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Discussion in 'MCAD' started by Vijay, Jul 23, 2004.

  1. Vijay

    Vijay Guest

    Here is the brief summary of the newsgroup as of 12:52pm
    on July 23, 2004

    Contents:
    1.Useful Links
    2.Model questions
    3.general comments
    4.Other recommendations

    1. Useful links:

    www.walshsw.com not a big database, but 10$ for 30days

    Amit Kalani's blue traning guide:
    www.techcontent.com

    http://i.1asphost.com/MCPTEST/ 7 CAD / 7days. Demo
    10questions

    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-316.asp#TOOLS

    MS has some free assessment tests on the web
    http://www.msmeasureup.com/test/Start_Test.asp?NNQT=1

    http://www.testking.com/70-306.htm


    Transcenders -> good, costly . =~ Microsoft's MeasureUp
    software


    2. Model questions:

    kinds: the first is to match things up, or put them in
    certain
    categories. I don't remember seeing many of this kind. For
    example, a
    list of methods on one side, and a list of classes on the
    other side.
    Match up the methods with the classes that have those
    methods.

    The other kind is to put some steps in order. Take an item
    from this
    column, and move it to the other column in the right order.

    You need to pay attention to see if all the steps are
    needed. Sometimes
    they through in some extra steps that you don't need.

    Here's a dumb little example: your task is to write data
    to a file.

    steps
    -----
    close the file
    open the file for writing
    delete the file
    open the file for reading
    write data to the file

    Now you need to drag these to another column in the right
    order:

    open the file for writing
    write data to the file
    close the file

    These steps would not be used:

    delete the file
    open the file for reading

    3. general comments:

    there will be many fine corporations ready to snap
    you up - however, remember there are less ms partners [of
    any worth]
    around these days!

    4. Recommendations:
    70-315 exam's textbook:
    Developing and implementing web applications with Visual
    C# .NET and Visual Studio .NET
    ISBN:0-7897-2822-2

    5.Miscellanious
     
    Vijay, Jul 23, 2004
    #1
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  2. Vijay

    Vijay Guest

    Summary of Threads from this newsgroup between July 7th -
    2:00pm on July 23 2004.

    Contents:
    I. Useful Links
    II. Recommendations
    III. Advertisements
    IV. Model questions


    Useful Links:
    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcad/
    www.correctexams.com
    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/
    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcad/default.asp
    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcsd/default.asp

    www.walshsw.com not a big database but $2.95 per exam or
    10$ for 30days,
    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/default.asp
    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcad/requirements.asp

    http://www.certificationworks.com/exam_discount_voucher_vue
    ..cfm - >more cheaper
    http://tinyurl.com/25nhg -> vb.net
    www.codeclinic.com
    http://tinyurl.com/38vky

    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcpexams/policies/innovat
    ions.asp



    Recommendations:
    --------Kalani's books:------begin
    I love the Kalani blue training guides, but in all
    honesty, the sample
    questions in that book, and in the red Exam Cram, just
    aren't good
    enough unless you really mastered the material in every
    detail.

    Kalani's questions seem good for a knowledge level, but
    the real test
    is more of a comprehension level test.
    ------------ Kalani's books ---end




    ---MCAD begin ---

    Am I MCAD Certified if I take these exams:
    >
    > 70-305
    > 70-306
    > 70-310
    >
    > Thanks in advance
    > -James


    Yes, but only if you pass them :)

    Frankly, I think people should consider the 70-229 in
    their MCAD. You
    don't need it for MCAD, but it shows that you know
    something about SQL
    Server, which is used by most .NET companies.

    If you want to be a web developer, I'd replace the 306
    with the 229.
    If you want to be a windows developer, I'd replace the 305
    with the 229.

    --MCAD end -----------



    -----ADO.net begin ----------------------------------------
    -------
    ADO,NET is covered in quite a few exams, 315, 316, 320,
    from what
    I have read in this newsgroup.
    -----ADO.net end ------------------------------------------
    -------

    ----70-306 -----begin -------------------------------------
    --------
    ----
    The book that I read word by word was the Self-paced
    Microsoft book (500 pages) by Matthew Stoecker. Its
    sample questions were a little too difficult, but good.
    Also bought Mike Gunderloy's book by QUE Certification,
    but didn't have time to use it much. That one is a little
    too detailed (1000 pages). Its sample questions were a
    little too easy, but good. Several of the answers to
    sample questions were wrong though.

    used getcertified4less.com to use one of their packages
    to register for the exam; that way it only cost me $35
    for the Transcender sample questions, which is normally
    over $110. The exam itself stays as $125. I thought the
    Transcender questions were totally worth it. Especially
    the comprehensive explanations to even the wrong choices
    in questions. The difficulty of its questions were just
    right. i.e., not too difficult, not too easy.

