Slow Startup & Shutdown...

Discussion in 'Windows 64bit' started by Steven Sinclair, Feb 22, 2010.

  1. Windows 7 Enterprise x64
    Intel i7 Quad
    8GB DDR3

    During startup and shutdown (especially shutdown), I'm experiencing a whole
    lot of slowness. I think I've traced down why, but don't understand the
    technical behind the errors. Here's what I'm seeing:

    This application took longer than usual to start up, resulting in a
    performance degradation in the system startup process:
    File Name : SearchIndexer.exe
    Friendly Name : Microsoft Windows Search Indexer
    Version : 7.00.7600.16385
    (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
    Total Time : 15715ms
    Degradation Time : 10715ms
    Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎22T20:42:21.671600300Z
    Event ID: 101
    Level: Warning
    User: LOCAL SERVICE
    OpCode: Boot Degradation

    Windows has started up:
    Boot Duration : 221684ms
    IsDegradation : false
    Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎22T20:42:21.671600300Z
    Event ID: 100
    Level: Critical
    User: LOCAL SERVICE
    OpCode: Boot Information

    This application took longer than usual to start up, resulting in a
    performance degradation in the system startup process:
    File Name : svchost.exe
    Friendly Name : Host Process for Windows Services
    Version : 6.1.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
    Total Time : 9698ms
    Degradation Time : 4698ms
    Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎22T20:42:21.671600300Z
    Event ID: 101
    Level: Warning
    User: LOCAL SERVICE
    OpCode: Boot Degradation

    This application took longer than usual to start up, resulting in a
    performance degradation in the system startup process:
    File Name : msiexec.exe
    Friendly Name : Windows® installer
    Version : 5.0.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
    Total Time : 10702ms
    Degradation Time : 4702ms
    Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎22T20:42:21.671600300Z
    Event ID: 101
    Level: Warning
    User: LOCAL SERVICE
    OpCode: Boot Degradation

    This application took longer than usual to start up, resulting in a
    performance degradation in the system startup process:
    File Name : communicator.exe
    Friendly Name : Microsoft Office Communicator 2005
    Version : 1.0.559.0 (RTC Version 4.3.5371.0)
    built by: lccmain
    Total Time : 16649ms
    Degradation Time : 11649ms
    Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎22T16:32:22.624800200Z
    Event ID: 101
    Level: Warning
    User: LOCAL SERVICE
    OpCode: Boot Degradation

    Windows has started up:
    Boot Duration : 134371ms
    IsDegradation : true
    Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎22T16:32:22.624800200Z
    Event ID: 100
    Level: Critical
    User: LOCAL SERVICE
    OpCode: Boot Information

    This application took longer than usual to start up, resulting in a
    performance degradation in the system startup process:
    File Name : svchost.exe
    Friendly Name : Host Process for Windows Services
    Version : 6.1.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
    Total Time : 13350ms
    Degradation Time : 5850ms
    Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎22T16:32:22.624800200Z
    Event ID: 101
    Level: Warning
    User: LOCAL SERVICE
    OpCode: Boot Degradation

    This application took longer than usual to start up, resulting in a
    performance degradation in the system startup process:
    File Name : explorer.exe
    Friendly Name : Windows Explorer
    Version : 6.1.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
    Total Time : 3417ms
    Degradation Time : 917ms
    Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎22T16:32:22.624800200Z
    Event ID: 101
    Level: Warning
    User: LOCAL SERVICE
    OpCode: Boot Degradation

    This application took longer than usual to start up, resulting in a
    performance degradation in the system startup process:
    File Name : dllhost.exe
    Friendly Name : COM Surrogate
    Version : 6.1.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
    Total Time : 3633ms
    Degradation Time : 1133ms
    Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎22T16:32:22.624800200Z
    Event ID: 101
    Level: Warning
    User: LOCAL SERVICE
    OpCode: Boot Degradation

