Telecom Website hosted in Ozzie?

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Max, Feb 16, 2004.

  1. Max

    Max Guest

    Was having difficulty loading the telecom.co.nz website, and did a
    visual traceroute on it, and it appears to be hosted in Ozzie??? Does
    this sound right, as it sounds very strange that they would host their
    site off shore. XTra is hosted in NZ but not Telecoms one.
     
    Max, Feb 16, 2004
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  2. Max wrote:
    > Was having difficulty loading the telecom.co.nz website, and did a
    > visual traceroute on it, and it appears to be hosted in Ozzie??? Does
    > this sound right, as it sounds very strange that they would host their
    > site off shore. XTra is hosted in NZ but not Telecoms one.


    post the tracert...

    If your ISP uses Telstra as an upstream, this could cause it to look
    that way.

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    T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz, Feb 16, 2004
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  3. Max

    Max Guest

    On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:53:34 +1300, "T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz"
    <> wrote:

    >Max wrote:
    >> Was having difficulty loading the telecom.co.nz website, and did a
    >> visual traceroute on it, and it appears to be hosted in Ozzie??? Does
    >> this sound right, as it sounds very strange that they would host their
    >> site off shore. XTra is hosted in NZ but not Telecoms one.

    >
    >post the tracert...
    >
    >If your ISP uses Telstra as an upstream, this could cause it to look
    >that way.


    Here it is

    | 1 | | 202.180.80.10 | nas2.wlg.tranzpeer.net | ?(New Zealand) | +12:00 | 141 | x | CallPlus Services Limited |
    | 2 | | 202.180.65.89 | cer1.wlg.tranzpeer.net | ?(New Zealand) | +12:00 | 141 | x | CallPlus Services Limited |
    | 3 | | 202.180.67.253 | - | ?(New Zealand) | +12:00 | 158 | x- | CallPlus Services Limited |
    | 4 | | 202.180.64.71 | vlan5.br1.akl.tranzpeer.net | ?(New Zealand) | +12:00 | 195 | -x------ | CallPlus Services Limited |
    | 5 | | 202.50.116.197 | a5-0-0-24.akcr5.global-gateway.net.nz | - | | 180 | -x-- | NZ Gate National Service Provider |
    | 6 | | 202.50.245.106 | a3-0-5.tkcr1.global-gateway.net.nz | - | | 174 | -x | NZ Gate National Service Provider |
    | 7 | | 202.50.245.206 | tcnz-is-dom2.tkcr1.global-gateway.net.nz | - | | 164 | x- | NZ Gate National Service Provider |
    | 8 | | 146.171.18.210 | - | ?(Australia) | +10:00 | 162 | x-- | Asia Pacific Network Information Centre APNIC-ERX-146-171-0-0 |
    | 9 | | 146.171.18.242 | telecom.co.nz | ?(Australia) | +10:00 | 161 | x-- | Asia Pacific Network Information Centre APNIC-ERX-146-171-0-0 |
     
    Max, Feb 16, 2004
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  4. On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:09:46 +1300, Max <>
    wrote:

    >On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:53:34 +1300, "T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz"
    ><> wrote:
    >
    >>Max wrote:
    >>> Was having difficulty loading the telecom.co.nz website, and did a
    >>> visual traceroute on it, and it appears to be hosted in Ozzie??? Does
    >>> this sound right, as it sounds very strange that they would host their
    >>> site off shore. XTra is hosted in NZ but not Telecoms one.

    >>
    >>post the tracert...
    >>
    >>If your ISP uses Telstra as an upstream, this could cause it to look
    >>that way.

    >
    >Here it is

    |
    >| 8 | | 146.171.18.210 | - | ?(Australia) | +10:00 | 162 | x-- | Asia Pacific Network Information Centre APNIC-ERX-146-171-0-0 |
    >| 9 | | 146.171.18.242 | telecom.co.nz | ?(Australia) | +10:00 | 161 | x-- | Asia Pacific Network Information Centre APNIC-ERX-146-171-0-0 |


    The class b IP address range starting with 146.171 is assigned to
    Telecom NZ. They seemed to be used for Telecom proper, Xtra and
    Netway (or Netgate or whatever they are called now) typically use
    other address ranges.

    It is possible that Telecom have there webserver located in Australia,
    but highly unlikely. The most likely answer is that the program you
    are using doesn't know where the address is located so it is guessing
    incorrectly that because it was assign by APNIC that it is located in
    Australia.

    --
    Richard Gallagher
     
    Richard Gallagher, Feb 16, 2004
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  5. Max

    ufo_hk Guest

    Not so sure - Telecoms eservice offerings are based upon servers hosted in
    the states. So wh not their own sites servers?

    "Richard Gallagher" <> wrote in message
    news:...


