Re: [SI] On The Road is up

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by PeterN, Aug 21, 2012.

  1. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    On 8/20/2012 5:07 PM, SI Committee wrote:
    >
    > http://www.pbase.com/shootin/the_road
    >

    Nice set of images. I am happy to see a large number of participants. My
    comments follow;

    Lazardo:
    Socks - interesting grouping. I am sure that your fellow hikers are
    happy that you wash your socks.
    Road 2- nice strong lines. A bit more of the cola variation in the
    mountains can be brought out in post processing. See:

    <http://www.amazon.com/Photoshop-LAB-Color-Adventures-Colorspace/dp/0321356780>

    3 - good exposure interesting patterns. Very little subject matter.

    Tim Conway:
    1. a nice grab shot -it would be stronger if you got rid of the haze
    and sharpened more.
    2.strong semi-silhouette image. the bright sky at the top is a little
    distracting.


    Eric Stevens:
    1 A bit too drab and dreary for my taste.
    2. nice strong composition. My eye keeps being drawn to the colored
    railing.
    3. Very interesting street shot. You have managed to capture the bustle
    of a city. Even the girl walking out of the picture is not too disturbing.

    Alam Browne:
    1. Nice strong composition. Could use a lot of sharpening. Much too
    soft for this type of image.
    2. A nice pleasant scene. A nice, attractive young lady sitting on the
    bench would add a lot.
    3. Works very well as an abstract. I even tried turning it sideways and
    it still worked. Well done.

    Bowser:
    1. Nice composition. Not quite sharp enough for my taste. I would have
    eliminated the road sign and made a vertical crop on the right starting
    with the edge of the pavement.
    2.very interesting colors.would be even stronger with a mild
    application of color intensity in the rocks. See my reference above.
    3. well done. It works nicely as a black-and-white. Is the horizon
    straight, or is it my eyes?

    Duck:
    1. Sorry, I've seen much better work from you. There are too many
    distracting elements, too much haze in the background and the image just
    doesn't work for me as a landscape.
    2. Nice scene. It's a good capture of people enjoying themselves on a
    pleasant day. The parking around the no parking sign adds some humor.
    3. Good pattern. Would benefit if Tony Cooper's armadillo was in that
    scene.

    Tony Cooper:
    1. Who did the deed. I like the sharp foreground and the gradual
    blurring of the background.
    2. Did they know you were shooting them? You should have asked the
    second officer to move so that the tree would not be growing out of the
    top of his head.
    3. Was he trying to run the bike off the road?

    Cleary c:
    Biker good color melange. I like to see this type of image either tack
    sharp throughout, or with some type of even blur. Here, the blubbering
    in the background doesn't seem to work for me.
    Off Road - cropping off the top of the bus would enhance the image. The
    white top tends to draw my eye away from the pattern of peeling paint
    and rust.
    No Go - this looks like an ad for Cialis. I would crop the bottom from
    the top of the rock on the right.

    Bob Coe:
    1. What an interesting pattern. Those cracks and cobblestones make.
    2. I like this old train station. Unfortunately, the commentary has
    tended to spoil the solitary beauty of this image. Elimination of the
    mailbox and application of sharpening would help.
    3. The placement of that house is a trial lawyer's delight. Who will be
    next to hit that building?

    Martha Coe:
    1. A scene that makes a political statement.
    2. That beautiful strong machine has not had the justice it deserves. I
    would have shot that with more isolation and much higher contrast on a
    cloudy day, to emphasize the strength of the steamroller. The yellow
    insulation on the wires and the red cones detract from what you are
    trying to say. It is not always necessary to show the entire piece of
    machinery together with its surrounding environment, unless you are
    making a statement.
    3. Once again, you can't fight nature.

    FrankEss:
    1. Nice seeing nice capture, showing the loneliness of the open road.
    2. Good strong capture your use of the diagonals adds strength to what
    could otherwise be a routine image. Each person in that crowd is hoping
    that their favorite wins.
    3. Wow! How much would you charge me to let me sit alongside you in
    that race? Nicely done.

