Thank you to Microsoft

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Waylon Kenning, Jul 6, 2005.

  1. Hi all,

    Microsoft run a website for students who are into IT, called
    www.thespoke.net. Recently, thespoke and Microsoft ran a competition
    called the Imagine Cup. I entered the information technology section,
    and did pretty well, coming in the top 300 out of 10000. As a prize,
    Microsoft sent me Windows Small Business Server 2003 Premium Edition,
    worth about $3000NZ here. So I'd just like to say a big public thank
    you to Microsoft for the prize, it's very much so appreciated and I'll
    definitely be entering again next year, which is something I highly
    recommend for all you students studying IT.

    Regards,
    Waylon Kenning.
     
    Waylon Kenning, Jul 6, 2005
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  2. Waylon Kenning

    Kent Smith Guest

    Waylon Kenning wrote:
    > Hi all,
    >

    As a prize,
    > Microsoft sent me Windows Small Business Server 2003 Premium Edition,
    > worth about $3000NZ here.


    Ahh, but now you'll have to pay $1500 to upgrade it to Windows Small
    Business Server 2004 when it comes out in 2006 which fixes *all* of the bugs
    and security flaws found in the 2003 edition. :)

    Did you click <I Agree> on the EULA which asks for your first-born son to be
    given to Bill Gates? :)


    -KENT
     
    Kent Smith, Jul 6, 2005
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  3. No no, I've already given away my first born son to eBay as a
    promotional stunt, you know how things are these days:)

    Actually, I'm really looking forward to getting stuck into ISA and SQL
    server, and Exchange server and finding out how it all works together,
    it'll help me out a lot towards studying an MCSE:)

    I still think it's a good idea for companies to be involved with
    students studying at polytechs and universities, because being a
    student isn't easy, so if a company can make it easier for a student to
    study, then those students are likely to be grateful to that company
    later on in life, when they're purchasing software, or recommending
    software to be purchased etc...

    --
    Regards

    Waylon Kenning.
     
    Waylon Kenning, Jul 6, 2005
    #3
  4. Hi there,

    Kent Smith wrote:
    > Waylon Kenning wrote:
    >
    >>Hi all,
    >>

    >
    > As a prize,
    >
    >>Microsoft sent me Windows Small Business Server 2003 Premium Edition,
    >>worth about $3000NZ here.

    > Ahh, but now you'll have to pay $1500 to upgrade it to Windows Small
    > Business Server 2004 when it comes out in 2006 which fixes *all* of the bugs
    > and security flaws found in the 2003 edition. :)


    $1500? Nah, thats likely to climb since MS cannot now create the
    revenue stream from European software patenting that they were
    planning to. :)

    --
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    Anyone wishing to email me directly can remove the obvious
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    Software patents are killing YOUR freedom, STOP THEM NOW!
    http://swpat.ffii.org/ http://nosoftwarepatents.com/
     
    Chris Wilkinson, Jul 6, 2005
    #4
  5. "Waylon Kenning" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hi all,
    >
    > Microsoft run a website for students who are into IT, called
    > www.thespoke.net. Recently, thespoke and Microsoft ran a competition
    > called the Imagine Cup. I entered the information technology section,
    > and did pretty well, coming in the top 300 out of 10000. As a prize,
    > Microsoft sent me Windows Small Business Server 2003 Premium Edition,
    > worth about $3000NZ here. So I'd just like to say a big public thank
    > you to Microsoft for the prize, it's very much so appreciated and I'll
    > definitely be entering again next year, which is something I highly
    > recommend for all you students studying IT.
    >
    > Regards,
    > Waylon Kenning.
    >


    Hi Waylon,
    Thanks for the good news and feedback and congratulations on a spectacular
    success

    Brett Roberts
    Microsoft NZ
     
    Brett Roberts, Jul 7, 2005
    #5
  6. Waylon Kenning

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Waylon Kenning wrote:
    > No no, I've already given away my first born son to eBay as a
    > promotional stunt, you know how things are these days:)
    >
    > Actually, I'm really looking forward to getting stuck into ISA and SQL
    > server, and Exchange server and finding out how it all works together,
    > it'll help me out a lot towards studying an MCSE:)
    >
    > I still think it's a good idea for companies to be involved with
    > students studying at polytechs and universities, because being a
    > student isn't easy, so if a company can make it easier for a student
    > to study, then those students are likely to be grateful to that
    > company later on in life, when they're purchasing software, or
    > recommending software to be purchased etc...


