Realplayer security and privacy issues?

Discussion in 'Computer Security' started by nemo, May 31, 2005.

  1. nemo

    nemo Guest

    I haven't posted here for ages so I suppose I'd better introduce myself as a
    Newbie again.

    I accidentally deleted my old version of RealPlayer and yesterday, I
    downloaded the free basic version.

    It installed OK, plays a few more types of file and the picture quality is
    much improved. Fine I thought.

    But during the install, it repeatedly asked me for my postcode which I'd
    already submitted, (I have it listed as confidential info with a prompt
    instruction) and more disturbingly, it removed the Block Cookies rule from
    IE and my Norton firewall and used a huge number of them while installing.
    Fortunately it only altered the setting from 'Block All' to 'Prompt' in the
    firewall and that's how I realised what it had done.

    And on top of that, this morning RealPlayer contacted
    http://message.real.com/Msg/7.0/win32 resulting in my again being asked for
    my postcode. (That's UK for Zip Code, BTW.)

    The odd thing was - I didn't have RealPlayer running at the time and there's
    nothing new showing as running in the background when I hit CTRL+ALT+DEL.

    Any ideas before I ditch the thing and do without it? Flash and Media Player
    7 have already gone that way for phoning home.

    Thanks in advance,

    Nemo
     
    nemo, May 31, 2005
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  2. nemo

    nemo_outis Guest

    "nemo" <> wrote in
    news:x4Yme.170901$:

    > I haven't posted here for ages so I suppose I'd better introduce
    > myself as a Newbie again.
    >
    > I accidentally deleted my old version of RealPlayer and yesterday, I
    > downloaded the free basic version.
    >
    > It installed OK, plays a few more types of file and the picture
    > quality is much improved. Fine I thought.
    >
    > But during the install, it repeatedly asked me for my postcode which
    > I'd already submitted, (I have it listed as confidential info with a
    > prompt instruction) and more disturbingly, it removed the Block
    > Cookies rule from IE and my Norton firewall and used a huge number of
    > them while installing. Fortunately it only altered the setting from
    > 'Block All' to 'Prompt' in the firewall and that's how I realised what
    > it had done.
    >
    > And on top of that, this morning RealPlayer contacted
    > http://message.real.com/Msg/7.0/win32 resulting in my again being
    > asked for my postcode. (That's UK for Zip Code, BTW.)
    >
    > The odd thing was - I didn't have RealPlayer running at the time and
    > there's nothing new showing as running in the background when I hit
    > CTRL+ALT+DEL.
    >
    > Any ideas before I ditch the thing and do without it? Flash and Media
    > Player 7 have already gone that way for phoning home.
    >
    > Thanks in advance,
    >
    > Nemo
    >

    Yup, what you need is "real alternative" which ,although it has to use a
    few realplayer DLLs, is clean of spyware and doesn't phone home. It's
    widely available on the net (free!) and I believe the latest version is
    1.38. One place to get it:

    http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/video_players/real_alter
    native.cfm

    Regards,
     
    nemo_outis, May 31, 2005
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  3. From: "nemo" <>

    | I haven't posted here for ages so I suppose I'd better introduce myself as a
    | Newbie again.
    |
    | I accidentally deleted my old version of RealPlayer and yesterday, I
    | downloaded the free basic version.
    |
    | It installed OK, plays a few more types of file and the picture quality is
    | much improved. Fine I thought.
    |
    | But during the install, it repeatedly asked me for my postcode which I'd
    | already submitted, (I have it listed as confidential info with a prompt
    | instruction) and more disturbingly, it removed the Block Cookies rule from
    | IE and my Norton firewall and used a huge number of them while installing.
    | Fortunately it only altered the setting from 'Block All' to 'Prompt' in the
    | firewall and that's how I realised what it had done.
    |
    | And on top of that, this morning RealPlayer contacted
    | http://message.real.com/Msg/7.0/win32 resulting in my again being asked for
    | my postcode. (That's UK for Zip Code, BTW.)
    |
    | The odd thing was - I didn't have RealPlayer running at the time and there's
    | nothing new showing as running in the background when I hit CTRL+ALT+DEL.
    |
    | Any ideas before I ditch the thing and do without it? Flash and Media Player
    | 7 have already gone that way for phoning home.
    |
    | Thanks in advance,
    |
    | Nemo
    |

    There have ben several vulbnerabilities noted in RealAudio. There are also exploits for the
    vulnerabilities and require replacing the software, patching the software or upgrading the
    version.

