Review: My first DVD 9 Disc - The Core

Discussion in 'DVD Video' started by Goldfinger, Oct 27, 2003.

  1. Goldfinger

    Goldfinger Guest

    Finally, I have the misfortune of buying a DVD 9 disc on ebay (the one with
    "the cover may be different from the picture" written in the smallest font
    possible). I've initiated a charge back through paypal so I'll get my money
    back. But since the seal has already been broken so I just watched the disc
    nonetheless.

    First of all, I don't know how there could be a DTS track for this movie
    becasue there is none. My guess is it's just the same old DD track
    recompressed by the pirates to DTS.

    The picture is heavily pixalated, barely better than SVCD. All picture
    details are lost, espcially the black and grey details which this movie is
    full of. There is a little rectangle on the upper right hand corner with a
    P in it which I guess is just the pirate's watermark.

    Interesting is that the seller gets almost 100% on feedback so either people
    are happy buying bootlegs or they don't know they are buying bootlegs. The
    later will be my guess. I got the disc for $9 plus shipping which is cheap
    but not really that cheap and the seller is from Canada. Needless to say, I
    would much rather pay a buck or two more to get the real deal.

    The movie itself sucks big time, if you ask me. But the most interesting
    fact is a quote I found at the back of the case:

    "In the end, the script is probably the only ture thing that I felt was
    lacking."

    - Gred Dean Schmitz, upcomingmovie.com
     
    Goldfinger, Oct 27, 2003
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  2. Goldfinger

    Zimmy Guest

    Wow, kind of embarassing to get your tech facts wrong in your thread title!

    The store bought, 100% legal copy of the Core is DVD9 along with 95% of
    every DVD released today.

    I'm guessing you mean DVDR or DVD5 blanks?

    "Goldfinger" <> wrote in message
    news:WRbnb.3758659$...
    > Finally, I have the misfortune of buying a DVD 9 disc on ebay (the one

    with
    > "the cover may be different from the picture" written in the smallest font
    > possible). I've initiated a charge back through paypal so I'll get my

    money
    > back. But since the seal has already been broken so I just watched the

    disc
    > nonetheless.
    >
    > First of all, I don't know how there could be a DTS track for this movie
    > becasue there is none. My guess is it's just the same old DD track
    > recompressed by the pirates to DTS.
    >
    > The picture is heavily pixalated, barely better than SVCD. All picture
    > details are lost, espcially the black and grey details which this movie is
    > full of. There is a little rectangle on the upper right hand corner with

    a
    > P in it which I guess is just the pirate's watermark.
    >
    > Interesting is that the seller gets almost 100% on feedback so either

    people
    > are happy buying bootlegs or they don't know they are buying bootlegs.

    The
    > later will be my guess. I got the disc for $9 plus shipping which is

    cheap
    > but not really that cheap and the seller is from Canada. Needless to say,

    I
    > would much rather pay a buck or two more to get the real deal.
    >
    > The movie itself sucks big time, if you ask me. But the most interesting
    > fact is a quote I found at the back of the case:
    >
    > "In the end, the script is probably the only ture thing that I felt was
    > lacking."
    >
    > - Gred Dean Schmitz, upcomingmovie.com
    >
    >
     
    Zimmy, Oct 27, 2003
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  3. Goldfinger

    Goldfinger Guest

    "Zimmy" <> wrote in message
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    > Wow, kind of embarassing to get your tech facts wrong in your thread

    title!
    >
    > The store bought, 100% legal copy of the Core is DVD9 along with 95% of
    > every DVD released today.
    >
    > I'm guessing you mean DVDR or DVD5 blanks?


    DVD-9 on the front of the disc is a dead giveaway that it is a pirated disc.
    Mine is a pirated disc alright. The legit one won't have a DTS track and
    Malay subtitles on.
     
    Goldfinger, Oct 27, 2003
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  4. Goldfinger

    Codswallop Guest

    On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:13:42 GMT, Goldfinger wrote in alt.video.dvd:

    > DVD-9 on the front of the disc is a dead giveaway that it is a pirated
    > disc. Mine is a pirated disc alright. The legit one won't have a DTS
    > track and Malay subtitles on.


    Not always. A lot of legit Hong Kong DVDs have DVD-5/9 plastered all
    over them. Usually on the back, though.

    --
    - Cods


    (un ROT-13 to email)
     
    Codswallop, Oct 27, 2003
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  5. Goldfinger

    Goldfinger Guest

    "Codswallop" <> wrote in message
    news:Xns9422619F46431codswallopcom@139.132.1.4...
    > On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:13:42 GMT, Goldfinger wrote in alt.video.dvd:
    >
    > > DVD-9 on the front of the disc is a dead giveaway that it is a pirated
    > > disc. Mine is a pirated disc alright. The legit one won't have a DTS
    > > track and Malay subtitles on.

    >
    > Not always. A lot of legit Hong Kong DVDs have DVD-5/9 plastered all
    > over them. Usually on the back, though.


    Yeah but this disc is clearly from Malaysia with Malay subtitles on.
     
