Regarding Microsoft Certification

Discussion in 'Microsoft Certification' started by =?Utf-8?B?UmFtZXNo?=, Jan 31, 2007.

  1. Hi,
    I am currently working n asp.net 1.1 and sql server 2000. I want to take
    Microsoft certification examination. Anyone can suggest which is better one
    for me to take.
    Thank you.
    Ramesh
    =?Utf-8?B?UmFtZXNo?=, Jan 31, 2007
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    WishMaster Guest

    On Jan 31, 3:20 pm, Ramesh <> wrote:
    > Hi,
    > I am currently working n asp.net 1.1 and sql server 2000. I want to take
    > Microsoft certification examination. Anyone can suggest which is better one
    > for me to take.
    > Thank you.
    > Ramesh


    Hi Ramesh:

    I would recomend you for .Net 2.0 exams because recently, Microsoft
    has changed the certification program (almost
    totally).
    On general information about the MS certification you can find here.
    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/newgen/default.mspx

    If you are still want to follow the old path of certification, let me
    know I can give you more information.

    Now where to start for new path, I would suggest "Microsoft Certified
    Technology
    Specialist (MCTS)" and more specifically exam Exam 70-536 and then
    Exam 70-528, IF you have interest in web development using c# etc.
    and
    if you want to focus on some other MCTS areas then you can find eight
    combination here: http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcts/
    default.mspx


    Once you done with MCTS then you can move forward to "Microsoft
    Certifications for IT Professionals" depending on your interest.


    I like the new structure for certification as you can focus on
    specific area, where you want to focus on.

    Hope this helps!

    Cheers,
    Amer
    MCSD.Net
    ITIL Certified.
    WishMaster, Jan 31, 2007
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  3. Thank you, I got it.
    But It make take more time to go for .net 2.0, because I am working on
    ..net1.1 only. Can I have information on this also.
    thank you.

    "WishMaster" wrote:

    > On Jan 31, 3:20 pm, Ramesh <> wrote:
    > > Hi,
    > > I am currently working n asp.net 1.1 and sql server 2000. I want to take
    > > Microsoft certification examination. Anyone can suggest which is better one
    > > for me to take.
    > > Thank you.
    > > Ramesh

    >
    > Hi Ramesh:
    >
    > I would recomend you for .Net 2.0 exams because recently, Microsoft
    > has changed the certification program (almost
    > totally).
    > On general information about the MS certification you can find here.
    > http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/newgen/default.mspx
    >
    > If you are still want to follow the old path of certification, let me
    > know I can give you more information.
    >
    > Now where to start for new path, I would suggest "Microsoft Certified
    > Technology
    > Specialist (MCTS)" and more specifically exam Exam 70-536 and then
    > Exam 70-528, IF you have interest in web development using c# etc.
    > and
    > if you want to focus on some other MCTS areas then you can find eight
    > combination here: http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcts/
    > default.mspx
    >
    >
    > Once you done with MCTS then you can move forward to "Microsoft
    > Certifications for IT Professionals" depending on your interest.
    >
    >
    > I like the new structure for certification as you can focus on
    > specific area, where you want to focus on.
    >
    > Hope this helps!
    >
    > Cheers,
    > Amer
    > MCSD.Net
    > ITIL Certified.
    >
    >
    >
    =?Utf-8?B?UmFtZXNo?=, Jan 31, 2007
    #3
  4. =?Utf-8?B?UmFtZXNo?=

    WishMaster Guest

    On Jan 31, 10:57 pm, Ramesh <> wrote:
    > Thank you, I got it.
    > But It make take more time to go for .net 2.0, because I am working on
    > .net1.1 only. Can I have information on this also.
    > thank you.
    >
    >
    >
    > "WishMaster" wrote:
    > > On Jan 31, 3:20 pm, Ramesh <> wrote:
    > > > Hi,
    > > > I am currently working n asp.net 1.1 and sql server 2000. I want to take
    > > > Microsoft certification examination. Anyone can suggest which is better one
    > > > for me to take.
    > > > Thank you.
    > > > Ramesh

    >
    > > Hi Ramesh:

    >
    > > I would recomend you for .Net 2.0 exams because recently, Microsoft
    > > has changed the certification program (almost
    > > totally).
    > > On general information about the MS certification you can find here.
    > >http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/newgen/default.mspx

    >
    > > If you are still want to follow the old path of certification, let me
    > > know I can give you more information.

