RTM 64-bit Server 2003 NIC issues

Discussion in 'Windows 64bit' started by Mickey Lane, Jul 19, 2005.

  1. Mickey Lane

    Mickey Lane Guest

    This message is about getting a test machine up using RTM Server 2003
    64-bit.

    Hardware: Asus K8v Deluxe (not the SE version). The on-board ethernet
    port worked on a beta version of XP 64-bit (w/hacked driver) and on a
    64-bit Linux version. At some point it broke. Drivers would see it but
    it would not talk over the wire. I have been using PCI NICs to network
    32-bit OS versions ever since.

    With RTM Server 2003 out, I'd like to go back to 64-bit.

    OS: Server 2003 64-bit version (the currently downloadable bits I
    think) "About" shows Version 5.2 (Build 3790.srv03_sp1_rtm.050324-1447
    : Service Pack 1)

    With above OS, I am unable to find any combination of driver and a
    half dozen or so different PCI NICs that work. I re-enabled the broken
    onboard interface just to see if the OS would load a driver for it.
    Checked Asus's site and installed the latest stuff marked AMD64. No
    luck.

    Question: Anybody know what brand/model NIC (for PCI bus) I should buy
    to make this box work? 10/100 mbs is good.

    So far, I haven't seen any indication that this OS release has *any*
    network drivers in it. (Device manager, choose from list, network
    adaptor = empty list)

    I'm aware of the 'decorated inf' issue but rather not hack another
    driver/inf. Is there anything out-of-the-box that works?

    Suggestions welcomed
    Regards,
    Mickey.
     
    Mickey Lane, Jul 19, 2005
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  2. Mickey Lane

    Mickey Lane Guest

    Re my comment below...

    Found a machine with a Realtec 8139 in it. Swapped it to the AMD 64-bit
    machine and it works without any setup issues.



    "Mickey Lane" <> wrote in message
    news:<>...

    > This message is about getting a test machine up using RTM Server 2003


    > 64-bit.


    >


    [...]

    >


    > So far, I haven't seen any indication that this OS release has *any*
    > network drivers in it. (Device manager, choose from list, network adaptor
    > = empty list)
     
    Mickey Lane, Jul 19, 2005
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  3. Yes, the RealTek works fine OOB. As does any Broadcom based NIC, and I'm
    pretty sure that Marvel based ones work OOB as well. If not, I know there are
    drivers available for those.

    You should contact ASUS support. I just finished swapping out a motherboard
    with them that had a bad NIC. They make it fairly painless to cross-ship a
    replacement board. (But they're extremely fussy about physical damage to the
    mobo, so make sure you haven't munged yours.)


    --
    Please, all replies to the newsgroup.
    ======================
    Charlie.
    http://www.msmvps.com/xperts64/


    Mickey Lane wrote:
    > Re my comment below...
    >
    > Found a machine with a Realtec 8139 in it. Swapped it to the AMD
    > 64-bit machine and it works without any setup issues.
    >
    >
    >
    > "Mickey Lane" <> wrote in message
    > news:<>...
    >
    >> This message is about getting a test machine up using RTM Server 2003

    >
    >> 64-bit.

    >
    >>

    >
    > [...]
    >
    >>

    >
    >> So far, I haven't seen any indication that this OS release has *any*
    >> network drivers in it. (Device manager, choose from list, network
    >> adaptor = empty list)
     
    Charlie Russel - MVP, Jul 19, 2005
    #3
  4. Roger the Marvels.

    "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Yes, the RealTek works fine OOB. As does any Broadcom based NIC, and I'm
    > pretty sure that Marvel based ones work OOB as well. If not, I know there
    > are drivers available for those.
    >
    > You should contact ASUS support. I just finished swapping out a
    > motherboard with them that had a bad NIC. They make it fairly painless to
    > cross-ship a replacement board. (But they're extremely fussy about
    > physical damage to the mobo, so make sure you haven't munged yours.)
    >
    >
    > --
    > Please, all replies to the newsgroup.
    > ======================
    > Charlie.
    > http://www.msmvps.com/xperts64/
    >
    >
    > Mickey Lane wrote:
    >> Re my comment below...
    >>
    >> Found a machine with a Realtec 8139 in it. Swapped it to the AMD
    >> 64-bit machine and it works without any setup issues.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> "Mickey Lane" <> wrote in message
    >> news:<>...
    >>
    >>> This message is about getting a test machine up using RTM Server 2003

    >>
    >>> 64-bit.

