The end is near for 35mm? Or is it? When is the end?

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by j, Sep 30, 2006.

  1. j

    j Guest

    I am thinking of just a couple of the many signs from manufactures that the
    end is near for 35mm film.

    Rollei who packages their 35mm in a coffin. or rather a wooden box, which
    strikes me as just stupid.

    Leica who dropped their film oriented classes.

    Do you all see other conspicuous signs?
    j, Sep 30, 2006
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  2. j

    g n p Guest

    "j" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > I am thinking of just a couple of the many signs from manufactures that
    > the end is near for 35mm film.
    >
    > Rollei who packages their 35mm in a coffin. or rather a wooden box, which
    > strikes me as just stupid.
    >
    > Leica who dropped their film oriented classes.
    >
    > Do you all see other conspicuous signs?



    Do you all see anyone giving a sh*t??
    g n p, Sep 30, 2006
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  3. j

    j Guest

    g n p wrote:
    > Do you all see anyone giving a sh*t??


    You cared enough to type that.
    j, Sep 30, 2006
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  4. j

    Phil Guest

    g n p wrote:
    > "j" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > >
    > > I am thinking of just a couple of the many signs from manufactures that
    > > the end is near for 35mm film.
    > >
    > > Rollei who packages their 35mm in a coffin. or rather a wooden box, which
    > > strikes me as just stupid.
    > >
    > > Leica who dropped their film oriented classes.
    > >
    > > Do you all see other conspicuous signs?

    >
    >
    > Do you all see anyone giving a sh*t??


    Wow! Seems that civility is also going by the wayside
    Phil, Sep 30, 2006
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  5. j

    g n p Guest

    "j" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > g n p wrote:
    >> Do you all see anyone giving a sh*t??

    >
    > You cared enough to type that.


    Sure, sure, just like my pains over horse-drawn-carriages, mono, vinyl, tape
    decks, copper wire, etc...etc...
    My kids saw a record player in a movie (DVD via LCD...) and could not
    comprehend my explanation.
    Get real, folks.
    g n p, Sep 30, 2006
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  6. j

    Roy G Guest

    "g n p" <> wrote in message
    news:1159657189.294553@athprx03...
    >
    > "j" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >>
    >> g n p wrote:
    >>> Do you all see anyone giving a sh*t??

    >>
    >> You cared enough to type that.

    >
    > Sure, sure, just like my pains over horse-drawn-carriages, mono, vinyl,
    > tape decks, copper wire, etc...etc...
    > My kids saw a record player in a movie (DVD via LCD...) and could not
    > comprehend my explanation.
    > Get real, folks.



    Hey.

    I have still got a Turntable as part of my Hi-Fi system, and still play
    Vinyl LPs on it, and strange as it may seem, I am far from being old
    fashioned.

    Have you not heard that Vinyl is coming back, so 35mm Film will probably
    never go away.

    Roy G
    Roy G, Oct 1, 2006
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  7. j

    Stewy Guest

    In article <>, "j" <>
    wrote:

    > I am thinking of just a couple of the many signs from manufactures that the
    > end is near for 35mm film.
    >
    > Rollei who packages their 35mm in a coffin. or rather a wooden box, which
    > strikes me as just stupid.
    >
    > Leica who dropped their film oriented classes.
    >
    > Do you all see other conspicuous signs?


    Personally, I think the rot set in when Kodak stopped selling glass
    plates and moved over to that new-fangled gelatine.
    Stewy, Oct 1, 2006
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  8. j

    Stewy Guest

    In article <1159657189.294553@athprx03>,
    "g n p" <> wrote:

    > "j" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > >
    > > g n p wrote:
    > >> Do you all see anyone giving a sh*t??

    > >
    > > You cared enough to type that.

    >
    > Sure, sure, just like my pains over horse-drawn-carriages, mono, vinyl, tape
    > decks, copper wire, etc...etc...
    > My kids saw a record player in a movie (DVD via LCD...) and could not
    > comprehend my explanation.
    > Get real, folks.


    True enough. Some of my students (18 & 19 year old college kids) were
    amazed an LP only lasted 20 minutes and you had to turn-it-over!

    Over the years I've moved from reel to reel to cassettes, then to
    minidisc and now an iPod. And an instamatic, via 110 to a Canon AE1 and
    now to a Fuji digital.

