Thunderbird Spam Filter

Discussion in 'Firefox' started by David Ellis, Feb 18, 2006.

  1. David Ellis

    David Ellis Guest

    I get email from several sites that Thunderbird continually opens the
    yellow bar saying; "Thunderbird thinks this is Spam." How do I get rid
    of that for the email I want to keep?

    I click the Not Spam button but that doesn't help a bit. I tried putting
    the senders addresses in my Address Book and that does not help.

    What do I do now?

    TIA
     
    David Ellis, Feb 18, 2006
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  2. David Ellis wrote:
    > I get email from several sites that Thunderbird continually opens the
    > yellow bar saying; "Thunderbird thinks this is Spam." How do I get rid
    > of that for the email I want to keep?
    >
    > I click the Not Spam button but that doesn't help a bit. I tried
    > putting the senders addresses in my Address Book and that does not help.
    >
    > What do I do now?
    >
    > TIA

    What exactly do you mean when you say clicking Not Spam doesnt help a bit?
    The message should not be marked as junk anymore... does this occur?

    If you are talking about newsletters or some such, then you may wish to
    use a filter to move the messages out of your inbox (filters come before
    JMC)
     
    Moz Champion (Dan), Feb 19, 2006
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  3. David Ellis

    David Ellis Guest

    Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    > David Ellis wrote:
    >> I get email from several sites that Thunderbird continually opens the
    >> yellow bar saying; "Thunderbird thinks this is Spam." How do I get rid
    >> of that for the email I want to keep?
    >>
    >> I click the Not Spam button but that doesn't help a bit. I tried
    >> putting the senders addresses in my Address Book and that does not help.
    >>
    >> What do I do now?
    >>
    >> TIA

    > What exactly do you mean when you say clicking Not Spam doesnt help a bit?
    > The message should not be marked as junk anymore... does this occur?
    >
    > If you are talking about newsletters or some such, then you may wish to
    > use a filter to move the messages out of your inbox (filters come before
    > JMC)


    When I click on the Not Spam button the message can be stored, etc.
    However, the next instance of an email from the same address is marked
    as possible Spam. These are newsletters but I would rather move them
    manually to be sure I do not miss valuable information rather than use a
    filter or such.

    Any Ideas?
     
    David Ellis, Feb 20, 2006
    #3
  4. David Ellis wrote:
    > Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    >> David Ellis wrote:
    >>> I get email from several sites that Thunderbird continually opens
    >>> the yellow bar saying; "Thunderbird thinks this is Spam." How do I
    >>> get rid of that for the email I want to keep?
    >>>
    >>> I click the Not Spam button but that doesn't help a bit. I tried
    >>> putting the senders addresses in my Address Book and that does not
    >>> help.
    >>>
    >>> What do I do now?
    >>>
    >>> TIA

    >> What exactly do you mean when you say clicking Not Spam doesnt help a
    >> bit?
    >> The message should not be marked as junk anymore... does this occur?
    >>
    >> If you are talking about newsletters or some such, then you may wish
    >> to use a filter to move the messages out of your inbox (filters come
    >> before JMC)

    >
    > When I click on the Not Spam button the message can be stored, etc.
    > However, the next instance of an email from the same address is marked
    > as possible Spam. These are newsletters but I would rather move them
    > manually to be sure I do not miss valuable information rather than use
    > a filter or such.
    >
    > Any Ideas?

    Yes, use a filter to move the message prior to JMC seeing it.
    For example, for my newsletters, which I consider valuable and would
    rather not miss, I filter them to a 'Publications' folder, so that JMC
    doesnt see them. All my 'valuable' newsletters are then available in
    the folder.
     
    Moz Champion (Dan), Feb 20, 2006
    #4
  5. David Ellis

    gwtc Guest

    Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:

    > David Ellis wrote:
    >
    >>Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    >>
    >>>David Ellis wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>I get email from several sites that Thunderbird continually opens
    >>>>the yellow bar saying; "Thunderbird thinks this is Spam." How do I
    >>>>get rid of that for the email I want to keep?
    >>>>
    >>>>I click the Not Spam button but that doesn't help a bit. I tried
    >>>>putting the senders addresses in my Address Book and that does not
    >>>>help.
    >>>>
    >>>>What do I do now?
    >>>>
    >>>>TIA
    >>>
    >>>What exactly do you mean when you say clicking Not Spam doesnt help a
    >>>bit?
    >>>The message should not be marked as junk anymore... does this occur?
    >>>
    >>>If you are talking about newsletters or some such, then you may wish
    >>>to use a filter to move the messages out of your inbox (filters come
    >>>before JMC)

    >>
    >>When I click on the Not Spam button the message can be stored, etc.
    >>However, the next instance of an email from the same address is marked
    >>as possible Spam. These are newsletters but I would rather move them
    >>manually to be sure I do not miss valuable information rather than use
    >>a filter or such.
    >>
    >>Any Ideas?