    This service caused a delay during hybrid-sleep:
    File Name : IFXTCS
    Friendly Name : TCPA TSS Core Service
    Version : 3.60.2071.00
    Total Time : 5007ms
    Degradation Time : 4007ms
    Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎20T06:38:19.272418500Z
    Event ID: 303
    Level: Error
    User: LOCAL SERVICE
    OpCode: Standby Degradation

    Windows has resumed from standby:
    Standby Duration : 29599ms
    Standby Incident Time (UTC) :
    ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎20T06:38:19.272418500Z
    Resume Duration : 15511ms
    Resume Incident Time (UTC) :
    ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎22T15:11:46.538031800Z
    IsDegradation : true
    Event ID: 300
    Level: Error
    User: LOCAL SERVICE
    OpCode: Standby Information

    Preparing core system for sleep was slower than expected:
    Name : PreSleepCallbacks
    Total Time : 103ms
    Degradation Time : 53ms
    Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎20T06:38:19.272418500Z
    Event ID: 309
    Level: Warning
    User: LOCAL SERVICE
    OpCode: Standby Degradation

    This driver responded slower than expected to the resume request while
    servicing this device:
    Driver File Name : \Driver\ACPI
    Driver Friendly Name : ACPI Driver for NT
    Driver Version : 6.1.7600.16385
    (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
    Driver Total Time : 1639ms
    Driver Degradation Time : 1239ms
    Incident Time (UTC) :
    ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎22T15:11:46.538031800Z
    Device Name : ACPI_HAL\PNP0C08\0
    Device Friendly Name : Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System
    Device Total Time : 1639ms
    Device Degradation Time : 1239ms
    Event ID: 351
    Level: Error
    User: LOCAL SERVICE
    OpCode: Standby Degradation

    Persisting disk caches was slower than expected:
    Name : FlushVolumes
    Total Time : 6730ms
    Degradation Time : 3730ms
    Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎20T06:38:19.272418500Z
    Event ID: 305
    Level: Error
    User: LOCAL SERVICE
    OpCode: Standby Degradation

    Is it just me or does it appear as though the system is having issues with
    standby or hibernation? The interesting part of this whole thing is that I've
    never initiated a standby or hibernation process...only simple startups and
    shutdowns. I'm at a loss. Anyone have any suggestions for me?

    Thank you.
    Steven Sinclair, Feb 22, 2010
    #1
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    Steven Sinclair, Feb 23, 2010
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  3. Whoa...

    The silence is deafening!

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    Steven Sinclair, Feb 24, 2010
    #3
  4. Steven Sinclair

    Dennis Pack Guest

    Steven:
    I know that the silence is disheartening. I haven't replicated your
    problem and I'm not trying to start another AMD/Intel dispute with what I'm
    recommending. For testing purposes remove one or two sticks of ram. If the
    problem is gone the cause is a conflict between the motherboard, bios and
    processor when all 4 ram slots are populated. Another possibility is if your
    system came with an AV program and you installed a different AV program
    without fully removing all of the original program first. Have a great day.
    --
    Dennis Pack
    Win-7 Enterprise x64, Win-7 Professional x64.
    "Steven Sinclair" <> wrote in
    message news:...
    > Whoa...
    >
    > The silence is deafening!
    >
    > ;-)
    >
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    Dennis Pack, Feb 25, 2010
    #4
  5. First off, I want to thank you for your response, Dennis.

    AMD/Intel dispute? Huh? Are you running an AMD? My notebook is an
    Intel-based system. Removing each one of the DIMMs and running the system on
    each one resulted in no differences...still have the lag at startup and
    shutdown. In addition, this system did not come pre-installed with an AV
    solution and it is a clean install of Win7Entx64, with only the basics
    installed.

    Any other suggestions out there in never-never land? At this point, I'm
    ready to give up and move backward as I've experienced no issues running a
    32-bit platform. Thanks again.

