The Liberal Democrat's President Seizes Domains

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  1. http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-government-seizes-bittorrent-search-engine-domain-and-more-101126/

    http://xrl.in/6pz0

    Obama is way, way too much into emulating his heroes like Hugo Chavez
    and Fidel Castro.

    He has ordered his minions to simply "make go away" any website that
    they don't approve of.

    Which websites are next?

    I would say any Republican oriented site or right wing related site is
    in danger.

    I wonder if the British and the French and Germans will still give Obama
    100% approval ratings when this eventually affects them? If his
    approval levels start to drop in Europe, it will probably get his
    attention.


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    Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤, Nov 27, 2010
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    dadiOH Guest

    Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤ wrote:
    > http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-government-seizes-bittorrent-search-engine-domain-and-more-101126/
    >
    > http://xrl.in/6pz0
    >
    > Obama is way, way too much into emulating his heroes like Hugo Chavez
    > and Fidel Castro.
    >
    > He has ordered his minions to simply "make go away" any website that
    > they don't approve of.


    "His minions"? Nah, Reichfuhrer Bush's Department of Homeland Security.

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    richard Guest

    On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:43:09 -0600, Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤ wrote:

    > http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-government-seizes-bittorrent-search-engine-domain-and-more-101126/
    >
    > http://xrl.in/6pz0
    >
    > Obama is way, way too much into emulating his heroes like Hugo Chavez
    > and Fidel Castro.
    >
    > He has ordered his minions to simply "make go away" any website that
    > they don't approve of.
    >
    > Which websites are next?
    >
    > I would say any Republican oriented site or right wing related site is
    > in danger.
    >
    > I wonder if the British and the French and Germans will still give Obama
    > 100% approval ratings when this eventually affects them? If his
    > approval levels start to drop in Europe, it will probably get his
    > attention.
    >


    watchout ebay and youtube, you're next.
    and just maybe even amazon.com

    anybody who bucks Obama will get his domain seized too.

    like what ever happened to "due process"? Just like the entire
    constitution, flushed down the tubes by Obama.

    thank you america for voting that asshole into office.
     
    richard, Nov 28, 2010
    #3
  4. On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:17:57 -0800, Evan Platt
    <> wrote:

    >On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:59:27 -0700, richard <>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>watchout ebay and youtube, you're next.
    >>and just maybe even amazon.com
    >>
    >>anybody who bucks Obama will get his domain seized too.
    >>
    >>like what ever happened to "due process"? Just like the entire
    >>constitution, flushed down the tubes by Obama.

    >
    >
    >So let me get this straight - you seriously think (no... you don't
    >ever think) that the domains were shut down not because of their link
    >to illegal music / software, but because they didn't like Obama?


    Evan, are you really that naive. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
    This fucker, this Socialist Democrat, will shut down whatever site he
    wishes to shut down and there isn't a damn thing anyone can do about it.

    Don't like Rush Limbaugh, shut it down. If a leftist guerrilla like
    Olbermann slips up one day and doesn't suck Obama's dick just right like
    he has been doing and oops, you are shut down.

    They are just testing the waters to see how it works out. You are out
    of your mind if you think it will stop with "illegal" sites.

    >
    >>thank you america for voting that asshole into office.

    >
    >You don't like America?
    >
    >Leave.
    >
    >No, seriously.
    >
    >Leave. Go to a country that doesn't have internet. Please. I think
    >we'll all chip in for your one way airfare.


    You are simplistic and myopic and your view is not the view of
    Americans. Why don't you go live in a country where you are told what
    to listen to, what to view, what to watch, where you can go, who owns
    what industries, etc...

    I have a very hard time believing that any American can agree with the
    tactics being utilized by Obama's czars and enforcers.
     
    Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤, Nov 28, 2010
    #4
  5. On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:33:46 -0500, "dadiOH" <> wrote:

    >Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤ wrote:
    >> http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-government-seizes-bittorrent-search-engine-domain-and-more-101126/
    >>
    >> http://xrl.in/6pz0
    >>
    >> Obama is way, way too much into emulating his heroes like Hugo Chavez
    >> and Fidel Castro.
    >>
    >> He has ordered his minions to simply "make go away" any website that
    >> they don't approve of.

    >
    >"His minions"? Nah, Reichfuhrer Bush's Department of Homeland Security.