    >
    > Yes, use a filter to move the message prior to JMC seeing it.
    > For example, for my newsletters, which I consider valuable and would
    > rather not miss, I filter them to a 'Publications' folder, so that JMC
    > doesnt see them. All my 'valuable' newsletters are then available in
    > the folder.
    >

    it should be noted that Message Filters (under Tools) take priority
    over JMC filters.
     
    gwtc, Feb 20, 2006
    #5
  6. On 2006-02-20, David Ellis <> wrote:

    > When I click on the Not Spam button the message can be stored, etc.
    > However, the next instance of an email from the same address is marked
    > as possible Spam. These are newsletters but I would rather move them
    > manually to be sure I do not miss valuable information rather than use a
    > filter or such.


    If these come from specific, recurring addresses, create a filter rule
    based on these addesses to unmark them as Junk and move them to an
    appropriate folder automatically.

    --

    John ()
     
    John Thompson, Feb 21, 2006
    #6
  7. David Ellis

    David Ellis Guest

    John Thompson wrote:
    > On 2006-02-20, David Ellis <> wrote:
    >
    >> When I click on the Not Spam button the message can be stored, etc.
    >> However, the next instance of an email from the same address is marked
    >> as possible Spam. These are newsletters but I would rather move them
    >> manually to be sure I do not miss valuable information rather than use a
    >> filter or such.

    >
    > If these come from specific, recurring addresses, create a filter rule
    > based on these addesses to unmark them as Junk and move them to an
    > appropriate folder automatically.
    >

    Did that and the email is moved but when I open any of the newsletters
    the Scam notice comes up. How do I set up a trusted site or email
    address(es) for this?

    The newsletters provide a lot of information I use daily.

    TIA
     
    David Ellis, Feb 22, 2006
    #7
  8. David Ellis wrote:
    > John Thompson wrote:
    >> On 2006-02-20, David Ellis <> wrote:
    >>
    >>> When I click on the Not Spam button the message can be stored, etc.
    >>> However, the next instance of an email from the same address is
    >>> marked as possible Spam. These are newsletters but I would rather
    >>> move them manually to be sure I do not miss valuable information
    >>> rather than use a filter or such.

    >>
    >> If these come from specific, recurring addresses, create a filter
    >> rule based on these addesses to unmark them as Junk and move them to
    >> an appropriate folder automatically.
    >>

    > Did that and the email is moved but when I open any of the newsletters
    > the Scam notice comes up. How do I set up a trusted site or email
    > address(es) for this?
    >
    > The newsletters provide a lot of information I use daily.
    >
    > TIA

    Do you mean SCAM or SPAM notice?
    The Scam detection is new in Thunderbird, and for the moment is
    untrainable. You have the choice of leaving Scam detection on (and
    living with what it detects) or turning it off.
    [Thunderbird-->Preferences]*-->Privacy [E-mail Scams]

    As the preference says, it detects common tricks that may be used to
    deceive you, but unfortuately, these 'tricks' are also used in
    legitimate mail as well.
    If it bothers you that much, then turn it off. After all, we lived
    without it for years <g>

    *varies by OS
    windows
    [Tools-->Options]
    linux
    [Edit-->Preferences]
    mac
    [Thunderbird-->Preferences]
     
    Moz Champion (Dan), Feb 23, 2006
    #8
  9. David Ellis

    David Ellis Guest

    Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    > David Ellis wrote:
    >> John Thompson wrote:
    >>> On 2006-02-20, David Ellis <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> When I click on the Not Spam button the message can be stored, etc.
    >>>> However, the next instance of an email from the same address is
    >>>> marked as possible Spam. These are newsletters but I would rather
    >>>> move them manually to be sure I do not miss valuable information
    >>>> rather than use a filter or such.
    >>>
    >>> If these come from specific, recurring addresses, create a filter
    >>> rule based on these addesses to unmark them as Junk and move them to
    >>> an appropriate folder automatically.
    >>>

