Rogue E-mails

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by kipper, Jun 17, 2010.

  1. kipper

    kipper Guest

    My brothers computer seems to have picked up a bug of some sort and i
    keep receiving e-mails from him but the only text is a web address
    which sell pills such as viagra. I've had three of these and the web
    addresses are all different. Does anyone know what causes this please
    and how to get rid of it?
     
    kipper, Jun 17, 2010
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  2. kipper

    Mike Easter Guest

    kipper wrote:
    > My brothers computer seems to have picked up a bug of some sort and i
    > keep receiving e-mails from him but the only text is a web address
    > which sell pills such as viagra. I've had three of these and the web
    > addresses are all different. Does anyone know what causes this please
    > and how to get rid of it?


    Your description doesn't indicate or assure that you know how this
    particular email/spam is sourced.

    Your description doesn't indicate whether you have any useful strategy
    for filtering spam.

    Spam is caused by spam-generating systems. You get rid of it by
    filtering it. The best way to filter it depends on how you are
    configured to receive your mail and get rid of your spam.

    You are posting via GG which means that you have a google account.
    Gmail is an excellent system for filtering spam.

    If you want to figure out if your viagra spam is /actually/ being
    sourced from your brother's computer -- however, it isn't very likely
    that a spam is being sourced from the From address which is normally
    bogus on spam -- you would need to determine the true source, not
    believe/accept the veracity of the From.

    Getting help determining the source of a spam from parsing the email
    headers is something better handled in spamcop newsgroups or perhaps the
    alt.spam group.


    --
    Mike Easter
     
    Mike Easter, Jun 17, 2010
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  3. kipper

    richard Guest

    On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 07:53:22 -0700 (PDT), kipper wrote:

    > My brothers computer seems to have picked up a bug of some sort and i
    > keep receiving e-mails from him but the only text is a web address
    > which sell pills such as viagra. I've had three of these and the web
    > addresses are all different. Does anyone know what causes this please
    > and how to get rid of it?


    It's some pill pusher from china that uses various domains for return mail.
    You can tell because he always includes an attachment for opting out. Which
    is from a china domain. Don't bother. That will only confirm your addy as
    kosher.

    It's nothing you have any control over other than to trash the shit.


    --
    I learned my lesson well. You can't please everyone, so you got to please
    yourself.
    - Ricky Nelson from "Garden Party"
     
    richard, Jun 17, 2010
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  4. kipper

    chuckcar Guest

    kipper <> wrote in news:25412d23-e04e-45fd-816c-
    :

    > My brothers computer seems to have picked up a bug of some sort and i
    > keep receiving e-mails from him but the only text is a web address
    > which sell pills such as viagra. I've had three of these and the web
    > addresses are all different. Does anyone know what causes this please
    > and how to get rid of it?


    He's obviously infected with some trojan. Have him a) scan *all* his files
    on his computer with a malware scanner that has *just* been updated and
    quaranteen *all* infected files. b) learn how *not* to infect his computer
    which includes having a properly set up firewall program that he *knows*
    how to use (the one that comes with MS windows is *not* a proper firewall
    program - have him get either outpost or comodo or zone alarm)and the
    above anti-malware suite for which the same applies.

    Any of the above firewall programs can be found by simply putting their
    name into any browser address bar and pressing enter.

    --
    (setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )
     
    chuckcar, Jun 17, 2010
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  5. kipper

    Jordon Guest

    richard wrote:
    > On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 07:53:22 -0700 (PDT), kipper wrote:
    >
    >> My brothers computer seems to have picked up a bug of some sort and i
    >> keep receiving e-mails from him but the only text is a web address
    >> which sell pills such as viagra. I've had three of these and the web
    >> addresses are all different. Does anyone know what causes this please
    >> and how to get rid of it?

    >
    > It's some pill pusher from china that uses various domains for return mail.
    > You can tell because he always includes an attachment for opting out. Which
    > is from a china domain. Don't bother. That will only confirm your addy as
    > kosher.


