Story of DDoS survival

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Dave Taylor, May 12, 2005.

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    Dave Taylor, May 12, 2005
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  2. It is awfully long

    "Dave Taylor" <> wrote in message
    news:Xns9654CB91535E0daveytaynospamplshot@203.97.37.6...
    > SANS sent me this link in a newsletter:
    > http://www.csoonline.com/read/050105/extortion.html?action=print
    >
    > I found it an interesting read.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Ciao, Dave


    The story is about how a lot of hardware and software was installed to
    absorb DDoS attacks, and filter out the legitimate traffic for the intended
    recipients. A some stage, chat sites were used to contact the DDoS
    perpetrators, and over time, to make them reveal their identity, which made
    prosecution possible. It is pointed out that, in the short term, resisting
    blackmail is not cost effective.

    So why did that take enough words to make half an hour's reading?

    Henry
     
    Henry Falkner, May 14, 2005
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  3. Re: It is awfully long

    Henry Falkner wrote:
    >> SANS sent me this link in a newsletter:
    >> http://www.csoonline.com/read/050105/extortion.html?action=print
    >> I found it an interesting read.


    > So why did that take enough words to make half an hour's reading?


    heh, yeah, I gave up after about 10 mins, it wasn't *that* interesting
     
    Dave - Dave.net.nz, May 15, 2005
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    Re: It is awfully long

    On Mon, 16 May 2005 08:12:07 +1200, Dave - Dave.net.nz wrote:

    > Henry Falkner wrote:
    >>> SANS sent me this link in a newsletter:
    >>> http://www.csoonline.com/read/050105/extortion.html?action=print
    >>> I found it an interesting read.

    >
    >> So why did that take enough words to make half an hour's reading?

    >
    > heh, yeah, I gave up after about 10 mins, it wasn't *that* interesting


    whats not interesting..
    online casino receives a threat to be DDoS'ed
    online casino hires a whiz kid to save the day
    whiz kid puts on his magic cape and builds a bigger pipe
    online casino (and the world) are saved
    whiz kid gets the girl
    oohh ahhh magilicious
    --
    Hardware, n.: The parts of a computer system that can be kicked

    The best way to get the right answer on usenet is to post the wrong one.
     
    Shane, May 15, 2005
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  5. Re: It is awfully long

    Shane wrote:
    >>>So why did that take enough words to make half an hour's reading?


    >>heh, yeah, I gave up after about 10 mins, it wasn't *that* interesting


    > whats not interesting..
    > online casino receives a threat to be DDoS'ed
    > online casino hires a whiz kid to save the day
    > whiz kid puts on his magic cape and builds a bigger pipe


    thats where I stopped reading...
    thats not a fix, merely a work-around for the current attempt, if the
    DDOS'ers got a bigger pipe, the casino would be in the same position.

    > online casino (and the world) are saved
    > whiz kid gets the girl
    > oohh ahhh magilicious
     
    Dave - Dave.net.nz, May 15, 2005
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    Re: It is awfully long

    On Mon, 16 May 2005 09:58:56 +1200, Dave - Dave.net.nz wrote:

    > Shane wrote:
    >>>>So why did that take enough words to make half an hour's reading?

    >
    >>>heh, yeah, I gave up after about 10 mins, it wasn't *that* interesting

    >
    >> whats not interesting..
    >> online casino receives a threat to be DDoS'ed
    >> online casino hires a whiz kid to save the day
    >> whiz kid puts on his magic cape and builds a bigger pipe

    >
    > thats where I stopped reading...
    > thats not a fix, merely a work-around for the current attempt, if the
    > DDOS'ers got a bigger pipe, the casino would be in the same position.
    >


    yeah, that and I bet the bill was astronomical
    mind you, it does raise an interesting point..
    wtf are admins supposed to do with DDoS attacks/threats
    it seems from the article everyone coughs up (which means some smart arse
    will make a lot of money just by saying he can do it :)
    if a _really_ big pipe is built to handle these attacks from the botnets
    (apparently there is a competition to see who can build the biggest
    network) that will still leave a routing problem
    maybe its an ad for a big pipe thats available if you get threatened
    (available at 75% of the extortion rate ;-)

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    The best way to get the right answer on usenet is to post the wrong one.
     
    Shane, May 15, 2005
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