Torque Screws

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Andy Simpson, Feb 13, 2006.

  1. Andy Simpson

    Andy Simpson Guest

    Where could I get some torque screws from in Christchurch?

    I need to screw an SCA SCSI hard drive into an HP/Compaq Hot-Plug drive
    carrier.

    Cheers, Andy.
    Andy Simpson, Feb 13, 2006
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  2. Andy Simpson

    Rob J Guest

    In article <cLSHf.144475$>,
    am says...
    > Where could I get some torque screws from in Christchurch?


    Sure you don't mean Torx?
    Rob J, Feb 13, 2006
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  3. Andy Simpson wrote:
    > Where could I get some torque screws from in Christchurch?
    >
    > I need to screw an SCA SCSI hard drive into an HP/Compaq Hot-Plug drive
    > carrier.
    >
    > Cheers, Andy.


    I think you mean Torx head screws.

    Surely the size, thread pitch and length are more important than the head
    socket style.
    Mark Robinson, Feb 13, 2006
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  4. Andy Simpson

    Dave Taylor Guest

    Andy Simpson <> wrote in news:cLSHf.144475$vH5.1195325
    @news.xtra.co.nz:

    > Where could I get some torque screws from in Christchurch?
    >
    > I need to screw an SCA SCSI hard drive into an HP/Compaq Hot-Plug drive
    > carrier.
    >
    > Cheers, Andy.



    DSE has a set of common "strange" heads and gets the job done in a pinch.

    Like others have said, you probably have the wrong name for the head.

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    Ciao, Dave
    Dave Taylor, Feb 13, 2006
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  5. Andy Simpson

    Andy Simpson Guest

    Dave Taylor wrote:
    > Andy Simpson <> wrote in news:cLSHf.144475$vH5.1195325
    > @news.xtra.co.nz:
    >
    >
    >>Where could I get some torque screws from in Christchurch?
    >>
    >>I need to screw an SCA SCSI hard drive into an HP/Compaq Hot-Plug drive
    >>carrier.
    >>
    >>Cheers, Andy.

    >
    >
    >
    > DSE has a set of common "strange" heads and gets the job done in a pinch.
    >
    > Like others have said, you probably have the wrong name for the head.
    >


    Yes, Torx size 15 is the head, I'm after the screws however, not the
    screw drivers
    Andy Simpson, Feb 13, 2006
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  6. Andy Simpson

    Don Hills Guest

    In article <Xns9769B5CBC159Bdaveytaynospamplshot@203.97.37.6>,
    Dave Taylor <> wrote:
    >
    >Like others have said, you probably have the wrong name for the head.


    He has the wrong name, as has been pointed out the correct term is "Torx".
    But he really does need Torx head screws. Compaq use them as "rails", the
    heads slide into slots in the disk mounting frames. Most Compaq systems I've
    looked at have two spare sets of Torx head screws included with the machine,
    screwed into the metal front panel (behind the plastic one). The threads are
    different, one set is to fit hard disks and the other for floppy drives I
    think. (It's a real nuisance having two different thread pitches, you need
    to have both threads in stock if you add drives to machines on a regular
    basis.)

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    Don Hills, Feb 13, 2006
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  7. Andy Simpson

    Jerry Guest

    Don Hills wrote:
    > In article <Xns9769B5CBC159Bdaveytaynospamplshot@203.97.37.6>,
    > Dave Taylor <> wrote:
    >
    >>Like others have said, you probably have the wrong name for the head.

    >
    >
    > He has the wrong name, as has been pointed out the correct term is "Torx".
    > But he really does need Torx head screws. Compaq use them as "rails", the
    > heads slide into slots in the disk mounting frames. Most Compaq systems I've
    > looked at have two spare sets of Torx head screws included with the machine,
    > screwed into the metal front panel (behind the plastic one). The threads are
    > different, one set is to fit hard disks and the other for floppy drives I
    > think. (It's a real nuisance having two different thread pitches, you need
    > to have both threads in stock if you add drives to machines on a regular
    > basis.)
    >


    You get 50% - they are for hard or optical drives. In an emergency any
    round headed screw will work, well, anything that will more or less fit
    in the slot. I've seen more than a few people that don't worry much
    about screw pitches, you just have to turn the screw harder, especially
    on an optical drive. Don't worry about the aluminium shavings, they are
    small.

    Somehow spare screws seem to multiply. I'm quite careful to put back
    all the bits I took out, and still have a huge selection of screws.
    Jerry, Feb 13, 2006
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  8. Andy Simpson

    Ewen McNeill Guest

    In article <cLSHf.144475$>,
    Andy Simpson <> wrote:
    >Where could I get some torque screws from in Christchurch?
    >I need to screw an SCA SCSI hard drive into an HP/Compaq Hot-Plug drive
    >carrier.