    >>
    >>>

    >>
    >> [...]
    >>
    >>>

    >>
    >>> So far, I haven't seen any indication that this OS release has *any*
    >>> network drivers in it. (Device manager, choose from list, network
    >>> adaptor = empty list)

    >
    >
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 19, 2005
    #4
  5. Mickey Lane

    Mickey Lane Guest

    re Marvels...

    The Asus support site for the K8v deluxe has a file for Marvel and 64-bit
    server 2003. It's about 5 mbyte. Name is "Marvel_64(WHQL).zip dated 17 may
    2005.
    I applied that to my system with the bad onboard NIC and it doesn't want to
    work. (Bad = wire interface, not CPU interface) I'm not certain but I think
    Asus is distributing this for K8v, K8v Deluxe & K8v SE Deluxe.

    FWIW, I've seen a number of comments about drivers that worked on beta
    64-bit versions that don't work on the release.Unfortunatly, I'm suffering
    from information overload at the moment and have no clue where I picked up
    these tidbits. :-(

    Regards,
    Mickey.

    "Colin Barnhorst" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Roger the Marvels.
    >
    > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Yes, the RealTek works fine OOB. As does any Broadcom based NIC, and I'm
    >> pretty sure that Marvel based ones work OOB as well. If not, I know there
    >> are drivers available for those.
    >>
    >> You should contact ASUS support. I just finished swapping out a
    >> motherboard with them that had a bad NIC. They make it fairly painless to
    >> cross-ship a replacement board. (But they're extremely fussy about
    >> physical damage to the mobo, so make sure you haven't munged yours.)
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> Please, all replies to the newsgroup.
    >> ======================
    >> Charlie.
    >> http://www.msmvps.com/xperts64/
    >>
    >>
    >> Mickey Lane wrote:
    >>> Re my comment below...
    >>>
    >>> Found a machine with a Realtec 8139 in it. Swapped it to the AMD
    >>> 64-bit machine and it works without any setup issues.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Mickey Lane" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:<>...
    >>>
    >>>> This message is about getting a test machine up using RTM Server 2003
    >>>
    >>>> 64-bit.
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> [...]
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>> So far, I haven't seen any indication that this OS release has *any*
    >>>> network drivers in it. (Device manager, choose from list, network
    >>>> adaptor = empty list)

    >>
    >>

    >
    >
     
    Mickey Lane, Jul 19, 2005
    #5
  6. Mickey Lane

    wewa Guest

    Running a Dell motherboard with Xeon and Intel onboard NIC:
    Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Server Connection

    Could not get a driver in early version x64 build back in December until i
    posted help here, (actually the former incarnation of this NG, -
    private.64bit) and someone suggested a beta compaq driver download that
    worked. Cool.

    Now detected natively and working fine since.

    Do you know for sure if the onboard is broke? what chipset is it based on?
    Realtek? Broadcom? Intel?
    You can run everest home edition and find out if you're not sure:
    http://www.lavalys.com/products/overview.php?pid=1&lang=en



    "Mickey Lane" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > This message is about getting a test machine up using RTM Server 2003
    > 64-bit.
    >
    > Hardware: Asus K8v Deluxe (not the SE version). The on-board ethernet
    > port worked on a beta version of XP 64-bit (w/hacked driver) and on a
    > 64-bit Linux version. At some point it broke. Drivers would see it but
    > it would not talk over the wire. I have been using PCI NICs to network
    > 32-bit OS versions ever since.
    >
    > With RTM Server 2003 out, I'd like to go back to 64-bit.
    >
    > OS: Server 2003 64-bit version (the currently downloadable bits I
    > think) "About" shows Version 5.2 (Build 3790.srv03_sp1_rtm.050324-1447
    > : Service Pack 1)
    >
    > With above OS, I am unable to find any combination of driver and a
    > half dozen or so different PCI NICs that work. I re-enabled the broken
    > onboard interface just to see if the OS would load a driver for it.
    > Checked Asus's site and installed the latest stuff marked AMD64. No
    > luck.
    >
    > Question: Anybody know what brand/model NIC (for PCI bus) I should buy
    > to make this box work? 10/100 mbs is good.
    >
    > So far, I haven't seen any indication that this OS release has *any*
    > network drivers in it. (Device manager, choose from list, network
    > adaptor = empty list)
    >
    > I'm aware of the 'decorated inf' issue but rather not hack another
    > driver/inf. Is there anything out-of-the-box that works?
    >
    > Suggestions welcomed
    > Regards,
    > Mickey.
    >
    >
     
    wewa, Jul 19, 2005
    #6
  7. The issues with "worked in beta, doesn't work in RTM were primarily to do
    with storage drivers.

