Spam and OE 5.5

Discussion in 'Computer Information' started by Edge, Oct 29, 2003.

  1. Edge

    Edge Guest

    Is there a way to prevent HTML email from loading and preventing the spamer
    from receiving a confirmation from my email? Will increasing the length of
    the time-out Marked as Read in the Preview pane of any help? I'm running OE
    5.5 and IE 5.5 and there are no security setting to block HTML from loading.
    Is my best option to upgrade to OE 6?

    TIA
     
    Edge, Oct 29, 2003
    #1
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  2. Edge

    Thor Guest

    Upgrade to OE6 SP1 (part of IE6 Sp1) and go into the options, and set to
    read all your mail in plain text only. The latest version of OE (Sp1) is the
    only OE6 that offers this option.


    ...
    "Edge" <> wrote in message
    news:UkRnb.19599$...
    > Is there a way to prevent HTML email from loading and preventing the

    spamer
    > from receiving a confirmation from my email? Will increasing the length

    of
    > the time-out Marked as Read in the Preview pane of any help? I'm running

    OE
    > 5.5 and IE 5.5 and there are no security setting to block HTML from

    loading.
    > Is my best option to upgrade to OE 6?
    >
    > TIA
    >
    >
     
    Thor, Oct 29, 2003
    #2
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  3. Edge

    Chet Guest

    That won't stop HTML email from loading, it will just make HTML display as
    text only.

    I think he has the idea that he can eliminate a lot of commercial email by
    blocking HTML from loading. That would be true if it could be done.
    Unfortunately, many individuals send regular mail formatted as HTML and
    would also be blocked.
    "Thor" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Upgrade to OE6 SP1 (part of IE6 Sp1) and go into the options, and set to
    > read all your mail in plain text only. The latest version of OE (Sp1) is

    the
    > only OE6 that offers this option.
    >
    >
    > ..
    > "Edge" <> wrote in message
    > news:UkRnb.19599$...
    > > Is there a way to prevent HTML email from loading and preventing the

    > spamer
    > > from receiving a confirmation from my email? Will increasing the length

    > of
    > > the time-out Marked as Read in the Preview pane of any help? I'm

    running
    > OE
    > > 5.5 and IE 5.5 and there are no security setting to block HTML from

    > loading.
    > > Is my best option to upgrade to OE 6?
    > >
    > > TIA
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    Chet, Oct 29, 2003
    #3
  4. Maybe I should let Thor answer as I'm not familiar with OE, but
    generally when you load HTML as text-only it prevents the HTML code from
    being processed. If that is the case, and if his idea is correct then
    setting OE to text-only would accomplish his goal.

    Note that I don't think his idea is correct, but it could be. I suspect
    that his idea is based on the assumption that spammers are validating
    his email address via the HTML message and that removing that validation
    will cause his email address to be removed from the spammers list. I
    don't believe that either is generally the case, but it's possible.

    And you're basically correct in that displaying HTML messages as text
    will mess up the emails that many individuals send. It won't block them,
    but the HTML code will be mixed in with the actual message which could
    make it hard to read.



    Chet wrote:
    > That won't stop HTML email from loading, it will just make HTML display as
    > text only.
    >
    > I think he has the idea that he can eliminate a lot of commercial email by
    > blocking HTML from loading. That would be true if it could be done.
    > Unfortunately, many individuals send regular mail formatted as HTML and
    > would also be blocked.
    > "Thor" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >
    >>Upgrade to OE6 SP1 (part of IE6 Sp1) and go into the options, and set to
    >>read all your mail in plain text only. The latest version of OE (Sp1) is

    >
    > the
    >
    >>only OE6 that offers this option.
    >>
    >>
    >>..
    >>"Edge" <> wrote in message
    >>news:UkRnb.19599$...
    >>
    >>>Is there a way to prevent HTML email from loading and preventing the

    >>
    >>spamer
    >>
    >>>from receiving a confirmation from my email? Will increasing the length

    >>
    >>of
    >>
    >>>the time-out Marked as Read in the Preview pane of any help? I'm

    >
    > running
    >
    >>OE
    >>
    >>>5.5 and IE 5.5 and there are no security setting to block HTML from

    >>
    >>loading.
    >>
    >>>Is my best option to upgrade to OE 6?
    >>>
    >>>TIA
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >
     
    Calvin Crumrine, Oct 29, 2003
    #4
  5. Edge

    Jeremy Guest

    Mailwasher

    JJ

    Edge wrote:
    >
    > Is there a way to prevent HTML email from loading and preventing the spamer
    > from receiving a confirmation from my email? Will increasing the length of
    > the time-out Marked as Read in the Preview pane of any help? I'm running OE
    > 5.5 and IE 5.5 and there are no security setting to block HTML from loading.
    > Is my best option to upgrade to OE 6?
    >
    > TIA
     
    Jeremy, Oct 29, 2003
    #5
  6. Edge

    Thor Guest

    No, it does stop the HTML from loading. I use it, and I know that for a fact
    because I have recieved some HTML emails that invoke browser windows, load
    web content, etc., and they don't do a damn thing when it's in plain text
    mode. It strips the HTML, and sets it as an attached file instead. If you
    open the attachment, then it will load the page, and all it's potential
    scripts, etc.


