Thunderbird moving Spam emails to Trash, not Spam folder

Discussion in 'Firefox' started by SW Monkey, Mar 1, 2006.

  1. SW Monkey

    SW Monkey Guest

    For some reason, Tbird is moving spam messages to the trash folder
    rather than the Spam folder. Spam filters are setup to do this, but
    its not working correctly.

    What file saves these settings? Maybe I an delete the file and
    reconfigure.
     
    SW Monkey, Mar 1, 2006
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  2. SW Monkey wrote:
    > For some reason, Tbird is moving spam messages to the trash folder
    > rather than the Spam folder. Spam filters are setup to do this, but
    > its not working correctly.
    >
    > What file saves these settings? Maybe I an delete the file and
    > reconfigure.
    >
    >

    Recheck your Junk Mail Controls for each account
    ensure that the folder selected for the spams is properly identified for
    each account

    Temporarily disable the automatic trash option as well (in Junk Mail
    Controls)
    just to see if that is impacting the situation.
     
    Moz Champion (Dan), Mar 2, 2006
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  3. SW Monkey

    SW Monkey Guest

    Tried that, didnt work.

    Any other ideas? Is there a file that saves these settings? Maybe I
    can modify/delete it and start fresh.
     
    SW Monkey, Mar 3, 2006
    #3
  4. SW Monkey

    Arne Guest

    Once upon a time *SW Monkey* wrote:
    > Tried that, didnt work.


    What do you tried that didnt work?

    > Any other ideas? Is there a file that saves these settings? Maybe I
    > can modify/delete it and start fresh.


    What settings? Ideas about what?

    --
    /Arne

    Google Group Users, read about The Usenet Improvement Project:
    http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
     
    Arne, Mar 3, 2006
    #4
  5. SW Monkey

    gwtc Guest

    Arne wrote:

    > Once upon a time *SW Monkey* wrote:
    >
    >>Tried that, didnt work.

    >
    >
    > What do you tried that didnt work?
    >
    >
    >>Any other ideas? Is there a file that saves these settings? Maybe I
    >>can modify/delete it and start fresh.

    >
    >
    > What settings? Ideas about what?
    >

    thats what happens when someone uses google groups
     
    gwtc, Mar 3, 2006
    #5
  6. SW Monkey

    SW Monkey Guest

    Your link about Usenet Improvement is a pretty lame excuse to be "old
    school". Whats wrong with using Google Groups for usenet, give me a
    list? You state "people who post to Usenet via the clunky Google
    Groups web interface are lamers" and "they have no idea what Usenet
    is". Ive been using the usenet for a long time, and Google Groups
    only makes it easier to post from any computer, not to mention search
    old threads. Sure I use my newsgroup client at home, but whats wrong
    with using GG from other computers?

    It just sounds like you are "old school", and insist that everyone use
    newsgroup clients ONLY. Please dont suggest I dig up my C64 from my
    closet and connect to a bbs system thru my 2400 baud modem... lol :p

    *******************************************
    Below is the first post in this thread.
    *********************************************
    From: SW Monkey - view profile
    Date: Wed, Mar 1 2006 1:13 pm
    Email: "SW Monkey" <>
    Groups: alt.fan.mozilla


    For some reason, Tbird is moving spam messages to the trash folder
    rather than the Spam folder. Spam filters are setup to do this, but
    its not working correctly.

    What file saves these settings? Maybe I an delete the file and
    reconfigure.




    From: Moz Champion (Dan) - view profile
    Date: Wed, Mar 1 2006 6:56 pm
    Email: "Moz Champion (Dan)" <>
    Groups: alt.fan.mozilla


    SW Monkey wrote:
    > For some reason, Tbird is moving spam messages to the trash folder
    > rather than the Spam folder. Spam filters are setup to do this, but
    > its not working correctly.


    > What file saves these settings? Maybe I an delete the file and
    > reconfigure.




    Recheck your Junk Mail Controls for each account
    ensure that the folder selected for the spams is properly identified
    for
    each account

    Temporarily disable the automatic trash option as well (in Junk Mail
    Controls)
    just to see if that is impacting the situation.
     