    Goldfinger, Oct 27, 2003
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  6. Goldfinger

    Iluvatar Guest

    can you post the link from ebay from the item?
    "Goldfinger" <> schreef in bericht
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    >
    > "Codswallop" <> wrote in message
    > news:Xns9422619F46431codswallopcom@139.132.1.4...
    > > On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:13:42 GMT, Goldfinger wrote in alt.video.dvd:
    > >
    > > > DVD-9 on the front of the disc is a dead giveaway that it is a pirated
    > > > disc. Mine is a pirated disc alright. The legit one won't have a DTS
    > > > track and Malay subtitles on.

    > >
    > > Not always. A lot of legit Hong Kong DVDs have DVD-5/9 plastered all
    > > over them. Usually on the back, though.

    >
    > Yeah but this disc is clearly from Malaysia with Malay subtitles on.
    >
    >
     
    Iluvatar, Oct 28, 2003
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  7. Goldfinger

    Zimmy Guest

    "Goldfinger" <> wrote in message
    news:aUfnb.6907439$...
    >
    > "Zimmy" <> wrote in message
    > news:bnjrdh$124c49$-berlin.de...
    > > Wow, kind of embarassing to get your tech facts wrong in your thread

    > title!
    > >
    > > The store bought, 100% legal copy of the Core is DVD9 along with 95% of
    > > every DVD released today.
    > >
    > > I'm guessing you mean DVDR or DVD5 blanks?

    >
    > DVD-9 on the front of the disc is a dead giveaway that it is a pirated

    disc.
    > Mine is a pirated disc alright. The legit one won't have a DTS track and
    > Malay subtitles on.
    >


    My apologies. I was talking in tech terms of course. I guess they have
    dual layer plants over there.
     
    Zimmy, Oct 28, 2003
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  8. On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:50:24 GMT, "Goldfinger" <>
    wrote:

    >> Not always. A lot of legit Hong Kong DVDs have DVD-5/9 plastered all
    >> over them. Usually on the back, though.

    >
    >Yeah but this disc is clearly from Malaysia with Malay subtitles on.
    >

    A Malay disc with Malay subtitles? Could they BE any more obvious? Not
    everything from Malaysia is illegal, you know...

    Mischa
     
    Mischa van Dinter, Oct 28, 2003
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  9. Goldfinger

    Goldfinger Guest

    Goldfinger, Oct 28, 2003
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  10. Goldfinger

    Goldfinger Guest

    "Mischa van Dinter" <> wrote in message
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    > A Malay disc with Malay subtitles? Could they BE any more obvious? Not
    > everything from Malaysia is illegal, you know...


    Yes and I've bought some authentic Malay and Thai pc games from ebay. But
    in this case:

    1. The Core has no DTS track which this disc has
    2. The Core is a R1 new release and the R3 release is not out yet
    3. Even if the R3 release is out, it'll not play on a R1 player if the disc
    is genuine

    Gee, no wonder all the pirate DVD sellers got close to perfect feedback
    record, most people couldn't tell a fake one from a real one.
     
    Goldfinger, Oct 28, 2003
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  11. On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:50:14 GMT, "Goldfinger" <>
    wrote:


    >Gee, no wonder all the pirate DVD sellers got close to perfect feedback
    >record, most people couldn't tell a fake one from a real one.
    >

    I am sorry, I did not mean to say you could not recognise a pirate
    copy, I am well aware that you have a bootleg and can recognise it as
    such. I have several, some really good ones, but there are always a
    few givaways. I just meant that saying that it is labeled DVD-9 and
    that it is from Malaysia with Malay subtitles are both NOT indicating
    that it is a bootleg as both features can also be seen on legit
    releases.

    Mischa
     
    Mischa van Dinter, Oct 28, 2003
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  12. Goldfinger

    Goldfinger Guest

    "Mischa van Dinter" <> wrote in message
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    > I am sorry, I did not mean to say you could not recognise a pirate
    > copy, I am well aware that you have a bootleg and can recognise it as
    > such. I have several, some really good ones, but there are always a
    > few givaways. I just meant that saying that it is labeled DVD-9 and
    > that it is from Malaysia with Malay subtitles are both NOT indicating
    > that it is a bootleg as both features can also be seen on legit
    > releases.


    Points taken.

    R3 discs are relased at a later date than R1 discs (that's what zoning is
    supposed to achieve). So if a new R1 release has a Malay version, 95% of
    the time, you can bet it's a fake one.
     
    Goldfinger, Oct 28, 2003
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  13. Goldfinger

    ThePunisher Guest

    Goldfinger wrote:
    > "Mischa van Dinter" <> wrote in message
    > news:eek:...
    >
    > > I am sorry, I did not mean to say you could not recognise a pirate
    > > copy, I am well aware that you have a bootleg and can recognise it
    > > as such. I have several, some really good ones, but there are
    > > always a few givaways. I just meant that saying that it is labeled
    > > DVD-9 and that it is from Malaysia with Malay subtitles are both
    > > NOT indicating that it is a bootleg as both features can also be
    > > seen on legit releases.

    >
    > Points taken.
    >
    > R3 discs are relased at a later date than R1 discs (that's what
    > zoning is supposed to achieve).



    You're so right, Shaolin Soccer being a good example.

    --
    ThePunisher
     
    ThePunisher, Oct 29, 2003
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