THUNDERBIRD LEAVES SPAM

Discussion in 'Firefox' started by Penny. M.Millarman, Jul 24, 2006.

  1. I am getting a bit sick of conscientiously marking all my mail as either
    junk or not junk, because however hard I try, I still get junk mail left
    in my inbox which is hardly likey to be legit....p....uleese why the
    hell would I want something called Veeagria!!


    I have been very patient but I do not want to have to go back again to
    retrain the junk filter.

    Does anyone else agree and should I use an extra mailwasher and if I do
    will it work with Thunderbird? Sometimes I think I should just get rid
    of Thunderbird and try something else.

    My AV, Kaspersky scans my email for nasties before it is delivered,BTW

    Please suggest some solutions.
    Penny. M.Millarman, Jul 24, 2006
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  2. Penny. M.Millarman

    Jim Scott Guest

    On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:41:01 +0100, Penny. M.Millarman wrote:

    > I am getting a bit sick of conscientiously marking all my mail as either
    > junk or not junk, because however hard I try, I still get junk mail left
    > in my inbox which is hardly likey to be legit....p....uleese why the
    > hell would I want something called Veeagria!!
    >
    > I have been very patient but I do not want to have to go back again to
    > retrain the junk filter.
    >
    > Does anyone else agree and should I use an extra mailwasher and if I do
    > will it work with Thunderbird? Sometimes I think I should just get rid
    > of Thunderbird and try something else.
    >
    > My AV, Kaspersky scans my email for nasties before it is delivered,BTW
    >
    > Please suggest some solutions.


    Don't fill in forms with your email address without reading the fine print.
    Then change your email address.
    --
    Jim S
    Tyneside UK
    http://www.jimscot.plus.com
    Jim Scott, Jul 24, 2006
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  3. Jim Scott wrote:
    > On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:41:01 +0100, Penny. M.Millarman wrote:
    >
    >> I am getting a bit sick of conscientiously marking all my mail as either
    >> junk or not junk, because however hard I try, I still get junk mail left
    >> in my inbox which is hardly likey to be legit....p....uleese why the
    >> hell would I want something called Veeagria!!
    >>
    >> I have been very patient but I do not want to have to go back again to
    >> retrain the junk filter.
    >>
    >> Does anyone else agree and should I use an extra mailwasher and if I do
    >> will it work with Thunderbird? Sometimes I think I should just get rid
    >> of Thunderbird and try something else.
    >>
    >> My AV, Kaspersky scans my email for nasties before it is delivered,BTW
    >>
    >> Please suggest some solutions.

    >
    > Don't fill in forms with your email address without reading the fine print.
    > Then change your email address.



    Marking email as 'not junk' will not improve your catch ration (number
    of spams caught)
    Marking emails as 'not junk' will improve the accuraccy of the product
    (reduce number of false positives)

    Since Jumk Mail Controls (JMC) doesnt catch too many false positives in
    the first place, non-junk training actually increases the complexity of
    the filtering

    Suggestion: dont mark messages as non-junk UNLESS of course JMC caught
    them and they arent junk

    JMC will get to over 90% catch ration within a few weeks - if ALL you do
    is mark those that are junk and corrrect JMC when its wrong.
    (My JMC on this machine got to 99% within 3 weeks in fact - been holding
    steady at 98 to 99% ever since)


    But this wont 'fix' your problem - you will see what seem to be the same
    spam (looks that way but they arent the same) because spammers are
    always looking for new ways to 'fool' the filters, even Baysien ones
    (such as JMC). The advantage is that JMC will learn all the tricks even
    as spammers invent new ons - it learns as it goes along.
    Mozilla Champion (Dan), Jul 24, 2006
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  4. Penny. M.Millarman

    gwtc Guest

    Penny. M.Millarman wrote:
    > I am getting a bit sick of conscientiously marking all my mail as either
    > junk or not junk, because however hard I try, I still get junk mail left
    > in my inbox which is hardly likey to be legit....p....uleese why the
    > hell would I want something called Veeagria!!
    >
    >
    > I have been very patient but I do not want to have to go back again to
    > retrain the junk filter.
    >
    > Does anyone else agree and should I use an extra mailwasher and if I do
    > will it work with Thunderbird? Sometimes I think I should just get rid
    > of Thunderbird and try something else.
    >
    > My AV, Kaspersky scans my email for nasties before it is delivered,BTW
    >
    > Please suggest some solutions.

    try using Message Filters [under Tools]

    --
    So, You Think You Know Everything?

    Did you know that Al Capone's business card said he was a used
    furniture dealer.
    gwtc, Jul 24, 2006
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  5. gwtc wrote:
    > Penny. M.Millarman wrote:
    >> I am getting a bit sick of conscientiously marking all my mail as
    >> either junk or not junk, because however hard I try, I still get junk
    >> mail left in my inbox which is hardly likey to be legit....p....uleese
    >> why the hell would I want something called Veeagria!!
    >>
    >>
    >> I have been very patient but I do not want to have to go back again to
    >> retrain the junk filter.
    >>
    >> Does anyone else agree and should I use an extra mailwasher and if I
    >> do will it work with Thunderbird? Sometimes I think I should just get
    >> rid of Thunderbird and try something else.
    >>
    >> My AV, Kaspersky scans my email for nasties before it is delivered,BTW
    >>
    >> Please suggest some solutions.

    > try using Message Filters [under Tools]
    >


    Doh! I feel such an idiot...I had totally ignored message filter..I have
    now put the examples into the filter.

    Thanks to everyone.
    Penny. M.Millarman, Jul 24, 2006
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