    It's not a philanthropic arangement, it's called marketing and helps
    maintain monopolistic practices.

    :)

    Congrats on doing so well but. And scoring the free software.

    I understand that you're chuffed but you realise that you've posted thanking
    them for getting a very cheap interest in your future? Not only have they
    got you working with their software and thinking of recommending it but they
    have you thanking them publicly. What a success for Microsoft!
    --
    ~misfit~ <Cynical as always>
     
    ~misfit~, Jul 7, 2005
    #6
  7. Waylon Kenning

    Krazy Bob Guest

    "~misfit~" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Waylon Kenning wrote:
    >> No no, I've already given away my first born son to eBay as a
    >> promotional stunt, you know how things are these days:)
    >>
    >> Actually, I'm really looking forward to getting stuck into ISA and SQL
    >> server, and Exchange server and finding out how it all works together,
    >> it'll help me out a lot towards studying an MCSE:)
    >>
    >> I still think it's a good idea for companies to be involved with
    >> students studying at polytechs and universities, because being a
    >> student isn't easy, so if a company can make it easier for a student
    >> to study, then those students are likely to be grateful to that
    >> company later on in life, when they're purchasing software, or
    >> recommending software to be purchased etc...

    >
    > It's not a philanthropic arangement, it's called marketing and helps
    > maintain monopolistic practices.
    >
    > :)
    >
    > Congrats on doing so well but. And scoring the free software.
    >
    > I understand that you're chuffed but you realise that you've posted
    > thanking
    > them for getting a very cheap interest in your future? Not only have they
    > got you working with their software and thinking of recommending it but
    > they
    > have you thanking them publicly. What a success for Microsoft!
    > --
    > ~misfit~ <Cynical as always>
    >

    hey its free publicity, while spend trillions of dollars advertising when
    you can get guys like these to do it for you ;-)
     
    Krazy Bob, Jul 7, 2005
    #7
  8. Waylon Kenning

    steven Guest

    On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:53:22 +1200, Krazy Bob wrote:

    > "~misfit~" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Waylon Kenning wrote:
    >>> No no, I've already given away my first born son to eBay as a
    >>> promotional stunt, you know how things are these days:)
    >>>
    >>> Actually, I'm really looking forward to getting stuck into ISA and SQL
    >>> server, and Exchange server and finding out how it all works together,
    >>> it'll help me out a lot towards studying an MCSE:)
    >>>
    >>> I still think it's a good idea for companies to be involved with
    >>> students studying at polytechs and universities, because being a
    >>> student isn't easy, so if a company can make it easier for a student
    >>> to study, then those students are likely to be grateful to that
    >>> company later on in life, when they're purchasing software, or
    >>> recommending software to be purchased etc...

    >>
    >> It's not a philanthropic arangement, it's called marketing and helps
    >> maintain monopolistic practices.
    >>
    >> :)
    >>
    >> Congrats on doing so well but. And scoring the free software.
    >>
    >> I understand that you're chuffed but you realise that you've posted
    >> thanking
    >> them for getting a very cheap interest in your future? Not only have they
    >> got you working with their software and thinking of recommending it but
    >> they
    >> have you thanking them publicly. What a success for Microsoft!
    >> --
    >> ~misfit~ <Cynical as always>
    >>

    > hey its free publicity, while spend trillions of dollars advertising when
    > you can get guys like these to do it for you ;-)


    personally i look at another way

    microsoft have spent massive amounts of money in marketing certian words,
    smart/thick/thin-client, web-services, push technology, .net, dynamic
    content, systems architect, active x ... ... the list goes on

    point being i habitually abuse microsofts marketing budget for my own
    personal gain - so do most developers i know.

    its just a part of the software development world - there hardly never is a
    'unique idea' we all borrow ideas left right and center to build something
    'the right way'.