    He keeps getting emails from his brother and you claim it's
    someone else using various domain names? WTF?
     
    Jordon, Jun 17, 2010
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  6. kipper

    chuckcar Guest

    Evan Platt <> wrote in
    news::

    > On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:58:14 +0000 (UTC), chuckcar <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>He's obviously infected with some trojan.

    >
    > No. I'd lay odds it's what I already stated - a yahoo phish site and
    > his yahoo account has been comprimised.
    >
    >>Have him a) scan *all* his files on his computer with a malware
    >>scanner that has *just* been updated and quaranteen

    >
    > Taking advice from someone who says to "quaranteen" infected files?
    > Bad idea.


    Taking advice from someone who's never worked in the computer field - worse
    idea.


    --
    (setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )
     
    chuckcar, Jun 17, 2010
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  7. kipper

    Jordon Guest

    Ronald Ray Gun wrote:
    > On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:39:07 -0700, Evan Platt
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >> On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:29:01 -0500, richard<>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 07:53:22 -0700 (PDT), kipper wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> My brothers computer seems to have picked up a bug of some sort and i
    >>>> keep receiving e-mails from him but the only text is a web address
    >>>> which sell pills such as viagra. I've had three of these and the web
    >>>> addresses are all different. Does anyone know what causes this please
    >>>> and how to get rid of it?
    >>>
    >>> It's some pill pusher from china that uses various domains for return mail.
    >>> You can tell because he always includes an attachment for opting out. Which
    >>> is from a china domain. Don't bother. That will only confirm your addy as
    >>> kosher.
    >>>
    >>> It's nothing you have any control over other than to trash the shit.

    >>
    >> Ignore richards advice. Richard is an idiot.
    >>
    >> Are these e-mails by chance coming from your brothers Yahoo e-mail
    >> address? If so, he needs to log into Yahoo and change his password
    >> NOW. He has given out his password to a 'phish' site, and now someone
    >> else is logging onto Yahoo and using your brothers account to spam
    >> everyone in his address book.

    >
    >
    > You really are an ignorant cuss. Nothing was said of what host was
    > being used, yet you assume yahoo. The chinese pill pusher routinely
    > uses any addy that can't be traced to him. Hell, I could send you an
    > email with your ermail as the sending party. The system doesn't give a
    > shit if it came from that addy or not.


    Regardless of what name you use richard, you're still an idiot.
     
    Jordon, Jun 17, 2010
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  8. kipper

    Jordon Guest

    Evan Platt wrote:
    > On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:14:48 -0700, Jordon
    > <jordon@REMOVE~THISmyrealbox.com> wrote:
    >
    >> richard wrote:
    >>> On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 07:53:22 -0700 (PDT), kipper wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> My brothers computer seems to have picked up a bug of some sort and i
    >>>> keep receiving e-mails from him but the only text is a web address
    >>>> which sell pills such as viagra. I've had three of these and the web
    >>>> addresses are all different. Does anyone know what causes this please
    >>>> and how to get rid of it?
    >>>
    >>> It's some pill pusher from china that uses various domains for return mail.
    >>> You can tell because he always includes an attachment for opting out. Which
    >>> is from a china domain. Don't bother. That will only confirm your addy as
    >>> kosher.

    >>
    >> He keeps getting emails from his brother and you claim it's
    >> someone else using various domain names? WTF?

    >
    > An "Attachment" for opting out? I always thought those things were
    > called LINKS.
    >
    > Poor st00pid. He should go back to trucking.


    Shut your mouth!!! I'm in that business.
     
    Jordon, Jun 17, 2010
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  9. kipper

    richard Guest

    On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:14:48 -0700, Jordon wrote:

    > richard wrote:
    >> On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 07:53:22 -0700 (PDT), kipper wrote:
    >>
    >>> My brothers computer seems to have picked up a bug of some sort and i
    >>> keep receiving e-mails from him but the only text is a web address
    >>> which sell pills such as viagra. I've had three of these and the web
    >>> addresses are all different. Does anyone know what causes this please
    >>> and how to get rid of it?