    "Dennis Pack" wrote:

    > Steven:
    > I know that the silence is disheartening. I haven't replicated your
    > problem and I'm not trying to start another AMD/Intel dispute with what I'm
    > recommending. For testing purposes remove one or two sticks of ram. If the
    > problem is gone the cause is a conflict between the motherboard, bios and
    > processor when all 4 ram slots are populated. Another possibility is if your
    > system came with an AV program and you installed a different AV program
    > without fully removing all of the original program first. Have a great day.
    > --
    > Dennis Pack
    > Win-7 Enterprise x64, Win-7 Professional x64.
    > "Steven Sinclair" <> wrote in
    > message news:...
    > > Whoa...
    > >
    > > The silence is deafening!
    > >
    > > ;-)
    > >
    > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
    > > signature database 4893 (20100224) __________
    > >
    > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
    > >
    > > http://www.eset.com
    > >
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
    > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4893 (20100224) __________
    >
    > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
    >
    > http://www.eset.com
    >
    >
    >
    Steven Sinclair, Feb 25, 2010
    #5
  6. Steven Sinclair

    Vjekoslav Guest

    It has nothing to do with hardware, it's just your OS, which is I presume
    just instaled and Search Indexer is indexing your data so is slowing system
    down.Another thing is may be updating OS and other software installed.
    Just give your mashine a bit of time and I belive it's going to be all fine.
    Of course, I didn't read all of your message, so can't give you more info.
    Don't like to give advices blind. One thing is what it says, other is actual
    situation. Try to help yourself, moving around, trying this and that, and
    you'll find the solution. Best wishes..... for a good mashine.
    Vjekoslav, Feb 25, 2010
    #6
  7. Hmm...yes, perhaps the same day of OS installation, I could expect the system
    to slow "a little bit," but consistently 10 minutes at the shutdown portion
    of every single restart...even two weeks after OS installation is a bit
    ridiculous, wouldn't you say? Oh yeah, and in case it makes a difference, my
    Windows Experience Index is 7.9 across the board. ;-)
    Steven Sinclair, Feb 26, 2010
    #7
  8. It's definitely not a characteristic of Windows 7 to be slow either way.
    You need to look very closely at your system to see if you can
    discover what is affecting your system.

    My startup and shutdown with Win 7 x64 Pro is pretty quick but I have
    never timed it. Probably around two minutes for startup and about a
    minute for shutdown.

    I've had my system since late August.



    On 2010-02-26 14:48, Steven Sinclair wrote:
    > Hmm...yes, perhaps the same day of OS installation, I could expect the system
    > to slow "a little bit," but consistently 10 minutes at the shutdown portion
    > of every single restart...even two weeks after OS installation is a bit
    > ridiculous, wouldn't you say? Oh yeah, and in case it makes a difference, my
    > Windows Experience Index is 7.9 across the board. ;-)
    Bobby Johnson, Feb 26, 2010
    #8
  9. Steven Sinclair

    Tom Guest

    That actually seems like a long time for a start-up and shutdown in Win7
    64bit. I startup in about 25 seconds and shutdown in about 5-10 seconds.
    Even in XP with my previous PC, I would start-up in about 30 seconds and
    shutdown in about 5-10 seconds as well.

    "Bobby Johnson" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > It's definitely not a characteristic of Windows 7 to be slow either way.
    > You need to look very closely at your system to see if you can discover
    > what is affecting your system.
    >
    > My startup and shutdown with Win 7 x64 Pro is pretty quick but I have
    > never timed it. Probably around two minutes for startup and about a
    > minute for shutdown.
    >
    > I've had my system since late August.
    >
    >
    >
    > On 2010-02-26 14:48, Steven Sinclair wrote:
    >> Hmm...yes, perhaps the same day of OS installation, I could expect the
    >> system
    >> to slow "a little bit," but consistently 10 minutes at the shutdown
    >> portion
    >> of every single restart...even two weeks after OS installation is a bit
    >> ridiculous, wouldn't you say? Oh yeah, and in case it makes a difference,
    >> my
    >> Windows Experience Index is 7.9 across the board. ;-)
    Tom, Feb 27, 2010
    #9
  10. Steven Sinclair

    VE2 Guest

    Just a thought...it it just as slow when not connected
    to any network?

