Security Breaches Pandemic - Deloitte Touche 2006 Global Security Survey

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    A nice summary of the Deloitte Touche 2006 Global Security Survey, and
    links to the Survey, and other articles that cover the survey. Deloitte
    survey of 150 companies in technology, media, telecommunications ...
    more than half reported Security Breaches in the past 12 month; 48% via
    spyware / malware; 50% of respondents reported internal breaches.. Read
    More:

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    , Jun 27, 2006
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    wrote:

    > http://www.xml-dev.com/lurker/message/20060626.180450.06d9ec20.en.html
    >
    > A nice summary of the Deloitte Touche 2006 Global Security Survey, and
    > links to the Survey, and other articles that cover the survey. Deloitte
    > survey of 150 companies in technology, media, telecommunications ...
    > more than half reported Security Breaches in the past 12 month; 48% via
    > spyware / malware; 50% of respondents reported internal breaches.. Read
    > More:
    >
    > http://www.xml-dev.com/lurker/message/20060626.180450.06d9ec20.en.html


    I believe it. God I am glad I use Linux both at work and at home...

    Imhotep

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    imhotep, Jun 27, 2006
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  4. B. Nice Guest

    On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 01:13:54 -0400, imhotep <>
    wrote:

    > wrote:
    >
    >> http://www.xml-dev.com/lurker/message/20060626.180450.06d9ec20.en.html
    >>
    >> A nice summary of the Deloitte Touche 2006 Global Security Survey, and
    >> links to the Survey, and other articles that cover the survey. Deloitte
    >> survey of 150 companies in technology, media, telecommunications ...
    >> more than half reported Security Breaches in the past 12 month; 48% via
    >> spyware / malware; 50% of respondents reported internal breaches.. Read
    >> More:
    >>
    >> http://www.xml-dev.com/lurker/message/20060626.180450.06d9ec20.en.html

    >
    >I believe it. God I am glad I use Linux both at work and at home...
    >
    >Imhotep


    I bet the reasons for these problems are mainly due to lousy security
    policies and the implementation (or lack) of same.
     
    B. Nice, Jun 27, 2006
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  5. imhotep Guest

    B. Nice wrote:

    > On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 01:13:54 -0400, imhotep <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> http://www.xml-dev.com/lurker/message/20060626.180450.06d9ec20.en.html
    >>>
    >>> A nice summary of the Deloitte Touche 2006 Global Security Survey, and
    >>> links to the Survey, and other articles that cover the survey. Deloitte
    >>> survey of 150 companies in technology, media, telecommunications ...
    >>> more than half reported Security Breaches in the past 12 month; 48% via
    >>> spyware / malware; 50% of respondents reported internal breaches.. Read
    >>> More:
    >>>
    >>> http://www.xml-dev.com/lurker/message/20060626.180450.06d9ec20.en.html

    >>
    >>I believe it. God I am glad I use Linux both at work and at home...
    >>
    >>Imhotep

    >
    > I bet the reasons for these problems are mainly due to lousy security
    > policies and the implementation (or lack) of same.


    ....these and also the fact that Microsoft has dropped the ball so many times
    with security on the Windows platform that the current spyware/malware has
    become an epidemic....

    Go Mac, Go Linux, Go with anything that is safer than Windblows...

    Imhotep

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    imhotep, Jun 27, 2006
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  6. B. Nice Guest

    On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:49:59 -0400, imhotep <>
    wrote:

    >B. Nice wrote:
    >
    >> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 01:13:54 -0400, imhotep <>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> http://www.xml-dev.com/lurker/message/20060626.180450.06d9ec20.en.html
    >>>>
    >>>> A nice summary of the Deloitte Touche 2006 Global Security Survey, and
    >>>> links to the Survey, and other articles that cover the survey. Deloitte
    >>>> survey of 150 companies in technology, media, telecommunications ...
    >>>> more than half reported Security Breaches in the past 12 month; 48% via
    >>>> spyware / malware; 50% of respondents reported internal breaches.. Read
    >>>> More:
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.xml-dev.com/lurker/message/20060626.180450.06d9ec20.en.html
    >>>
    >>>I believe it. God I am glad I use Linux both at work and at home...
    >>>
    >>>Imhotep

    >>
    >> I bet the reasons for these problems are mainly due to lousy security
    >> policies and the implementation (or lack) of same.