    Other books:
    ..Amit Kalani's book
    ..Franceso Balena's book
    ..Mike Gunderloy's book
    - has lot of examples


    ---

    ----70-306 -----end ---------------------------------------
    ------


    ----70-310 -----begin -------------------------------------
    --------

    "Learning XML, Second Edition" by Erik T. Ray
    ----70-310 -----end ---------------------------------------
    ------



    ----70-320 -----begin -------------------------------------
    --------
    Let me tell you, Kalani's book is not nearly as on the
    mark for this test as it was for 70-315. I felt like I
    was taking the wrong exam! Acutally, the topics were the
    same but there were questions about things I had never
    heard of, and I read Kalani cover to cover twice and did
    every exercise and step-by-step at least once. Along with
    that, most areas I read in Kalani lead to long meanderings
    through MSDN and other sites on the topics and still MS
    made that exam look pretty foreign.
    ----70-320 -----end ---------------------------------

    -------70-315-------being ----------------------------
    Programming C# (O'Reilly)
    Microsoft self-paced training kit
    Online MSDN - This is very helpful. you need to walk thru
    all the important class members and tips.
    ---------
    > Programming C# (O'Reilly)


    This book by Jesse Liberty is simply awesome for people
    who want to
    learn the C# language itself. Unfortunately, many people
    who study for
    certification don't understand that there's a lot more to
    C# than what
    is covered on the tests. This book is very good at
    explaining the OOP
    aspects of C#, and the more advanced aspects of the
    language.

    > Microsoft self-paced training kit


    This is best for people who can easily remember what they
    read. I
    personally like the Kalani Training Guides because they
    give me lots of
    small step-by-step examples. This helps me retain the info
    better. I'm
    a slow learner in some ways.

    > Online MSDN - This is very helpful. you need to walk

    thru
    > all the important class members and tips.


    This is a great resource, but it's got a huge scope! It's
    easy to go in
    looking for one thing, and get sidetracked into learning a
    lot of other
    things. I've spent hours in MSDN sometimes. My wife
    doesn't like me
    going to the MSDN site in the evening :-(

    > Test:
    > Microsoft sample self test


    These are very challenging, and they're more up-to-date
    than the actual
    tests. They're a good way to learn, but may not line up
    too well with
    the actual tests.

    > Transender ( I wont suggest this because it is way over
    > expensive.)


    It is expensive, but it's good for people like me who
    learn slowly.
    This is a good resource because the questions are relevant,
    challenging, and the answers are explained - both the
    right answers and
    the wrong answers.

    One thing to notice: their are often a couple right
    answers, but one is
    considered "more right", or maybe "more efficient" than
    the other
    answers. You need to know the "almost right" answers, and
    why they
    aren't the best choice.
    --------------70-315 end -------
    --------------------70-305 begin ---------
    Mikegundeley Training Guide

    --------------------70-305 end ---------

    ------ASP.nET ---------begin-------------------------------
    ------------------------------
    BrainBench tests are totally different than the real
    exams.
    ------ASP.nET ---------end---------------------------------
    -----------------------------



    Advertisements:


    1. can trade the following:

    (ebook)-70-315 MCSD MCAD -- Develop & Implement Web Apps
    with C#.pdf
    (ebook) O'Reilly - Programming C# 2nd Edition.pdf

    2. test vouchers for $10 LESS, NO TAX, FROM AMAZON
    http://tinyurl.com/3eyjq

    3. 07/13/2004 - Visual CertExam Sofware released Visual
    CertExam Suite
    1.0

    07/13/2004 - Visual CertExam Sofware released Visual
    CertExam Suite
    1.0, a test engine designed specifically for certification
    exam
    preparation.

    Visual CertExam Suite is a test engine designed
    specifically for
    certification exam preparation. It lets you create, edit
    and take
    practice exams in an environment very similar to the real
    exam. Visual
    CertExam Suite includes two applications: Visual CertExam
    Designer and
    Visual CertExam Manager.

    Visual CertExam Designer allows you to create and edit
    your own
    professional practice exams. It is designed, first of all,
    for authors
    involved in practice exam development. The application
    supports most
    of the question types used in certification exams and
    allows you to
    work on an exam using the intuitive user interface.
    Besides, the
    question preview feature lets the author see exactly how
    the question
    will appear during the examination.

