SpyBot1.2: no updates

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Steve Robertson, May 15, 2004.

  1. No updates for a long time.
    Is something up (end of this version??)
    Steve Robertson, May 15, 2004
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  2. On Sat, 15 May 2004 05:21:34 GMT, (Steve Robertson)
    wrote:

    >No updates for a long time.
    >Is something up (end of this version??)


    I'm running 1.3 Final - think it came from majorgeek site.

    Bb
    Lukagain Cos Thistlebounce, May 15, 2004
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  3. Steve Robertson

    Enkidu Guest

    On Sat, 15 May 2004 05:21:34 GMT, (Steve Robertson)
    wrote:

    >No updates for a long time.
    >Is something up (end of this version??)


    4 March 2004??

    Cheers,

    Cliff
    Enkidu, May 15, 2004
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  4. Steve Robertson

    Weez Guest

    "Steve Robertson" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > No updates for a long time.
    > Is something up (end of this version??)


    I noticed that ad-aware picked up a lot of things that were missed by spybot
    .... thought it was strange that no updates in a while. ..J
    Weez, May 15, 2004
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  5. Steve Robertson

    Barney Guest

    Barney, May 15, 2004
    #5
  6. Steve Robertson

    Barney Guest

    "Weez" <> wrote in message news:uZipc.2141$...
    >
    > "Steve Robertson" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > No updates for a long time.
    > > Is something up (end of this version??)

    >
    > I noticed that ad-aware picked up a lot of things that were missed by spybot
    > ... thought it was strange that no updates in a while. ..J
    >
    >


    Spybot 1.3
    http://majorgeeks.com/download2471.html
    Barney, May 15, 2004
    #6
  7. Steve Robertson

    MarkH Guest

    "Weez" <> wrote in
    news:uZipc.2141$:

    >
    > "Steve Robertson" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> No updates for a long time.
    >> Is something up (end of this version??)

    >
    > I noticed that ad-aware picked up a lot of things that were missed by
    > spybot ... thought it was strange that no updates in a while. ..J


    Yes, but spybot picks up a lot of things that ad-aware misses. Always run
    both.



    --
    Mark Heyes (New Zealand)
    See my pics at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~markh/
    "There are 10 types of people, those that
    understand binary and those that don't"
    MarkH, May 16, 2004
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  8. Steve Robertson

    Kamatekoe Guest

    "MarkH" <> wrote in message
    news:c8697n$jq7$...
    > "Weez" <> wrote in
    > news:uZipc.2141$:
    >
    > >
    > > "Steve Robertson" <> wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > >> No updates for a long time.
    > >> Is something up (end of this version??)

    > >
    > > I noticed that ad-aware picked up a lot of things that were missed by
    > > spybot ... thought it was strange that no updates in a while. ..J

    >
    > Yes, but spybot picks up a lot of things that ad-aware misses. Always run
    > both.
    >

    Spybot 1.3 Final
    Download from - http://majorgeeks.com/download2471.html
    Kamatekoe, May 16, 2004
    #8
  9. Steve Robertson

    Wyn Guest

    Barney wrote:
    > "Steve Robertson" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> No updates for a long time.
    >> Is something up (end of this version??)

    >
    > Spybot 1.3
    > http://majorgeeks.com/download2471.html


    Yup, it works well. The d/load must contain a whole host of new
    profiles. I had checked with 1.2 last week and it found nothing but 1.3
    picked up another six.

    IIRC with 1.2 there were about 160 profiles when I hit the Immunize
    button, With 1.3 there were over 1000. I wouldn't guarantee these
    figures as they flashed by so fast.

    Most likely why updates have not been available lately.

    Wyn
    Wyn, May 17, 2004
    #9
  10. Steve Robertson

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Wyn wrote:
    > Barney wrote:
    >> "Steve Robertson" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>> No updates for a long time.
    >>> Is something up (end of this version??)

    >>
    >> Spybot 1.3
    >> http://majorgeeks.com/download2471.html

    >
    > Yup, it works well. The d/load must contain a whole host of new
    > profiles. I had checked with 1.2 last week and it found nothing but
    > 1.3 picked up another six.
    >
    > IIRC with 1.2 there were about 160 profiles when I hit the Immunize
    > button, With 1.3 there were over 1000. I wouldn't guarantee these
    > figures as they flashed by so fast.
    >
    > Most likely why updates have not been available lately.