    >
    >...these and also the fact that Microsoft has dropped the ball so many times
    >with security on the Windows platform that the current spyware/malware has
    >become an epidemic....
    >
    >Go Mac, Go Linux, Go with anything that is safer than Windblows...
    >
    >Imhotep


    I would'nt say I fully disagree. But on the other hand, if I were to
    code some malware, I would definately go for the most widespread
    target.

    It's not just what tool You use, but also how You use it.
     
    B. Nice, Jun 27, 2006
    #6
  7. imhotep Guest

    B. Nice wrote:

    > On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:49:59 -0400, imhotep <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>B. Nice wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 01:13:54 -0400, imhotep <>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> http://www.xml-dev.com/lurker/message/20060626.180450.06d9ec20.en.html
    >>>>>
    >>>>> A nice summary of the Deloitte Touche 2006 Global Security Survey, and
    >>>>> links to the Survey, and other articles that cover the survey.
    >>>>> Deloitte survey of 150 companies in technology, media,
    >>>>> telecommunications ... more than half reported Security Breaches in
    >>>>> the past 12 month; 48% via spyware / malware; 50% of respondents
    >>>>> reported internal breaches.. Read More:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://www.xml-dev.com/lurker/message/20060626.180450.06d9ec20.en.html
    >>>>
    >>>>I believe it. God I am glad I use Linux both at work and at home...
    >>>>
    >>>>Imhotep
    >>>
    >>> I bet the reasons for these problems are mainly due to lousy security
    >>> policies and the implementation (or lack) of same.

    >>
    >>...these and also the fact that Microsoft has dropped the ball so many
    >>times with security on the Windows platform that the current
    >>spyware/malware has become an epidemic....
    >>
    >>Go Mac, Go Linux, Go with anything that is safer than Windblows...
    >>
    >>Imhotep

    >
    > I would'nt say I fully disagree. But on the other hand, if I were to
    > code some malware, I would definately go for the most widespread
    > target.


    I hear this from a lot people trying desperately to ignore the Microsoft
    plague, the excuse of it being hacked so much because of popularity. First,
    the last number I as was 88% to 92% PC running MS. When why are
    99.999999999% of the viruses/malware/crapware Windows only? It would follow
    from your excuse that 88% to 92% would be windows only. Also, then why
    not "code" in java since all modern OSes have it installed?

    There are many reasons why Microsoft, and Microsoft only, are being plagued
    by this:

    1) Microsoft and their partners make money, and a lot of it, from selling
    you anti-spyware, anti-virus, etc.

    2) Most people are stupid and take the abuse without researching other
    solutions.

    3) Microsoft cares more about the marketing of their products than the
    security of their products

    4) There are always brain washed idiots who will say "It is not Microsoft's
    fault, it is because their products as so popular" and these people,
    amazingly, really believe it!


    Think about it,
    Imhotop

    > It's not just what tool You use, but also how You use it.


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    imhotep, Jun 28, 2006
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  8. B. Nice Guest

    On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:36:47 -0400, imhotep <>
    wrote:

    >B. Nice wrote:
    >
    >> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:49:59 -0400, imhotep <>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>B. Nice wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 01:13:54 -0400, imhotep <>
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> http://www.xml-dev.com/lurker/message/20060626.180450.06d9ec20.en.html
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> A nice summary of the Deloitte Touche 2006 Global Security Survey, and
    >>>>>> links to the Survey, and other articles that cover the survey.
    >>>>>> Deloitte survey of 150 companies in technology, media,
    >>>>>> telecommunications ... more than half reported Security Breaches in
    >>>>>> the past 12 month; 48% via spyware / malware; 50% of respondents
    >>>>>> reported internal breaches.. Read More:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> http://www.xml-dev.com/lurker/message/20060626.180450.06d9ec20.en.html
    >>>>>
    >>>>>I believe it. God I am glad I use Linux both at work and at home...
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Imhotep
    >>>>
    >>>> I bet the reasons for these problems are mainly due to lousy security
    >>>> policies and the implementation (or lack) of same.
    >>>
    >>>...these and also the fact that Microsoft has dropped the ball so many
    >>>times with security on the Windows platform that the current
    >>>spyware/malware has become an epidemic....
    >>>
    >>>Go Mac, Go Linux, Go with anything that is safer than Windblows...
    >>>
    >>>Imhotep

    >>
    >> I would'nt say I fully disagree. But on the other hand, if I were to
    >> code some malware, I would definately go for the most widespread
    >> target.