    --
    -------------------------------------
    Steven H (.net geek)
    Third Year, B.I.T. Otago Polytechnic
     
    steven, Jul 7, 2005
    #8
  9. I'm fully aware of the symbotic nature of the relationship, and
    Microsoft spending not much in terms of their total budgets to get a
    vested interest in my future, but as a student, this is the first sign
    I've seen from any corperation who's willing to give a damn about me,
    and reward me for a job well done so it seems.

    I'm not stupid, I'm just poor. If corperations are willing to sponsor
    students, it's a relationship where everyone wins. The student gets
    much needed resources to study, the corperation gets good publicity,
    and perhaps a student champion who one day might be the person doing
    the purchasing for some company one day.

    On another note, a friend of mine working at Raglan Area School
    informed me that a student there got the top score in the Microsoft
    Office Specialist Exams, and has won a trip to Florida representing New
    Zealand in the world Microsoft Office Specialist Championships. So
    congrats to that person, and once again thanks to Microsoft for making
    things like this happen.
     
    Waylon Kenning, Jul 7, 2005
    #9
  10. Waylon Kenning

    Kookaburra Guest

    On 6 Jul 2005 13:28:18 -0700, "Waylon Kenning" <>
    wrote:

    >Hi all,
    >
    >Microsoft run a website for students who are into IT, called
    >www.thespoke.net. Recently, thespoke and Microsoft ran a competition
    >called the Imagine Cup. I entered the information technology section,
    >and did pretty well, coming in the top 300 out of 10000. As a prize,
    >Microsoft sent me Windows Small Business Server 2003 Premium Edition,
    >worth about $3000NZ here. So I'd just like to say a big public thank
    >you to Microsoft for the prize, it's very much so appreciated and I'll
    >definitely be entering again next year, which is something I highly
    >recommend for all you students studying IT.
    >
    >Regards,
    >Waylon Kenning.


    Congratulations Waylon :eek:))

    Cheers, Kooky
     
    Kookaburra, Jul 7, 2005
    #10
  11. Thanks Bret, much appreciated:)
    --
    Regards
    Waylon.
     
    Waylon Kenning, Jul 7, 2005
    #11
  12. Thanks Kooky:) I have this funny feeling that Active Directory and ISA
    server is a little overboard for two users on one computer, sharing a
    dial up modem, but whatever works:)
    --
    Regards
    Waylon.
     
    Waylon Kenning, Jul 7, 2005
    #12
  13. Waylon Kenning

    Bret Guest

    On 6 Jul 2005 13:28:18 -0700, "Waylon Kenning" <>
    wrote:

    >Hi all,
    >
    >Microsoft run a website for students who are into IT, called
    >www.thespoke.net. Recently, thespoke and Microsoft ran a competition
    >called the Imagine Cup. I entered the information technology section,
    >and did pretty well, coming in the top 300 out of 10000. As a prize,
    >Microsoft sent me Windows Small Business Server 2003 Premium Edition,
    >worth about $3000NZ here. So I'd just like to say a big public thank
    >you to Microsoft for the prize, it's very much so appreciated and I'll
    >definitely be entering again next year, which is something I highly
    >recommend for all you students studying IT.
    >
    >Regards,
    >Waylon Kenning.


    Well done Waylon, competition is a good thing, the prize is a nice
    bonus.
     
    Bret, Jul 7, 2005
    #13
  14. Waylon Kenning

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Waylon Kenning wrote:
    > I'm fully aware of the symbotic nature of the relationship, and
    > Microsoft spending not much in terms of their total budgets to get a
    > vested interest in my future, but as a student, this is the first sign
    > I've seen from any corperation who's willing to give a damn about me,
    > and reward me for a job well done so it seems.


