spam increasing? <rant></rant>

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by T.N.O., Nov 19, 2003.

  1. T.N.O.

    T.N.O. Guest

    <rant>
    I seem to be getting about 5 spams to every real mail at the moment.
    Are they pushing for Xmas?
    Do people get more, or think they should get more Sex at Xmas; Or do
    they just perform worse?

    Not only that, but they seem to be smarter now too, maybe running their
    emails through spam filters themselves first, so that it gets through
    them. Until last week, I had had 0(zero) false negatives, and 5(five)
    false positives(they were particuly spammy looking emails, added sender
    to whitelist and sorted that out), but this week I have had 23 false
    negatives so far... 20 fucking 3.

    </rant>
     
    T.N.O., Nov 19, 2003
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  2. T.N.O.

    whoisthis Guest

    In article <3fbb37de$>,
    "T.N.O." <> wrote:

    > <rant>
    > I seem to be getting about 5 spams to every real mail at the moment.
    > Are they pushing for Xmas?
    > Do people get more, or think they should get more Sex at Xmas; Or do
    > they just perform worse?
    >
    > Not only that, but they seem to be smarter now too, maybe running their
    > emails through spam filters themselves first, so that it gets through
    > them. Until last week, I had had 0(zero) false negatives, and 5(five)
    > false positives(they were particuly spammy looking emails, added sender
    > to whitelist and sorted that out), but this week I have had 23 false
    > negatives so far... 20 fucking 3.
    >
    > </rant>


    I have gone entirely to a white list. It is 100% effective at stopping
    spam. I also have a hotmail address where anyone can contact me and from
    there I let people know my REAL email address and add their address to
    my whitelist.
     
    whoisthis, Nov 19, 2003
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  3. T.N.O.

    Howard Guest

    Xtra's antispam seems to be working well.

    From a sample of one day(80spams) only one false negative and no false
    positive. Brightmail claim a false positive of "1 in amillion" so here's
    hoping...
     
    Howard, Nov 19, 2003
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    steve Guest

    T.N.O. allegedly said:

    > <rant>
    > I seem to be getting about 5 spams to every real mail at the moment.
    > Are they pushing for Xmas?


    Seems like it.....the number of REJECTs in my mail server's 'maillog' is
    double the usual. Thank goodness I don't see the stuff.

    > Not only that, but they seem to be smarter now too, maybe running their
    > emails through spam filters themselves first, so that it gets through
    > them. Until last week, I had had 0(zero) false negatives, and 5(five)
    > false positives(they were particuly spammy looking emails, added sender
    > to whitelist and sorted that out), but this week I have had 23 false
    > negatives so far... 20 fucking 3.


    I still just block IPs and mail domains and I'm seeing just a few get
    through each day. No more than 4 on any day for the past week (judging by
    the list of not-yet-undeleted stuff in my "Ttrash" folder. Evolution 1.2.2
    won't let me send ths stuff directly to Trash..so it goes to
    "Ttrash"....and then I delete it.

    I only update the spam reject list once / week these days. If i did it more
    often and right away, I might be able to reduce the daily total to 1 or
    two....but I tend not to add a domain if i have the feeling i won't see it
    again. There is little point and it just means more processing. The
    marginal advantage isn't there. But if i see second one, then I do block
    it.

    --
    Best Regards,
    Steve Withers
    defenestrate: The act of throwing Windows out the window and replacing it on
    your PC with some other operating system.
     
    steve, Nov 19, 2003
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    Craig Sutton Guest

    "Howard" <> wrote in message
    news:VpPub.3246$...
    > Xtra's antispam seems to be working well.
    >
    > From a sample of one day(80spams) only one false negative and no false
    > positive. Brightmail claim a false positive of "1 in amillion" so here's
    > hoping...
    >

    On ihugs, on level 2 of their spam blocker.

    140 blocked yesterday, and just the 26 got through.
     
    Craig Sutton, Nov 20, 2003
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    madknoxie Guest

    In article <>,
    whoisthis <> wrote:

    > I have gone entirely to a white list. It is 100% effective at stopping
    > spam. I also have a hotmail address where anyone can contact me and from
    > there I let people know my REAL email address and add their address to
    > my whitelist.


    Do you find it quite labour intensive to keep/use a white list?

    --
    madknoxie
    $35 .nz domain names: http://www.ivision.co.nz/
     
    madknoxie, Nov 20, 2003
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  7. T.N.O.

    whoisthis Guest

    In article <>,
    madknoxie <> wrote:

    > In article <>,
    > whoisthis <> wrote:
    >
    > > I have gone entirely to a white list. It is 100% effective at stopping
    > > spam. I also have a hotmail address where anyone can contact me and from
    > > there I let people know my REAL email address and add their address to
    > > my whitelist.

    >
    > Do you find it quite labour intensive to keep/use a white list?


    No.
    Everyone is simply given the hotmail address first, and if they checkout
    then it is a simple email to them to give them my real email address.
    Hotmail seems to be OK for spam deletion so I do not have much to
    manually delete/block. I only need to add a person every 3-4 weeks as
    for most people it is simply a first/single contact and they do not need
    any other address than the hotmail one. If the spam gets too high I will
    just abandon that hotmail address and set up a new one.
     
    whoisthis, Nov 20, 2003
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  8. T.N.O.

    madknoxie Guest

    T.N.O. wrote:
    > <rant>
    > I seem to be getting about 5 spams to every real mail at the moment.
    > Are they pushing for Xmas?
    > Do people get more, or think they should get more Sex at Xmas; Or do
    > they just perform worse?
    >
    > Not only that, but they seem to be smarter now too, maybe running their
    > emails through spam filters themselves first, so that it gets through
    > them. Until last week, I had had 0(zero) false negatives, and 5(five)
    > false positives(they were particuly spammy looking emails, added sender
    > to whitelist and sorted that out), but this week I have had 23 false
    > negatives so far... 20 fucking 3.
    >
    > </rant>


    Well, I was lucky enough last night to get just under 15,000 spams in my
    mailbox. Yay...

    --
    madknoxie
    $35 .nz domain names: http://www.ivision.co.nz/
     
    madknoxie, Nov 20, 2003
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    madknoxie Guest

    madknoxie wrote:

    > Well, I was lucky enough last night to get just under 15,000 spams in my
    > mailbox. Yay...


    Just received another 2000 to bring the total to just under 17,000 spams.


    --
    madknoxie
    $35 .nz domain names: http://www.ivision.co.nz/
     
    madknoxie, Nov 21, 2003
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    T.N.O. Guest

    madknoxie wrote:
    > Well, I was lucky enough last night to get just under 15,000 spams in my
    > mailbox. Yay...


    jo-job?
     
    T.N.O., Nov 21, 2003
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