    If you're doing what I had to do recently (put generic SCA hard drives
    into modern HP hotplug trays -- eg DL380 G3, and many more) then the
    head on the bolts doesn't matter much, but the thread (both pitch and
    length) matters a lot. The threads I needed were 6-32 UNC 2B (mentioned
    in quite a few harddrive specs), about 1/3rd of an inch long, which is
    a very common US standard but difficult to track down in New Zealand.
    (It's "6 guage", 32 threads per inch, with the UNC 2B thread pitch.
    Surprisingly even some fastner specialists in NZ had trouble decoding
    that.)

    After much searching the best source I found was:

    http://www.blackwoodspaykels.co.nz/

    They appear to have a Christchurch branch.

    I bought the SCREW M/T SS304 PAN UNC PHIL 6-32 X 1/2" (part 940644)
    but it's borderline too long for the drives, even with the thickness of
    the carrier. If I were doing it again I'd buy the SCREW M/T SS304 PAN
    UNC PHIL 6-32 X 5/16" (part 1503487), which is a bit shorter. Both are
    philips head rather than torx, but worked fine for me. About $30
    including shipping for a box of 100.

    If you're using old enough Compaq kit that it uses the bolt heads as
    an integral part of the tray slide/locking mechanism then that won't
    work for you (and your best option is probably to raid an old machine).
    But my recollection is that none of those trays were (a) SCA or (b)
    hotplug -- they were typically IDE in desktops.

    Ewen
    Ewen McNeill, Feb 13, 2006
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  9. Andy Simpson

    Dave Taylor Guest

    Jerry <> wrote in news:43f030cf$:

    > Don't worry about the aluminium shavings, they are
    > small.
    >


    U-huh
    After you drive the server to someplace and the shaving moves...

    --
    Ciao, Dave
    Dave Taylor, Feb 13, 2006
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  10. Andy Simpson

    EMB Guest

    Andy Simpson wrote:

    > Yes, Torx size 15 is the head, I'm after the screws however, not the
    > screw drivers


    If you're really stuck i could probably find some and courier them to
    you. How many are you after?


    --
    EMB
    EMB, Feb 13, 2006
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  11. Super Cheap Auto also has them...cheap!
    Whalemeat is Yummy, Feb 13, 2006
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  12. Andy Simpson

    Barry Lennox Guest

    On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:08:57 +1300, Andy Simpson
    <> wrote:

    >Where could I get some torque screws from in Christchurch?
    >
    >I need to screw an SCA SCSI hard drive into an HP/Compaq Hot-Plug drive
    >carrier.
    >
    >Cheers, Andy.


    Try Wilson Bros or Hylton-Parker Fasteners, both around the Middleton
    area off Birmingham Drive.

    Yellow Pages under Fasteners will prob turn up more options
    Barry Lennox, Feb 13, 2006
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  13. T'was the Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:18:15 +1300 when I remembered "Whalemeat
    is Yummy" <> saying something like this:

    >Super Cheap Auto also has them...cheap!


    Super Cheap?:)
    --
    Cheers,

    Waylon Kenning.
    See my blog at http://spaces.msn.com/WaylonKenning/
    Waylon Kenning, Feb 13, 2006
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  14. Andy Simpson

    Rob J Guest

    In article <>,
    says...
    > In article <Xns9769B5CBC159Bdaveytaynospamplshot@203.97.37.6>,
    > Dave Taylor <> wrote:
    > >
    > >Like others have said, you probably have the wrong name for the head.

    >
    > He has the wrong name, as has been pointed out the correct term is "Torx".
    > But he really does need Torx head screws.


    The Compaq screwless chassis screws I remember are actually slotted and
    can be turned with a small blade screwdriver. They don't resemble any
    Torx head I ever saw.

    > Compaq use them as "rails", the
    > heads slide into slots in the disk mounting frames. Most Compaq systems I've
    > looked at have two spare sets of Torx head screws included with the machine,
    > screwed into the metal front panel (behind the plastic one). The threads are
    > different, one set is to fit hard disks and the other for floppy drives I
    > think. (It's a real nuisance having two different thread pitches, you need
    > to have both threads in stock if you add drives to machines on a regular
    > basis.)


    The different threads are different head sizes physically.
    Some other manufacturers also use these special screws. Foxconn uses
    them in their tower cases, and Dell or Intel server chassis use them as
    well. I don't recall if these are special heads.
    Rob J, Feb 14, 2006
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