    SW Monkey, Mar 3, 2006
    #6
  7. SW Monkey

    Ed Mullen Guest

    SW Monkey wrote:
    > Your link about Usenet Improvement is a pretty lame excuse to be "old
    > school". Whats wrong with using Google Groups for usenet, give me a
    > list? You state "people who post to Usenet via the clunky Google
    > Groups web interface are lamers" and "they have no idea what Usenet
    > is". Ive been using the usenet for a long time, and Google Groups
    > only makes it easier to post from any computer, not to mention search
    > old threads. Sure I use my newsgroup client at home, but whats wrong
    > with using GG from other computers?
    >
    > It just sounds like you are "old school", and insist that everyone use
    > newsgroup clients ONLY. Please dont suggest I dig up my C64 from my
    > closet and connect to a bbs system thru my 2400 baud modem... lol :p
    >
    > *******************************************
    > Below is the first post in this thread.
    > *********************************************
    > From: SW Monkey - view profile
    > Date: Wed, Mar 1 2006 1:13 pm
    > Email: "SW Monkey" <>
    > Groups: alt.fan.mozilla
    >
    >
    > For some reason, Tbird is moving spam messages to the trash folder
    > rather than the Spam folder. Spam filters are setup to do this, but
    > its not working correctly.
    >
    > What file saves these settings? Maybe I an delete the file and
    > reconfigure.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > From: Moz Champion (Dan) - view profile
    > Date: Wed, Mar 1 2006 6:56 pm
    > Email: "Moz Champion (Dan)" <>
    > Groups: alt.fan.mozilla
    >
    >
    > SW Monkey wrote:
    >> For some reason, Tbird is moving spam messages to the trash folder
    >> rather than the Spam folder. Spam filters are setup to do this, but
    >> its not working correctly.

    >
    >> What file saves these settings? Maybe I an delete the file and
    >> reconfigure.

    >
    >
    >
    > Recheck your Junk Mail Controls for each account
    > ensure that the folder selected for the spams is properly identified
    > for
    > each account
    >
    > Temporarily disable the automatic trash option as well (in Junk Mail
    > Controls)
    > just to see if that is impacting the situation.
    >


    For one thing ...

    (having trouble figuring out what I'm replying to? Yeah, me too. Keep
    reading.)

    .... the mish-mash of broken quoting (above) that is in your Google-based
    post is something that a good news client doesn't do. And that's what
    gwtc was referring to.

    Yes, Google is a nice tool for when you're on the road with no laptop or
    your usual access. Yes, it's a handy archive search tool. But,
    frankly, if you're replying to a message that has dropped off of most
    decent news servers it's probably so old you shouldn't bother responding
    to it. And you need to learn which button to use to Reply or Google
    creates this mangled reply structure. It's a royal pain in the butt to
    try to decipher compared to replies made via direct-access,
    well-performing, news clients.

    And, by the way, most people in this group bottom-post, unlike what you
    did. No one can force you to do anything but you'll get better
    responses to your posts if you take some time and figure out what the
    generally accepted practices are here and follow them. It's the old
    "When in Rome ..." adage.

    --
    Ed Mullen
    http://edmullen.net
    http://mozilla.edmullen.net
    http://abington.edmullen.net
     
    Ed Mullen, Mar 3, 2006
    #7
  8. SW Monkey

    gwtc Guest

    Ed Mullen wrote:

    > SW Monkey wrote:
    >
    >>Your link about Usenet Improvement is a pretty lame excuse to be "old
    >>school". Whats wrong with using Google Groups for usenet, give me a
    >>list? You state "people who post to Usenet via the clunky Google
    >>Groups web interface are lamers" and "they have no idea what Usenet
    >>is". Ive been using the usenet for a long time, and Google Groups
    >>only makes it easier to post from any computer, not to mention search
    >>old threads. Sure I use my newsgroup client at home, but whats wrong
    >>with using GG from other computers?
    >>
    >>It just sounds like you are "old school", and insist that everyone use
    >>newsgroup clients ONLY. Please dont suggest I dig up my C64 from my
    >>closet and connect to a bbs system thru my 2400 baud modem... lol :p
    >>
    >>*******************************************
    >>Below is the first post in this thread.
    >>*********************************************
    >>From: SW Monkey - view profile
    >>Date: Wed, Mar 1 2006 1:13 pm
    >>Email: "SW Monkey" <>
    >>Groups: alt.fan.mozilla
    >>
    >>
    >>For some reason, Tbird is moving spam messages to the trash folder
    >>rather than the Spam folder. Spam filters are setup to do this, but
    >>its not working correctly.
    >>
    >>What file saves these settings? Maybe I an delete the file and
    >>reconfigure.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>From: Moz Champion (Dan) - view profile
    >>Date: Wed, Mar 1 2006 6:56 pm
    >>Email: "Moz Champion (Dan)" <>
    >>Groups: alt.fan.mozilla
    >>
    >>
    >>SW Monkey wrote:
    >>
    >>>For some reason, Tbird is moving spam messages to the trash folder
    >>>rather than the Spam folder. Spam filters are setup to do this, but
    >>>its not working correctly.