    I like the new "Tea Timer" function. It monitors the registry for changes
    and makes a back-up when it's installed. Also the "SD Helper" resident IE
    bad download blocker has popped up a couple of times telling me it's blocked
    stuff.

    Damn good program.
    --
    ~misfit~
    ~misfit~, May 17, 2004
    #10
  11. Steve Robertson

    Wyn Guest

    ~misfit~ wrote:
    > Wyn wrote:
    >> Barney wrote:
    >>> "Steve Robertson" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:...
    >>>> No updates for a long time.
    >>>> Is something up (end of this version??)
    >>>
    >>> Spybot 1.3
    >>> http://majorgeeks.com/download2471.html

    >>
    >> Yup, it works well. The d/load must contain a whole host of new
    >> profiles. I had checked with 1.2 last week and it found nothing but
    >> 1.3 picked up another six.
    >>
    >> IIRC with 1.2 there were about 160 profiles when I hit the Immunize
    >> button, With 1.3 there were over 1000. I wouldn't guarantee these
    >> figures as they flashed by so fast.
    >>
    >> Most likely why updates have not been available lately.

    >
    > I like the new "Tea Timer" function. It monitors the registry for
    > changes and makes a back-up when it's installed. Also the "SD Helper"
    > resident IE bad download blocker has popped up a couple of times
    > telling me it's blocked stuff.


    What's the difference between that and the Immunize function?

    >
    > Damn good program.


    I agree. It's worth paying for.

    Wyn
    Wyn, May 17, 2004
    #11
  12. Steve Robertson

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Wyn wrote:
    > ~misfit~ wrote:
    >> Wyn wrote:
    >>> Barney wrote:
    >>>> "Steve Robertson" <> wrote in message
    >>>> news:...
    >>>>> No updates for a long time.
    >>>>> Is something up (end of this version??)
    >>>>
    >>>> Spybot 1.3
    >>>> http://majorgeeks.com/download2471.html
    >>>
    >>> Yup, it works well. The d/load must contain a whole host of new
    >>> profiles. I had checked with 1.2 last week and it found nothing but
    >>> 1.3 picked up another six.
    >>>
    >>> IIRC with 1.2 there were about 160 profiles when I hit the Immunize
    >>> button, With 1.3 there were over 1000. I wouldn't guarantee these
    >>> figures as they flashed by so fast.
    >>>
    >>> Most likely why updates have not been available lately.

    >>
    >> I like the new "Tea Timer" function. It monitors the registry for
    >> changes and makes a back-up when it's installed. Also the "SD Helper"
    >> resident IE bad download blocker has popped up a couple of times
    >> telling me it's blocked stuff.

    >
    > What's the difference between that and the Immunize function?


    I didn't read it all. However, it seems to monitor registy changes as
    opposed to just comparing thigs to a database of 'bad' programs. It actually
    popped up when I installed something the other day and asked if I wanted to
    allow the registry change. Almost like a seperate program within a program.
    I like it.

    >> Damn good program.

    >
    > I agree. It's worth paying for.


    I won't belabour my financial situation again but I agree. If I was in a
    position to, I would *definitely* make a contribution, it's great software.
    I wouldn't run without it.
    --
    ~misfit~
    ~misfit~, May 17, 2004
    #12
  13. Steve Robertson

    MarkH Guest

    "~misfit~" <> wrote in
    news:3Caqc.6529$:

    >>> Damn good program.

    >>
    >> I agree. It's worth paying for.

    >
    > I won't belabour my financial situation again but I agree. If I was in
    > a position to, I would *definitely* make a contribution, it's great
    > software. I wouldn't run without it.


    Spybot S&D 1.3 is very good, but I still find that there are things it
    misses that Ad-Aware catches, I always run both. These two freeware
    programs between them are so good, much better than many expensive
    programs.

    Of course Spybot S&D catches things that Ad-Aware misses as well, neither
    are good enough on there own IMO.