    Understood.

    > I'm not stupid, I'm just poor. If corperations are willing to sponsor
    > students, it's a relationship where everyone wins. The student gets
    > much needed resources to study, the corperation gets good publicity,
    > and perhaps a student champion who one day might be the person doing
    > the purchasing for some company one day.


    I hope you didn't read my post as inplying that you *are* stupid, I
    certainly don't think that. It's just that the whole thing seems to me like
    'backhanders', only legal. It just feels wrong to me. It's a personal thing,
    no slur on you intended. I guess I just don't agree with a lot of modern
    business practices.

    > On another note, a friend of mine working at Raglan Area School
    > informed me that a student there got the top score in the Microsoft
    > Office Specialist Exams, and has won a trip to Florida representing
    > New Zealand in the world Microsoft Office Specialist Championships. So
    > congrats to that person, and once again thanks to Microsoft for making
    > things like this happen.


    That's great for the student (and Microsoft). What was that quote? Oh,
    that's right, I'll have to adapt it a bit though;

    "Winning a Microsoft promotional competition is like competing in the
    Special Olympics, you might have beaten a lot of other people and got a
    'medal'. However you're still handicapped by your own feelings of moral
    obligation. It erodes your objectivity."

    Clumsy I know but it sort of conveys my feelings on the subject.
    --
    ~misfit~
     
    ~misfit~, Jul 8, 2005
    #14
  15. Waylon Kenning

    Porky Guest

    On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 12:55:21 +1200, ~misfit~ wrote:



    >
    > "Winning a Microsoft promotional competition is like competing in the
    > Special Olympics, you might have beaten a lot of other people and got a
    > 'medal'. However you're still handicapped by your own feelings of moral
    > obligation. It erodes your objectivity."
    >


    God your a bigger tosser than lennier...
     
    Porky, Jul 8, 2005
    #15
  16. Waylon Kenning

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Porky wrote:
    > On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 12:55:21 +1200, ~misfit~ wrote:
    >>
    >> "Winning a Microsoft promotional competition is like competing in the
    >> Special Olympics, you might have beaten a lot of other people and
    >> got a 'medal'. However you're still handicapped by your own feelings
    >> of moral obligation. It erodes your objectivity."
    >>

    >
    > God your a bigger tosser than lennier...


    And you've missed the point entirely. I'm not anti MS or pro OSS or
    anything. I'm just talking about subtle marketing techniques. It could
    easilly apply to any product/marketing.

    Do try to exercise your brain and read what's written instead of jumping to
    contusions.

    Oh, and to maintain the tone you injected into a sensible conversation:
    You're a bigger moron than woger.
    --
    ~misfit~
     
    ~misfit~, Jul 8, 2005
    #16
  17. Waylon Kenning

    Porky Guest

    On Sat, 09 Jul 2005 03:01:11 +1200, ~misfit~ wrote:

    .."
    >>>

    >>
    >> God your a bigger tosser than lennier...

    >
    > And you've missed the point entirely. I'm not anti MS or pro OSS or
    > anything. I'm just talking about subtle marketing techniques. It could
    > easilly apply to any product/marketing.
    >


    Stop fucking whinning about what microsoft do every chance you get then.


    > Do try to exercise your brain and read what's written instead of jumping to
    > contusions.


    You linux advocates should stop whinning, damn i mentioned that word
    "whinning again, and do what MS have done.

    Get companys like Suse , Redhat mandrake , xandros / the other 250
    odd free distros & linux advocates involved into promoting
    Linux into schools in a similar way that Microsft did with Waylons school.

    And promote Linux in a positve way, that gets kids like Waylon interested
    in OSS.

    > Oh, and to maintain the tone you injected into a sensible conversation:
    > You're a bigger moron than woger.



    Your blinded by your own linear views. It erodes your objectivity."