    Visual CertExam Manager is designed for taking exams
    created with
    Visual CertExam Designer. The application interface
    provides the most
    realistic simulation of the real certification exam.
    Flexible
    examination mode settings (which can be password-protected
    from
    unauthorized change) make it possible to use Visual
    CertExam Manager
    not only for self-preparation, but also for giving
    practice exams to
    students in classrooms.

    Visual CertExam Suite primary features:

    - The most realistic certification exam simulation.
    - You can work with most of the question types used in
    certification
    exams (Multiple Choice, Fill in the Blank, Select and
    Place, Point and
    Shot, Hot Area, Create a Tree, Build List and Reorder,
    Drop and
    Connect).
    - Ability to create a case study based exams.
    - The question preview feature allows the author see
    exactly how a
    question will appear during an examination.
    - Supports question text formatting, including bullets,
    numbering and
    alignment.
    - All exam data (including images) is stored in a single
    file that
    simplifies copying and distribution of created exams.
    - Ability to work in a local network using file sharing.
    - You can set a password for opening an exam file in
    Visual CertExam
    Designer to prevent unauthorized copying, editing and
    printing of the
    exam data.

    4. Training centers in India
    http://www.microsoft.com/india/traincert/enhance/contact.as
    p

    5. http://www.getcertify4less.com/microsoft.asp


    Model questions:
    Q: You want to enable tracing in ASP.Net application. The
    application recide at the following URL
    http://srv01/app1/. you want to access the tracing
    information from your browser in your office. Which one of
    the follwing action should you take to add tracing the
    application.

    A. Add the following to the web.config
    <trace enabled="true" localonly="false">
    B. Add the following to the web.config
    <trace enabled="true" localonly="false"
    pageOutput="true">
    C. Add the following to the web.config
    <trace enabled="true" localonly="false"
    pageOutput="false">
    D. Add the following to the applications Logon.aspx file.
    <%@Pgae Trace="True" %>

    The correct answer suggested by the publisher is 'C'. But,
    I think it should be 'B'. In one way they both are true.
    Either you view it by browsing trace.axd or on the same
    page you looking at you are using a browser to view it.
    But, since they are not mentioning anything about
    trace.axd (Or a 3rd file name at all), I think what they
    meant it to view at the bottom of the page you are
    currently browsing for which you have to set
    the "pageOutput" to "true", hence answer B. Any other
    suggessions?.
     
    Vijay, Jul 23, 2004
    #2
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  3. Vijay

    Stranger Guest

    Is the 70-305 questions adaptive or fixed format?

    "Vijay" <> wrote in message news:<2f3701c470e7$6a0d4f70$>...
    > Summary of Threads from this newsgroup between July 7th -
    > 2:00pm on July 23 2004.
    >
    > Contents:
    > I. Useful Links
    > II. Recommendations
    > III. Advertisements
    > IV. Model questions
    >
    >
    > Useful Links:
    > http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcad/
    > www.correctexams.com
    > http://www.microsoft.com/learning/
    > http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcad/default.asp
    > http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcsd/default.asp
    >
    > www.walshsw.com not a big database but $2.95 per exam or
    > 10$ for 30days,
    > http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/default.asp
    > http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcad/requirements.asp
    >
    > http://www.certificationworks.com/exam_discount_voucher_vue
    > .cfm - >more cheaper
    > http://tinyurl.com/25nhg -> vb.net
    > www.codeclinic.com
    > http://tinyurl.com/38vky
    >
    > http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcpexams/policies/innovat
    > ions.asp
    >
    >
    >
    > Recommendations:
    > --------Kalani's books:------begin
    > I love the Kalani blue training guides, but in all
    > honesty, the sample
    > questions in that book, and in the red Exam Cram, just
    > aren't good
    > enough unless you really mastered the material in every
    > detail.
    >
    > Kalani's questions seem good for a knowledge level, but
    > the real test
    > is more of a comprehension level test.
    > ------------ Kalani's books ---end
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > ---MCAD begin ---
    >
    > Am I MCAD Certified if I take these exams:
    > >
    > > 70-305
    > > 70-306
    > > 70-310
    > >
    > > Thanks in advance
    > > -James