    --
    Mark Heyes (New Zealand)
    See my pics at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~markh/
    "There are 10 types of people, those that
    understand binary and those that don't"
    MarkH, May 18, 2004
    #13
  14. Steve Robertson

    ~misfit~ Guest

    MarkH wrote:
    > "~misfit~" <> wrote in
    > news:3Caqc.6529$:
    >
    >>>> Damn good program.
    >>>
    >>> I agree. It's worth paying for.

    >>
    >> I won't belabour my financial situation again but I agree. If I was
    >> in a position to, I would *definitely* make a contribution, it's
    >> great software. I wouldn't run without it.

    >
    > Spybot S&D 1.3 is very good, but I still find that there are things it
    > misses that Ad-Aware catches, I always run both. These two freeware
    > programs between them are so good, much better than many expensive
    > programs.
    >
    > Of course Spybot S&D catches things that Ad-Aware misses as well,
    > neither are good enough on there own IMO.


    Yep, I use AdAware 6, (Build 321) as well. I agree they make an excellent
    team. I'm just really impressed with the improvements in Spybot 1.3 over
    1.2. Love the improved immunise and the resident thingy (Tea Timer, now why
    would they call it that?).
    --
    ~misfit~
    ~misfit~, May 18, 2004
    #14
  15. Steve Robertson

    Wyn Guest

    ~misfit~ wrote:
    > Wyn wrote:
    >> What's the difference between that and the Immunize function?

    >
    > I didn't read it all. However, it seems to monitor registy changes as
    > opposed to just comparing thigs to a database of 'bad' programs. It
    > actually popped up when I installed something the other day and asked
    > if I wanted to allow the registry change. Almost like a seperate
    > program within a program. I like it.


    Sounds very worthwhile.

    >>> Damn good program.

    >>
    >> I agree. It's worth paying for.

    >
    > I won't belabour my financial situation again but I agree. If I was
    > in a position to, I would *definitely* make a contribution, it's
    > great software. I wouldn't run without it.


    I have done that, for two reasons:

    1. I was using Spybot so much that my conscience wouldn't allow me not
    to.

    2. I thought that it would be good to encourage producers of quality
    pgms that are free.

    Wyn
    Wyn, May 18, 2004
    #15
  16. Steve Robertson

    Max Burke Guest

    >> ~misfit~ wrote:
    >> I didn't read it all. However, it seems to monitor registy changes as
    >> opposed to just comparing thigs to a database of 'bad' programs. It
    >> actually popped up when I installed something the other day and asked
    >> if I wanted to allow the registry change. Almost like a seperate
    >> program within a program. I like it.


    It (tea timer) doesn't monitor the whole registry, just what is 'at risk'
    from spy ware.....
    I run Greyware registry rearguard
    http://www.greyware.com/software/grr/setup.asp and it reports on registry
    changes that tea timer doesn't...

    --
    mlvburke@#%&*.net.nz
    Replace the obvious with paradise to email me.
    See Found Images at:
    http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~mlvburke/
    Max Burke, May 18, 2004
    #16
  17. Steve Robertson

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Max Burke wrote:

    Hi Max,

    >>> ~misfit~ wrote:
    >>> I didn't read it all. However, it seems to monitor registy changes
    >>> as opposed to just comparing thigs to a database of 'bad' programs.
    >>> It actually popped up when I installed something the other day and
    >>> asked if I wanted to allow the registry change. Almost like a
    >>> seperate program within a program. I like it.

    >
    > It (tea timer) doesn't monitor the whole registry, just what is 'at
    > risk' from spy ware.....


    Whence come this info? I did a reinstall of a machine last night and put
    Spybot 1.3 and Tea Timer on as one of the first proggies. It wanted manual
    confirmation of registry writes, sometimes multiple ones, for every proggy I
    installed after that. Tea Timer seemed to want a lot of confirmations,
    sometimes six or more for a proggy. I use Regcleaner as well and, although I
    didn't make a rigorous study of it, I couldn't see any registry entries
    there that Tea Timer didn't ask about.

    > I run Greyware registry rearguard
    > http://www.greyware.com/software/grr/setup.asp and it reports on
    > registry changes that tea timer doesn't...