    "Steven Sinclair" <> wrote in
    message news:...
    > Windows 7 Enterprise x64
    > Intel i7 Quad
    > 8GB DDR3
    >
    > During startup and shutdown (especially shutdown), I'm experiencing a
    > whole
    > lot of slowness. I think I've traced down why, but don't understand the
    > technical behind the errors. Here's what I'm seeing:
    >
    > This application took longer than usual to start up, resulting in a
    > performance degradation in the system startup process:
    > File Name : SearchIndexer.exe
    > Friendly Name : Microsoft Windows Search Indexer
    > Version : 7.00.7600.16385
    > (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
    > Total Time : 15715ms
    > Degradation Time : 10715ms
    > Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎22T20:42:21.671600300Z
    > Event ID: 101
    > Level: Warning
    > User: LOCAL SERVICE
    > OpCode: Boot Degradation
    >
    > Windows has started up:
    > Boot Duration : 221684ms
    > IsDegradation : false
    > Incident Time (UTC) :
    > ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎22T20:42:21.671600300Z
    > Event ID: 100
    > Level: Critical
    > User: LOCAL SERVICE
    > OpCode: Boot Information
    >
    > This application took longer than usual to start up, resulting in a
    > performance degradation in the system startup process:
    > File Name : svchost.exe
    > Friendly Name : Host Process for Windows Services
    > Version : 6.1.7600.16385
    > (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
    > Total Time : 9698ms
    > Degradation Time : 4698ms
    > Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎22T20:42:21.671600300Z
    > Event ID: 101
    > Level: Warning
    > User: LOCAL SERVICE
    > OpCode: Boot Degradation
    >
    > This application took longer than usual to start up, resulting in a
    > performance degradation in the system startup process:
    > File Name : msiexec.exe
    > Friendly Name : Windows® installer
    > Version : 5.0.7600.16385
    > (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
    > Total Time : 10702ms
    > Degradation Time : 4702ms
    > Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎22T20:42:21.671600300Z
    > Event ID: 101
    > Level: Warning
    > User: LOCAL SERVICE
    > OpCode: Boot Degradation
    >
    > This application took longer than usual to start up, resulting in a
    > performance degradation in the system startup process:
    > File Name : communicator.exe
    > Friendly Name : Microsoft Office Communicator 2005
    > Version : 1.0.559.0 (RTC Version 4.3.5371.0)
    > built by: lccmain
    > Total Time : 16649ms
    > Degradation Time : 11649ms
    > Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎22T16:32:22.624800200Z
    > Event ID: 101
    > Level: Warning
    > User: LOCAL SERVICE
    > OpCode: Boot Degradation
    >
    > Windows has started up:
    > Boot Duration : 134371ms
    > IsDegradation : true
    > Incident Time (UTC) :
    > ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎22T16:32:22.624800200Z
    > Event ID: 100
    > Level: Critical
    > User: LOCAL SERVICE
    > OpCode: Boot Information
    >
    > This application took longer than usual to start up, resulting in a
    > performance degradation in the system startup process:
    > File Name : svchost.exe
    > Friendly Name : Host Process for Windows Services
    > Version : 6.1.7600.16385
    > (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
    > Total Time : 13350ms
    > Degradation Time : 5850ms
    > Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎22T16:32:22.624800200Z
    > Event ID: 101
    > Level: Warning
    > User: LOCAL SERVICE
    > OpCode: Boot Degradation
    >
    > This application took longer than usual to start up, resulting in a
    > performance degradation in the system startup process:
    > File Name : explorer.exe
    > Friendly Name : Windows Explorer
    > Version : 6.1.7600.16385
    > (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
    > Total Time : 3417ms
    > Degradation Time : 917ms
    > Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎22T16:32:22.624800200Z
    > Event ID: 101
    > Level: Warning
    > User: LOCAL SERVICE
    > OpCode: Boot Degradation
    >
    > This application took longer than usual to start up, resulting in a
    > performance degradation in the system startup process:
