Re: Spam has finally won

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by John Fulton, Jul 30, 2003.

  1. John Fulton

    John Fulton Guest

    MarkH wrote:
    > Who is this <> wrote in news:who-CA928A.18465729072003
    > @news.xtra.co.nz:
    >
    >>The alternative is if an ISP will set up mail service based on a
    >>whitelist where they bounce all email from people not on the list, that
    >>list should be editable via a secure web page by the customer. this must
    >>surely be easier as maintaining black lists is time consuming and labour
    >>intensive as the spammers just keep faking domains etc to get through
    >>the filters. It is now most likely quicker to filter mail in based on a
    >>customers whitelist than to try the loosing battle of keeping spam out.

    >
    >
    > If this is what you want then why don’t you do it yourself?
    >
    > i.e. setup mail rule - if sender is not in my contacts list then
    > permanently delete it.
    >
    > Just advise everyone that you will only be able to see E-Mail sent by
    > people you know, so they need to ring you if they want you to add them to
    > you contact list.
    >
    > I don't know how much spam I get, because most is permanently deleted by my
    > rules. Essentially my E-Mails fall into 3 catagories:
    > 1. People I know (mail gets shuffled to various folders)
    > 2. Unknown (Mail gets moved to deleted items folder for me to check)
    > 3. Spam (Permanently deleted)
    >
    > I check the catagory 2 mail and change rules for future reference.
    >

    I use Mozilla V1.4 and it has built in Bayesian Filtering. I been using
    this now for approximately 2 months (The Bayseian filtering) and it now
    does a very good job of sorting out the spam.

    Some days I get up to 40 spams in my account and all but 4 or 5 get
    deleted. So far I have not lost anything useful.

    The big thing about Bauseian filtering is that it learns what you don't
    like from what you define as spam! There is no fiddling with white or
    black lists, the whole thing taylors itself to your particular tastes in
    email!

    I can recommend Mozilla - it does not have any of the prblems that IE has!

    Regards to you all

    John Fulton
    John Fulton, Jul 30, 2003
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  2. John Fulton

    Who is this Guest

    In article <SwKVa.8251$>,
    John Fulton <> wrote:


    >
    > The big thing about Bauseian filtering is that it learns what you don't
    > like from what you define as spam! There is no fiddling with white or
    > black lists, the whole thing taylors itself to your particular tastes in
    > email!


    The big thing about filters is that you have already downloaded the
    spam, that has used your time/bandwidth etc so you have already lost.
    It matters no one little bit that you did not read the spam, you have
    already paid for it.
    Who is this, Jul 30, 2003
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  3. John Fulton allegedly said:

    > I can recommend Mozilla - it does not have any of the prblems that IE has!


    Same here - as a browser.

    For mail, I use Evolution 1.4.3. on Linux.

    I use a whitelist approach. Mail i epxect is filtered into the appropriate
    folder - depending on source - and mail I don't expect goes into a holding
    folder.

    That handles the tiny bit if SPAM that gets through my mail server's access
    blocks - which stops 95% of the SPAM even being delivered.
    Herman Melville, Jul 30, 2003
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