Selling Stolen Property By Spam

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by PC, Oct 13, 2003.

  1. PC

    PC Guest

    Ata boy Bruce

    PC

    "Bruce Simpson" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Just in case anyone's interested, I caught one of the Net's biggest
    > spammers stealing from Altavista and re-selling to anyone stupid
    > enough to believe that spammers don't lie. AltaVista are not
    > best-pleased but I'm sure lots of domain name holders who are
    > regularly bombarded with this crowd's spam will be :)
    >
    > http://aardvark.co.nz/daily/2003/1015.shtml
    >
    > --
    > you can contact me via http://aardvark.co.nz/contact/
     
    PC, Oct 13, 2003
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  2. Just in case anyone's interested, I caught one of the Net's biggest
    spammers stealing from Altavista and re-selling to anyone stupid
    enough to believe that spammers don't lie. AltaVista are not
    best-pleased but I'm sure lots of domain name holders who are
    regularly bombarded with this crowd's spam will be :)

    http://aardvark.co.nz/daily/2003/1015.shtml

    --
    you can contact me via http://aardvark.co.nz/contact/
     
    Bruce Simpson, Oct 14, 2003
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  3. PC

    Gavin Tunney Guest

    On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:47:44 +1300, Bruce Simpson
    <> wrote:

    >Just in case anyone's interested, I caught one of the Net's biggest
    >spammers stealing from Altavista and re-selling to anyone stupid
    >enough to believe that spammers don't lie. AltaVista are not
    >best-pleased but I'm sure lots of domain name holders who are
    >regularly bombarded with this crowd's spam will be :)
    >
    >http://aardvark.co.nz/daily/2003/1015.shtml


    So what's the difference between Kevin Breedvelds post and this post
    of yours Bruce? Aardvark is a commercial website whose income is
    derived primarily from the number of people who visit it, and it seems
    to me you're asking people to visit your (commercial) site here.

    Gavin
     
    Gavin Tunney, Oct 17, 2003
    #3
  4. On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:36:55 GMT, (Gavin Tunney)
    wrote:

    >On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:47:44 +1300, Bruce Simpson
    ><> wrote:
    >
    >>Just in case anyone's interested, I caught one of the Net's biggest
    >>spammers stealing from Altavista and re-selling to anyone stupid
    >>enough to believe that spammers don't lie. AltaVista are not
    >>best-pleased but I'm sure lots of domain name holders who are
    >>regularly bombarded with this crowd's spam will be :)
    >>
    >>http://aardvark.co.nz/daily/2003/1015.shtml

    >
    >So what's the difference between Kevin Breedvelds post and this post
    >of yours Bruce? Aardvark is a commercial website whose income is
    >derived primarily from the number of people who visit it, and it seems
    >to me you're asking people to visit your (commercial) site here.


    Could it be that:

    1. there are lots of threads on spam here so it's highly relevant

    2. there is *no charge* for visiting my website and I sell nothing to
    those who visit. Sure, there's some sponsorship but that's flat-rate
    and I don't earn a single cent more when someone visits. It also
    doesn't actually cover the costs of providing the service and likely
    never will -- so that hardly constitutes a business does it?

    3. I also contribute regularly here and sometimes like to start the
    thread of a new discussion. Pointing out that their might be
    something on my site that might worth discussing here is no different
    to someone posting a link to a story on Wired.com, IDG.net or any
    other publication. It's not like I post links to every edition I
    write, in fact it's only very occasionally I post such links - and
    then, only to those stories that I *know* readers here are likely to
    be interested in.

    Okay?

    --
    you can contact me via http://aardvark.co.nz/contact/
     
    Bruce Simpson, Oct 18, 2003
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  5. PC

    E. Scrooge Guest

    "Gavin Tunney" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:47:44 +1300, Bruce Simpson
    > <> wrote:
    >
    > >Just in case anyone's interested, I caught one of the Net's biggest
    > >spammers stealing from Altavista and re-selling to anyone stupid
    > >enough to believe that spammers don't lie. AltaVista are not
    > >best-pleased but I'm sure lots of domain name holders who are
    > >regularly bombarded with this crowd's spam will be :)
    > >
    > >http://aardvark.co.nz/daily/2003/1015.shtml

    >
    > So what's the difference between Kevin Breedvelds post and this post
    > of yours Bruce? Aardvark is a commercial website whose income is
    > derived primarily from the number of people who visit it, and it seems
    > to me you're asking people to visit your (commercial) site here.
    >
    > Gavin


    LOL
    What exactly is Bruce trying to sell? I'm pretty sure that Bruce doesn't
    work for a money grubbing low life outfit like Telecom/Xtra.
    Your post is about as funny as the damn spam Jetstream tightly thottled
    plans that Telecom send out with the phone accounts.
    Looks like another damn Ape just fell out of his tree. Pay Per View
    commercial website claim, what a joke.

    E. Scrooge
     
    E. Scrooge, Oct 18, 2003
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  6. PC

    T.N.O. Guest

    "Bruce Simpson" wrote
    > >>http://aardvark.co.nz/daily/2003/1015.shtml


    > >So what's the difference between Kevin Breedvelds post and this post
    > >of yours Bruce?


    > Could it be that:
    > 1. there are lots of threads on spam here so it's highly relevant
    > 3. I also contribute regularly here and sometimes like to start the
    > thread of a new discussion.
    > Okay?