    You can still get open reel tapes, betamax video (all the pros use them)
    and film will be available for many years to come.
    Stewy, Oct 1, 2006
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  9. j

    Guest

    it started two or three years ago when a diehard 35mm salesman at b&h
    said he saw the signs when pros were turning in their hasselblads for
    nikon/canon dslr's.



    j wrote:
    > I am thinking of just a couple of the many signs from manufactures that the
    > end is near for 35mm film.
    >
    > Rollei who packages their 35mm in a coffin. or rather a wooden box, which
    > strikes me as just stupid.
    >
    > Leica who dropped their film oriented classes.
    >
    > Do you all see other conspicuous signs?
    , Oct 1, 2006
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  10. j

    Ron Hunter Guest

    j wrote:
    > I am thinking of just a couple of the many signs from manufactures that the
    > end is near for 35mm film.
    >
    > Rollei who packages their 35mm in a coffin. or rather a wooden box, which
    > strikes me as just stupid.
    >
    > Leica who dropped their film oriented classes.
    >
    > Do you all see other conspicuous signs?
    >
    >
    >

    I am sure one will be able to go into just about camera store and buy a
    35mm film camera for as long as I live (pushing 64), and probably
    decades after that.
    That said, digital is the current thing. I doubt it will crash like
    digital watches did.
    Ron Hunter, Oct 1, 2006
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  11. j

    EF in FLA Guest

    > I am sure one will be able to go into just about camera store and buy a
    > 35mm film camera for as long as I live (pushing 64), and probably decades
    > after that.


    Most pawn shops have more 35mm's than they can ever sell. Pretty soon
    they'll just go straight to trash dumps because NO ONE will want them. Hey,
    life goes on.

    ef
    EF in FLA, Oct 1, 2006
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  12. "Roy G" <> wrote in message
    news:fUCTg.37266$...
    >
    > Hey.
    >
    > I have still got a Turntable as part of my Hi-Fi system, and still play
    > Vinyl LPs on it, and strange as it may seem, I am far from being old
    > fashioned.
    >
    > Have you not heard that Vinyl is coming back, so 35mm Film will probably
    > never go away.
    >
    > Roy G
    >


    And valve amplifiers are also making a comeback!
    Have never really been completely gone. Aficionados have always said they
    are better.

    Gerrit
    Gerrit 't Hart, Oct 1, 2006
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  13. j

    joe mama Guest

    "EF in FLA" <> wrote in message
    news:ehFTg.23546$...
    >> I am sure one will be able to go into just about camera store and buy a
    >> 35mm film camera for as long as I live (pushing 64), and probably decades
    >> after that.

    >
    > Most pawn shops have more 35mm's than they can ever sell. Pretty soon
    > they'll just go straight to trash dumps because NO ONE will want them.
    > Hey, life goes on.



    i have a 33 yo FE2 and some same-aged nikkor lenses, as well as a d100 and
    some newer digital lenses. i wonder which ones will last longer?

    digital is a fad. laugh all you want. when the Photoshop craze has been run
    into the ground, people are going to get bored and remember that you need to
    actually "know" how to get an image in silver. plus, nobody is going to want
    to replace gear every five years (or less). unless it gets so cheap that it
    is no longer viable to manufacture.

    we'll see. i don't think film is going anywhere all that soon. especially
    35mm. seen any all-digital movies lately???
    joe mama, Oct 1, 2006
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  14. j

    Prometheus Guest

    In article <>, Stewy
    <> writes
    >You can still get open reel tapes, betamax video (all the pros use
    >them)


    True, but not the domestic Betamax form.

    >and film will be available for many years to come.


    They all will be available for many years, but the choice will be
    reduced and availability will be restricted to specialist suppliers/
    --
    Ian G8ILZ
    Prometheus, Oct 1, 2006
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  15. j

    Ron Hunter Guest

    joe mama wrote:
    > "EF in FLA" <> wrote in message
    > news:ehFTg.23546$...
    >>> I am sure one will be able to go into just about camera store and buy a
    >>> 35mm film camera for as long as I live (pushing 64), and probably decades
    >>> after that.

    >> Most pawn shops have more 35mm's than they can ever sell. Pretty soon
    >> they'll just go straight to trash dumps because NO ONE will want them.
    >> Hey, life goes on.

    >
    >
    > i have a 33 yo FE2 and some same-aged nikkor lenses, as well as a d100 and
    > some newer digital lenses. i wonder which ones will last longer?
    >
    > digital is a fad. laugh all you want. when the Photoshop craze has been run
    > into the ground, people are going to get bored and remember that you need to
    > actually "know" how to get an image in silver. plus, nobody is going to want
    > to replace gear every five years (or less). unless it gets so cheap that it
    > is no longer viable to manufacture.
    >
    > we'll see. i don't think film is going anywhere all that soon. especially
    > 35mm. seen any all-digital movies lately???
    >
    >

    Actually, there are all digital movies. I believe there is one in
    Dallas, and you should see a lot more of them when the cost or
    projectors gets down near what it is for the film versions. The
    distribution costs for digital as opposed to film are VERY attractive
    for the producers. Lead, follow, or get out of the way!
    Ron Hunter, Oct 1, 2006
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  16. j

    Prometheus Guest

    In article <>, joe mama
    <> writes
    >
    >"EF in FLA" <> wrote in message
    >news:ehFTg.23546$...
    >>> I am sure one will be able to go into just about camera store and buy a
    >>> 35mm film camera for as long as I live (pushing 64), and probably decades
    >>> after that.