    >
    > Yes, but only if you pass them :)
    >
    > Frankly, I think people should consider the 70-229 in
    > their MCAD. You
    > don't need it for MCAD, but it shows that you know
    > something about SQL
    > Server, which is used by most .NET companies.
    >
    > If you want to be a web developer, I'd replace the 306
    > with the 229.
    > If you want to be a windows developer, I'd replace the 305
    > with the 229.
    >
    > --MCAD end -----------
    >
    >
    >
    > -----ADO.net begin ----------------------------------------
    > -------
    > ADO,NET is covered in quite a few exams, 315, 316, 320,
    > from what
    > I have read in this newsgroup.
    > -----ADO.net end ------------------------------------------
    > -------
    >
    > ----70-306 -----begin -------------------------------------
    > --------
    > ----
    > The book that I read word by word was the Self-paced
    > Microsoft book (500 pages) by Matthew Stoecker. Its
    > sample questions were a little too difficult, but good.
    > Also bought Mike Gunderloy's book by QUE Certification,
    > but didn't have time to use it much. That one is a little
    > too detailed (1000 pages). Its sample questions were a
    > little too easy, but good. Several of the answers to
    > sample questions were wrong though.
    >
    > used getcertified4less.com to use one of their packages
    > to register for the exam; that way it only cost me $35
    > for the Transcender sample questions, which is normally
    > over $110. The exam itself stays as $125. I thought the
    > Transcender questions were totally worth it. Especially
    > the comprehensive explanations to even the wrong choices
    > in questions. The difficulty of its questions were just
    > right. i.e., not too difficult, not too easy.
    >
    > Other books:
    > .Amit Kalani's book
    > .Franceso Balena's book
    > .Mike Gunderloy's book
    > - has lot of examples
    >
    >
    > ---
    >
    > ----70-306 -----end ---------------------------------------
    > ------
    >
    >
    > ----70-310 -----begin -------------------------------------
    > --------
    >
    > "Learning XML, Second Edition" by Erik T. Ray
    > ----70-310 -----end ---------------------------------------
    > ------
    >
    >
    >
    > ----70-320 -----begin -------------------------------------
    > --------
    > Let me tell you, Kalani's book is not nearly as on the
    > mark for this test as it was for 70-315. I felt like I
    > was taking the wrong exam! Acutally, the topics were the
    > same but there were questions about things I had never
    > heard of, and I read Kalani cover to cover twice and did
    > every exercise and step-by-step at least once. Along with
    > that, most areas I read in Kalani lead to long meanderings
    > through MSDN and other sites on the topics and still MS
    > made that exam look pretty foreign.
    > ----70-320 -----end ---------------------------------
    >
    > -------70-315-------being ----------------------------
    > Programming C# (O'Reilly)
    > Microsoft self-paced training kit
    > Online MSDN - This is very helpful. you need to walk thru
    > all the important class members and tips.
    > ---------
    > > Programming C# (O'Reilly)

    >
    > This book by Jesse Liberty is simply awesome for people
    > who want to
    > learn the C# language itself. Unfortunately, many people
    > who study for
    > certification don't understand that there's a lot more to
    > C# than what
    > is covered on the tests. This book is very good at
    > explaining the OOP
    > aspects of C#, and the more advanced aspects of the
    > language.
    >
    > > Microsoft self-paced training kit

    >
    > This is best for people who can easily remember what they
    > read. I
    > personally like the Kalani Training Guides because they
    > give me lots of
    > small step-by-step examples. This helps me retain the info
    > better. I'm
    > a slow learner in some ways.
    >
    > > Online MSDN - This is very helpful. you need to walk

    > thru
    > > all the important class members and tips.

    >
    > This is a great resource, but it's got a huge scope! It's
    > easy to go in
    > looking for one thing, and get sidetracked into learning a
    > lot of other
    > things. I've spent hours in MSDN sometimes. My wife
    > doesn't like me
    > going to the MSDN site in the evening :-(
    >
    > > Test:
    > > Microsoft sample self test

    >
    > These are very challenging, and they're more up-to-date
    > than the actual
    > tests. They're a good way to learn, but may not line up
    > too well with
    > the actual tests.
    >
    > > Transender ( I wont suggest this because it is way over
    > > expensive.)

