Re: SPEWS (Spam Prevention Early Warning System) under attack?

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Nigel Howe, Sep 4, 2003.

  1. Nigel Howe

    Nigel Howe Guest

    Gone... seeyou... bye bye...

    On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 12:15:52 +1200, (Snoopy)
    te**yson@caverock.*et.*z.*is'n' wrote:

    >
    >I have been trying to get onto this website for a couple of days
    >
    >www.spews.org
    >
    >with no success. It just times out. Interestingly this site is not
    >cached on 'Google' either, so no alternative site view is available.
    >Has anyone out there been able to contact this site? Or is it under
    >attack?
    >
    >SNOOPY
    >
    >
    >--
    >Join the fight against aggressive, unrepentant
    > spammers 'china-netcom'. E-mail me for more
    >details
    >
     
    Nigel Howe, Sep 4, 2003
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  2. Nigel Howe

    Evil Bastard Guest

    On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 12:16:37 +1200, Nigel Howe wrote:

    >>I have been trying to get onto this website for a couple of days
    >>
    >>www.spews.org

    >
    > Gone... seeyou... bye bye...


    If the stories I hear are true, that SPEWS has been stupidly overzealous
    to the point of inflicting vast collateral damage (blocking countless
    non-spammers from sending email), then Good Riddance.
     
    Evil Bastard, Sep 4, 2003
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  3. Nigel Howe

    m00se Guest

    Evil Bastard wrote:

    > If the stories I hear are true, that SPEWS has been stupidly overzealous
    > to the point of inflicting vast collateral damage (blocking countless
    > non-spammers from sending email), then Good Riddance.
    >



    Lets get one thing clear. Spews has _never_ blocked even 1 article of mail.

    Spews is simply a published opinion. The admin who chooses to use spews,
    they are the person doing the blocking, not spews.

    No one was forced to use it, those who did, did so at their own choice.

    If an ISP decided that they want to host spammers, and refuse to deal
    with abuse complaints, then the ISP was listed. Admitedly that does
    somethings effect the 'innocent'.

    But if you are a customer of a known spam supporting provider, then its
    your own fault when mail cannot be delivered.
     
    m00se, Sep 4, 2003
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  4. Nigel Howe

    T.N.O. Guest

    "m00se" wrote
    > But if you are a customer of a known spam supporting provider, then its
    > your own fault when mail cannot be delivered.


    So say my isp is a bunch of wankers who host spammers and I dont know about
    it, how is this my fault?

    Before choosing an ISP am I meant to search thenet in some mystical place to
    get information on there spam friendliness status?
     
    T.N.O., Sep 4, 2003
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  5. Nigel Howe

    m00se Guest

    T.N.O. wrote:
    > "m00se" wrote
    >
    >>But if you are a customer of a known spam supporting provider, then its
    >>your own fault when mail cannot be delivered.

    >
    >
    > So say my isp is a bunch of wankers who host spammers and I dont know about
    > it, how is this my fault?



    I buy a video player, take it home and realise it doesnt play DVDs.
    My fault for lack of research.

    I buy a car, it runs on diesel, I wanted a petrol powered car.
    My fault for lack of research.



    If you are not willing to research beforehand (and it is amazing what
    google can tell you) its your own fault.

    If you dont know how to do the research, and are unwilling to contract a
    third party to do it for you, its your own fault.


    >
    > Before choosing an ISP am I meant to search thenet in some mystical place to
    > get information on there spam friendliness status?
    >



    Use google, you dont know hwo to use google, ask someone. No one you
    know knows how to find this information, contract a third party.

    Post on New Groups asking for a hat check, as around competitors, talk
    to existing customers etc... etc...




    If communicating with others is vital for your comapny, then research
    prior to implimenting any sort of plan, would be, sensible?
     
    m00se, Sep 4, 2003
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  6. Nigel Howe

    Gordon Smith Guest

    In article <bj66e2$fkvag$-berlin.de>, T.N.O. wrote:
    >
    > So say my isp is a bunch of wankers who host spammers and I dont know about
    > it, how is this my fault?
    >
    > Before choosing an ISP am I meant to search thenet in some mystical place to
    > get information on there spam friendliness status?
    >
    >

    http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search?hl=en

    Search for ISP name in news.admin.net-abuse.*
     
    Gordon Smith, Sep 4, 2003
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  7. Nigel Howe

    T.N.O. Guest

    "Gordon Smith" wrote
    > > Before choosing an ISP am I meant to search thenet in some mystical

    place to
    > > get information on there spam friendliness status?
    > >
    > >

    > http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search?hl=en
    >
    > Search for ISP name in news.admin.net-abuse.*


    All I found was a bunch of posts from you, about spam from other networks...
    this is less than usefull information on what I was looking for.
     
    T.N.O., Sep 4, 2003
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  8. Nigel Howe

    m00se Guest

    T.N.O. wrote:
    >
    > All I found was a bunch of posts from you, about spam from other networks...
    > this is less than usefull information on what I was looking for.
    >
    >


    In which case, its not Gordons fault you cant use a search engine. The
    information is there, one can only presume you would be better off
    contracting someone to find it.
     
    m00se, Sep 4, 2003
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  9. Nigel Howe

    T.N.O. Guest

    "m00se" wrote
    > In which case, its not Gordons fault you cant use a search engine. The
    > information is there, one can only presume you would be better off
    > contracting someone to find it.


    It's ok, I know that you guys arent spam friendly :)

    Incidentally, dialup is majorly fast with you guys... it is very nice
    compared to my mums Ihug connection.
     
    T.N.O., Sep 4, 2003
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  10. Nigel Howe

    T.N.O. Guest

    "Gordon Smith" wrote
    > > All I found was a bunch of posts from you, about spam from other

    networks...
    > > this is less than usefull information on what I was looking for.
    > >

    >
    > Guess we aren't listed as a spam-friendly provider then.... :)
    > Try putting in the names of a few other NZ ISPs.....


    heh, yeah I did... kinda funny for some of the posts, thenm the dumb arsed
    replies from some people.
     
    T.N.O., Sep 4, 2003
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