    >>
    >>>What file saves these settings? Maybe I an delete the file and
    >>>reconfigure.

    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>Recheck your Junk Mail Controls for each account
    >>ensure that the folder selected for the spams is properly identified
    >>for
    >>each account
    >>
    >>Temporarily disable the automatic trash option as well (in Junk Mail
    >>Controls)
    >>just to see if that is impacting the situation.
    >>

    >
    >
    > For one thing ...
    >
    > (having trouble figuring out what I'm replying to? Yeah, me too. Keep
    > reading.)
    >
    > ... the mish-mash of broken quoting (above) that is in your Google-based
    > post is something that a good news client doesn't do. And that's what
    > gwtc was referring to.
    >
    > Yes, Google is a nice tool for when you're on the road with no laptop or
    > your usual access. Yes, it's a handy archive search tool. But,
    > frankly, if you're replying to a message that has dropped off of most
    > decent news servers it's probably so old you shouldn't bother responding
    > to it. And you need to learn which button to use to Reply or Google
    > creates this mangled reply structure. It's a royal pain in the butt to
    > try to decipher compared to replies made via direct-access,
    > well-performing, news clients.
    >
    > And, by the way, most people in this group bottom-post, unlike what you
    > did. No one can force you to do anything but you'll get better
    > responses to your posts if you take some time and figure out what the
    > generally accepted practices are here and follow them. It's the old
    > "When in Rome ..." adage.
    >

    and to add what Ed said, learn how to post properly using
    GoogleGroups. If you hit the reply link, the the entire replied to
    message is whiped out. So, when you reply, nobody can figure out what
    you're saying and what is being replied to. Instead, click on the
    Show Options at the top, then click on the Reply link from there.
    This way, when you reply the entire previous message is kept intack.
    Now everyone knows whats going on.

    Further, not everyone is using googlegroups to view these messages.
    Some of us are using various usenet servers.
     
    gwtc, Mar 4, 2006
    #8
  9. SW Monkey wrote:
    > Tried that, didnt work.
    >
    > Any other ideas? Is there a file that saves these settings? Maybe I
    > can modify/delete it and start fresh.
    >
    >

    By snipping everything, you have removed the context.
    The problem may be familiar to you (it is your problem afterall) but I
    cant recall which of the dozens of problems I read each day in newsgroup
    it was. Evidently, something to do with JMC or Spam, but whatever it
    was I dont remember, and what I asked you to check or do neither can I
    recall.

    You may have the time to re-read each thread in each newsgroup you
    visit, I dont.
     
    Moz Champion (Dan), Mar 4, 2006
    #9
  10. SW Monkey

    gwtc Guest

    Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:

    > SW Monkey wrote:
    >
    >>Tried that, didnt work.
    >>
    >>Any other ideas? Is there a file that saves these settings? Maybe I
    >>can modify/delete it and start fresh.
    >>
    >>

    >
    > By snipping everything, you have removed the context.
    > The problem may be familiar to you (it is your problem afterall) but I
    > cant recall which of the dozens of problems I read each day in newsgroup
    > it was. Evidently, something to do with JMC or Spam, but whatever it
    > was I dont remember, and what I asked you to check or do neither can I
    > recall.
    >
    > You may have the time to re-read each thread in each newsgroup you
    > visit, I dont.

    its not really his fault. He's posting from googlegroups. He doesn't
    know that he shouldn't click on the Reply link. He doesn't know that
    he should click on the Show Options link at the top, then click on the
    Reply link from there. Most posters from google just doesn't know
    this. And, if you tell them, most simply ignore what you're trying to
    say.
     
    gwtc, Mar 4, 2006
    #10
  11. gwtc wrote:
    > Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    >
    >> SW Monkey wrote:
    >>
    >>> Tried that, didnt work.
    >>>
    >>> Any other ideas? Is there a file that saves these settings? Maybe I
    >>> can modify/delete it and start fresh.
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> By snipping everything, you have removed the context.
    >> The problem may be familiar to you (it is your problem afterall) but
    >> I cant recall which of the dozens of problems I read each day in
    >> newsgroup it was. Evidently, something to do with JMC or Spam, but
    >> whatever it was I dont remember, and what I asked you to check or do
    >> neither can I recall.
    >>
    >> You may have the time to re-read each thread in each newsgroup you
    >> visit, I dont.