    ...
    "Chet" <> wrote in message
    news:jOTnb.57873$HS4.300284@attbi_s01...
    > That won't stop HTML email from loading, it will just make HTML display as
    > text only.
    >
    > I think he has the idea that he can eliminate a lot of commercial email by
    > blocking HTML from loading. That would be true if it could be done.
    > Unfortunately, many individuals send regular mail formatted as HTML and
    > would also be blocked.
    > "Thor" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Upgrade to OE6 SP1 (part of IE6 Sp1) and go into the options, and set to
    > > read all your mail in plain text only. The latest version of OE (Sp1) is

    > the
    > > only OE6 that offers this option.
    > >
    > >
    > > ..
    > > "Edge" <> wrote in message
    > > news:UkRnb.19599$...
    > > > Is there a way to prevent HTML email from loading and preventing the

    > > spamer
    > > > from receiving a confirmation from my email? Will increasing the

    length
    > > of
    > > > the time-out Marked as Read in the Preview pane of any help? I'm

    > running
    > > OE
    > > > 5.5 and IE 5.5 and there are no security setting to block HTML from

    > > loading.
    > > > Is my best option to upgrade to OE 6?
    > > >
    > > > TIA
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    Thor, Oct 30, 2003
    #6
  7. Edge

    Thor Guest

    "Calvin Crumrine" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Maybe I should let Thor answer as I'm not familiar with OE, but
    > generally when you load HTML as text-only it prevents the HTML code from
    > being processed. If that is the case, and if his idea is correct then
    > setting OE to text-only would accomplish his goal.
    >
    > Note that I don't think his idea is correct, but it could be. I suspect
    > that his idea is based on the assumption that spammers are validating
    > his email address via the HTML message and that removing that validation
    > will cause his email address to be removed from the spammers list. I
    > don't believe that either is generally the case, but it's possible.
    >
    > And you're basically correct in that displaying HTML messages as text
    > will mess up the emails that many individuals send. It won't block them,
    > but the HTML code will be mixed in with the actual message which could
    > make it hard to read.
    >
    >
    >
    > Chet wrote:
    > > That won't stop HTML email from loading, it will just make HTML display

    as
    > > text only.
    > >
    > > I think he has the idea that he can eliminate a lot of commercial email

    by
    > > blocking HTML from loading. That would be true if it could be done.
    > > Unfortunately, many individuals send regular mail formatted as HTML and
    > > would also be blocked.


    In OE it doesn't work that way. It strips the HTML tags out, and displays
    the text portion as best it can. Sometimes I see some tags in the body, but
    most of the time it gets rid of that, but most of the time, the text of the
    message is quite readable, and well formatted in plain text. When you are in
    plain text view, no HTML code or embedded java, VB, ActiveX scripts are
    executed. I have received emails that have one or more of those items
    embedded, and they absolutely do not execute when in plain text mode, but
    will when I switch to normal view. Plain text modeis a safe way to view
    email in OE6 SP1. If someone is receiving HTML emails that have embedded
    scripts that bounce information to a website, plain text view in OE6 SP1
    will stop that behavior.
     
    Thor, Oct 30, 2003
    #7
  8. Thor wrote:
    > "Calvin Crumrine" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >
    >>Maybe I should let Thor answer as I'm not familiar with OE, but
    >>generally when you load HTML as text-only it prevents the HTML code from
    >>being processed. If that is the case, and if his idea is correct then
    >>setting OE to text-only would accomplish his goal.
    >>
    >>Note that I don't think his idea is correct, but it could be. I suspect
    >>that his idea is based on the assumption that spammers are validating
    >>his email address via the HTML message and that removing that validation
    >>will cause his email address to be removed from the spammers list. I
    >>don't believe that either is generally the case, but it's possible.
    >>
    >>And you're basically correct in that displaying HTML messages as text
    >>will mess up the emails that many individuals send. It won't block them,
    >>but the HTML code will be mixed in with the actual message which could
    >>make it hard to read.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>Chet wrote:
    >>
    >>>That won't stop HTML email from loading, it will just make HTML display

    >
    > as
    >
    >>>text only.
    >>>
    >>>I think he has the idea that he can eliminate a lot of commercial email

    >
    > by
    >
    >>>blocking HTML from loading. That would be true if it could be done.
    >>>Unfortunately, many individuals send regular mail formatted as HTML and
    >>>would also be blocked.

    >
    >
    > In OE it doesn't work that way. It strips the HTML tags out, and displays
    > the text portion as best it can. Sometimes I see some tags in the body, but
    > most of the time it gets rid of that, but most of the time, the text of the
    > message is quite readable, and well formatted in plain text. When you are in
    > plain text view, no HTML code or embedded java, VB, ActiveX scripts are
    > executed. I have received emails that have one or more of those items
    > embedded, and they absolutely do not execute when in plain text mode, but
    > will when I switch to normal view. Plain text modeis a safe way to view
    > email in OE6 SP1. If someone is receiving HTML emails that have embedded
    > scripts that bounce information to a website, plain text view in OE6 SP1
    > will stop that behavior.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >

    So the effect is the same (blocking HTML/java/etc. sending data to the
    server) even tho the display rendering is different than what I described.

    The problem with the OP's idea IMO is that I don't think it will do very
    much to reduce the spam. It doesn't seem to me that spammers care very
    much about cleaning up their lists. That is, once you're on the list
    it's next to impossible to get off it even if you 'bounce' the spam. (I
    have an account that I use for registering, etc. The mailbox was full
    for over a year until I needed it a few months ago. I cleaned it out at
    that time & have seen no reduction in the amount of spam it has
    received-even though all email sent to it for at least a year had bounced.)
     
    Calvin Crumrine, Oct 30, 2003
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