    >
    > > Now where to start for new path, I would suggest "Microsoft Certified
    > > Technology
    > > Specialist (MCTS)" and more specifically exam Exam 70-536 and then
    > > Exam 70-528, IF you have interest in web development using c# etc.
    > > and
    > > if you want to focus on some other MCTS areas then you can find eight
    > > combination here:http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcts/
    > > default.mspx

    >
    > > Once you done with MCTS then you can move forward to "Microsoft
    > > Certifications for IT Professionals" depending on your interest.

    >
    > > I like the new structure for certification as you can focus on
    > > specific area, where you want to focus on.

    >
    > > Hope this helps!

    >
    > > Cheers,
    > > Amer
    > > MCSD.Net
    > > ITIL Certified.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    Sure, I can send you more information in this regards if you just tell
    me your intersts and work i.e.
    1) What language you are using C# or VB.Net
    2) What is your major interst i.e. Web Development or Windows
    Developement
    3) What you want to achive? I mean only MCP or MCAD or MCSD
    4) Are you using SQL server with .Net 1.1?

    Cheers,
    Amer
    WishMaster, Feb 1, 2007
    #4
  5. I totally disagree with Amer / Wishmaster.

    1. If you are only dealing with .NET Framework 1.1, don't take the 2.0 exams
    yet. Why? Because a lot of the new exams' content is on the features that
    are different than 1.1. If you do a search on msdn.microsoft.com for the
    items mentioned in the "skills being measured" section of the Preparation
    Guide website, you will see that this is true. I would suggest taking the
    older exams, then take the upgrades for 2.0 after you spent some programming
    time on Visual Studio 2005.

    The only advantage to skipping the 1.1 exams for you would be if you have a
    hard time with Windows development, since the MCSD/MCAD certifications
    require that you pass both Windows and Web development exams (along with an
    XML exam and a Windows Architecture exam for the MCSD) - the MCTS/MCPD exams
    are more compartmentalized.

    The other exception for skipping the MCSD/MCAD exams and going directly to
    the 2.0 exams even though you don't have enough 2.0 experience (yet) would be
    if you program exclusively in C++, since there is no 70-3x5/70-3x6 for C++.

    2. If (when) you do go the 2.0 route, start with 528 before 536. Why?
    Because 528 earns you a Microsoft Certified Professional designation. Taking
    536 by itself earns you nothing. Amer is right that passing both will give
    you a MCTS: Web Applications, however.

    If I were in your shoes, assuming I knew Windows development as well as
    ASP.NET (and C# was my language), I would take the exams in this order:
    70-315: Developing and Implementing Web Applications with Microsoft Visual
    C# .NET and Microsoft Visual Studio .NET
    [Now you are an MCP]
    70-320: Developing XML Web Services and Server Components with Microsoft
    Visual C# .NET and the Microsoft .NET Framework
    70-229: Designing and Implementing Databases with Microsoft SQL Server 2000
    Enterprise Edition
    [Now you have your MCAD]
    70-316: Developing and Implementing Windows-based Applications with
    Microsoft Visual C# .NET and Microsoft Visual Studio .NET
    70-300: Analyzing Requirements and Defining Solution Architectures for
    Microsoft .NET
    [Now you have your MCSD]
    70-228: Installing, Configuring, and Administering Microsoft SQL Server 2000
    Enterprise Edition
    [Now you have your MCDBA]

    That should give you enough initials after your name to impress anyone
    (hopefully including your future employers).

    Of course, you should be doing your own research on the various exams and
    decide for yourself what is best order for you. Look over the "skills being
    measured" section of the Preparation Guides and take the exam that you think
    you are most likely to pass first -- it will build up your confidence to take
    the harder exams later.

    Good luck in whatever you decide.
    --
    Larry J. West, MCSD, MCPD, MCTS:SQL Server 2005, MOUS, FLMI, ACS


    "WishMaster" wrote:

    > On Jan 31, 3:20 pm, Ramesh <> wrote:
    > > Hi,
    > > I am currently working n asp.net 1.1 and sql server 2000. I want to take
    > > Microsoft certification examination. Anyone can suggest which is better one
    > > for me to take.
    > > Thank you.
    > > Ramesh