    So in the above scenario the Greyware product would ask more often? From
    experience? SB 1.3/Tea Timer has only been out a wee while.

    Cheers,
    --
    ~misfit~
    ~misfit~, May 19, 2004
    #17
  18. Steve Robertson

    ~misfit~ Guest

    ~misfit~ wrote:
    > Max Burke wrote:
    >
    > Hi Max,
    >
    >>>> ~misfit~ wrote:
    >>>> I didn't read it all. However, it seems to monitor registy changes
    >>>> as opposed to just comparing thigs to a database of 'bad' programs.
    >>>> It actually popped up when I installed something the other day and
    >>>> asked if I wanted to allow the registry change. Almost like a
    >>>> seperate program within a program. I like it.

    >>
    >> It (tea timer) doesn't monitor the whole registry, just what is 'at
    >> risk' from spy ware.....

    >
    > Whence come this info? I did a reinstall of a machine last night and
    > put Spybot 1.3 and Tea Timer on as one of the first proggies. It
    > wanted manual confirmation of registry writes, sometimes multiple
    > ones, for every proggy I installed after that. Tea Timer seemed to
    > want a lot of confirmations, sometimes six or more for a proggy. I
    > use Regcleaner as well and, although I didn't make a rigorous study
    > of it, I couldn't see any registry entries there that Tea Timer
    > didn't ask about.
    >
    >> I run Greyware registry rearguard
    >> http://www.greyware.com/software/grr/setup.asp and it reports on
    >> registry changes that tea timer doesn't...

    >
    > So in the above scenario the Greyware product would ask more often?
    > From experience? SB 1.3/Tea Timer has only been out a wee while.


    Since I wrote this I've updated Roxio Easy CD Creator 5 to the latest
    version. Tea Timer asked me for confirmation of a total of 18 registry
    changes.
    --
    ~misfit~
    ~misfit~, May 19, 2004
    #18
  19. Steve Robertson

    Max Burke Guest

    > ~misfit~ scribbled:

    >> Max Burke wrote:




    >> ~misfit~ wrote:
    >> I didn't read it all. However, it seems to monitor registy changes
    >> as opposed to just comparing thigs to a database of 'bad' programs.
    >> It actually popped up when I installed something the other day and
    >> asked if I wanted to allow the registry change. Almost like a
    >> seperate program within a program. I like it.


    >> It (tea timer) doesn't monitor the whole registry, just what is 'at
    >> risk' from spy ware.....


    > Whence come this info? I did a reinstall of a machine last night and
    > put Spybot 1.3 and Tea Timer on as one of the first proggies. It
    > wanted manual confirmation of registry writes, sometimes multiple
    > ones, for every proggy I installed after that. Tea Timer seemed to
    > want a lot of confirmations, sometimes six or more for a proggy. I
    > use Regcleaner as well and, although I didn't make a rigorous study
    > of it, I couldn't see any registry entries there that Tea Timer
    > didn't ask about.


    Desription of Tea timer from the Spybot forum....

    <quote>
    TT (AKA: TeaTimer) as designed uses very little CPU, and the RAM/PageFile
    useage is also small. In the past I have seen generally 5-7mb or ram, 3-4mb
    pagefile acitivly being used. It does increase from time to time, but as
    soon as it gets done with it, it will release the ram back to OS so it can
    be used again by other programs.

    I dont know what the OFFICIAL release will say about TT, but it actively
    looks at each proccess when it runs, to see what it is. For example. If you
    open Task manger, than open an IE page of start a program, it will be listed
    as a Process which is now running. At the time it starts TT will look at it
    to see if its a KNOWN bad process. If it doesnt know what it is, it will
    offer you the chance to allow this process to run or to stop it from
    running. You can also decide if TT will remember this setting for future
    use. Much like ZoneAlarm does, it will be TRAINED by you as to what you want
    to let run.

    A trojan or ?? what ever, is nothing more than a small program, that need to
    be run for it to work. It will normally set itself to run at boot up, so its
    nothing more than ANOTHER program thats running at boot. TT will evaluate
    these things and determine if its a threat.