    > its not really his fault. He's posting from googlegroups. He doesn't
    > know that he shouldn't click on the Reply link. He doesn't know that
    > he should click on the Show Options link at the top, then click on the
    > Reply link from there. Most posters from google just doesn't know
    > this. And, if you tell them, most simply ignore what you're trying to
    > say.

    Well, I still cant assist with his problem, mayhaps that will effect a
    change in behaviour.
     
    Moz Champion (Dan), Mar 5, 2006
    #11
  12. SW Monkey

    SW Monkey Guest

    Nope, I didnt know about that, thanks for the suggestion. I can
    understand why each post needs the history of the thread when using a
    standard newsgroup client, but if you are replying to a huge thread, do
    you really need all of the history in your post? It can be pretty
    long. Also, I like to top-post. Id rather read what the person said
    rather than scroll to the bottom. Thunderbird defaults to the bottom
    of the email when replying to an email, which I hate. I also hate when
    people forward me an email with every other persons email in it. Some
    standards are meant to be broken/changed as technology evolves. Back
    in the day, it wasnt good etiquette to send large files in an email.
    With todays speeds, that has changed. Just an example...


    gwtc wrote:
    > Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    >
    > > SW Monkey wrote:
    > >
    > >>Tried that, didnt work.
    > >>
    > >>Any other ideas? Is there a file that saves these settings? Maybe I
    > >>can modify/delete it and start fresh.
    > >>
    > >>

    > >
    > > By snipping everything, you have removed the context.
    > > The problem may be familiar to you (it is your problem afterall) but I
    > > cant recall which of the dozens of problems I read each day in newsgroup
    > > it was. Evidently, something to do with JMC or Spam, but whatever it
    > > was I dont remember, and what I asked you to check or do neither can I
    > > recall.
    > >
    > > You may have the time to re-read each thread in each newsgroup you
    > > visit, I dont.

    > its not really his fault. He's posting from googlegroups. He doesn't
    > know that he shouldn't click on the Reply link. He doesn't know that
    > he should click on the Show Options link at the top, then click on the
    > Reply link from there. Most posters from google just doesn't know
    > this. And, if you tell them, most simply ignore what you're trying to
    > say.
     
    SW Monkey, Mar 7, 2006
    #12
  13. SW Monkey

    gwtc Guest

    SW Monkey wrote:

    > Nope, I didnt know about that, thanks for the suggestion. I can
    > understand why each post needs the history of the thread when using a
    > standard newsgroup client, but if you are replying to a huge thread, do
    > you really need all of the history in your post? It can be pretty
    > long. Also, I like to top-post. Id rather read what the person said
    > rather than scroll to the bottom. Thunderbird defaults to the bottom
    > of the email when replying to an email, which I hate. I also hate when
    > people forward me an email with every other persons email in it. Some
    > standards are meant to be broken/changed as technology evolves. Back
    > in the day, it wasnt good etiquette to send large files in an email.
    > With todays speeds, that has changed. Just an example...
    >


    The preferences is to bottom post.

    As for default settings, then change it. You can have TB start at the
    top or at the bottom. Its done on a per account basis.


    >
    > gwtc wrote:
    >
    >>Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>SW Monkey wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>Tried that, didnt work.
    >>>>
    >>>>Any other ideas? Is there a file that saves these settings? Maybe I
    >>>>can modify/delete it and start fresh.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>By snipping everything, you have removed the context.
    >>>The problem may be familiar to you (it is your problem afterall) but I
    >>>cant recall which of the dozens of problems I read each day in newsgroup
    >>>it was. Evidently, something to do with JMC or Spam, but whatever it
    >>>was I dont remember, and what I asked you to check or do neither can I
    >>>recall.
    >>>
    >>>You may have the time to re-read each thread in each newsgroup you
    >>>visit, I dont.

    >>
    >>its not really his fault. He's posting from googlegroups. He doesn't
    >>know that he shouldn't click on the Reply link. He doesn't know that
    >>he should click on the Show Options link at the top, then click on the
    >>Reply link from there. Most posters from google just doesn't know
    >>this. And, if you tell them, most simply ignore what you're trying to
    >>say.

    >
    >
     
    gwtc, Mar 7, 2006
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