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  1. Trish

    Trish Guest

    Hello everyone,

    I'm studying for test 70-271. I'm A+ certified and have my NT 4.0 certs.
    I'm trying to do a little updating now..and I'm a bit rusty.

    I'm in Chapter 5 of the MS press book...about ntfs permissions..and then
    supporting shared folders. Here is my question.

    What is the difference? I find this sooo confusing. Can anyone tell me
    what the difference is between NTFS permissions...folder...and Shared
    folders? I need a brain jog!! Ahhh!
    Thanks.
    Trish, Sep 11, 2006
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  2. Trish

    Trish Guest

    Wait..wait!!! Typing that made my brain wake up! :) But...if you have any
    advice on how to keep the permissions straight...on the two subjects...do
    tell!
    Thanks

    "Trish" wrote:

    > Hello everyone,
    >
    > I'm studying for test 70-271. I'm A+ certified and have my NT 4.0 certs.
    > I'm trying to do a little updating now..and I'm a bit rusty.
    >
    > I'm in Chapter 5 of the MS press book...about ntfs permissions..and then
    > supporting shared folders. Here is my question.
    >
    > What is the difference? I find this sooo confusing. Can anyone tell me
    > what the difference is between NTFS permissions...folder...and Shared
    > folders? I need a brain jog!! Ahhh!
    > Thanks.
    Trish, Sep 11, 2006
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  3. Trish

    Montreal MCT Guest

    HI Trish,

    NTFS Rights are what are applied to the folder. Share Permissions are
    applied (you guessed it!) to the Share, which is why if you have a folder on
    drive C that is called c:\Directory that you are sharing as
    \\computer\directory you can have different access when accessing it through
    the drive as to accessing it by the share, even though they are the same
    files.

    Hope that clears it up :)

    M
    --
    MDG, MCT
    MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
    Certified Small Business Specialist
    Visit my blog at www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/59/BlogID/2/Default.aspx


    "Trish" wrote:

    > Hello everyone,
    >
    > I'm studying for test 70-271. I'm A+ certified and have my NT 4.0 certs.
    > I'm trying to do a little updating now..and I'm a bit rusty.
    >
    > I'm in Chapter 5 of the MS press book...about ntfs permissions..and then
    > supporting shared folders. Here is my question.
    >
    > What is the difference? I find this sooo confusing. Can anyone tell me
    > what the difference is between NTFS permissions...folder...and Shared
    > folders? I need a brain jog!! Ahhh!
    > Thanks.
    Montreal MCT, Sep 12, 2006
    #3
  4. "Trish" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Wait..wait!!! Typing that made my brain wake up! :) But...if you have
    > any
    > advice on how to keep the permissions straight...on the two subjects...do
    > tell!
    > Thanks
    >
    > "Trish" wrote:
    >
    >> Hello everyone,
    >>
    >> I'm studying for test 70-271. I'm A+ certified and have my NT 4.0 certs.
    >> I'm trying to do a little updating now..and I'm a bit rusty.
    >>
    >> I'm in Chapter 5 of the MS press book...about ntfs permissions..and then
    >> supporting shared folders. Here is my question.
    >>
    >> What is the difference? I find this sooo confusing. Can anyone tell me
    >> what the difference is between NTFS permissions...folder...and Shared
    >> folders? I need a brain jog!! Ahhh!
    >> Thanks.


    Hi Trish,

    The way I keep NFTS versus share permissions straight is by telling myself
    that share permissions are network assess permissions and NTFS permission
    are for the person sitting at the machine. I then try to remember that I
    give access across the network and take them away at the desktop. That helps
    me remember that NTFS permissions that are more restrictive than the share
    permissions override the share permissions but I can never have more access
    than I was given via the share.

    --
    Andy Ruth
    Program Manager for the Microsoft Certified Architect program
    Microsoft Learning

    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    rights.
    Andy Ruth [MSFT], Sep 12, 2006
    #4
  5. Trish

    Trish Guest

    Thank you sooo much Montreal MCT and Andy Ruth! I appreciate that soo
    much...and both of your answers cleared up my thinking! I copied and pasted
    your replies into note pad...in case my brain goes wacky on me again.
    Trish

    "Montreal MCT" wrote:

    > HI Trish,
    >
    > NTFS Rights are what are applied to the folder. Share Permissions are
    > applied (you guessed it!) to the Share, which is why if you have a folder on
    > drive C that is called c:\Directory that you are sharing as
    > \\computer\directory you can have different access when accessing it through
    > the drive as to accessing it by the share, even though they are the same
    > files.
    >
    > Hope that clears it up :)
    >
    > M
    > --
    > MDG, MCT
    > MCSA (2003), MCSA (2000), MCDST.
    > Certified Small Business Specialist
    > Visit my blog at www.mitpro.ca/Blogs/tabid/59/BlogID/2/Default.aspx
    >
    >
    > "Trish" wrote:
    >
    > > Hello everyone,
    > >
    > > I'm studying for test 70-271. I'm A+ certified and have my NT 4.0 certs.
    > > I'm trying to do a little updating now..and I'm a bit rusty.
    > >
    > > I'm in Chapter 5 of the MS press book...about ntfs permissions..and then
    > > supporting shared folders. Here is my question.
    > >
    > > What is the difference? I find this sooo confusing. Can anyone tell me
    > > what the difference is between NTFS permissions...folder...and Shared
    > > folders? I need a brain jog!! Ahhh!
    > > Thanks.
    Trish, Sep 13, 2006
    #5
  6. Trish

    Trish Guest

    Frisbee...your funny! :)

    "Frisbee®" wrote:

    > "Trish" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Thank you sooo much Montreal MCT and Andy Ruth! I appreciate that soo
    > > much...and both of your answers cleared up my thinking! I copied and
    > > pasted
    > > your replies into note pad...in case my brain goes wacky on me again.
    > > Trish

    >
    > Sheesh... and neither of them even asked if you were hawt.
    >
    > What's this world coming to?
    >
    >
    >
    Trish, Sep 13, 2006
    #6
  7. When looking at the Windows security model think about the path of how you
    get there, because the Share-Permissions and the NTFS-Permissions work hand
    ind hand as follows:
    First look at the access control list of the Share and add all the
    permissions of all the groups you are a member of. Those are your effective
    Share-Permissions. Think of it as the Pipeline you are coming through: You
    will never have more access than the share you are using gives you.
    Now look at the access control list of the Folder (or File) you want to
    access and add all the permissions of all the groups you are a member of.
    Those are your effective NTFS-Permissions.
    If these give you more permissions than the Share-Permissions, the
    NTFS-Permissions are ignored.
    If the NTFS-Permissions are more restrictive than the Share-Permissions,
    NTFS-Permissions win.

    Hope that helps,
    :: Jan Philipp, MCT ::..

    "Trish" <> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
    news:...
    > Hello everyone,
    >
    > I'm studying for test 70-271. I'm A+ certified and have my NT 4.0 certs.
    > I'm trying to do a little updating now..and I'm a bit rusty.
    >
    > I'm in Chapter 5 of the MS press book...about ntfs permissions..and then
    > supporting shared folders. Here is my question.
    >
    > What is the difference? I find this sooo confusing. Can anyone tell me
    > what the difference is between NTFS permissions...folder...and Shared
    > folders? I need a brain jog!! Ahhh!
    > Thanks.
    :: Jan Philipp ::.., Oct 3, 2006
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