    Really? Just like everything else, it's all Bush's fault going on 3
    years into ObamaLand transgressions on cherished American liberties.

    Wrong.\

    It's now Obama's wars, Obama's Gitmo, Obama's seizure of private
    industries ( Hugo Chavez taught him that), Obama's economy, Obama's
    failure, etc...

    President Bush, still being all powerful, called up Homeland Security
    and ordered them to go **** all berserk on the Internet and clamp down.
    Wow. He's still got it doesn't he?
     
    Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤, Nov 28, 2010
    #5
  6. On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:33:46 -0500, "dadiOH" <> wrote:

    >Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤ wrote:
    >> http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-government-seizes-bittorrent-search-engine-domain-and-more-101126/
    >>
    >> http://xrl.in/6pz0
    >>
    >> Obama is way, way too much into emulating his heroes like Hugo Chavez
    >> and Fidel Castro.
    >>
    >> He has ordered his minions to simply "make go away" any website that
    >> they don't approve of.

    >
    >"His minions"? Nah, Reichfuhrer Bush's Department of Homeland Security.


    Really? Just like everything else, it's all Bush's fault going on 3
    years into ObamaLand transgressions on cherished American liberties.

    Wrong.\

    It's now Obama's wars, Obama's Gitmo, Obama's seizure of private
    industries ( Hugo Chavez taught him that), Obama's economy, Obama's
    failure, etc...

    President Bush, still being all powerful, called up Homeland Security
    and ordered them to go **** all berserk on the Internet and clamp down.
    Wow. He's still got it doesn't he?
     
    Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤, Nov 28, 2010
    #6
  7. On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:33:46 -0500, "dadiOH" <> wrote:

    >Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤ wrote:
    >> http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-government-seizes-bittorrent-search-engine-domain-and-more-101126/
    >>
    >> http://xrl.in/6pz0
    >>
    >> Obama is way, way too much into emulating his heroes like Hugo Chavez
    >> and Fidel Castro.
    >>
    >> He has ordered his minions to simply "make go away" any website that
    >> they don't approve of.

    >
    >"His minions"? Nah, Reichfuhrer Bush's Department of Homeland Security.


    Really? Just like everything else, it's all Bush's fault going on 3
    years into ObamaLand transgressions on cherished American liberties.

    Wrong.\

    It's now Obama's wars, Obama's Gitmo, Obama's seizure of private
    industries ( Hugo Chavez taught him that), Obama's economy, Obama's
    failure, etc...

    President Bush, still being all powerful, called up Homeland Security
    and ordered them to go **** all berserk on the Internet and clamp down.
    Wow. He's still got it doesn't he?
     
    Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤, Nov 28, 2010
    #7
  8. Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤

    richard Guest

    On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:43:30 -0600, Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤ wrote:

    > On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:17:57 -0800, Evan Platt
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >>On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:59:27 -0700, richard <>
    >>wrote:
    >>
    >>>watchout ebay and youtube, you're next.
    >>>and just maybe even amazon.com
    >>>
    >>>anybody who bucks Obama will get his domain seized too.
    >>>
    >>>like what ever happened to "due process"? Just like the entire
    >>>constitution, flushed down the tubes by Obama.

    >>
    >>
    >>So let me get this straight - you seriously think (no... you don't
    >>ever think) that the domains were shut down not because of their link
    >>to illegal music / software, but because they didn't like Obama?

    >
    > Evan, are you really that naive. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
    > This fucker, this Socialist Democrat, will shut down whatever site he
    > wishes to shut down and there isn't a damn thing anyone can do about it.
    >
    > Don't like Rush Limbaugh, shut it down. If a leftist guerrilla like
    > Olbermann slips up one day and doesn't suck Obama's dick just right like
    > he has been doing and oops, you are shut down.
    >
    > They are just testing the waters to see how it works out. You are out
    > of your mind if you think it will stop with "illegal" sites.
    >
    >>
    >>>thank you america for voting that asshole into office.

    >>
    >>You don't like America?
    >>
    >>Leave.
    >>
    >>No, seriously.
    >>
    >>Leave. Go to a country that doesn't have internet. Please. I think
    >>we'll all chip in for your one way airfare.