    >>
    >> It's some pill pusher from china that uses various domains for return mail.
    >> You can tell because he always includes an attachment for opting out. Which
    >> is from a china domain. Don't bother. That will only confirm your addy as
    >> kosher.

    >
    > He keeps getting emails from his brother and you claim it's
    > someone else using various domain names? WTF?


    Easily proven. Compare the headers. If they match line for line, it's from
    his machine. If any one line does not match, it's from another source.

    Hell, I've had people use my addy as their return address before.
    That's just a method of avoiding getting screamed at by a pissed off
    recipient.


    The headers quickly showed the mail did not come from my machine or even
    domain.


    --
    I learned my lesson well. You can't please everyone, so you got to please
    yourself.
    - Ricky Nelson from "Garden Party"
     
    richard, Jun 17, 2010
    #9
  10. kipper

    Jordon Guest

    Evan Platt wrote:
    > On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:45:30 -0700, Jordon
    > <jordon@REMOVE~THISmyrealbox.com> wrote:
    >
    >>> Poor st00pid. He should go back to trucking.

    >>
    >> Shut your mouth!!! I'm in that business.

    >
    > I didn't mean that as something bad,


    I know.

    > just that he obviously doesn't
    > know computers. He thinks (??) he knows trucking, so that would be a
    > better fit for him than trying to give computer advice.


    You'd be wrong. His trucking advice isn't any better than
    computer advice. Even when he was actually driving a truck
    his advice in misc.transport.trucking was terrible.

    --
    Jordon
     
    Jordon, Jun 17, 2010
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  11. kipper

    Whiskers Guest

    On 2010-06-17, kipper <> wrote:
    > My brothers computer seems to have picked up a bug of some sort and i
    > keep receiving e-mails from him but the only text is a web address
    > which sell pills such as viagra. I've had three of these and the web
    > addresses are all different. Does anyone know what causes this please
    > and how to get rid of it?


    Are you sure the emails originate on his computer, or from his webmail
    account? It's easy to send an email with any address you want in the
    'From' header, with no need to have access to that person's account. It's
    a common spammer trick to get past spam filters.

    Unless your brother's email account or computer really has been
    compromised, there is nothing he or anyone can or need do. If you can't
    interpret the full headers of the emails yourself, refer them to your own
    email service provider - and/or your brother's.

    The biggest clue is probably in the 'Received' header with the earliest
    time-stamp; is there an IP number in there that relates to your brother's
    internet connection or his webmail provider?

    --
    -- ^^^^^^^^^^
    -- Whiskers
    -- ~~~~~~~~~~
     
    Whiskers, Jun 17, 2010
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  12. kipper

    John Holmes Guest

    Evan Platt "contributed" in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:

    > I've worked in the computer field for
    > over 15 years


    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! And you're still a dumbass nitwit, eh?

    --
    <snip>
     
    John Holmes, Jun 17, 2010
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  13. kipper

    Aardvark Guest

    On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 07:53:22 -0700, kipper wrote:

    > My brothers computer seems to have picked up a bug of some sort and i
    > keep receiving e-mails from him but the only text is a web address which
    > sell pills such as viagra. I've had three of these and the web
    > addresses are all different.


    Aren't you only supposed to take one?

    Have they worked? I'm told they're extremely effective when one suffers
    from erectile dysfunction.

    > Does anyone know what causes this please
    > and how to get rid of it?


    If you took three, I think you just have to wait until it becomes flaccid
    of its own accord.



    --
    I'm Josef Fritzl, and No Windows was my idea.
     
    Aardvark, Jun 17, 2010
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  14. kipper

    Aardvark Guest

    On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:58:14 +0000, chuckcar wrote:

    > quaranteen


    WTF?????



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    I'm Josef Fritzl, and No Windows was my idea.
     