    Otter:
    1. Nice scene. I see two separate images. I would have cropped out the
    left-hand portion to show the strength and lines of that tree as
    contrasted with that old looking building. The portion on the left
    creates an entirely different mood for me.
    2. Good capture. Does that woman really need another meal? Is the young
    child trying to tell her something?
    3.I would award that shot best of the group. Great use of colors. Good
    use of the capabilities of your camera to create an very interesting image.

    Dan Petre:
    1. It looks as if you are attempting a soft focus pastel image. Sorry,
    this one just doesn't work for me. Perhaps if it was shot from a
    slightly different angle, you might have achieved the effect you were
    looking for.
    2. Much better use of soft focus then your first image. I would have
    considered a horizontal crop from the top of the grass berm on the left.
    3. This image is a bit too static and out of focus for my taste.

    KPetre:
    1. A nice well done, pleasant scene. From a compositional standpoint,
    there isn't much to say except that you have done a good job.
    2. A nice, well exposed image from a compositional standpoint. I would
    have used a higher ISO and smaller aperture to get more depth of field.
    I think this type of image should either be tack sharp or painterly soft.
    3. Sorry, this image just doesn't capture my interest.

    Paul Furman - Good to see you posting image again. Your use of soft
    focus with a slight haze adds a lot of mystery. That does not look like
    a place I would willingly go in the middle of the night. Well done.

    Yours truly: I am deliberately refraining from commenting on these images.













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    PeterN
     
    PeterN, Aug 21, 2012
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  2. PeterN

    otter Guest

    Re: On The Road is up

    On Aug 20, 8:51 pm, PeterN <> wrote:
    > On 8/20/2012 5:07 PM, SI Committee wrote:
    >
    > >http://www.pbase.com/shootin/the_road
    > >

    > Otter:
    >         1. Nice scene. I see two separate images. I would have cropped out the
    > left-hand portion to show the strength and lines of that tree as
    > contrasted with that old looking building. The portion on the left
    > creates an entirely different mood for me.


    I had mixed feelings about which Luckenbach picture to use. I have
    several other versions of this scene, some cropped like you suggest.
    I picked this one because the truck shows that is a road, even though
    the truck is stopped on the road with the door open, and the guy is at
    the booth buying a beer.

    It's not a "great" picture, but I like the colors, and it fit the
    mandate.

    >         3.I would award that shot best of the group. Great use ofcolors. Good
    > use of the capabilities of your camera to create an very interesting image.


    Thanks! It was an accident, as I mentioned to the Duck, but I do like
    the result. I will need to play with this technique again.
     
    otter, Aug 21, 2012
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  3. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    On 8/21/2012 8:04 AM, Bowser wrote:
    > On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:51:05 -0400, PeterN
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >> On 8/20/2012 5:07 PM, SI Committee wrote:
    >>>

    >
    >>
    >> Bowser:
    >> 1. Nice composition. Not quite sharp enough for my taste. I would have
    >> eliminated the road sign and made a vertical crop on the right starting
    >> with the edge of the pavement.

    >
    > I left in the road sign to place the shot, even though it's a little
    > blurred. Hard to get sharp shots hand-holding while riding. :)
    >



    Yup. You could get sharp pains if something like a limb gets broken. Try
    using a higher ISO and shutter speed. Or, cheat and put a Gaussian blur
    over the whole image.


    >> 2.very interesting colors.would be even stronger with a mild
    >> application of color intensity in the rocks. See my reference above.

    >
    >> 3. well done. It works nicely as a black-and-white. Is the horizon
    >> straight, or is it my eyes?

    >
    > The camera was level, it's the terrain that's got a tilt. I liked it
    > better as a B&W as well. Some slight tweaking to draw out the contrast
    > in the road made a lot of diffeence.
    >



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    Peter
     
    PeterN, Aug 21, 2012
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    tony cooper Guest

    On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:51:05 -0400, PeterN
    <> wrote:

    >On 8/20/2012 5:07 PM, SI Committee wrote:
    >>
    >> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/the_road
    >>

    >Tony Cooper:
    > 1. Who did the deed. I like the sharp foreground and the gradual
    >blurring of the background.
    > 2. Did they know you were shooting them? You should have asked the
    >second officer to move so that the tree would not be growing out of the
    >top of his head.