    >
    > Hi Ramesh:
    >
    > I would recomend you for .Net 2.0 exams because recently, Microsoft
    > has changed the certification program (almost
    > totally).
    > On general information about the MS certification you can find here.
    > http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/newgen/default.mspx
    >
    > If you are still want to follow the old path of certification, let me
    > know I can give you more information.
    >
    > Now where to start for new path, I would suggest "Microsoft Certified
    > Technology
    > Specialist (MCTS)" and more specifically exam Exam 70-536 and then
    > Exam 70-528, IF you have interest in web development using c# etc.
    > and
    > if you want to focus on some other MCTS areas then you can find eight
    > combination here: http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcts/
    > default.mspx
    >
    >
    > Once you done with MCTS then you can move forward to "Microsoft
    > Certifications for IT Professionals" depending on your interest.
    >
    >
    > I like the new structure for certification as you can focus on
    > specific area, where you want to focus on.
    >
    > Hope this helps!
    >
    > Cheers,
    > Amer
    > MCSD.Net
    > ITIL Certified.
    >
    >
    >
    =?Utf-8?B?TGFycnlXZXN0TUNTRA==?=, Feb 1, 2007
    #5
  6. =?Utf-8?B?UmFtZXNo?=

    WishMaster Guest

    On Feb 2, 12:06 am, LarryWestMCSD <LarryWest-at-hotmail-dot-com>
    wrote:
    > I totally disagree with Amer / Wishmaster.
    >
    > 1. If you are only dealing with .NET Framework 1.1, don't take the 2.0 exams
    > yet. Why? Because a lot of the new exams' content is on the features that
    > are different than 1.1. If you do a search on msdn.microsoft.com for the
    > items mentioned in the "skills being measured" section of the Preparation
    > Guide website, you will see that this is true. I would suggest taking the
    > older exams, then take the upgrades for 2.0 after you spent some programming
    > time on Visual Studio 2005.
    >
    > The only advantage to skipping the 1.1 exams for you would be if you have a
    > hard time with Windows development, since the MCSD/MCAD certifications
    > require that you pass both Windows and Web development exams (along with an
    > XML exam and a Windows Architecture exam for the MCSD) - the MCTS/MCPD exams
    > are more compartmentalized.
    >
    > The other exception for skipping the MCSD/MCAD exams and going directly to
    > the 2.0 exams even though you don't have enough 2.0 experience (yet) would be
    > if you program exclusively in C++, since there is no 70-3x5/70-3x6 for C++.
    >
    > 2. If (when) you do go the 2.0 route, start with 528 before 536. Why?
    > Because 528 earns you a Microsoft Certified Professional designation. Taking
    > 536 by itself earns you nothing. Amer is right that passing both will give
    > you a MCTS: Web Applications, however.
    >
    > If I were in your shoes, assuming I knew Windows development as well as
    > ASP.NET (and C# was my language), I would take the exams in this order:
    > 70-315: Developing and Implementing Web Applications with Microsoft Visual
    > C# .NET and Microsoft Visual Studio .NET
    > [Now you are an MCP]
    > 70-320: Developing XML Web Services and Server Components with Microsoft
    > Visual C# .NET and the Microsoft .NET Framework
    > 70-229: Designing and Implementing Databases with Microsoft SQL Server 2000
    > Enterprise Edition
    > [Now you have your MCAD]
    > 70-316: Developing and Implementing Windows-based Applications with
    > Microsoft Visual C# .NET and Microsoft Visual Studio .NET
    > 70-300: Analyzing Requirements and Defining Solution Architectures for
    > Microsoft .NET
    > [Now you have your MCSD]
    > 70-228: Installing, Configuring, and Administering Microsoft SQL Server 2000
    > Enterprise Edition
    > [Now you have your MCDBA]
    >
    > That should give you enough initials after your name to impress anyone
    > (hopefully including your future employers).
    >
    > Of course, you should be doing your own research on the various exams and
    > decide for yourself what is best order for you. Look over the "skills being
    > measured" section of the Preparation Guides and take the exam that you think
    > you are most likely to pass first -- it will build up your confidence to take
    > the harder exams later.
    >
    > Good luck in whatever you decide.
    > --
    > Larry J. West, MCSD, MCPD, MCTS:SQL Server 2005, MOUS, FLMI, ACS
    >
    >
    >
    > "WishMaster" wrote:
    > > On Jan 31, 3:20 pm, Ramesh <> wrote:
    > > > Hi,
    > > > I am currently working n asp.net 1.1 and sql server 2000. I want to take
    > > > Microsoft certification examination. Anyone can suggest which is better one
    > > > for me to take.
    > > > Thank you.
    > > > Ramesh

    >
    > > Hi Ramesh:

    >
    > > I would recomend you for .Net 2.0 exams because recently, Microsoft
    > > has changed the certification program (almost
    > > totally).
    > > On general information about the MS certification you can find here.
    > >http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/newgen/default.mspx

    >
    > > If you are still want to follow the old path of certification, let me
    > > know I can give you more information.

