Re: Some Warbirds

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    philo, Oct 1, 2012
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  2. philo

    philo Guest

    On 10/01/2012 05:31 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    > On 2012-10-01 11:41:25 -0700, philo <> said:
    >
    >> WOW
    >>
    >> great!
    >>
    >> I recall seeing those "flying wings" all the time back around 1955 or so

    >
    > That would have been late for any of the Northrop wings of that era.
    > The YB-35 had its first flight in 1946 and was cancelled in 1949. Only
    > one flew.
    > The YB-49, had a production run of 6. Three were YB-35s converted to jet
    > power, 2 purpose built YB-49s, and one YRB-49A.
    > In 1948 test pilot Glenn Edwards was killed in #2 and now has Edwards
    > AFB named for him.
    > After testing the YRB-49A proved to be an awful bomber. It only flew 13
    > times, and the program ended in 1951 with all YB-35s & YB-49s, including
    > those in production, were ordered scrapped.
    >
    > So the only survivor of the entire program is the 1/3 scale, proof of
    > concept N9MB which I was able to see on Saturday.
    >
    >



    I am absolutely positive I saw flying wing planes when I was a kid.
    It could have been earlier than 1955 but not that much earlier as I was
    born in '49

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    philo, Oct 1, 2012
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    On 10/01/2012 06:30 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    > On 2012-10-01 15:46:44 -0700, philo <> said:
    >
    >> On 10/01/2012 05:31 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>> On 2012-10-01 11:41:25 -0700, philo <> said:
    >>>
    >>>> WOW
    >>>>
    >>>> great!
    >>>>

    >>
    >>
    >> I am absolutely positive I saw flying wing planes when I was a kid.
    >> It could have been earlier than 1955 but not that much earlier as I
    >> was born in '49

    >
    > Nothing wrong with that! I am also a '49er, from the shallow end in
    > February.
    >




    So what would it have been that I saw somewhere around 1954???

    I have a very good memory and know I saw a flying wing plane on several
    occasions

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    philo, Oct 2, 2012
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  4. philo

    philo Guest

    On 10/01/2012 08:08 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
    > On 2012.10.01 20:15 , philo wrote:
    >> On 10/01/2012 06:30 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>> On 2012-10-01 15:46:44 -0700, philo <> said:
    >>>
    >>>> On 10/01/2012 05:31 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>>>> On 2012-10-01 11:41:25 -0700, philo <> said:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> WOW
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> great!
    >>>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>

    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> So what would it have been that I saw somewhere around 1954???
    >>
    >> I have a very good memory and know I saw a flying wing plane on several
    >> occasions

    >
    > At the time there were:
    >
    > - N-1M (last flight 1945)
    > - N-9MB (last flight 194x, and then restored ('duck's photo))
    > - YB-35 (last flight 194x, scrapped)
    > - YB-49 (scrapped around 1953)
    >
    > There were German and British attempts, but you didn't see them flying
    > in the US.
    >
    > Maybe you're having a vivid recollection of a movie clip?
    >


    As I said, I have a very good memory . I am *absolutely* certain I've
    seen them when I was a kid. FWIW: I lived in Green Bay, WI (USA) at the time
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    philo, Oct 2, 2012
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  5. philo

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    In article <2012100119180097157-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
    savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com says...
    >
    > On 2012-10-01 17:15:08 -0700, philo <> said:
    >
    > > On 10/01/2012 06:30 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    > >> On 2012-10-01 15:46:44 -0700, philo <> said:
    > >>
    > >>> On 10/01/2012 05:31 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    > >>>> On 2012-10-01 11:41:25 -0700, philo <> said:
    > >>>>
    > >>>>> WOW
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> great!
    > >>>>>
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>> I am absolutely positive I saw flying wing planes when I was a kid.
    > >>> It could have been earlier than 1955 but not that much earlier as I
    > >>> was born in '49
    > >>
    > >> Nothing wrong with that! I am also a '49er, from the shallow end in
    > >> February.
    > >>

    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > So what would it have been that I saw somewhere around 1954???
    > >
    > > I have a very good memory and know I saw a flying wing plane on several
    > > occasions

    >
    > I have no idea. The likelihood of seeing a flying wing between 1953 and
    > 2001 is slim to none.
    > From 1941-1952, you would have had to see one at Edwards AFB/Moroc Dry
    > Lake, or the bombing range at Nellis AFB. Later we had all sorts of
    > things going on including the lift bodies used in the '60s in the
    > development of the Space Shuttle. and now we have the B2 Bomber.
    > < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flying_wing_aircraft >


    They did show up in movies and on television from time to time. The
    highest profile was I think in "War of the Worlds".
     
