Re: Sipgate Survey

Discussion in 'UK VOIP' started by Philippe Deleye, Dec 13, 2008.

  1. "Jono" <> wrote in message
    news:...

    > Just had a call from Paul at Sipgate, "doing a survey to find out what
    > softfone I use" !
    >

    Can't be originating from Sipgate
    They know exactly which softphone you use
    They know which hardware you use (e.g. FritzBox) and even the Firmware
    version ...
    If you login with your account details on the sipgate website, you see the
    list of ATA's tou are registered with ..

    Philippe
    Philippe Deleye, Dec 13, 2008
    #1
    1. Advertising

  2. Philippe Deleye

    Graham. Guest

    "Philippe Deleye" <> wrote in message
    news:49440656$0$2860$...
    >
    > "Jono" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >
    >> Just had a call from Paul at Sipgate, "doing a survey to find out what
    >> softfone I use" !
    >>

    > Can't be originating from Sipgate


    Why can't it be them?


    > They know exactly which softphone you use
    > They know which hardware you use (e.g. FritzBox) and even the Firmware
    > version ...
    > If you login with your account details on the sipgate website, you see the
    > list of ATA's tou are registered with ..
    >
    > Philippe



    That doesn't preclude them lying as to the reason for their call.


    --
    Graham.

    %Profound_observation%
    Graham., Dec 13, 2008
    #2
    1. Advertising

  3. Philippe Deleye

    Ivor Jones Guest

    In news:gi13o1$6rn$,
    Graham. <> typed, for some strange, unexplained reason:
    : "Philippe Deleye" <> wrote in message
    : news:49440656$0$2860$...
    : >
    : > "Jono" <> wrote in message
    : > news:...
    : >
    : >> Just had a call from Paul at Sipgate, "doing a survey to find out
    : >> what softfone I use" !
    : >>
    : > Can't be originating from Sipgate
    :
    : Why can't it be them?

    For a start, calling from one Sipgate number to another it's not possible
    to withhold your number. Setting withheld on the website only works to
    PSTN numbers.


    Ivor
    Ivor Jones, Dec 14, 2008
    #3
  4. Philippe Deleye

    Chris Davies Guest

    Ivor Jones <> wrote:
    > For a start, calling from one Sipgate number to another it's not possible
    > to withhold your number.


    Isn't that half of one of these EU privacy directive thingies? (ISTR one
    that mandated anonymous call rejection and also requiring people to be
    able to withhold their number.)

    Chris
    Chris Davies, Dec 14, 2008
    #4
  5. Philippe Deleye

    Ivor Jones Guest

    In news:,
    Chris Davies <> typed, for some strange,
    unexplained reason:
    : Ivor Jones <> wrote:
    : > For a start, calling from one Sipgate number to another it's not
    : > possible to withhold your number.
    :
    : Isn't that half of one of these EU privacy directive thingies? (ISTR
    : one that mandated anonymous call rejection and also requiring people
    : to be able to withhold their number.)
    :
    : Chris

    I have no idea. But it's still not possible to withhold your number when
    calling one Sipgate number from another. It doesn't really bother me, but
    if it's important to you ask Sipgate and let me know what they say :)

    Ivor
    Ivor Jones, Dec 14, 2008
    #5
  6. Philippe Deleye

    Graham. Guest

    "Ivor Jones" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > In news:,
    > Chris Davies <> typed, for some strange,
    > unexplained reason:
    > : Ivor Jones <> wrote:
    > : > For a start, calling from one Sipgate number to another it's not
    > : > possible to withhold your number.
    > :
    > : Isn't that half of one of these EU privacy directive thingies? (ISTR
    > : one that mandated anonymous call rejection and also requiring people
    > : to be able to withhold their number.)
    > :
    > : Chris
    >
    > I have no idea. But it's still not possible to withhold your number when
    > calling one Sipgate number from another. It doesn't really bother me, but
    > if it's important to you ask Sipgate and let me know what they say :)
    >
    > Ivor


    I'm not an expert by any means, but if it's end-to-end SIP, wouldn't
    the SIP address of the originator be in the SIP message, and in the
    case of Sipgate isn't that [6 digit id]@sipgate.co.uk?
    --
    Graham.

    %Profound_observation%
    Graham., Dec 14, 2008
    #6
  7. Philippe Deleye

    Guest

    On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:53:28 +0000, Chris Davies
    <> wrote:

    >Ivor Jones <> wrote:
    >> For a start, calling from one Sipgate number to another it's not possible
    >> to withhold your number.

    >
    >Isn't that half of one of these EU privacy directive thingies? (ISTR one
    >that mandated anonymous call rejection and also requiring people to be
    >able to withhold their number.)

    Correct but Sipgate thinks they are totally above the law of any land
    and can do just whatever they wish with customers ,of all the
    companies in the world being driven under due to the credit crunch
    Sipgate should be the next to go .
    , Dec 14, 2008
    #7
  8. Philippe Deleye

    Ivor Jones Guest

    In news:,
    <> typed, for some strange,
    unexplained reason:
    : On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:53:28 +0000, Chris Davies
    : <> wrote:
    :
    : >Ivor Jones <> wrote:
    : >> For a start, calling from one Sipgate number to another it's not
    : >> possible to withhold your number.
    : >
    : >Isn't that half of one of these EU privacy directive thingies? (ISTR
    : >one that mandated anonymous call rejection and also requiring people
    : >to be able to withhold their number.)
    : Correct but Sipgate thinks they are totally above the law of any land
    : and can do just whatever they wish with customers ,of all the
    : companies in the world being driven under due to the credit crunch
    : Sipgate should be the next to go .

    Yes Ron.

    Yawn..............


    Ivor
    Ivor Jones, Dec 14, 2008
    #8
  9. Philippe Deleye

    Ivor Jones Guest

    In news:gi3nuj$l7s$,
    Graham. <> typed, for some strange, unexplained reason:

    [snip]

    : I'm not an expert by any means, but if it's end-to-end SIP, wouldn't
    : the SIP address of the originator be in the SIP message, and in the
    : case of Sipgate isn't that [6 digit id]@sipgate.co.uk?

    Yes you're right, that could explain it.

    Ivor
    Ivor Jones, Dec 14, 2008
    #9
  10. Philippe Deleye

    Guest

    On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:06:08 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
    <> wrote:

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    , Dec 15, 2008
    #10
  11. Philippe Deleye

    PAJ Guest

    On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:07:44 GMT, wrote:

    You really are a COCK!
    PAJ, Dec 15, 2008
    #11
  12. Philippe Deleye

    Guest

    On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:52:22 +0000, PAJ <>
    wrote:

    >On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:07:44 GMT, wrote:
    >
    >You really are a COCK!

    It takes one to know one .
    , Dec 15, 2008
    #12
  13. Philippe Deleye

    PAJ Guest

    On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:27:35 GMT, wrote:

    >On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:52:22 +0000, PAJ <>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:07:44 GMT, wrote:
    >>
    >>You really are a COCK!

    >
    >It takes one to know one .


    Then am I glad I don't know a cock like you!
    PAJ, Dec 15, 2008
    #13
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