    >
    > > Now where to start for new path, I would suggest "Microsoft Certified
    > > Technology
    > > Specialist (MCTS)" and more specifically exam Exam 70-536 and then
    > > Exam 70-528, IF you have interest in web development using c# etc.
    > > and
    > > if you want to focus on some other MCTS areas then you can find eight
    > > combination here:http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcts/
    > > default.mspx

    >
    > > Once you done with MCTS then you can move forward to "Microsoft
    > > Certifications for IT Professionals" depending on your interest.

    >
    > > I like the new structure for certification as you can focus on
    > > specific area, where you want to focus on.

    >
    > > Hope this helps!

    >
    > > Cheers,
    > > Amer
    > > MCSD.Net
    > > ITIL Certified.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    Hi,

    Well everybody have their own views and it is ok to disagree.

    The way I look at this thing, based few elements.

    1) I won't recommend new path if somebody is working on VB6 or same
    age of technologies. If you look at difference between 1.1 and 2.0, it
    is a version change not a major technology change. Microsoft improved
    and added thing in 2.0 but not changed the whole technology. I worked
    on 1.1 for 2 years and working on 2.0 for last one year (almost).
    2) Lot of companies are moving to 2.0 or even 3.0. There are no big
    issues/limitation to use different version on same developer machine
    and even you can run 1.1 and 2.0 on same server in production and
    works very well. (even 3.0 btw)
    3) I look at certification as a learning opportunity as well rather
    than just get a label.
    4) Certification doesn't mean you are expert but you know the all
    element in the specific area and you still need to get experience to
    implement that.
    5) There are more...


    Now having these things in mind and looking at the market demand, I
    don't think, certificated for 1.1 first and then re-certified for 2.0.
    I know there are two exams to upgrade the MCSD.Net. In next 1 or 2
    years, .net 1.1 would be a history. Especially after .net 3.0 features
    WWF, WCP and WPF.

    If you look at, how prominent you will be after certification. There
    20,582 MCSD worldwide and how many are MCTS/MCPD? Not sure about MCPD
    but I am sure number will be a lot less than MCSD.Net. I am working
    as .Net Architect and involved in future technical direction for
    company (based on market demand) and I would go with guy who is more
    uptodate skills.

    Last note, it doesn't mean MCSD.Net (1.1) is totally wrong. But how
    much more effort you are going to put in MCPD and what you going to
    get. You will be more uptodate with technology and more prominent if
    you have MCPD rather than MCSD.Net

    *Again these are my recommendation based on my background and not
    necessarily it will fit in your situation.

    Good Luck!

    Cheers,
    Amer
    MCSD.Net
    WishMaster, Feb 1, 2007
    #6
  7. Hi,
    Thank you for giving me information. I an now currently working on .net 1.1,
    c#, asp.net, SQL Server 2000, Windows 2000 professional.

    Thank you.

    "WishMaster" wrote:

    > On Jan 31, 10:57 pm, Ramesh <> wrote:
    > > Thank you, I got it.
    > > But It make take more time to go for .net 2.0, because I am working on
    > > .net1.1 only. Can I have information on this also.
    > > thank you.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "WishMaster" wrote:
    > > > On Jan 31, 3:20 pm, Ramesh <> wrote:
    > > > > Hi,
    > > > > I am currently working n asp.net 1.1 and sql server 2000. I want to take
    > > > > Microsoft certification examination. Anyone can suggest which is better one
    > > > > for me to take.
    > > > > Thank you.
    > > > > Ramesh

    > >
    > > > Hi Ramesh:

    > >
    > > > I would recomend you for .Net 2.0 exams because recently, Microsoft
    > > > has changed the certification program (almost
    > > > totally).
    > > > On general information about the MS certification you can find here.
    > > >http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/newgen/default.mspx

    > >
    > > > If you are still want to follow the old path of certification, let me
    > > > know I can give you more information.