    J. Clarke, Oct 2, 2012
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  6. philo

    philo Guest

    On 10/01/2012 09:42 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    > On 2012-10-01 18:19:50 -0700, philo <> said:
    >
    >> On 10/01/2012 08:08 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
    >>> On 2012.10.01 20:15 , philo wrote:
    >>>> On 10/01/2012 06:30 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>>>> On 2012-10-01 15:46:44 -0700, philo <> said:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> On 10/01/2012 05:31 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>>>>>> On 2012-10-01 11:41:25 -0700, philo <> said:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> WOW
    >>>>>>>>

    <snip>

    > However, living in Wisconsin, you might have witnessed some of the
    > Oshkosh Experimental Aircraft Association efforts, which started in
    > 1953. Now they certainly had some strange aircraft show up for their
    > annual fly-in.



    Yes, being not too far from Oshkosh I'm thinking I must have seen some
    kind of strange plane that in my mind at least may have been somewhat
    similar to the flying wing.

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    philo, Oct 2, 2012
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  7. philo

    philo Guest

    On 10/02/2012 12:08 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
    > In article <2012100119180097157-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
    > savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com says...
    >>
    >> On 2012-10-01 17:15:08 -0700, philo <> said:
    >>
    >>> On 10/01/2012 06:30 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>>> On 2012-10-01 15:
    >>>
    >>>X



    <snip>
    d memory and know I saw a flying wing plane on several
    >>> occasions

    >>
    >> I have no idea. The likelihood of seeing a flying wing between 1953 and
    >> 2001 is slim to none.
    >> From 1941-1952, you would have had to see one at Edwards AFB/Moroc Dry
    >> Lake, or the bombing range at Nellis AFB. Later we had all sorts of
    >> things going on including the lift bodies used in the '60s in the
    >> development of the Space Shuttle. and now we have the B2 Bomber.
    >> < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flying_wing_aircraft >

    >
    > They did show up in movies and on television from time to time. The
    > highest profile was I think in "War of the Worlds".
    >
    >

    Very weird. I absolutely know it was not TV or a movie
     
    philo, Oct 2, 2012
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  8. philo

    philo Guest

    On 10/02/2012 03:10 AM, philo wrote:
    > On 10/02/2012 12:08 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
    >> In article <2012100119180097157-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
    >> savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com says...
    >>>
    >>> On 2012-10-01 17:15:08 -0700, philo <> said:
    >>>
    >>>> On 10/01/2012 06:30 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>>>> On 2012-10-01 15:
    >>>>
    >>>> X



    <snip>

    After doing a lot of looking around at aircraft, my feeling it that what
    I saw must have been a P-38 . Not a flying wing but close enough to have
    tricked my old memories that are probably not quite so good as I thought.

    Does anyone think the P-38 is what I must have seen???
     
    philo, Oct 2, 2012
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    philo Guest

    On 10/03/2012 02:52 PM, Frank S wrote:
    >
    > "philo" <> wrote in message
    > news:k4ff8l$ggi$...
    >> On 10/02/2012 03:10 AM, philo wrote:
    >>> On 10/02/2012 12:08 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
    >>>> In article <2012100119180097157-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
    >>>> savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com says...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 2012-10-01 17:15:08 -0700, philo <> said:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> On 10/01/2012 06:30 PM, Savageduck wrote:
    >>>>>>> On 2012-10-01 15:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> X

    >>
    >>
    >> <snip>
    >>
    >> After doing a lot of looking around at aircraft, my feeling it that
    >> what I saw must have been a P-38 . Not a flying wing but close enough
    >> to have tricked my old memories that are probably not quite so good as
    >> I thought.
    >>
    >> Does anyone think the P-38 is what I must have seen???

    >
    > Doubtful. They are dissimilar enough that what you saw was probably what
    > you first thought you saw.
    >
    >


    <snipped for brevity>

    Even though my childhood memories are good...I am hardly infallible. It
    was such a long time ago that I very well could have been wrong. The
    P-38 was an unusual enough plane that it is likely it stuck in my mind.

    FWIW: When I was in the army I was in air defense artillery and was
    drilled weekly on air craft recognition. I was not particularly good at
    it but am pretty sure I was good enough to know a Soviet from an
    American plane.
     
    philo, Oct 4, 2012
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