Test results: DVD+R recorded on DVD-recorder won't play on PC

Discussion in 'DVD Video' started by Lars-Erik Østerud, Jan 8, 2006.

  1. Done som testing to figure out what works and what does not :)

    1) Recording on DVD+R, edit of title afterwards, finalize:
    + Play on some DVD-splayers (haven't found the logic yet)
    + Files readable on PC (can be copied etc)
    - Does not play in MediaPlayer on PC (complete lockup)
    - DVD Shrink gives error when trying to scan the disc

    2) Recording on DVD+R, finalize immediatly (no editing)
    + Plays on most DVD-players
    + Files readable on PC (can be copied etc)
    + Plays in MediaPlayer (but you can't use the position-bar)
    - DVD Shrink gives error when trying to scan the disc

    3) Recording on DVD+RW
    + Plays on all DVD-players
    + Files readable on PC (can be copied etc)
    + Plays in MediaPlayer (but you can't use the position-bar)
    + DVD Shrink scans the disc OK like a standard DVD

    Conclusion must be that if you record directly to a DVD+R you cannot
    edit anything on the disc. Then something is messed up inside the .IFO
    and .VOB files, and MediaPlayer and some DVD-players refuses to play.

    Best choice seems to be recording on DVD+RW. Then you can edit (title
    names, index pictures, add chapter, remove commercials etc) and then
    make a copy to a DVD+R on a PC afterwards to get a standard DVD-video.

    But it's a shame (and strange) that you can't even chosse the title
    name on a DVD+R recording without messing it up (why can't it ask for
    the title name at start or end of the recording, then you wouldn't
    have to write more to the disc - seems like that is the problem).

    BTW: Havn't tried recording two seesion to one disk yet :)
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    Lars-Erik Østerud, Jan 8, 2006
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  2. Lars-Erik Østerud

    maiet Guest

    "Lars-Erik Østerud" <.@.> wrote in message
    news:eek:X4wf.3428$zc1.64@amstwist00...
    > Done som testing to figure out what works and what does not :)
    >
    > 1) Recording on DVD+R, edit of title afterwards, finalize:
    > + Play on some DVD-splayers (haven't found the logic yet)
    > + Files readable on PC (can be copied etc)
    > - Does not play in MediaPlayer on PC (complete lockup)


    fine for me

    - DVD Shrink gives error when trying to scan the disc

    fine for me

    > 2) Recording on DVD+R, finalize immediatly (no editing)
    > + Plays on most DVD-players
    > + Files readable on PC (can be copied etc)
    > + Plays in MediaPlayer (but you can't use the position-bar)
    > - DVD Shrink gives error when trying to scan the disc


    again, fine for me

    > 3) Recording on DVD+RW
    > + Plays on all DVD-players
    > + Files readable on PC (can be copied etc)
    > + Plays in MediaPlayer (but you can't use the position-bar)
    > + DVD Shrink scans the disc OK like a standard DVD
    >
    > Conclusion must be that if you record directly to a DVD+R you cannot
    > edit anything on the disc. Then something is messed up inside the .IFO
    > and .VOB files, and MediaPlayer and some DVD-players refuses to play.
    >
    > Best choice seems to be recording on DVD+RW. Then you can edit (title
    > names, index pictures, add chapter, remove commercials etc) and then
    > make a copy to a DVD+R on a PC afterwards to get a standard DVD-video.
    >
    > But it's a shame (and strange) that you can't even chosse the title
    > name on a DVD+R recording without messing it up Live!


    works for me
     
    maiet, Jan 8, 2006
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  3. Lars-Erik Østerud

    maiet Guest

    in my testing, a recording done on a +r disc from a cheap +r reocrder wont
    be recognized in dvd shrink. however, on a more expensive recorder its fne.

    "maiet" <> wrote in message
    news:43c0df9a$0$17702$...
    >
    > "Lars-Erik Østerud" <.@.> wrote in message
    > news:eek:X4wf.3428$zc1.64@amstwist00...
    > > Done som testing to figure out what works and what does not :)
    > >
    > > 1) Recording on DVD+R, edit of title afterwards, finalize:
    > > + Play on some DVD-splayers (haven't found the logic yet)
    > > + Files readable on PC (can be copied etc)
    > > - Does not play in MediaPlayer on PC (complete lockup)

    >
    > fine for me
    >
    > - DVD Shrink gives error when trying to scan the disc
    >
    > fine for me
    >
    > > 2) Recording on DVD+R, finalize immediatly (no editing)
    > > + Plays on most DVD-players
    > > + Files readable on PC (can be copied etc)
    > > + Plays in MediaPlayer (but you can't use the position-bar)
    > > - DVD Shrink gives error when trying to scan the disc