    >
    > It is expensive, but it's good for people like me who
    > learn slowly.
    > This is a good resource because the questions are relevant,
    > challenging, and the answers are explained - both the
    > right answers and
    > the wrong answers.
    >
    > One thing to notice: their are often a couple right
    > answers, but one is
    > considered "more right", or maybe "more efficient" than
    > the other
    > answers. You need to know the "almost right" answers, and
    > why they
    > aren't the best choice.
    > --------------70-315 end -------
    > --------------------70-305 begin ---------
    > Mikegundeley Training Guide
    >
    > --------------------70-305 end ---------
    >
    > ------ASP.nET ---------begin-------------------------------
    > ------------------------------
    > BrainBench tests are totally different than the real
    > exams.
    > ------ASP.nET ---------end---------------------------------
    > -----------------------------
    >
    >
    >
    > Advertisements:
    >
    >
    > 1. can trade the following:
    >
    > (ebook)-70-315 MCSD MCAD -- Develop & Implement Web Apps
    > with C#.pdf
    > (ebook) O'Reilly - Programming C# 2nd Edition.pdf
    >
    > 2. test vouchers for $10 LESS, NO TAX, FROM AMAZON
    > http://tinyurl.com/3eyjq
    >
    > 3. 07/13/2004 - Visual CertExam Sofware released Visual
    > CertExam Suite
    > 1.0
    >
    > 07/13/2004 - Visual CertExam Sofware released Visual
    > CertExam Suite
    > 1.0, a test engine designed specifically for certification
    > exam
    > preparation.
    >
    > Visual CertExam Suite is a test engine designed
    > specifically for
    > certification exam preparation. It lets you create, edit
    > and take
    > practice exams in an environment very similar to the real
    > exam. Visual
    > CertExam Suite includes two applications: Visual CertExam
    > Designer and
    > Visual CertExam Manager.
    >
    > Visual CertExam Designer allows you to create and edit
    > your own
    > professional practice exams. It is designed, first of all,
    > for authors
    > involved in practice exam development. The application
    > supports most
    > of the question types used in certification exams and
    > allows you to
    > work on an exam using the intuitive user interface.
    > Besides, the
    > question preview feature lets the author see exactly how
    > the question
    > will appear during the examination.
    >
    > Visual CertExam Manager is designed for taking exams
    > created with
    > Visual CertExam Designer. The application interface
    > provides the most
    > realistic simulation of the real certification exam.
    > Flexible
    > examination mode settings (which can be password-protected
    > from
    > unauthorized change) make it possible to use Visual
    > CertExam Manager
    > not only for self-preparation, but also for giving
    > practice exams to
    > students in classrooms.
    >
    > Visual CertExam Suite primary features:
    >
    > - The most realistic certification exam simulation.
    > - You can work with most of the question types used in
    > certification
    > exams (Multiple Choice, Fill in the Blank, Select and
    > Place, Point and
    > Shot, Hot Area, Create a Tree, Build List and Reorder,
    > Drop and
    > Connect).
    > - Ability to create a case study based exams.
    > - The question preview feature allows the author see
    > exactly how a
    > question will appear during an examination.
    > - Supports question text formatting, including bullets,
    > numbering and
    > alignment.
    > - All exam data (including images) is stored in a single
    > file that
    > simplifies copying and distribution of created exams.
    > - Ability to work in a local network using file sharing.
    > - You can set a password for opening an exam file in
    > Visual CertExam
    > Designer to prevent unauthorized copying, editing and
    > printing of the
    > exam data.
    >
    > 4. Training centers in India
    > http://www.microsoft.com/india/traincert/enhance/contact.as
    > p
    >
    > 5. http://www.getcertify4less.com/microsoft.asp
    >
    >
    > Model questions:
    > Q: You want to enable tracing in ASP.Net application. The
    > application recide at the following URL
    > http://srv01/app1/. you want to access the tracing
    > information from your browser in your office. Which one of
    > the follwing action should you take to add tracing the
    > application.
    >
    > A. Add the following to the web.config
    > <trace enabled="true" localonly="false">
    > B. Add the following to the web.config
    > <trace enabled="true" localonly="false"
    > pageOutput="true">
    > C. Add the following to the web.config
    > <trace enabled="true" localonly="false"
    > pageOutput="false">
    > D. Add the following to the applications Logon.aspx file.
    > <%@Pgae Trace="True" %>
    >
    > The correct answer suggested by the publisher is 'C'. But,
    > I think it should be 'B'. In one way they both are true.
    > Either you view it by browsing trace.axd or on the same
    > page you looking at you are using a browser to view it.
    > But, since they are not mentioning anything about
    > trace.axd (Or a 3rd file name at all), I think what they
    > meant it to view at the bottom of the page you are
    > currently browsing for which you have to set
    > the "pageOutput" to "true", hence answer B. Any other
    > suggessions?.
     
    Stranger, Jul 25, 2004
    #3
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