    --
    Please, all replies to the newsgroup.
    ======================
    Charlie.
    http://www.msmvps.com/xperts64/


    Mickey Lane wrote:
    > re Marvels...
    >
    > The Asus support site for the K8v deluxe has a file for Marvel and
    > 64-bit server 2003. It's about 5 mbyte. Name is "Marvel_64(WHQL).zip
    > dated 17 may 2005.
    > I applied that to my system with the bad onboard NIC and it doesn't
    > want to work. (Bad = wire interface, not CPU interface) I'm not
    > certain but I think Asus is distributing this for K8v, K8v Deluxe &
    > K8v SE Deluxe.
    > FWIW, I've seen a number of comments about drivers that worked on beta
    > 64-bit versions that don't work on the release.Unfortunatly, I'm
    > suffering from information overload at the moment and have no clue
    > where I picked up these tidbits. :-(
    >
    > Regards,
    > Mickey.
    >
    > "Colin Barnhorst" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Roger the Marvels.
    >>
    >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in
    >> message news:...
    >>> Yes, the RealTek works fine OOB. As does any Broadcom based NIC,
    >>> and I'm pretty sure that Marvel based ones work OOB as well. If
    >>> not, I know there are drivers available for those.
    >>>
    >>> You should contact ASUS support. I just finished swapping out a
    >>> motherboard with them that had a bad NIC. They make it fairly
    >>> painless to cross-ship a replacement board. (But they're extremely
    >>> fussy about physical damage to the mobo, so make sure you haven't
    >>> munged yours.) --
    >>> Please, all replies to the newsgroup.
    >>> ======================
    >>> Charlie.
    >>> http://www.msmvps.com/xperts64/
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Mickey Lane wrote:
    >>>> Re my comment below...
    >>>>
    >>>> Found a machine with a Realtec 8139 in it. Swapped it to the AMD
    >>>> 64-bit machine and it works without any setup issues.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "Mickey Lane" <> wrote in message
    >>>> news:<>...
    >>>>
    >>>>> This message is about getting a test machine up using RTM Server
    >>>>> 2003
    >>>>
    >>>>> 64-bit.
    >>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> [...]
    >>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>> So far, I haven't seen any indication that this OS release has
    >>>>> *any* network drivers in it. (Device manager, choose from list,
    >>>>> network adaptor = empty list)
     
    Charlie Russel - MVP, Jul 19, 2005
    #7
  8. Mickey Lane

    John Barnes Guest

    Most were because of lack of decoration that wasn't required in beta but is
    required in RTM


