Seeking Support Oriented Members for new 'Virtual Users Group'

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by Scott C. Van Sanford, Aug 10, 2004.

  1. Seeking to answer the question
    "Who Knows Dot Info?"

    "Who Knows Dot Info" is a 'Virtual Users Group', currently in the earliest
    stages of formation.

    We are committed to empowering support by improving the ease of use,
    availability, and immediate usefulness of support knowledge.

    As our name, "Who Knows Dot Info," reflects, that just as sometimes it's not
    so much WHAT you know, as WHO you know, at other times it's far more of a
    question of "Do you know how to know who knows?"

    Unlike may other support oriented groups, our purpose is to focus NOT on the
    answers, mind you, but more the questions. Serving less as a yet another
    knowledge base or fix-oriented help desk, but rather as a catalyst for
    establishing a Meta Knowledge Base, seeking through discussion and resource
    sharing to establish a knowledge base of knowledge bases, and eventually
    providing a programatic help desk serving to guide users to the appropriate
    fix-oriented knowledge bases and help desks across the internet.

    The term 'Virtual' Users Group is meant to highlight the fact that Who Knows
    Dot Info's membership will linked more by a common shared vision than by a
    common shared geography. Who Knows Dot Info seeks members whereever they
    may be found, the sole membership criteria being a desire to support our
    vision for empowering support.

    To more effectively access support and support knowledge, whereever that
    knowledge may be found, requires not only aiding access to the vast wealth
    of knowledge encapsulated in the various Support Knowledge Bases scattered
    accross the web, but further includes linking users to those supportive
    individuals that are our ultimate knowledge bases

    Since such a broad spectrum solution will require that the problem space be
    subdivided, and since mere discussions alone, without any consequent actions
    toward realizing discussion's goals, might be a potentially futile effort,
    three conceptually related off-shoot projects have been established at
    HeKnows.Info, eKnows.Info, and eKnows.Net.

    These three supporting projects and implementation staging grounds are
    currently instantiated as co-resident domains, which will be separated into
    three discrete entities as the need arises.

    Thus, WhoKnows.Info will be supported in its mission and even member without
    their own independent means for creating trial implementations of the
    systems actions suggested in our discussions will be richly supported in
    pursuit of our answers to the age old question of "Who Knows Dot Info?".

    It is hoped, but by no means required, that some portion of the members of
    Who Knows Dot Info may join onto one or more of these supporting project
    teams, each of which will be endeavoring to instantiate some aspect of the
    specific resources desirable in furtherance of our goals and aspirations of
    better assisting users.

    Who Knows Dot Info (http://www.WhoKnows.Info) will serve as the Users
    Group's home, providing a forum for the sharing of ideas, methodologies, and
    resources which might enable the membership to better answer the question
    "Who Knows Dot Info?" addressing the core questions of how to improve the
    accessibility of support knowledge and resources, not only to Who Knows Dot
    Info members, but for members of the larger Dot Net community as well, and
    ideally at some point extending our reach so as to offer the benefits of our
    discussions, and the improvements thereby engendered, to the greater
    computing community at large.

    "He Knows Dot Info" (http://www.HeKnows.Info) will serve as the home for a
    team undertaking to guide users to supportive individuals and organizations,
    providing answers to the literal question "Who Knows Dot Info?" initially
    abstractly, and then as a simple catalog, but with the long term goal of
    answering that question ever more effectively and appropriately by
    instantiating a knowledge base linking individuals, websites, and
    organizations as specific solutions to specific problems, thereby offering
    specific "He Knows Dot Info" answers to specific "Who Knows Dot Info?"
    questions, in much the same way as support.microsoft.com will direct a user
    to prospective solutions for a specific error code.

    "eKnows Info" (http://www.eKnows.Info) will serve as the home for a team
    undertaking, in a similar manner, to guide users to appropriate electronic
    resources, those 'e' rather than 'He' resources, in the form of knowledge
    bases, discussion groups, and other supportive resources, both identifying
    those resources and furthermore offering guidance regarding the best means
    of more effectively accessing the sought for knowledge therein.