    On a side note: TT is not set to run by default with the 1.3Final, as its
    not ready to be yet. It is still a work in progress with ALOT of issues
    having been fixxed already, but still some go on. It is being worked on and
    PMK should have her running smoothly soon. Till than, I am not running it
    for any reason other than to help with Testing.

    The concept is awesome, the software works, it just has some bugs that he is
    fixxing as we speak.

    Being a part of the BETA testing has shown me that his is diligent in his
    efforst, just that things dont always work out as fast as you want them too.
    But he is knocking the problems out one at a time.
    <end quote>


    >> I run Greyware registry rearguard
    >> http://www.greyware.com/software/grr/setup.asp and it reports on
    >> registry changes that tea timer doesn't...


    > So in the above scenario the Greyware product would ask more often?
    > From experience? SB 1.3/Tea Timer has only been out a wee while.


    IME it does. I have been fixing a few minor problems on my system (due to
    install too much betaware) and GRR has popped up more often than Tea timer
    when there have been registry changes....
    But then Tea timer has warned of a one or two changes that GRR didn't warn
    me about....

    I dont know what Tea timer monitors (the Spybot website has no real info
    about it yet) but I like the way it can backup the registry.... GRR doesn't
    do that, it just blocks changes until you allow them, but does provide a
    more detailed explanation of what is being changed.

    Tea timer does monitor/block the 'bad processors' that Spybot blacklists; It
    shows it's monitoring 1161 blacklisted Spybot processes in the popup on the
    taskbar icon

    --
    mlvburke@#%&*.net.nz
    Replace the obvious with paradise to email me.
    See Found Images at:
    http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~mlvburke/
    Max Burke, May 19, 2004
    #19
  20. In article <0dEqc.2983$>, mlvburke@%$%# says...
    > > ~misfit~ scribbled:

    >
    > >> Max Burke wrote:

    >
    >
    >
    > >> ~misfit~ wrote:
    > >> I didn't read it all. However, it seems to monitor registy changes
    > >> as opposed to just comparing thigs to a database of 'bad' programs.
    > >> It actually popped up when I installed something the other day and
    > >> asked if I wanted to allow the registry change. Almost like a
    > >> seperate program within a program. I like it.

    >
    > >> It (tea timer) doesn't monitor the whole registry, just what is 'at
    > >> risk' from spy ware.....

    >
    > > Whence come this info? I did a reinstall of a machine last night and
    > > put Spybot 1.3 and Tea Timer on as one of the first proggies. It
    > > wanted manual confirmation of registry writes, sometimes multiple
    > > ones, for every proggy I installed after that. Tea Timer seemed to
    > > want a lot of confirmations, sometimes six or more for a proggy. I
    > > use Regcleaner as well and, although I didn't make a rigorous study
    > > of it, I couldn't see any registry entries there that Tea Timer
    > > didn't ask about.

    >
    > Desription of Tea timer from the Spybot forum....
    >
    > <quote>
    > TT (AKA: TeaTimer) as designed uses very little CPU, and the RAM/PageFile
    > useage is also small. In the past I have seen generally 5-7mb or ram, 3-4mb
    > pagefile acitivly being used. It does increase from time to time, but as
    > soon as it gets done with it, it will release the ram back to OS so it can
    > be used again by other programs.
    >
    > I dont know what the OFFICIAL release will say about TT, but it actively
    > looks at each proccess when it runs, to see what it is. For example. If you
    > open Task manger, than open an IE page of start a program, it will be listed
    > as a Process which is now running. At the time it starts TT will look at it
    > to see if its a KNOWN bad process. If it doesnt know what it is, it will
    > offer you the chance to allow this process to run or to stop it from
    > running. You can also decide if TT will remember this setting for future
    > use. Much like ZoneAlarm does, it will be TRAINED by you as to what you want
    > to let run.
    >
    > A trojan or ?? what ever, is nothing more than a small program, that need to
    > be run for it to work. It will normally set itself to run at boot up, so its
    > nothing more than ANOTHER program thats running at boot. TT will evaluate
    > these things and determine if its a threat.


    All they really need to watch in the registry is the Run keys and IE and
    Windows.ini load/run
    Patrick Dunford, May 19, 2004
    #20
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