    > File Name : dllhost.exe
    > Friendly Name : COM Surrogate
    > Version : 6.1.7600.16385
    > (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
    > Total Time : 3633ms
    > Degradation Time : 1133ms
    > Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎22T16:32:22.624800200Z
    > Event ID: 101
    > Level: Warning
    > User: LOCAL SERVICE
    > OpCode: Boot Degradation
    >
    > This service caused a delay during hybrid-sleep:
    > File Name : IFXTCS
    > Friendly Name : TCPA TSS Core Service
    > Version : 3.60.2071.00
    > Total Time : 5007ms
    > Degradation Time : 4007ms
    > Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎20T06:38:19.272418500Z
    > Event ID: 303
    > Level: Error
    > User: LOCAL SERVICE
    > OpCode: Standby Degradation
    >
    > Windows has resumed from standby:
    > Standby Duration : 29599ms
    > Standby Incident Time (UTC) :
    > ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎20T06:38:19.272418500Z
    > Resume Duration : 15511ms
    > Resume Incident Time (UTC) :
    > ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎22T15:11:46.538031800Z
    > IsDegradation : true
    > Event ID: 300
    > Level: Error
    > User: LOCAL SERVICE
    > OpCode: Standby Information
    >
    > Preparing core system for sleep was slower than expected:
    > Name : PreSleepCallbacks
    > Total Time : 103ms
    > Degradation Time : 53ms
    > Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎20T06:38:19.272418500Z
    > Event ID: 309
    > Level: Warning
    > User: LOCAL SERVICE
    > OpCode: Standby Degradation
    >
    > This driver responded slower than expected to the resume request while
    > servicing this device:
    > Driver File Name : \Driver\ACPI
    > Driver Friendly Name : ACPI Driver for NT
    > Driver Version : 6.1.7600.16385
    > (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
    > Driver Total Time : 1639ms
    > Driver Degradation Time : 1239ms
    > Incident Time (UTC) :
    > ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎22T15:11:46.538031800Z
    > Device Name : ACPI_HAL\PNP0C08\0
    > Device Friendly Name : Microsoft ACPI-Compliant
    > System
    > Device Total Time : 1639ms
    > Device Degradation Time : 1239ms
    > Event ID: 351
    > Level: Error
    > User: LOCAL SERVICE
    > OpCode: Standby Degradation
    >
    > Persisting disk caches was slower than expected:
    > Name : FlushVolumes
    > Total Time : 6730ms
    > Degradation Time : 3730ms
    > Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2010‎-‎02‎-‎20T06:38:19.272418500Z
    > Event ID: 305
    > Level: Error
    > User: LOCAL SERVICE
    > OpCode: Standby Degradation
    >
    > Is it just me or does it appear as though the system is having issues with
    > standby or hibernation? The interesting part of this whole thing is that
    > I've
    > never initiated a standby or hibernation process...only simple startups
    > and
    > shutdowns. I'm at a loss. Anyone have any suggestions for me?
    >
    > Thank you.
    VE2, Feb 28, 2010
    #10
  11. Steven Sinclair

    Tom Guest

    "David Kerber" <ns_dkerber@ns_warrenrogersassociates.com> wrote in message
    news:...
    > In article <>,
    > says...
    >>
    >> That actually seems like a long time for a start-up and shutdown in Win7
    >> 64bit. I startup in about 25 seconds and shutdown in about 5-10 seconds.

    >
    > I've found that shutdown is quite slow if it has to shut down xp mode
    > before shutting down the host.
    >
    > D


    That's more of a sign that programs are running in the background when
    attempting to shutdown. They have to disengage them during the shutdown
    process. On my previous PC, XP 32bit with a P4 3.2gig processor (the old
    single core) with 2gigs of RAM, I had nearly as fast a startup and shutdown
    as the system I have now with Win7 64bit. And my current system has 12gigs
    1333mhz RAM, an i7 950, and a 160gig SSD for the primary drive.

    On both systems, I never have anything running at startup, I turn things on
    when I need them and turn them off when I don't. I know this is scary for
    some people, but I never use anti-virus protection as well as that is cause
    for many a slow startup and shutdown.
    Tom, Mar 1, 2010
    #11
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