    Finally "eKnows .Net" (http://www.eKnows.Net) will serve as the home for a
    team undertaking the development of a .NET Connected Application endeavoring
    to instantiate the goals and aspirations of Who Knows Dot Info, thereby
    leveraging the insights of Who Knows Dot Info, combined with the knowledge
    stores of HeKnows.Info and eKnows.Info.

    The initial focus of the eKnows.Net development team will be on leveraging
    these insights and knowledge on behalf of members of the Dot Net community,
    but hopefully in time this focus will expand in an effort to offer similar
    benefits to the greater computing community at large as well.

    As stated before, while it is hoped that some members of Who Knows Dot Info
    may join onto one or more of these off-shoot project teams, this will by no
    means be required.



    If the notions described here appeal to you, then I would invite you to
    visit us at http://www.WhoKnows.Info/www .



    Scott C. Van Sanford ~ Founder
     
    Scott C. Van Sanford, Aug 10, 2004
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  2. Scott C. Van Sanford wrote:

    > Seeking to answer the question
    > "Who Knows Dot Info?"


    > "Who Knows Dot Info" is a 'Virtual Users Group', currently in the earliest
    > stages of formation.


    > We are committed to empowering support by improving the ease of use,
    > availability, and immediate usefulness of support knowledge.


    > As our name, "Who Knows Dot Info," reflects, that just as sometimes it's not
    > so much WHAT you know, as WHO you know, at other times it's far more of a
    > question of "Do you know how to know who knows?"


    > Unlike may other support oriented groups, our purpose is to focus NOT on the
    > answers, mind you, but more the questions. Serving less as a yet another
    > knowledge base or fix-oriented help desk, but rather as a catalyst for
    > establishing a Meta Knowledge Base, seeking through discussion and resource
    > sharing to establish a knowledge base of knowledge bases, and eventually
    > providing a programatic help desk serving to guide users to the appropriate
    > fix-oriented knowledge bases and help desks across the internet.


    > The term 'Virtual' Users Group is meant to highlight the fact that Who Knows
    > Dot Info's membership will linked more by a common shared vision than by a
    > common shared geography. Who Knows Dot Info seeks members whereever they
    > may be found, the sole membership criteria being a desire to support our
    > vision for empowering support.


    > To more effectively access support and support knowledge, whereever that
    > knowledge may be found, requires not only aiding access to the vast wealth
    > of knowledge encapsulated in the various Support Knowledge Bases scattered
    > accross the web, but further includes linking users to those supportive
    > individuals that are our ultimate knowledge bases


    > Since such a broad spectrum solution will require that the problem space be
    > subdivided, and since mere discussions alone, without any consequent actions
    > toward realizing discussion's goals, might be a potentially futile effort,
    > three conceptually related off-shoot projects have been established at
    > HeKnows.Info, eKnows.Info, and eKnows.Net.


    > These three supporting projects and implementation staging grounds are
    > currently instantiated as co-resident domains, which will be separated into
    > three discrete entities as the need arises.


    > Thus, WhoKnows.Info will be supported in its mission and even member without
    > their own independent means for creating trial implementations of the
    > systems actions suggested in our discussions will be richly supported in
    > pursuit of our answers to the age old question of "Who Knows Dot Info?".


    > It is hoped, but by no means required, that some portion of the members of
    > Who Knows Dot Info may join onto one or more of these supporting project
    > teams, each of which will be endeavoring to instantiate some aspect of the
    > specific resources desirable in furtherance of our goals and aspirations of
    > better assisting users.


    > Who Knows Dot Info (http://www.WhoKnows.Info) will serve as the Users
    > Group's home, providing a forum for the sharing of ideas, methodologies, and
    > resources which might enable the membership to better answer the question
    > "Who Knows Dot Info?" addressing the core questions of how to improve the
    > accessibility of support knowledge and resources, not only to Who Knows Dot
    > Info members, but for members of the larger Dot Net community as well, and
    > ideally at some point extending our reach so as to offer the benefits of our
    > discussions, and the improvements thereby engendered, to the greater
    > computing community at large.