    >
    > You are simplistic and myopic and your view is not the view of
    > Americans. Why don't you go live in a country where you are told what
    > to listen to, what to view, what to watch, where you can go, who owns
    > what industries, etc...
    >
    > I have a very hard time believing that any American can agree with the
    > tactics being utilized by Obama's czars and enforcers.


    The only thing evan believes in is, evan platt is always right, everyone
    else is wrong.
     
    richard, Nov 28, 2010
    #8
  9. On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:21:34 -0700, richard <> wrote:

    >On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:43:30 -0600, Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤ wrote:
    >
    >> On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:17:57 -0800, Evan Platt
    >> <> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:59:27 -0700, richard <>
    >>>wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>watchout ebay and youtube, you're next.
    >>>>and just maybe even amazon.com
    >>>>
    >>>>anybody who bucks Obama will get his domain seized too.
    >>>>
    >>>>like what ever happened to "due process"? Just like the entire
    >>>>constitution, flushed down the tubes by Obama.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>So let me get this straight - you seriously think (no... you don't
    >>>ever think) that the domains were shut down not because of their link
    >>>to illegal music / software, but because they didn't like Obama?

    >>
    >> Evan, are you really that naive. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
    >> This fucker, this Socialist Democrat, will shut down whatever site he
    >> wishes to shut down and there isn't a damn thing anyone can do about it.
    >>
    >> Don't like Rush Limbaugh, shut it down. If a leftist guerrilla like
    >> Olbermann slips up one day and doesn't suck Obama's dick just right like
    >> he has been doing and oops, you are shut down.
    >>
    >> They are just testing the waters to see how it works out. You are out
    >> of your mind if you think it will stop with "illegal" sites.
    >>
    >>>
    >>>>thank you america for voting that asshole into office.
    >>>
    >>>You don't like America?
    >>>
    >>>Leave.
    >>>
    >>>No, seriously.
    >>>
    >>>Leave. Go to a country that doesn't have internet. Please. I think
    >>>we'll all chip in for your one way airfare.

    >>
    >> You are simplistic and myopic and your view is not the view of
    >> Americans. Why don't you go live in a country where you are told what
    >> to listen to, what to view, what to watch, where you can go, who owns
    >> what industries, etc...
    >>
    >> I have a very hard time believing that any American can agree with the
    >> tactics being utilized by Obama's czars and enforcers.

    >
    >The only thing evan believes in is, evan platt is always right, everyone
    >else is wrong.


    I know Richard. You have yourself a kook of epic proportions hot on
    your trail at every second.

    It is amazing and very sad how these liberals tell other Americans if we
    don't like every freedom we have ever known being taken away from us
    that we need to go live in another country.

    It's Twilight Zonish. Their love and devotion to their great leader
    overrides their common sense 100 out of 100 times.
     
    Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤, Nov 28, 2010
    #9
  10. Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤

    Fox News Guest

    In article <>,
    Evan Platt <> wrote:

    > On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:21:34 -0700, richard <>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >The only thing evan believes in is, evan platt is always right, everyone
    > >else is wrong.

    >
    > No, just you bullis. The evidence does point to you being wrong 100%
    > of the time.


    +1
     
    Fox News, Nov 28, 2010
    #10
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    G. Morgan Guest

    Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤ <Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤®@Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤®.net> wrote:

    >I wonder if the British and the French and Germans will still give Obama
    >100% approval ratings when this eventually affects them? If his
    >approval levels start to drop in Europe, it will probably get his
    >attention.


    http://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/11/25/police-get-major-new-powers-seize-domains/

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    vacations all rolled into one. - Old Gringo
     
    G. Morgan, Nov 28, 2010
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    Meat Plow Guest

    On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:43:09 -0600, Ctrl€/Alt€/Del€ wrote:

    > http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-government-seizes-bittorrent-search-engine-

    domain-and-more-101126/
    >
    > http://xrl.in/6pz0
    >
    > Obama is way, way too much into emulating his heroes like Hugo Chavez
    > and Fidel Castro.
    >
    > He has ordered his minions to simply "make go away" any website that
    > they don't approve of.
    >
    > Which websites are next?
    >
    > I would say any Republican oriented site or right wing related site is
    > in danger.
    >
    > I wonder if the British and the French and Germans will still give Obama
    > 100% approval ratings when this eventually affects them? If his
    > approval levels start to drop in Europe, it will probably get his
    > attention.