    Paul
     
    Porky, Jul 9, 2005
    #17
  18. Waylon Kenning

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Porky wrote:
    > On Sat, 09 Jul 2005 03:01:11 +1200, ~misfit~ wrote:
    >
    > ."
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> God your a bigger tosser than lennier...

    >>
    >> And you've missed the point entirely. I'm not anti MS or pro OSS or
    >> anything. I'm just talking about subtle marketing techniques. It
    >> could easilly apply to any product/marketing.
    >>

    >
    > Stop fucking whinning about what microsoft do every chance you get
    > then.


    Are you taking your meds? I have a lot more opportunities to "whine about
    microsoft" than I do.

    >> Do try to exercise your brain and read what's written instead of
    >> jumping to contusions.

    >
    > You linux advocates should stop whinning, damn i mentioned that word
    > "whinning again, and do what MS have done.


    LOL, now I've heard it all! I'm a linux advocate now. Malcolm, you still
    reading here? It seems you won't have to get me to "come to the dark side",
    I'm already an advocate. Woot! Do I get a badge or something?

    > Get companys like Suse , Redhat mandrake , xandros / the other 250
    > odd free distros & linux advocates involved into promoting
    > Linux into schools in a similar way that Microsft did with Waylons
    > school.


    You're a nutter, it's obvious now, sorry I tried to talk to you like a
    rational person. "companys" (sic) like Suse, Redhat and whatever else you
    wrote haven't been ripping people off so completely for years on end that
    they are constantly in court in one country or another fighting anti-trust
    or monopoly lawsuits. These other companys (sic) that you mention are in the
    business of making software, not making billions of dollars and tying PC
    companys (sic) into OEM deals etc.

    Only Microsoft has the kind of budget that enables them to practice these
    socio-economic experiments in education that will ensure that they still
    have billions of dollars to battle court-cases for the next few decades.

    > And promote Linux in a positve way, that gets kids like Waylon
    > interested in OSS.


    They're busy making good, affordable products rather than competing with
    medium-sized nations for GDP figures. They don't have the money needed to
    fly kids around the world, just the product.

    >> Oh, and to maintain the tone you injected into a sensible
    >> conversation: You're a bigger moron than woger.

    >
    > Your blinded by your own linear views. It erodes your objectivity."


    Is that supposed to be a quote? There is only a quotation mark after it, I
    don't see a starting one. Either way you have no idea about me. However I
    have a few insights into your personality. You gave yourself away by going
    on a personal attack rather than addressing the issues I bought up. You're a
    shit-stirrer, a brawler, nothing more. You don't have the intelligence to
    carry on an informed and insightful discussion. Your input consists of such
    gems as "God your (sic) a bigger tosser than lennier". You can't even spell
    yet alone debate. Go to the pub and get into a fight there, sounds like it's
    more your style.

    Or come around to my place and say something like that, unprovoked, to my
    face. I don't like bullies, I'll sort you out.
    --
    ~misfit~
     
    ~misfit~, Jul 9, 2005
    #18
  19. Waylon Kenning

    Bling-Bling Guest

    On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:28:18 -0700, Waylon Kenning wrote:

    > As a prize,
    > Microsoft sent me Windows Small Business Server 2003 Premium Edition,
    > worth about $3000NZ here. So I'd just like to say a big public thank
    > you to Microsoft for the prize, it's very much so appreciated and I'll
    > definitely be entering again next year, which is something I highly
    > recommend for all you students studying IT.


    Sounds to me more like a virus-targeted lemon than a prize.


    Bling Bling

    --
    "Microsoft don't need any moral right to be a hypocrite. It's an oxymoron.
    They will do what they can get away with. Of course this makes it difficult
    for their advocates to occupy any high moral ground."
     
    Bling-Bling, Jul 9, 2005
    #19
  20. Waylon Kenning

    Porky Guest

    On Sat, 09 Jul 2005 18:36:43 +1200, ~misfit~ wrote:

    > Are you taking your meds? I have a lot more opportunities to "whine about
    > microsoft" than I do.


