    > I guess it's a plug for PBX-in-a-Flash ??? :)


    Well, OK yeah, I'll give it a plug! I've been a fan of Nerdvittles for
    a while - they have helped a lot of budding Asterisk@homers and
    Trixboxers for some time now with a lot of cool extras.

    Moving off Trixbox was something I'd been thinking of for a while for
    a few reasons. Without going into great detail, the Fonality buyout
    (or is it buyin?) of A@home seemed to herald a change of direction in
    the project. I had also been looking at Elastix (which supposedly has
    reliable faxability) and CentPBX as a replacement.

    > btw the bot is a feature, what i understand, and i guess is easy to
    > remove/switch off, what's the hassle :) ?


    True. Yes, it *can* be switched off, and it was only sending back
    "unidentifiable user stats" to HQ, but the point that I wouldn't feel
    comfortable with is that they weren't exactly upfront about it. I
    think it may have been better to make it a user option to send info as
    part of the installation process or even include it as part of the
    Terms and Conditions. But then again, how many of us really read those
    before just clicking the accept button?

    Anyway, that's my 2ps worth.
     
    , Dec 17, 2007
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  5. On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:57:21 -0500, voip <> wrote:

    >You could just compile asterisk from source - it doesn't phone home.
    >Granted it won't have the pretty GUI that trixbox added.


    I can't be very scientific about it, but Trixbox is the only one that
    I've managed to get to work with HFC cards.
    I had no joy on Debian or Mandrake.

    WIth Trixbox, ISTR it was pretty straightforward.
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    David Quinton, Dec 18, 2007
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  6. In article <>,
    David Quinton <> wrote:
    >On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:57:21 -0500, voip <> wrote:
    >
    >>You could just compile asterisk from source - it doesn't phone home.
    >>Granted it won't have the pretty GUI that trixbox added.

    >
    >I can't be very scientific about it, but Trixbox is the only one that
    >I've managed to get to work with HFC cards.
    >I had no joy on Debian or Mandrake.


    The HFC cards are "generic" ISDN cards. Using the mISDN drivers they
    "just work"...

    My pbx-inna-box uses a Debian variant (booting from flash) and works
    just fine with HFC cards...

    So if you take the time to compile up your own asterisk & modules, etc.
    then it might be worth it for you.

    >WIth Trixbox, ISTR it was pretty straightforward.


    Maybe you need the GUI front-end independant of the underlying asterisk,
    etc. so just install FreePBX after asterisk?

    Gordon
     
    Gordon Henderson, Dec 18, 2007
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  7. On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:28:03 +0000 (UTC), Gordon Henderson
    <> wrote:

    >My pbx-inna-box uses a Debian variant (booting from flash) and works
    >just fine with HFC cards...
    >
    >So if you take the time to compile up your own asterisk & modules, etc.
    >then it might be worth it for you.


    It was a year or two ago, but I'm pretty sure I can remember compiling
    it from source (on the Mandrake - probably not with Debian)

    >
    >>WIth Trixbox, ISTR it was pretty straightforward.

    >
    >Maybe you need the GUI front-end independant of the underlying asterisk,
    >etc. so just install FreePBX after asterisk?


    I think you're right, Gordon.
    Most of the stuff I'm doing overrides the Trixbox stuff anyway.
    But it's working fine as the office PBX and seems to cope with the
    Dialplan and PHPAGI apps I've been writing.
    So, for time being at leaast "if it ain't broke..."
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    David Quinton, Dec 19, 2007
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  8. TheFug Guest

    schreef:
    > On Dec 17, 6:57 pm, TheFug <> wrote:
    >
    >>> Makes me glad I moved away from Trixbox to PBX-in-a-Flash.

    >> I guess it's a plug for PBX-in-a-Flash ??? :)

    >
    > Well, OK yeah, I'll give it a plug! I've been a fan of Nerdvittles for
    > a while - they have helped a lot of budding Asterisk@homers and
    > Trixboxers for some time now with a lot of cool extras.
    >
    > Moving off Trixbox was something I'd been thinking of for a while for
    > a few reasons. Without going into great detail, the Fonality buyout
    > (or is it buyin?) of A@home seemed to herald a change of direction in
    > the project. I had also been looking at Elastix (which supposedly has
    > reliable faxability) and CentPBX as a replacement.
    >
    >> btw the bot is a feature, what i understand, and i guess is easy to
    >> remove/switch off, what's the hassle :) ?

    >
    > True. Yes, it *can* be switched off, and it was only sending back
    > "unidentifiable user stats" to HQ, but the point that I wouldn't feel
    > comfortable with is that they weren't exactly upfront about it. I
    > think it may have been better to make it a user option to send info as
    > part of the installation process or even include it as part of the
    > Terms and Conditions. But then again, how many of us really read those
    > before just clicking the accept button?
    >
    > Anyway, that's my 2ps worth.