    >
    >I hear this from a lot people trying desperately to ignore the Microsoft
    >plague, the excuse of it being hacked so much because of popularity. First,
    >the last number I as was 88% to 92% PC running MS. When why are
    >99.999999999% of the viruses/malware/crapware Windows only? It would follow
    >from your excuse that 88% to 92% would be windows only.


    No, You can't derive that from it.

    >There are many reasons why Microsoft, and Microsoft only, are being plagued
    >by this:
    >
    >1) Microsoft and their partners make money, and a lot of it, from selling
    >you anti-spyware, anti-virus, etc.


    There is a big market for anti-matter, yes. There is also a big market
    for horoscopes.

    >2) Most people are stupid and take the abuse without researching other
    >solutions.


    Most people generally buy a lot of crap, I agree.

    >3) Microsoft cares more about the marketing of their products than the
    >security of their products


    As You imply, MS must adapt to the market. They have to find the
    optimal balance between security and usability in their products. Like
    it or not. Market terms seldom result in superb products. As long as
    there are alternatives, I don't care. One can't fight stupidity.

    >4) There are always brain washed idiots who will say "It is not Microsoft's
    >fault, it is because their products as so popular" and these people,
    >amazingly, really believe it!


    And there are idiots who believe that if 90% used Linux the
    virus/malware/crapware guys would still hit on the MS products.

    >Think about it,
    >Imhotop
    >
    >> It's not just what tool You use, but also how You use it.
     
    B. Nice, Jun 28, 2006
    #8
  9. imhotep Guest

    B. Nice wrote:

    > On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:36:47 -0400, imhotep <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>B. Nice wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:49:59 -0400, imhotep <>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>B. Nice wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 01:13:54 -0400, imhotep <>
    >>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>

    http://www.xml-dev.com/lurker/message/20060626.180450.06d9ec20.en.html
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> A nice summary of the Deloitte Touche 2006 Global Security Survey,
    >>>>>>> and links to the Survey, and other articles that cover the survey.
    >>>>>>> Deloitte survey of 150 companies in technology, media,
    >>>>>>> telecommunications ... more than half reported Security Breaches in
    >>>>>>> the past 12 month; 48% via spyware / malware; 50% of respondents
    >>>>>>> reported internal breaches.. Read More:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>

    http://www.xml-dev.com/lurker/message/20060626.180450.06d9ec20.en.html
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>I believe it. God I am glad I use Linux both at work and at home...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Imhotep
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I bet the reasons for these problems are mainly due to lousy security
    >>>>> policies and the implementation (or lack) of same.
    >>>>
    >>>>...these and also the fact that Microsoft has dropped the ball so many
    >>>>times with security on the Windows platform that the current
    >>>>spyware/malware has become an epidemic....
    >>>>
    >>>>Go Mac, Go Linux, Go with anything that is safer than Windblows...
    >>>>
    >>>>Imhotep
    >>>
    >>> I would'nt say I fully disagree. But on the other hand, if I were to
    >>> code some malware, I would definately go for the most widespread
    >>> target.

    >>
    >>I hear this from a lot people trying desperately to ignore the Microsoft
    >>plague, the excuse of it being hacked so much because of popularity.
    >>First, the last number I as was 88% to 92% PC running MS. When why are
    >>99.999999999% of the viruses/malware/crapware Windows only? It would
    >>follow from your excuse that 88% to 92% would be windows only.

    >
    > No, You can't derive that from it.
    >
    >>There are many reasons why Microsoft, and Microsoft only, are being
    >>plagued by this:
    >>
    >>1) Microsoft and their partners make money, and a lot of it, from selling
    >>you anti-spyware, anti-virus, etc.

    >
    > There is a big market for anti-matter, yes. There is also a big market
    > for horoscopes.


    Please...Fact is a fact MS and their partners make billions of dollars on
    this. Why do you think they would want to fix the crapware problem and risk
    losing such a profitable cash cow?

    >>2) Most people are stupid and take the abuse without researching other
    >>solutions.

    >
    > Most people generally buy a lot of crap, I agree.
    >
    >>3) Microsoft cares more about the marketing of their products than the
    >>security of their products

    >
    > As You imply, MS must adapt to the market. They have to find the
    > optimal balance between security and usability in their products. Like
    > it or not. Market terms seldom result in superb products. As long as
    > there are alternatives, I don't care. One can't fight stupidity.


    Clearly, and even you must agree, the MS marketing causes a lot of Microsoft
    problems....