    Shoe fits eh ....


    > LOL, now I've heard it all! I'm a linux advocate now. Malcolm, you still
    > reading here? It seems you won't have to get me to "come to the dark side",
    > I'm already an advocate. Woot! Do I get a badge or something?


    A badge ... why would a adult want a badge ?

    >
    > You're a nutter, it's obvious now, sorry I tried to talk to you like a
    > rational person. "companys" (sic) like Suse, Redhat and whatever else you
    > wrote haven't been ripping people off so completely for years on end that
    > they are constantly in court in one country or another fighting anti-trust
    > or monopoly lawsuits. These other companys (sic) that you mention are in the
    > business of making software, not making billions of dollars and tying PC
    > companys (sic) into OEM deals etc.
    >


    Well lets examine that small myth ...

    Microsft are hardly the first or last offender for being
    a convicted monopoly ...maybe you have heard of IBM .
    History shows us the US government has certainly dealt to other monopoly's.


    Regarding Redhat well once RH gained its lion share of the market ....
    you know where redhat`s market share out numbered all the other distro`s
    combined.

    God damn sounds like another monopoly to me, that no one talks about.

    That said monopoly then decided to dump its SOHO user base, its loyal
    customer base no longer mattered .... all that mattered was profits for
    its share holders.

    Oh the in-humanity ... a company thats only interested in makes obscene
    amounts of cash for its shareholders. But you have to give redhat
    credit ... they did turn the fedora core users into un-paid ***** BETA
    ***** testers.

    But even in linux land eventually people wake up, and are now pressuring
    redhat to drop its exorbitant prices.



    > Only Microsoft has the kind of budget that enables them to practice these
    > socio-economic experiments in education that will ensure that they still
    > have billions of dollars to battle court-cases for the next few decades.



    Pretty smart move ... get students intersted in their software,
    offer the top students jobs in Microsoft once they have left school.

    Besides certain sectors of the Linux community give away their software
    for free , so why cant Microsoft give away software
    & software deals to schools.

    Microsoft are slowly adapting, your whining wont help anyone.

    >> Your blinded by your own linear views. It erodes your objectivity."

    >
    > Is that supposed to be a quote? There is only a quotation mark after it, I
    > don't see a starting one.


    Your anal compulsive like Bling blong. and you can quote me on that

    But I was just redirecting your patronizing crap right back at you ...
    Linux advocates like to dish it out in this NG , pathetic they even bully
    school kids now.

    >Either way you have no idea about me.


    Either way ... your a moron just like lennier .

    >However I have a few insights into your personality.

    You gave yourself away by going
    > on a personal attack rather than addressing the issues I bought up.


    I wasnt the one that personally attacked some poor school kid.
    If you have such poor low self esteem there are other and
    certainly better avenues to explore.

    >You're a shit-stirrer, a brawler, nothing more.
    >You don't have the intelligence to

    carry on an informed and insightful discussion.

    Thats your arrogance where you and the other linux advocates confuse
    informed and insightful discussion with patronizing , put downs.

    >Your input consists of such
    > gems as "God your (sic) a bigger tosser than lennier".

    You can't even spell> yet alone debate. Go to the pub and get
    nto a fight there, sounds like it's more your style.
    >


    Your waffling ...............

    > Or come around to my place and say something like that,

    unprovoked, to my > face. I don't like bullies, I'll sort you out.

    You want to fight now ... what happened to addressing
    the issues I bought up earlier speech.


    Dear god its like arguing with the 5 personalities that avatar had.

    >However I have a few insights into your personality.

    You gave yourself away by going on a personal attack r.

    I dont like you or the other Linux advocates and you can quote me on
    that .

    But sure Ill come around ....

    and ill make you my "**** house bitch ***** "


    and lennier can cook my meals and Lawrence can wash my van ....


    nuff said .....
     
    Porky, Jul 10, 2005
    #20
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