    NZB sites are also being fucked with although they hold nothing more than
    a database of Usenet headers. I suppose Usenet is next.



    --
    Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse
     
    Meat Plow, Nov 28, 2010
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    Whiskers Guest

    On 2010-11-27, Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤ <Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤®@Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤®.net> wrote:

    [...]

    > I wonder if the British and the French and Germans will still give Obama
    > 100% approval ratings when this eventually affects them? If his
    > approval levels start to drop in Europe, it will probably get his
    > attention.


    You've just noticed the drawback to having the fundamental controls of the
    internet in the hands of the US government. Just as they did at the
    beginning, they own the internet. This is not news to people outside the
    USA, and our governments have long wanted to change things to make the
    internet truly international rather than just something that it suits the
    US military-industrial complex to let us have access to.

    So far, the US government has been fairly benign in its control of the
    internet; if other governments move to take control of 'their bit' of the
    internet, they may be less relaxed - and the big danger is that there
    could cease to be one internet accessible from anywhere. So the question
    'who should run the internet?' has no simple or obvious answer. (I
    suspect that moving from IPv4 to IPv6 could change the whole thing - and
    that could be part of why the change didn't happen years ago).

    The other aspects of this seizure, that breach of copyright is apparently
    a criminal offence in the USA and that US legislation permits copyright on
    things for which it doesn't exist in other countries, are of more purely
    local interest. But as a US citizen and voter, you do have the power and
    the right to seek to change all that.

    --
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    -- Whiskers
    -- ~~~~~~~~~~
     
    Whiskers, Nov 28, 2010
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    Buffalo Guest

    richard wrote:
    > watchout ebay and youtube, you're next.
    > and just maybe even amazon.com
    >
    > anybody who bucks Obama will get his domain seized too.
    >
    > like what ever happened to "due process"? Just like the entire
    > constitution, flushed down the tubes by Obama.
    >
    > thank you america for voting that asshole into office.


    Wow, you CtrlxAltxDel and WeoScotty should room together.
    Buffalo
     
    Buffalo, Nov 28, 2010
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    totfit Guest

    Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤ wrote:



    > It is amazing and very sad how these liberals tell other Americans if we
    > don't like every freedom we have ever known being taken away from us
    > that we need to go live in another country.
    >
    > It's Twilight Zonish. Their love and devotion to their great leader
    > overrides their common sense 100 out of 100 times.


    You really have no concept of reality do you? Projection issues to the
    point of total lack of contact with any sort of sanity. Course you won't
    even understand the concept.
     
    totfit, Nov 28, 2010
    #15
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    joevan Guest

    On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 15:07:04 -0700, "Buffalo" <>
    wrote:

    >hank you america for voting that asshole into office.
    >
    >Wow, you CtrlxAltxDel and WeoScotty should room together.
    >Buffalo

    They are already in bed together. Comfy and cozy, together, as it
    goes.
     
    joevan, Nov 28, 2010
    #16
  17. On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 17:27:07 -0500, joevan <>
    wrote:

    >On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 15:07:04 -0700, "Buffalo" <>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>hank you america for voting that asshole into office.
    >>
    >>Wow, you CtrlxAltxDel and WeoScotty should room together.
    >>Buffalo

    >They are already in bed together. Comfy and cozy, together, as it
    >goes.


    Dreaming about your stepdaughter again, Joevan? You remember what you
    used to say don't you?

    BTW, quit doing searches on YouTube for terms like "Growing Up" and then
    posting links in this group to little boys signing and shit, fucking
    weirdo.
     
    Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤, Nov 29, 2010
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    Whiskers Guest

    On 2010-11-28, §nühw¤£f <> wrote:
    > Whiskers wrote:
    >>
    >> You've just noticed the drawback to having the fundamental controls of
    >> the
    >> internet in the hands of the US government.

    >
    > Its also controlled in part by these folks:http://nomcom.icann.org/


    "Controlled" is a bit of a stretch; non-commercial interests from several
    countries are allowed to express opinions. Although the US govt. grasp on
    ICAN and IANA is slightly looser than it once was, ICAN still exists as a
    US (California) non-profit organisation under contract to the US
    Department of Commerce
    <http://www.icann.org/en/news/releases/release-30sep09-en.pdf>.