    >
    > again, fine for me
    >
    > > 3) Recording on DVD+RW
    > > + Plays on all DVD-players
    > > + Files readable on PC (can be copied etc)
    > > + Plays in MediaPlayer (but you can't use the position-bar)
    > > + DVD Shrink scans the disc OK like a standard DVD
    > >
    > > Conclusion must be that if you record directly to a DVD+R you cannot
    > > edit anything on the disc. Then something is messed up inside the .IFO
    > > and .VOB files, and MediaPlayer and some DVD-players refuses to play.
    > >
    > > Best choice seems to be recording on DVD+RW. Then you can edit (title
    > > names, index pictures, add chapter, remove commercials etc) and then
    > > make a copy to a DVD+R on a PC afterwards to get a standard DVD-video.
    > >
    > > But it's a shame (and strange) that you can't even chosse the title
    > > name on a DVD+R recording without messing it up Live!

    >
    > works for me
    >
    >
     
    maiet, Jan 8, 2006
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  4. Lars-Erik Østerud

    GMAN Guest

    In article <43c0e03c$0$9291$>, "maiet" <> wrote:
    >in my testing, a recording done on a +r disc from a cheap +r reocrder wont
    >be recognized in dvd shrink. however, on a more expensive recorder its fne.
    >


    That is because many of the cheap walmart type $100 burners record in VR mode,
    whick many pc software titles have trouble with.
    Tmpg DVD author should work as does Ulead 4.0 and others in reading the disks
    though.


    >"maiet" <> wrote in message
    >news:43c0df9a$0$17702$...
    >>
    >> "Lars-Erik Østerud" <.@.> wrote in message
    >> news:eek:X4wf.3428$zc1.64@amstwist00...
    >> > Done som testing to figure out what works and what does not :)
    >> >
    >> > 1) Recording on DVD+R, edit of title afterwards, finalize:
    >> > + Play on some DVD-splayers (haven't found the logic yet)
    >> > + Files readable on PC (can be copied etc)
    >> > - Does not play in MediaPlayer on PC (complete lockup)

    >>
    >> fine for me
    >>
    >> - DVD Shrink gives error when trying to scan the disc
    >>
    >> fine for me
    >>
    >> > 2) Recording on DVD+R, finalize immediatly (no editing)
    >> > + Plays on most DVD-players
    >> > + Files readable on PC (can be copied etc)
    >> > + Plays in MediaPlayer (but you can't use the position-bar)
    >> > - DVD Shrink gives error when trying to scan the disc

    >>
    >> again, fine for me
    >>
    >> > 3) Recording on DVD+RW
    >> > + Plays on all DVD-players
    >> > + Files readable on PC (can be copied etc)
    >> > + Plays in MediaPlayer (but you can't use the position-bar)
    >> > + DVD Shrink scans the disc OK like a standard DVD
    >> >
    >> > Conclusion must be that if you record directly to a DVD+R you cannot
    >> > edit anything on the disc. Then something is messed up inside the .IFO
    >> > and .VOB files, and MediaPlayer and some DVD-players refuses to play.
    >> >
    >> > Best choice seems to be recording on DVD+RW. Then you can edit (title
    >> > names, index pictures, add chapter, remove commercials etc) and then
    >> > make a copy to a DVD+R on a PC afterwards to get a standard DVD-video.
    >> >
    >> > But it's a shame (and strange) that you can't even chosse the title
    >> > name on a DVD+R recording without messing it up Live!

    >>
    >> works for me
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
     
    GMAN, Jan 8, 2006
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  5. Lars-Erik Østerud

    Guest

    In alt.video.dvd.tech Lars-Erik ?sterud <.@.> wrote:

    | Conclusion must be that if you record directly to a DVD+R you cannot
    | edit anything on the disc. Then something is messed up inside the .IFO
    | and .VOB files, and MediaPlayer and some DVD-players refuses to play.

    The software on consumer devices tends to be the kind of junk you would
    get from hiring the lowest bidder when letting out a contract to do the
    development.


    | But it's a shame (and strange) that you can't even chosse the title
    | name on a DVD+R recording without messing it up (why can't it ask for
    | the title name at start or end of the recording, then you wouldn't
    | have to write more to the disc - seems like that is the problem).

    Actually it works for me on Panasonic and RCA recorders and Panasonic
    and Magnavox players in all combinations when I've renamed the program
    and/or renamed the disc.


    | BTW: Havn't tried recording two seesion to one disk yet :)

    I've recorded as many as 8.

    I do tend to see other strange errors, which may be software or hardware.
    Things like refusing to finalize and just powering itself off in the middle
    of a recording. I've also had cases of disc filling up after about 5 minutes
    of recording on a fresh new disk just taken from a freshly unwrapped spindle
    and where I can see just a little bit actually recorded on the backside.

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    , Jan 10, 2006
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