    > "He Knows Dot Info" (http://www.HeKnows.Info) will serve as the home for a
    > team undertaking to guide users to supportive individuals and organizations,
    > providing answers to the literal question "Who Knows Dot Info?" initially
    > abstractly, and then as a simple catalog, but with the long term goal of
    > answering that question ever more effectively and appropriately by
    > instantiating a knowledge base linking individuals, websites, and
    > organizations as specific solutions to specific problems, thereby offering
    > specific "He Knows Dot Info" answers to specific "Who Knows Dot Info?"
    > questions, in much the same way as support.microsoft.com will direct a user
    > to prospective solutions for a specific error code.


    > "eKnows Info" (http://www.eKnows.Info) will serve as the home for a team
    > undertaking, in a similar manner, to guide users to appropriate electronic
    > resources, those 'e' rather than 'He' resources, in the form of knowledge
    > bases, discussion groups, and other supportive resources, both identifying
    > those resources and furthermore offering guidance regarding the best means
    > of more effectively accessing the sought for knowledge therein.


    > Finally "eKnows .Net" (http://www.eKnows.Net) will serve as the home for a
    > team undertaking the development of a .NET Connected Application endeavoring
    > to instantiate the goals and aspirations of Who Knows Dot Info, thereby
    > leveraging the insights of Who Knows Dot Info, combined with the knowledge
    > stores of HeKnows.Info and eKnows.Info.


    > The initial focus of the eKnows.Net development team will be on leveraging
    > these insights and knowledge on behalf of members of the Dot Net community,
    > but hopefully in time this focus will expand in an effort to offer similar
    > benefits to the greater computing community at large as well.


    > As stated before, while it is hoped that some members of Who Knows Dot Info
    > may join onto one or more of these off-shoot project teams, this will by no
    > means be required.


    [leaving in all of the glorious wordage, because to snip any of it would break
    the delicious light-headed mood it creates in the reader]

    I'm always looking for interesting software. Is that output from
    BuzzWordPro, or some other grant-writing program. Whichever is the source,
    does it - before it starts going chuggachugga - allow the user to plug in some
    of his own favorite buzzwords, or is it limited to a hardwired keywords.

    --
    Blinky Linux Registered User 297263

    An Important Health Reminder http://snipurl.com/healthyshark
     
    Blinky the Shark, Aug 10, 2004
    #2
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  3. Blinky the Shark wrote:

    > Scott C. Van Sanford wrote:


    <snipping *this time around>

    > [leaving in all of the glorious wordage, because to snip any of it would break
    > the delicious light-headed mood it creates in the reader]
    >
    > I'm always looking for interesting software. Is that output from
    > BuzzWordPro, or some other grant-writing program. Whichever is the source,
    > does it - before it starts going chuggachugga - allow the user to plug in some
    > of his own favorite buzzwords, or is it limited to a hardwired keywords.


    I just wrote two questions without question marks. Ugh. See, I *said* the
    original post made me light-headed! Ieeeee! <urp>

    --
    Blinky Linux Registered User 297263

    An Important Health Reminder http://snipurl.com/healthyshark
     
    Blinky the Shark, Aug 10, 2004
    #3
  4. Scott C. Van Sanford

    Atreju Guest

    On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:08:48 GMT, "Scott C. Van Sanford"
    <> wrote:

    >Seeking to answer the question
    >"Who Knows Dot Info?"
    >

    SNIPPAGE

    My gawd, you did ramble on now didn't you?

    Sounds to me like you want to start a website where you can either
    charge for access or get advertising revenue, but you want all the
    actual material volunteered to you via a "sharing of information"

    Besides the occasional post on NGs like these, I make my living by
    solving problems for people. Now why would I want to share all my
    expertise for free, so someone else can make money off of it?


    ---Atreju---
     
    Atreju, Aug 11, 2004
    #4
  5. "Blinky the Shark" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Scott C. Van Sanford wrote:
    >
    > > Seeking to answer the question
    > > "Who Knows Dot Info?"