    >>
    >> Most pawn shops have more 35mm's than they can ever sell. Pretty soon
    >> they'll just go straight to trash dumps because NO ONE will want them.
    >> Hey, life goes on.

    >
    >
    >i have a 33 yo FE2 and some same-aged nikkor lenses, as well as a d100 and
    >some newer digital lenses. i wonder which ones will last longer?


    Assuming identical mechanical construction quality, which ever is used
    least.

    >digital is a fad. laugh all you want. when the Photoshop craze has been run
    >into the ground, people are going to get bored and remember that you need to
    >actually "know" how to get an image in silver.


    NO! You need to get an image projected on to a screen or printed on to
    paper or some other material, silver is only one of the means of
    reaching that objective.

    >plus, nobody is going to want
    >to replace gear every five years (or less).


    Why should you, if a digital camera can produce acceptable prints of the
    size you require it will still be able to produce that size in five
    years. If your requirements change then that is no different to moving
    from 110 to 135 to 220, as an example.

    >unless it gets so cheap that it
    >is no longer viable to manufacture.


    This just does not make sense.

    >we'll see. i don't think film is going anywhere all that soon. especially
    >35mm. seen any all-digital movies lately???


    Yes.

    --
    Ian G8ILZ
    Prometheus, Oct 1, 2006
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  17. j

    Guest

    On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 13:03:11 +0800, "Gerrit 't Hart" <>
    wrote:

    >And valve amplifiers are also making a comeback!
    >Have never really been completely gone. Aficionados have always said they
    >are better.


    And CRT TV is much better than LCD. SED TV has the best of both
    worlds. I wonder if we will ever see digital cameras with SED
    displays.

    --
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    EasyNN-plus. The easy way to build neural networks.
    http://www.easynn.com
    , Oct 1, 2006
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  18. j

    EF in FLA Guest

    >> digital is a fad. laugh all you want.

    OK. Bwahahahah!!!

    >> when the Photoshop craze has been run into the ground


    Photoshop craze? That's like saying microwave oven craze, computer craze,
    dvd payer craze, etc.

    ef
    EF in FLA, Oct 1, 2006
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  19. j

    Guest

    On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 10:27:19 +0100, wrote:

    >On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 13:03:11 +0800, "Gerrit 't Hart" <>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>And valve amplifiers are also making a comeback!
    >>Have never really been completely gone. Aficionados have always said they
    >>are better.

    >
    >And CRT TV is much better than LCD. SED TV has the best of both
    >worlds. I wonder if we will ever see digital cameras with SED
    >displays.




    And likewise, go to a photo processor in the high street to get black
    and white film developed and you will be told 'no one does that
    anymore'!!

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  20. joe mama wrote:
    > "EF in FLA" <> wrote in message
    > news:ehFTg.23546$...
    >>> I am sure one will be able to go into just about camera store and
    >>> buy a 35mm film camera for as long as I live (pushing 64), and
    >>> probably decades after that.

    >>
    >> Most pawn shops have more 35mm's than they can ever sell. Pretty
    >> soon they'll just go straight to trash dumps because NO ONE will
    >> want them. Hey, life goes on.

    >
    >
    > i have a 33 yo FE2 and some same-aged nikkor lenses, as well as a
    > d100 and some newer digital lenses. i wonder which ones will last
    > longer?
    >
    > digital is a fad. laugh all you want. when the Photoshop craze has
    > been run into the ground, people are going to get bored and remember
    > that you need to actually "know" how to get an image in silver. plus,
    > nobody is going to want to replace gear every five years (or less).
    > unless it gets so cheap that it is no longer viable to manufacture.
    >
    > we'll see. i don't think film is going anywhere all that soon.
    > especially 35mm. seen any all-digital movies lately???


    My grand-daughter has just started her 4th year of a 4-year degree course in
    photography at Glasgow College of Art.

    So far, digital photography has never been mentioned at all, and I doubt
    whether it will be. She visits my house occasionally and is simply amazed at
    all my digital stuff.

    So who's right and who's wrong? Are the Universities so out of touch that
    they have not yet heard of the so-called digital revolution? Or do they know
    something we don't?

    Second-hand values of the better film cameras and lenses are holding up
    well, and if it's a Leica you want, forget it unless you take out a
    mortgage! Nikon lenses are selling at ridiculous prices only because Nikon
    decided that all their lenses would be usable, with varying degrees of
    automation and sophistication, on their digital SLRs.

    I don't think the digital cameras will have one quarter of the staying power
    of the old classics like the Leica M series or the Nikon F3. In ten years
    time our plastic fantastics will be in use as doorstops.

    Sell my F3 and Leica 3g? You nust be joking! (I'm on my 7th digital camera
    in 4 years!).

    Dennis.
    Dennis Pogson, Oct 1, 2006
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