    "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message
    news:%...
    > The issues with "worked in beta, doesn't work in RTM were primarily to do
    > with storage drivers.
    >
    > --
    > Please, all replies to the newsgroup.
    > ======================
    > Charlie.
    > http://www.msmvps.com/xperts64/
    >
    >
    > Mickey Lane wrote:
    >> re Marvels...
    >>
    >> The Asus support site for the K8v deluxe has a file for Marvel and
    >> 64-bit server 2003. It's about 5 mbyte. Name is "Marvel_64(WHQL).zip
    >> dated 17 may 2005.
    >> I applied that to my system with the bad onboard NIC and it doesn't
    >> want to work. (Bad = wire interface, not CPU interface) I'm not
    >> certain but I think Asus is distributing this for K8v, K8v Deluxe &
    >> K8v SE Deluxe.
    >> FWIW, I've seen a number of comments about drivers that worked on beta
    >> 64-bit versions that don't work on the release.Unfortunatly, I'm
    >> suffering from information overload at the moment and have no clue
    >> where I picked up these tidbits. :-(
    >>
    >> Regards,
    >> Mickey.
    >>
    >> "Colin Barnhorst" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>> Roger the Marvels.
    >>>
    >>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in
    >>> message news:...
    >>>> Yes, the RealTek works fine OOB. As does any Broadcom based NIC,
    >>>> and I'm pretty sure that Marvel based ones work OOB as well. If
    >>>> not, I know there are drivers available for those.
    >>>>
    >>>> You should contact ASUS support. I just finished swapping out a
    >>>> motherboard with them that had a bad NIC. They make it fairly
    >>>> painless to cross-ship a replacement board. (But they're extremely
    >>>> fussy about physical damage to the mobo, so make sure you haven't
    >>>> munged yours.) --
    >>>> Please, all replies to the newsgroup.
    >>>> ======================
    >>>> Charlie.
    >>>> http://www.msmvps.com/xperts64/
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Mickey Lane wrote:
    >>>>> Re my comment below...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Found a machine with a Realtec 8139 in it. Swapped it to the AMD
    >>>>> 64-bit machine and it works without any setup issues.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "Mickey Lane" <> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:<>...
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> This message is about getting a test machine up using RTM Server
    >>>>>> 2003
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> 64-bit.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> [...]
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> So far, I haven't seen any indication that this OS release has
    >>>>>> *any* network drivers in it. (Device manager, choose from list,
    >>>>>> network adaptor = empty list)

    >
    >
     
    John Barnes, Jul 19, 2005
    #8
  9. Microsoft needs to put RTM software into beta from now on. Its really
    strange when it works during the beta then stops working at RTM.
    --
    Andre
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    "John Barnes" <> wrote in message
    news:%23qF3t$...
    > Most were because of lack of decoration that wasn't required in beta but
    > is required in RTM
    >
    >
    > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message
    > news:%...
    >> The issues with "worked in beta, doesn't work in RTM were primarily to do
    >> with storage drivers.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Please, all replies to the newsgroup.
    >> ======================
    >> Charlie.
    >> http://www.msmvps.com/xperts64/
    >>
    >>
    >> Mickey Lane wrote:
    >>> re Marvels...
    >>>
    >>> The Asus support site for the K8v deluxe has a file for Marvel and
    >>> 64-bit server 2003. It's about 5 mbyte. Name is "Marvel_64(WHQL).zip
    >>> dated 17 may 2005.
    >>> I applied that to my system with the bad onboard NIC and it doesn't
    >>> want to work. (Bad = wire interface, not CPU interface) I'm not
    >>> certain but I think Asus is distributing this for K8v, K8v Deluxe &
    >>> K8v SE Deluxe.
    >>> FWIW, I've seen a number of comments about drivers that worked on beta
    >>> 64-bit versions that don't work on the release.Unfortunatly, I'm
    >>> suffering from information overload at the moment and have no clue
    >>> where I picked up these tidbits. :-(
    >>>
    >>> Regards,
    >>> Mickey.
    >>>
    >>> "Colin Barnhorst" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:...
    >>>> Roger the Marvels.
    >>>>
    >>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in
    >>>> message news:...
    >>>>> Yes, the RealTek works fine OOB. As does any Broadcom based NIC,
    >>>>> and I'm pretty sure that Marvel based ones work OOB as well. If
    >>>>> not, I know there are drivers available for those.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> You should contact ASUS support. I just finished swapping out a
    >>>>> motherboard with them that had a bad NIC. They make it fairly
    >>>>> painless to cross-ship a replacement board. (But they're extremely
    >>>>> fussy about physical damage to the mobo, so make sure you haven't
    >>>>> munged yours.) --
    >>>>> Please, all replies to the newsgroup.
    >>>>> ======================
    >>>>> Charlie.
    >>>>> http://www.msmvps.com/xperts64/
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Mickey Lane wrote:
    >>>>>> Re my comment below...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Found a machine with a Realtec 8139 in it. Swapped it to the AMD
    >>>>>> 64-bit machine and it works without any setup issues.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "Mickey Lane" <> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:<>...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> This message is about getting a test machine up using RTM Server
    >>>>>>> 2003
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> 64-bit.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> [...]
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> So far, I haven't seen any indication that this OS release has
    >>>>>>> *any* network drivers in it. (Device manager, choose from list,
    >>>>>>> network adaptor = empty list)

    >>
    >>

    >
    >
     
    Andre Da Costa [Extended64], Jul 20, 2005
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