    > >
    > > > Now where to start for new path, I would suggest "Microsoft Certified
    > > > Technology
    > > > Specialist (MCTS)" and more specifically exam Exam 70-536 and then
    > > > Exam 70-528, IF you have interest in web development using c# etc.
    > > > and
    > > > if you want to focus on some other MCTS areas then you can find eight
    > > > combination here:http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcts/
    > > > default.mspx

    > >
    > > > Once you done with MCTS then you can move forward to "Microsoft
    > > > Certifications for IT Professionals" depending on your interest.

    > >
    > > > I like the new structure for certification as you can focus on
    > > > specific area, where you want to focus on.

    > >
    > > > Hope this helps!

    > >
    > > > Cheers,
    > > > Amer
    > > > MCSD.Net
    > > > ITIL Certified.- Hide quoted text -

    > >
    > > - Show quoted text -

    >
    > Sure, I can send you more information in this regards if you just tell
    > me your intersts and work i.e.
    > 1) What language you are using C# or VB.Net
    > 2) What is your major interst i.e. Web Development or Windows
    > Developement
    > 3) What you want to achive? I mean only MCP or MCAD or MCSD
    > 4) Are you using SQL server with .Net 1.1?
    >
    > Cheers,
    > Amer
    >
    >
    =?Utf-8?B?UmFtZXNo?=, Feb 2, 2007
    #7
  8. =?Utf-8?B?UmFtZXNo?=

    WishMaster Guest

    On Feb 2, 3:17 pm, Ramesh <> wrote:
    > Hi,
    > Thank you for giving me information. I an now currently working on .net 1.1,
    > c#, asp.net, SQL Server 2000, Windows 2000 professional.
    >
    > Thank you.
    >
    >
    >
    > "WishMaster" wrote:
    > > On Jan 31, 10:57 pm, Ramesh <> wrote:
    > > > Thank you, I got it.
    > > > But It make take more time to go for .net 2.0, because I am working on
    > > > .net1.1 only. Can I have information on this also.
    > > > thank you.

    >
    > > > "WishMaster" wrote:
    > > > > On Jan 31, 3:20 pm, Ramesh <> wrote:
    > > > > > Hi,
    > > > > > I am currently working n asp.net 1.1 and sql server 2000. I want to take
    > > > > > Microsoft certification examination. Anyone can suggest which is better one
    > > > > > for me to take.
    > > > > > Thank you.
    > > > > > Ramesh

    >
    > > > > Hi Ramesh:

    >
    > > > > I would recomend you for .Net 2.0 exams because recently, Microsoft
    > > > > has changed the certification program (almost
    > > > > totally).
    > > > > On general information about the MS certification you can find here.
    > > > >http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/newgen/default.mspx

    >
    > > > > If you are still want to follow the old path of certification, let me
    > > > > know I can give you more information.

    >
    > > > > Now where to start for new path, I would suggest "Microsoft Certified
    > > > > Technology
    > > > > Specialist (MCTS)" and more specifically exam Exam 70-536 and then
    > > > > Exam 70-528, IF you have interest in web development using c# etc.
    > > > > and
    > > > > if you want to focus on some other MCTS areas then you can find eight
    > > > > combination here:http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcts/
    > > > > default.mspx

    >
    > > > > Once you done with MCTS then you can move forward to "Microsoft
    > > > > Certifications for IT Professionals" depending on your interest.

    >
    > > > > I like the new structure for certification as you can focus on
    > > > > specific area, where you want to focus on.

    >
    > > > > Hope this helps!

    >
    > > > > Cheers,
    > > > > Amer
    > > > > MCSD.Net
    > > > > ITIL Certified.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > > - Show quoted text -

    >
    > > Sure, I can send you more information in this regards if you just tell
    > > me your intersts and work i.e.
    > > 1) What language you are using C# or VB.Net
    > > 2) What is your major interst i.e. Web Development or Windows
    > > Developement
    > > 3) What you want to achive? I mean only MCP or MCAD or MCSD
    > > 4) Are you using SQL server with .Net 1.1?

    >
    > > Cheers,
    > > Amer- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    As Larry has answered it before.

    According to your development area, you need to pass 5 exams to get
    MCSD.Net.

    70-315 -- After passing this exam, you will be MCP here
    70-320
    70-229 -- After passing this exam, you will be MCAD here
    70-316
    70-300 -- After passing this exam, you will be MCSD.Net here

    You can find more information on same thing http://www.microsoft.com/
    learning/mcp/mcsd/requirementsdotnet.mspx
    Cheers,
    Amer
    WishMaster, Feb 2, 2007
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