    --
    Dave
    http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
    http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
     
    David H. Lipman, May 31, 2005
    #3
  4. nemo

    nemo Guest

    "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
    news:d4_me.10307$3u3.2144@trnddc07...
    > From: "nemo" <>
    >
    > | I haven't posted here for ages so I suppose I'd better introduce myself

    as a
    > | Newbie again.
    > |
    > | I accidentally deleted my old version of RealPlayer and yesterday, I
    > | downloaded the free basic version.
    > |
    > | It installed OK, plays a few more types of file and the picture quality

    is
    > | much improved. Fine I thought.
    > |
    > | But during the install, it repeatedly asked me for my postcode which I'd
    > | already submitted, (I have it listed as confidential info with a prompt
    > | instruction) and more disturbingly, it removed the Block Cookies rule

    from
    > | IE and my Norton firewall and used a huge number of them while

    installing.
    > | Fortunately it only altered the setting from 'Block All' to 'Prompt' in

    the
    > | firewall and that's how I realised what it had done.
    > |
    > | And on top of that, this morning RealPlayer contacted
    > | http://message.real.com/Msg/7.0/win32 resulting in my again being asked

    for
    > | my postcode. (That's UK for Zip Code, BTW.)
    > |
    > | The odd thing was - I didn't have RealPlayer running at the time and

    there's
    > | nothing new showing as running in the background when I hit

    CTRL+ALT+DEL.
    > |
    > | Any ideas before I ditch the thing and do without it? Flash and Media

    Player
    > | 7 have already gone that way for phoning home.
    > |
    > | Thanks in advance,
    > |
    > | Nemo
    > |
    >
    > There have ben several vulbnerabilities noted in RealAudio. There are

    also exploits for the
    > vulnerabilities and require replacing the software, patching the software

    or upgrading the
    > version.
    >
    > --
    > Dave
    > http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
    > http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
    >
    >

    Thanks. I'll ditch the thing. It's not worth the trouble.
    Nemo
     
    nemo, May 31, 2005
    #4
  5. nemo

    Jim Watt Guest

    On Tue, 31 May 2005 11:42:21 GMT, "nemo" <> wrote:

    >I haven't posted here for ages so I suppose I'd better introduce myself as a
    >Newbie again.
    >
    >I accidentally deleted my old version of RealPlayer and yesterday, I
    >downloaded the free basic version.
    >
    >It installed OK, plays a few more types of file and the picture quality is
    >much improved. Fine I thought.
    >
    >But during the install, it repeatedly asked me for my postcode which I'd
    >already submitted, (I have it listed as confidential info with a prompt
    >instruction) and more disturbingly, it removed the Block Cookies rule from
    >IE and my Norton firewall and used a huge number of them while installing.
    >Fortunately it only altered the setting from 'Block All' to 'Prompt' in the
    >firewall and that's how I realised what it had done.
    >
    >And on top of that, this morning RealPlayer contacted
    >http://message.real.com/Msg/7.0/win32 resulting in my again being asked for
    >my postcode. (That's UK for Zip Code, BTW.)
    >
    >The odd thing was - I didn't have RealPlayer running at the time and there's
    >nothing new showing as running in the background when I hit CTRL+ALT+DEL.
    >
    >Any ideas before I ditch the thing and do without it? Flash and Media Player
    >7 have already gone that way for phoning home.
    >
    >Thanks in advance,
    >
    >Nemo


    Its a bit of software I have a love hate relationship with.

    I currently have the latest version, however noted it wants to run
    something called tkbell which I think inqures about updates and
    whatever devious stuff real player gets up to.