    I sniped two, but I get what you mean... I was going to say approx the same
    stuff..
     
    T.N.O., Oct 18, 2003
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  7. PC

    Gavin Tunney Guest

    On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 14:07:13 +1300, "E. Scrooge"
    < (remove eye)> wrote:

    >
    >"Gavin Tunney" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:47:44 +1300, Bruce Simpson
    >> <> wrote:
    >>
    >> >Just in case anyone's interested, I caught one of the Net's biggest
    >> >spammers stealing from Altavista and re-selling to anyone stupid
    >> >enough to believe that spammers don't lie. AltaVista are not
    >> >best-pleased but I'm sure lots of domain name holders who are
    >> >regularly bombarded with this crowd's spam will be :)
    >> >
    >> >http://aardvark.co.nz/daily/2003/1015.shtml

    >>
    >> So what's the difference between Kevin Breedvelds post and this post
    >> of yours Bruce? Aardvark is a commercial website whose income is
    >> derived primarily from the number of people who visit it, and it seems
    >> to me you're asking people to visit your (commercial) site here.
    >>
    >> Gavin

    >
    >LOL
    >What exactly is Bruce trying to sell? I'm pretty sure that Bruce doesn't
    >work for a money grubbing low life outfit like Telecom/Xtra.
    >Your post is about as funny as the damn spam Jetstream tightly thottled
    >plans that Telecom send out with the phone accounts.
    >Looks like another damn Ape just fell out of his tree. Pay Per View
    >commercial website claim, what a joke.
    >


    Web publishing sites actually are pay per view, it's just not the
    viewer who pays. Advertising rates are dependent on the number of site
    hits.... the more hits a site gets the more the advertiser has to pay.


    Web publishers get their income from all sorts of sources such as
    subscriptions, banner ads, linking, reprints etc.......but they are
    all dependent on website hits. If you don't get the viewers you don't
    get the income. For most publishers the actual content is just a means
    of generating website hits which in turn generates income from
    whatever sources they're canny enough to think up or latch onto.

    But that's all academic here, Bruce has replied that Aardvark is a
    non-profit organisation that loses money so obviously he derives his
    income from other sources that are not allied to his website.

    Gavin
     
    Gavin Tunney, Oct 18, 2003
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  8. PC

    E. Scrooge Guest

    "Gavin Tunney" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 14:07:13 +1300, "E. Scrooge"
    > < (remove eye)> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >"Gavin Tunney" <> wrote in message
    > >news:...
    > >> On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:47:44 +1300, Bruce Simpson
    > >> <> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >Just in case anyone's interested, I caught one of the Net's biggest
    > >> >spammers stealing from Altavista and re-selling to anyone stupid
    > >> >enough to believe that spammers don't lie. AltaVista are not
    > >> >best-pleased but I'm sure lots of domain name holders who are
    > >> >regularly bombarded with this crowd's spam will be :)
    > >> >
    > >> >http://aardvark.co.nz/daily/2003/1015.shtml
    > >>
    > >> So what's the difference between Kevin Breedvelds post and this post
    > >> of yours Bruce? Aardvark is a commercial website whose income is
    > >> derived primarily from the number of people who visit it, and it seems
    > >> to me you're asking people to visit your (commercial) site here.
    > >>
    > >> Gavin

    > >
    > >LOL
    > >What exactly is Bruce trying to sell? I'm pretty sure that Bruce

    doesn't
    > >work for a money grubbing low life outfit like Telecom/Xtra.
    > >Your post is about as funny as the damn spam Jetstream tightly thottled
    > >plans that Telecom send out with the phone accounts.
    > >Looks like another damn Ape just fell out of his tree. Pay Per View
    > >commercial website claim, what a joke.
    > >

    >
    > Web publishing sites actually are pay per view, it's just not the
    > viewer who pays. Advertising rates are dependent on the number of site
    > hits.... the more hits a site gets the more the advertiser has to pay.
    >
    >
    > Web publishers get their income from all sorts of sources such as
    > subscriptions, banner ads, linking, reprints etc.......but they are
    > all dependent on website hits. If you don't get the viewers you don't
    > get the income. For most publishers the actual content is just a means
    > of generating website hits which in turn generates income from
    > whatever sources they're canny enough to think up or latch onto.
    >
    > But that's all academic here, Bruce has replied that Aardvark is a
    > non-profit organisation that loses money so obviously he derives his
    > income from other sources that are not allied to his website.
    >
    > Gavin


    People post links to articles on Stuff and the Herald website all the time,
    and that's no big deal either. Pretty large fish compared Bruce's low
    budget website.
    If Bruce was selling off useful products like cameras, cruise missiles, and
    computers from his website, and advertising these retail goods for which he
    hopes to profit from in the newsgroups - That would be quite a different
    story.
    Also each little hit to a website doesn't add up to being that much. It
    would take thousands of hits to make any noticeable difference. I can't see
    there being a big market for trying to get thousands of website hits from
    the few people that post in this little group. Granted that Roger might
    choose to visit the same website over a thousand times each day, but not
    many sane people would bother to.
    As far as Bruce's main sponsor goes, he most likely has a set deal with them
    no matter how many people visit his website.

    E. Scrooge
     
    E. Scrooge, Oct 19, 2003
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