    Aardvark, Jun 17, 2010
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  15. kipper

    Aardvark Guest

    On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:06:56 -0700, Evan Platt wrote:

    > On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:03:02 -0700, Jordon
    > <jordon@REMOVE~THISmyrealbox.com> wrote:
    >
    >>You'd be wrong. His trucking advice isn't any better than computer
    >>advice. Even when he was actually driving a truck his advice in
    >>misc.transport.trucking was terrible.

    >
    > True. Good point. Maybe he should stick to.. Coloring books?


    You think he'd be able to stay within the lines?



    --
    I'm Josef Fritzl, and No Windows was my idea.
     
    Aardvark, Jun 17, 2010
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  16. kipper

    chuckcar Guest

    Evan Platt <> wrote in
    news::

    > On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:26:53 +0000 (UTC), chuckcar <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>Taking advice from someone who's never worked in the computer field -
    >>worse idea.

    >
    > You're right, which is why advice from st00pid should be avoided. But
    > if you were trying to insult me, I've worked in the computer field for
    > over 15 years.



    Nonsence. You couldn't have. Your answers show absolutely no technical
    knowledge on the subject. *If* you were a tech for an ISP, you'd be fired
    for incompetence judging by the answers you've posted here. You have no
    knowledge of the most common Internet problems, absolutely no knowledge of
    the problems of startup. Those two alone remove the possibility of you being
    a tech for either an ISP or for a computer manufacturer. As well, you have
    no idea of how network properties works - removing any possibility you are
    a "networking person" and don't deal with anything else. The only things left
    would be a hardware technician or a programmer, but both of those would have
    *some* idea of the previous facts. Therefore you have *never* worked in a
    dedicated computer job. Further to this your own email states you are a
    photographer by trade. Hardly even computer related in the least.


    --
    (setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )
     
    chuckcar, Jun 17, 2010
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  17. kipper

    chuckcar Guest

    Evan Platt <> wrote in
    news::

    > On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:52:42 -0500, richard <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>Easily proven. Compare the headers. If they match line for line, it's
    >>from his machine. If any one line does not match, it's from another
    >>source.
    >>
    >>Hell, I've had people use my addy as their return address before.
    >>That's just a method of avoiding getting screamed at by a pissed off
    >>recipient.
    >>
    >>
    >>The headers quickly showed the mail did not come from my machine or
    >>even domain.

    >
    > *sigh* Stick to something you know, st00pid. Because it isn't
    > computers.


    So tell us Mr. great computer guru, what is wrong with the above statement
    of his and why?

    --
    (setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )
     
    chuckcar, Jun 17, 2010
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  18. kipper

    Aardvark Guest

    On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:35:42 +0000, chuckcar wrote:

    > Nonsence.


    WTF?????



    --
    I'm Josef Fritzl, and No Windows was my idea.
     
    Aardvark, Jun 18, 2010
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  19. kipper

    chuckcar Guest

    Evan Platt <> wrote in
    news::

    > On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:35:43 +0000 (UTC), chuckcar <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>So tell us Mr. great computer guru, what is wrong with the above
    >>statement of his and why?

    >
    > OP:
    >
    > "I keep receiving e-mails from him (brother)"
    > your boyfriend, richard:
    > "It's some pill pusher from china that uses various domains for return
    > mail."
    >
    > If you really don't see the problem, maybe you should ask an adult to
    > help you out.


    Wrong statement. The statement in question - the one *you* replied to -
    was:

    Easily proven. Compare the headers. If they match line for line, it's from
    his machine. If any one line does not match, it's from another source.

    Hell, I've had people use my addy as their return address before.
    That's just a method of avoiding getting screamed at by a pissed off
    recipient.


    The headers quickly showed the mail did not come from my machine or even
    domain.

    Now then *what* is wrong with that series of statements and why?

    --
    (setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )
     
    chuckcar, Jun 18, 2010
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  20. Evan Platt wrote:

    > chucktard wrote:
    >> Nonsence.

    >
    > The fact that you've been told numerous times you're using a made up
    > word ...


    He's ignored my post about his nonsense earlier today, eh?
    <hvd3pf$jsm$-september.org>

    --
    -bts
    -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul
     
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Jun 18, 2010
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