    Yes, and it's the great thing of Usenet, to share one's experience, i
    understand "Flash" points out that it's fast, not that a thumb memory
    stick is used, and that it's based on a CentOS Linux distro, i'm also
    interested in setting up a PBX server, to connect my normal POTS phone
    to, Internet,(VoIP/SIP) and my incomming POTS landline,
    What's better to use, i now have a SPA3102 ATA, also have a grandstream
    GXP2000 now...or is a Digium PCI card, a better solution ? ( i want to
    be able to receive normal landline calls too) for phoning mostly by
    VoIP/SIP ?

    --
    The Fug.
     
    TheFug, Dec 20, 2007
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  9. Guest

    On 20 Dec, 18:50, TheFug <> wrote:

    > Yes, and it's the great thing of Usenet, to share one's experience, i
    > understand "Flash" points out that it's fast, not that a thumb memory
    > stick is used, and that it's based on a CentOS Linux distro


    Forgive me Fug if I misunderstand you, but I think maybe English is
    not your first language. The name PBX-in-a-flash could have a couple
    of meanings - 1) PBX in a flash (usb memory stick drive or flash card
    maybe) or 2) as in the expression "in a flash" meaning in an instant,
    rather than performing quickly - i.e. quick to setup. As a side note I
    had tried a virtual Trixbox running on a Compact Flash card on a
    Windows machine which worked, but not too well under a load of 2 or
    more calls at once......

    > , i'm also
    > interested in setting up a PBX server, to connect my normal POTS phone
    > to, Internet,(VoIP/SIP) and my incomming POTS landline,
    > What's better to use, i now have a SPA3102 ATA, also have a grandstream
    > GXP2000 now...or is a Digium PCI card, a better solution ? ( i want to
    > be able to receive normal landline calls too) for phoning mostly by
    > VoIP/SIP ?


    Any asterisk distribution will handle what you want to do. If you
    don't want to get your hands too dirty, any of the distributions with
    a GUI like FreePBX (trixbox, PBX-in-a-flash, elastix, centPBX etc)
    makes setting up a working PBX very simple for untechy people like
    myself. Even for techy people they can save a lot of time getting
    things to work. Of course, as Gordon suggests abovr, you could install
    FreePBX after installing asterisk.

    The choice between a SPA3102 and a Digum card is down to you. The
    Spa3012 is cheaper and does the job well. It's also probably easier to
    set up to work reliably (some may disagree).
     
    , Dec 21, 2007
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  10. TheFug Guest

    schreef:
    > On 20 Dec, 18:50, TheFug <> wrote:
    >
    >> Yes, and it's the great thing of Usenet, to share one's experience, i
    >> understand "Flash" points out that it's fast, not that a thumb memory
    >> stick is used, and that it's based on a CentOS Linux distro

    >
    > Forgive me Fug if I misunderstand you, but I think maybe English is
    > not your first language.


    Correct, i'm living in the Netherlands

    > The name PBX-in-a-flash could have a couple
    > of meanings - 1) PBX in a flash (usb memory stick drive or flash card
    > maybe)

    so even you aren't sure...

    > or 2) as in the expression "in a flash" meaning in an instant,
    > rather than performing quickly - i.e. quick to setup. As a side note I
    > had tried a virtual Trixbox running on a Compact Flash card on a
    > Windows machine which worked, but not too well under a load of 2 or
    > more calls at once......
    >

    yeah, that's why i asked it, but from your answer, i guess it means the
    both of them....are meant, by Flash: fast,(as in speed) and USB/CF
    memory, i guess because there are also small mobo's (and thin servers)
    that use only CompactFlash as storage...

    >> , i'm also
    >> interested in setting up a PBX server, to connect my normal POTS phone
    >> to, Internet,(VoIP/SIP) and my incomming POTS landline,
    >> What's better to use, i now have a SPA3102 ATA, also have a grandstream
    >> GXP2000 now...or is a Digium PCI card, a better solution ? ( i want to
    >> be able to receive normal landline calls too) for phoning mostly by
    >> VoIP/SIP ?

    >
    > Any asterisk distribution will handle what you want to do. If you
    > don't want to get your hands too dirty, any of the distributions with
    > a GUI like FreePBX (trixbox, PBX-in-a-flash, elastix, centPBX etc)
    > makes setting up a working PBX very simple for untechy people like
    > myself. Even for techy people they can save a lot of time getting
    > things to work. Of course, as Gordon suggests abovr, you could install
    > FreePBX after installing asterisk.
    >

    Thankyou for these tips...

    > The choice between a SPA3102 and a Digum card is down to you. The
    > Spa3012 is cheaper and does the job well. It's also probably easier to
    > set up to work reliably (some may disagree).


    Thankyou, that saves a lot, because i allready have the spa3102...
    I only thought the Asterisk software was more dedicated to the Digium
    card, instead of the SPA3102, but i guess the SPA is also very populair,
    lucky me..:)


    --
    The Fug.
     
    TheFug, Dec 22, 2007
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