    >> So far, the US government has been fairly benign in its control of the
    >> internet; if other governments move to take control of 'their bit' of
    >> the
    >> internet,

    >
    > Great Firewall of China ring any bells, mate?
    > Lots of countries restrict their traffic with hevy doody filtering
    > software.
    > Iran does it, prolly a bunch more as well.


    Trying to impose 'filters' or 'censorship' is a long way from issuing IP
    numbers or domain names without reference to ICAN or IANA - let alone
    setting up an entirely different system from the present universal
    'Internet Protocols'.

    >>they may be less relaxed - and the big danger is that there
    >> could cease to be one internet accessible from anywhere.

    >
    > Theres technology to create a separate internet. And it might make more
    > sense to re-work the whole thing due to the need as you state to move
    > from IPv4 to "6".
    >
    >> So the
    >> question
    >> 'who should run the internet?' has no simple or obvious answer.

    >
    > AFAIAC, *nobody* should run it. Its a co-operative system and a model
    > for "getting along despite our ideological differences".


    Anarchy requires more co-operation than politicians, governments, or
    commercial interests, have ever shown themselves capable of.

    >> (I
    >> suspect that moving from IPv4 to IPv6 could change the whole thing -
    >> and
    >> that could be part of why the change didn't happen years ago).
    >>

    >
    > Theres even better methods than "6"...
    > http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/netsys/article.php/3911731/Juniper-Expa
    > nds-IPv6-Migration-Options.htm
    >
    > "DS-Lite" is the new big thing. If I had any smarts I'd invest heavily
    > in Juniper before they get too big :)


    That's just one company's offering to assist their customers to handle the
    move from IPv4 to IPv6.

    >> The other aspects of this seizure, that breach of copyright is
    >> apparently
    >> a criminal offence in the USA and that US legislation permits
    >> copyright on
    >> things for which it doesn't exist in other countries, are of more
    >> purely
    >> local interest. But as a US citizen and voter, you do have the power
    >> and
    >> the right to seek to change all that.
    >>

    > Only in *theory* do we have the "power".
    >
    > LOL!


    Rights and powers have to be exercised.

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    -- Whiskers
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    Whiskers, Nov 29, 2010
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    G. Morgan Guest

    §nühw¤£f <> wrote:

    >Watch g00gle pull something outta their hat and suprise us all.


    Did anyone read the comments at the end of the article?

    I got 2 things out of them.

    1. Europeans really DO hate the US. And see us as an "empire". I live here,
    and I have no desire for the US to be an "Empire". This means "we the people"
    must do something to change our reputation.

    2. There are alternate methods such as private DNS servers, and a HOSTS file
    that will get you to your IP no matter what ICANN does. At least 3 other means
    of "bypassing" government controls that are up and working NOW, were discussed
    at length.

    3. Do you think the "Great Firewall of China" really works? Maybe for the
    average user, but those "in the know" can punch through a firewall will ease,
    especially from the inside.




    --
    You'll be Ok, Enjoy. Life is nothing more than a bunch of mini
    vacations all rolled into one. - Old Gringo
     
    G. Morgan, Nov 30, 2010
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    G. Morgan Guest

    §ñühw¤£f <> wrote:

    >article on slashdot about china poisoning the DNS servers several times
    >over the past few years...worth a read.


    This one?
    http://it.slashdot.org/story/08/08/21/2343250/DNS-Poisoning-Hits-One-of-Chinas-Biggest-ISPs

    No big surprise there. It may not have been intentional. Not too long ago
    Network Solutions accidentally poisoned thousands of "parking pages" with a
    virus/trojan (forgot which).

    The good thing is there are plenty of free, good DNS servers to choose from. I
    keep a text file locally that I can use in case of a massive disaster.

    The one thing that I have not done, which I should, is to do a NSLOOKUP on all
    the sites in my bookmarks in case the DNS system goes completely awry. Then add
    the list to my HOSTS file and I can access all of them without the use of a DNS
    server. The only caveat I see is the sites that are run sharing an IP. There
    must be a command-line option to impart that data in the URL. According to
    Wikipedia this may be a non-issue using this format:
    http://127.0.0.1/~virtualhostname

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shared_web_hosting_service



    --
    You'll be Ok, Enjoy. Life is nothing more than a bunch of mini
    vacations all rolled into one. - Old Gringo
     
    G. Morgan, Nov 30, 2010
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