    I deleted the .exe as it kept putting back registry keys, it works
    a lot better without it and my memory has less crap running in the
    background.



    >


    --
    Jim Watt
    http://www.gibnet.com
     
    Jim Watt, May 31, 2005
    #5
  6. nemo

    nemo Guest

    "Jim Watt" <_way> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Tue, 31 May 2005 11:42:21 GMT, "nemo" <> wrote:
    >
    > >I haven't posted here for ages so I suppose I'd better introduce myself

    as a
    > >Newbie again.
    > >
    > >I accidentally deleted my old version of RealPlayer and yesterday, I
    > >downloaded the free basic version.
    > >
    > >It installed OK, plays a few more types of file and the picture quality

    is
    > >much improved. Fine I thought.
    > >
    > >But during the install, it repeatedly asked me for my postcode which I'd
    > >already submitted, (I have it listed as confidential info with a prompt
    > >instruction) and more disturbingly, it removed the Block Cookies rule

    from
    > >IE and my Norton firewall and used a huge number of them while

    installing.
    > >Fortunately it only altered the setting from 'Block All' to 'Prompt' in

    the
    > >firewall and that's how I realised what it had done.
    > >
    > >And on top of that, this morning RealPlayer contacted
    > >http://message.real.com/Msg/7.0/win32 resulting in my again being asked

    for
    > >my postcode. (That's UK for Zip Code, BTW.)
    > >
    > >The odd thing was - I didn't have RealPlayer running at the time and

    there's
    > >nothing new showing as running in the background when I hit CTRL+ALT+DEL.
    > >
    > >Any ideas before I ditch the thing and do without it? Flash and Media

    Player
    > >7 have already gone that way for phoning home.
    > >
    > >Thanks in advance,
    > >
    > >Nemo

    >
    > Its a bit of software I have a love hate relationship with.
    >
    > I currently have the latest version, however noted it wants to run
    > something called tkbell which I think inqures about updates and
    > whatever devious stuff real player gets up to.
    >
    > I deleted the .exe as it kept putting back registry keys, it works
    > a lot better without it and my memory has less crap running in the
    > background.
    >


    It seems to have been behaving itself since I went into Prefs and deselected
    everything that could cause it to phone home, but thanks for the tip. I'll
    try it.

    Just looked - I don't have tkbell.exe. Odd.
     
    nemo, Jun 2, 2005
    #6
  7. nemo

    george Guest

    On Tue, 31 May 2005 11:42:21 GMT, "nemo" <> wrote:

    >I haven't posted here for ages so I suppose I'd better introduce myself as a
    >Newbie again.
    >
    >I accidentally deleted my old version of RealPlayer and yesterday, I
    >downloaded the free basic version.
    >
    >It installed OK, plays a few more types of file and the picture quality is
    >much improved. Fine I thought.
    >
    >But during the install, it repeatedly asked me for my postcode which I'd
    >already submitted, (I have it listed as confidential info with a prompt
    >instruction) and more disturbingly, it removed the Block Cookies rule from
    >IE and my Norton firewall and used a huge number of them while installing.
    >Fortunately it only altered the setting from 'Block All' to 'Prompt' in the
    >firewall and that's how I realised what it had done.
    >
    >And on top of that, this morning RealPlayer contacted
    >http://message.real.com/Msg/7.0/win32 resulting in my again being asked for
    >my postcode. (That's UK for Zip Code, BTW.)
    >
    >The odd thing was - I didn't have RealPlayer running at the time and there's
    >nothing new showing as running in the background when I hit CTRL+ALT+DEL.
    >
    >Any ideas before I ditch the thing and do without it? Flash and Media Player
    >7 have already gone that way for phoning home.
    >
    >Thanks in advance,
    >
    >Nemo


    According to the Wall Street Journal about 6 months ago, Real has
    contracted with the Taiwan government to keep track of all their
    ex-patriots. I'll bet most of them have dsl and permenant address'
    making it easy to place them in a particular location. I think they
    do entirely too much "snooping"

    George
    >
    >
     
    george, Jun 2, 2005
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