    >> Did that and the email is moved but when I open any of the newsletters
    >> the Scam notice comes up. How do I set up a trusted site or email
    >> address(es) for this?
    >>
    >> The newsletters provide a lot of information I use daily.
    >>
    >> TIA

    > Do you mean SCAM or SPAM notice?
    > The Scam detection is new in Thunderbird, and for the moment is
    > untrainable. You have the choice of leaving Scam detection on (and
    > living with what it detects) or turning it off.
    > [Thunderbird-->Preferences]*-->Privacy [E-mail Scams]
    >
    > As the preference says, it detects common tricks that may be used to
    > deceive you, but unfortuately, these 'tricks' are also used in
    > legitimate mail as well. If it bothers you that much, then turn it off.
    > After all, we lived without it for years <g>
    >
    > *varies by OS
    > windows
    > [Tools-->Options]
    > linux
    > [Edit-->Preferences]
    > mac
    > [Thunderbird-->Preferences]

    Thanks, Dan. Some days I wonder about my ability to think. I did mean
    the "Scam" button not spam. The spam issue is under control here. I hope
    the folks working this product get the scam notice into a trainable mode
    soon. I turned mine off, it was too intrusive and way too many false
    positives.
     
    David Ellis, Feb 25, 2006
    #9
  10. David Ellis wrote:
    > Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    >> David Ellis wrote:
    >>> John Thompson wrote:
    >>>> On 2006-02-20, David Ellis <> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> When I click on the Not Spam button the message can be stored,
    >>>>> etc. However, the next instance of an email from the same address
    >>>>> is marked as possible Spam. These are newsletters but I would
    >>>>> rather move them manually to be sure I do not miss valuable
    >>>>> information rather than use a filter or such.
    >>>>
    >>>> If these come from specific, recurring addresses, create a filter
    >>>> rule based on these addesses to unmark them as Junk and move them
    >>>> to an appropriate folder automatically.
    >>>>
    >>> Did that and the email is moved but when I open any of the
    >>> newsletters the Scam notice comes up. How do I set up a trusted site
    >>> or email address(es) for this?
    >>>
    >>> The newsletters provide a lot of information I use daily.
    >>>
    >>> TIA

    >> Do you mean SCAM or SPAM notice?
    >> The Scam detection is new in Thunderbird, and for the moment is
    >> untrainable. You have the choice of leaving Scam detection on (and
    >> living with what it detects) or turning it off.
    >> [Thunderbird-->Preferences]*-->Privacy [E-mail Scams]
    >>
    >> As the preference says, it detects common tricks that may be used to
    >> deceive you, but unfortuately, these 'tricks' are also used in
    >> legitimate mail as well. If it bothers you that much, then turn it
    >> off. After all, we lived without it for years <g>
    >>
    >> *varies by OS
    >> windows
    >> [Tools-->Options]
    >> linux
    >> [Edit-->Preferences]
    >> mac
    >> [Thunderbird-->Preferences]

    > Thanks, Dan. Some days I wonder about my ability to think. I did mean
    > the "Scam" button not spam. The spam issue is under control here. I
    > hope the folks working this product get the scam notice into a
    > trainable mode soon. I turned mine off, it was too intrusive and way
    > too many false positives.

    I see the feature as a boon to 'cautioning' users, and alerting them to
    messages that may be phishing attempts. Its an attempt to provide some
    manner of 'protection' against phishing. Admittedly its not perfect, and
    does have a lot of false positives, but I havent noticed it missing any
    real phishing ones either (caveat: I havent kept a close watch on it)

    I dont know if it will become trainable
     
    Moz Champion (Dan), Feb 25, 2006
    #10
  11. On 2006-02-22, David Ellis <> wrote:

    > John Thompson wrote:
    >> On 2006-02-20, David Ellis <> wrote:
    >>
    >>> When I click on the Not Spam button the message can be stored, etc.
    >>> However, the next instance of an email from the same address is marked
    >>> as possible Spam. These are newsletters but I would rather move them
    >>> manually to be sure I do not miss valuable information rather than use a
    >>> filter or such.

    >>
    >> If these come from specific, recurring addresses, create a filter rule
    >> based on these addesses to unmark them as Junk and move them to an
    >> appropriate folder automatically.


    > Did that and the email is moved but when I open any of the newsletters
    > the Scam notice comes up. How do I set up a trusted site or email
    > address(es) for this?
    >
    > The newsletters provide a lot of information I use daily.


    Create a filter action that changes the message status to "Not Junk"

    --

    John ()
     
    John Thompson, Feb 25, 2006
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