    >>4) There are always brain washed idiots who will say "It is not
    >>Microsoft's fault, it is because their products as so popular" and these
    >>people, amazingly, really believe it!

    >
    > And there are idiots who believe that if 90% used Linux the
    > virus/malware/crapware guys would still hit on the MS products.


    Only an idiot would deny the obvious. VIRUSES, MALWARE, SPYWARE, AND GENERAL
    CRAPWARE ARE A MICROSOFT PROBLEM. Why? Because it is just too damn easy!!!

    >>Think about it,
    >>Imhotop
    >>
    >>> It's not just what tool You use, but also how You use it.


    ....when your tool is inadequate, get a different one instead of denying the
    obvious...

    -- Imhotep

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    imhotep, Jun 28, 2006
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  10. B. Nice Guest

    On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:50:06 -0400, imhotep <>
    wrote:

    >>>4) There are always brain washed idiots who will say "It is not
    >>>Microsoft's fault, it is because their products as so popular" and these
    >>>people, amazingly, really believe it!

    >>
    >> And there are idiots who believe that if 90% used Linux the
    >> virus/malware/crapware guys would still hit on the MS products.

    >
    >Only an idiot would deny the obvious. VIRUSES, MALWARE, SPYWARE, AND GENERAL
    >CRAPWARE ARE A MICROSOFT PROBLEM. Why? Because it is just too damn easy!!!


    Fine. Then continue to consider me an idiot. I don't care. As long as
    the weakest point obviously is the user itself, I don't buy your
    "argument".
     
    B. Nice, Jun 28, 2006
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  11. imhotep Guest

    B. Nice wrote:

    > On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:50:06 -0400, imhotep <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>>>4) There are always brain washed idiots who will say "It is not
    >>>>Microsoft's fault, it is because their products as so popular" and these
    >>>>people, amazingly, really believe it!
    >>>
    >>> And there are idiots who believe that if 90% used Linux the
    >>> virus/malware/crapware guys would still hit on the MS products.

    >>
    >>Only an idiot would deny the obvious. VIRUSES, MALWARE, SPYWARE, AND
    >>GENERAL CRAPWARE ARE A MICROSOFT PROBLEM. Why? Because it is just too damn
    >>easy!!!

    >
    > Fine. Then continue to consider me an idiot. I don't care. As long as
    > the weakest point obviously is the user itself, I don't buy your
    > "argument".



    ...don't consider you an idiot. However, the frequently used "blame the user"
    excused is simply overused in the Microsoft IT World when the platform must
    share some of the responsibility.

    Imhotep
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    imhotep, Jun 28, 2006
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  12. Nomen Nescio Guest

    Re: Security Breaches Pandemic - Deloitte Touche 2006 Global Security Survey

    B. Nice wrote:

    > On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:50:06 -0400, imhotep <>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >>>4) There are always brain washed idiots who will say "It is not
    > >>>Microsoft's fault, it is because their products as so popular" and
    > >>>these people, amazingly, really believe it!
    > >>
    > >> And there are idiots who believe that if 90% used Linux the
    > >> virus/malware/crapware guys would still hit on the MS products.

    > >
    > >Only an idiot would deny the obvious. VIRUSES, MALWARE, SPYWARE, AND
    > >GENERAL CRAPWARE ARE A MICROSOFT PROBLEM. Why? Because it is just
    > >too damn easy!!!

    >
    > Fine. Then continue to consider me an idiot. I don't care. As long as
    > the weakest point obviously is the user itself, I don't buy your
    > "argument".


    Users always being the weakest point isn't obvious at all. Highly
    skilled users, even specialists, get compromised every day.

    There really are some basic, inherent qualities about most Windows
    versions that make it easier to compromise. And easier to do widespread
    mayhem with once you have.
     
    Nomen Nescio, Jun 28, 2006
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  13. Re: Security Breaches Pandemic - Deloitte Touche 2006 Global SecuritySurvey

    Nomen Nescio wrote:

    > Users always being the weakest point isn't obvious at all. Highly
    > skilled users, even specialists, get compromised every day.
    >
    > There really are some basic, inherent qualities about most Windows
    > versions that make it easier to compromise. And easier to do widespread
    > mayhem with once you have.


    May I name it: complexity.

    Oh, and well, the lack of any access control limitation on the WinDOS
    variants. But a skilled user wouldn't consider using those at all.
     
    Sebastian Gottschalk, Jun 28, 2006
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