    >
    > > "Who Knows Dot Info" is a 'Virtual Users Group', currently in the

    earliest
    > > stages of formation.


    > [leaving in all of the glorious wordage, because to snip any of it would

    break
    > the delicious light-headed mood it creates in the reader]
    >
    > I'm always looking for interesting software. Is that output from
    > BuzzWordPro, or some other grant-writing program. Whichever is the

    source,
    > does it - before it starts going chuggachugga - allow the user to plug in

    some
    > of his own favorite buzzwords, or is it limited to a hardwired keywords.
    >


    Well, Blinky, thanks ever so much for the compliment!

    I hate to break it to you, but it's not software but 'wet-ware' that wrote
    that, and last I've checked, no one's figured out how to transplant mental
    engrams.

    The only software involved in the production of that text was Word to
    compose it, Outlook Express to post it, and maybe Front Page to massage the
    message's html a tad.

    I've just got a knack for words, being an invenerate punster, and an avid
    etymologist (sp?) (Studier of word origins, not studier of bugs ;)

    > --
    > Blinky Linux Registered User 297263
    >
    > An Important Health Reminder http://snipurl.com/healthyshark
     
    Scott C. Van Sanford, Aug 14, 2004
    #5
  6. "Atreju" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:08:48 GMT, "Scott C. Van Sanford"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    > >Seeking to answer the question
    > >"Who Knows Dot Info?"
    > >

    > SNIPPAGE
    >
    > My gawd, you did ramble on now didn't you?


    (BLUSH!)


    > Sounds to me like you want to start a website where you can either
    > charge for access or get advertising revenue, but you want all the
    > actual material volunteered to you via a "sharing of information"
    >
    > Besides the occasional post on NGs like these, I make my living by
    > solving problems for people. Now why would I want to share all my
    > expertise for free, so someone else can make money off of it?
    >

    I'm simply looking to aid folks like you and me, both in finding the info we
    need, and in being found by those who need our expertise.

    The only profit driven aspect of the project would be FAAAR down the line
    in, as my initial message worded it, "eventually providing a programatic
    help desk serving to guide users to the appropriate fix-oriented knowledge
    bases and help desks across the internet."

    Because I figure it's about time we started trying to get the COMPUTERS to
    do the tedious, mind deadeningly dull part of Computer Technical Support, or
    at least doing their fair share of helping us techie types do it...

    However there is much more work to be done before we can rest on our
    laurels, much less hang them up in retirement, having yielded the basic work
    of supporting computers to other supporting computers.

    >
    > ---Atreju---
    >
     
    Scott C. Van Sanford, Aug 14, 2004
    #6
  7. Scott C. Van Sanford wrote:

    > "Blinky the Shark" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Scott C. Van Sanford wrote:


    >> > Seeking to answer the question
    >> > "Who Knows Dot Info?"


    >> > "Who Knows Dot Info" is a 'Virtual Users Group', currently in the

    > earliest
    >> > stages of formation.


    >> [leaving in all of the glorious wordage, because to snip any of it would

    > break
    >> the delicious light-headed mood it creates in the reader]


    >> I'm always looking for interesting software. Is that output from
    >> BuzzWordPro, or some other grant-writing program. Whichever is the

    > source,
    >> does it - before it starts going chuggachugga - allow the user to plug in

    > some
    >> of his own favorite buzzwords, or is it limited to a hardwired keywords.


    > Well, Blinky, thanks ever so much for the compliment!


    Oh, you're quite welcome, albeit we don't seem to share the same
    definition of "compliment".

    > I've just got a knack for words, being an invenerate punster, and an avid
    > etymologist (sp?) (Studier of word origins, not studier of bugs ;)


    Yes, "etymologist" and "entomologist" aren't the same.

    --
    Blinky Linux Registered User 297263

    An Important Health Reminder http://snipurl.com/healthyshark
     
    Blinky the Shark, Aug 14, 2004
    #7
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