    > It is possible that Telecom have there webserver located in Australia,
    > but highly unlikely.
    >
    > --
    > Richard Gallagher
     
    ufo_hk, Feb 17, 2004
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  6. Max

    -[Myth]- Guest

    On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 01:52:16 +1300, Richard Gallagher wrote:

    > On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:09:46 +1300, Max <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:53:34 +1300, "T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz"
    >><> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Max wrote:
    >>>> Was having difficulty loading the telecom.co.nz website, and did a
    >>>> visual traceroute on it, and it appears to be hosted in Ozzie??? Does
    >>>> this sound right, as it sounds very strange that they would host their
    >>>> site off shore. XTra is hosted in NZ but not Telecoms one.
    >>>
    >>>post the tracert...
    >>>
    >>>If your ISP uses Telstra as an upstream, this could cause it to look
    >>>that way.

    >>
    >>Here it is

    > |
    >>| 8 | | 146.171.18.210 | - | ?(Australia) | +10:00 | 162 | x-- | Asia Pacific Network Information Centre APNIC-ERX-146-171-0-0 |
    >>| 9 | | 146.171.18.242 | telecom.co.nz | ?(Australia) | +10:00 | 161 | x-- | Asia Pacific Network Information Centre APNIC-ERX-146-171-0-0 |

    >
    > The class b IP address range starting with 146.171 is assigned to
    > Telecom NZ. They seemed to be used for Telecom proper, Xtra and
    > Netway (or Netgate or whatever they are called now) typically use
    > other address ranges.
    >
    > It is possible that Telecom have there webserver located in Australia,
    > but highly unlikely. The most likely answer is that the program you
    > are using doesn't know where the address is located so it is guessing
    > incorrectly that because it was assign by APNIC that it is located in
    > Australia.


    They probably do it so jetstream users use up more data and pay telecom :D
     
    -[Myth]-, Feb 17, 2004
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  7. Max

    Enkidu Guest

    Erm, costs? They'll not mind clients paying for traffic, but they
    won't want to pay for it themselves. Sure it would be only wooden
    dollars, but still. Another reason could be convenience. It's a lot
    easier if your admins and programmers can put their mitts on the
    console keyboard. Another reason is expertise. They have the ability
    and knowledge to set stuff up. I'm not sure what the eservice stuff
    gives, but I bet the environment is pretty heavily specced and
    monitored by the local agents.

    Cheers,

    Cliff

    On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:34:43 +1300, "ufo_hk" <>
    wrote:

    >Not so sure - Telecoms eservice offerings are based upon servers hosted in
    >the states. So wh not their own sites servers?
    >
    >"Richard Gallagher" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >
    >
    >> It is possible that Telecom have there webserver located in Australia,
    >> but highly unlikely.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Richard Gallagher

    >
     
    Enkidu, Feb 17, 2004
    #7
  8. Max

    Max Guest

    On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:20:34 +1300, "-[Myth]-"
    <> wrote:

    >On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 01:52:16 +1300, Richard Gallagher wrote:
    >
    >> On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:09:46 +1300, Max <>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:53:34 +1300, "T.N.O. - Dave.net.nz"
    >>><> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>Max wrote:
    >>>>> Was having difficulty loading the telecom.co.nz website, and did a
    >>>>> visual traceroute on it, and it appears to be hosted in Ozzie??? Does
    >>>>> this sound right, as it sounds very strange that they would host their
    >>>>> site off shore. XTra is hosted in NZ but not Telecoms one.
    >>>>
    >>>>post the tracert...
    >>>>
    >>>>If your ISP uses Telstra as an upstream, this could cause it to look
    >>>>that way.
    >>>
    >>>Here it is

    >> |
    >>>| 8 | | 146.171.18.210 | - | ?(Australia) | +10:00 | 162 | x-- | Asia Pacific Network Information Centre APNIC-ERX-146-171-0-0 |
    >>>| 9 | | 146.171.18.242 | telecom.co.nz | ?(Australia) | +10:00 | 161 | x-- | Asia Pacific Network Information Centre APNIC-ERX-146-171-0-0 |

    >>
    >> The class b IP address range starting with 146.171 is assigned to
    >> Telecom NZ. They seemed to be used for Telecom proper, Xtra and
    >> Netway (or Netgate or whatever they are called now) typically use
    >> other address ranges.
    >>
    >> It is possible that Telecom have there webserver located in Australia,
    >> but highly unlikely. The most likely answer is that the program you
    >> are using doesn't know where the address is located so it is guessing
    >> incorrectly that because it was assign by APNIC that it is located in
    >> Australia.

    >
    >They probably do it so jetstream users use up more data and pay telecom :D



    That's what the cynic in me was thinking :)

    Telecom do offer services in ozzie, so this could be a step in
    centralising their services in to Australia.
     
    Max, Feb 17, 2004
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