    I would have liked to have captured something else in this image...one
    of the cops writing a ticket for an already-stopped car. However, I
    have to admit to have felt a bit nervous standing across the street
    hiding in the bushes photographing this scene. I'm not sure the cops
    really want to be photographed, and I got out of there before they saw
    me.

    > 3. Was he trying to run the bike off the road?


    Actually, that's a very polite and considerate driver in the Honda.
    According to the bicyclists, drivers very seldom yield any space to
    the bicycle rider.


    --
    Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
     
    tony cooper, Aug 21, 2012
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  5. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    Re: On The Road is up

    On 8/20/2012 11:42 PM, otter wrote:
    > On Aug 20, 8:51 pm, PeterN <> wrote:
    >> On 8/20/2012 5:07 PM, SI Committee wrote:
    >>
    >>> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/the_road
    >>>

    >> Otter:
    >> 1. Nice scene. I see two separate images. I would have cropped out the
    >> left-hand portion to show the strength and lines of that tree as
    >> contrasted with that old looking building. The portion on the left
    >> creates an entirely different mood for me.

    >
    > I had mixed feelings about which Luckenbach picture to use. I have
    > several other versions of this scene, some cropped like you suggest.
    > I picked this one because the truck shows that is a road, even though
    > the truck is stopped on the road with the door open, and the guy is at
    > the booth buying a beer.
    >
    > It's not a "great" picture, but I like the colors, and it fit the
    > mandate.
    >
    >> 3.I would award that shot best of the group. Great use of colors. Good
    >> use of the capabilities of your camera to create an very interesting image.

    >
    > Thanks! It was an accident, as I mentioned to the Duck, but I do like
    > the result. I will need to play with this technique again.
    >

    As with most blur effect you can never be certain about your final
    image, but as you play you will get some idea.

    --
    Peter
     
    PeterN, Aug 21, 2012
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    Robert Coe Guest

    On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:51:05 -0400, PeterN <>
    wrote:
    : Bob Coe:
    : 1. What an interesting pattern. Those cracks and cobblestones make.

    Thanks. I may try to photograph it again in the spring, when it might be even
    more interesting.

    : 2. I like this old train station. Unfortunately, the commentary has
    : tended to spoil the solitary beauty of this image.

    Was it what I said or the way I said it? I'm not totally opposed to rail
    trails; I've even ridden on them myself. But I hate to see them replace
    perfectly serviceable railroads while our roads get increasingly choked with
    traffic.

    : Elimination of the mailbox and application of sharpening would help.

    One point I removed from my caption (because it had gotten too long) is that
    the RR station became a post office. So arguably the roadside mailbox isn't
    expendable, since most post offices have one. The irony is that cuts in the
    Postal Service may now cause the post office to be closed. I don't know what
    happens to the building then. I doubt there's enough traffic on that road to
    support a Starbuck's.

    : 3. The placement of that house is a trial lawyer's delight. Who will be
    : next to hit that building?

    Lawyers for the building owners don't seem to have been too successful. They
    haven't managed to get the missing stones replaced. (That building is just
    down the road and across a creek from the RR station, BTW.)

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Aug 23, 2012
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  7. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    On 8/23/2012 6:15 AM, Robert Coe wrote:
    > On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:51:05 -0400, PeterN <>
    > wrote:
    > : Bob Coe:
    > : 1. What an interesting pattern. Those cracks and cobblestones make.
    >
    > Thanks. I may try to photograph it again in the spring, when it might be even
    > more interesting.
    >
    > : 2. I like this old train station. Unfortunately, the commentary has
    > : tended to spoil the solitary beauty of this image.
    >
    > Was it what I said or the way I said it? I'm not totally opposed to rail
    > trails; I've even ridden on them myself. But I hate to see them replace
    > perfectly serviceable railroads while our roads get increasingly choked with
    > traffic.


    It's a matter of economics. There is something about cross country train
    travel that makes it a relaxing experience. I agree we should use more
    high speed rail lines.

    For a while my daughter lived in an apartment that had been converted
    from a slaughter house. The RR tracks formally used to transport the
    cattle ran right next door to her apartment. The bulk of that line has
    been converted to a park.

    <http://www.thehighline.org/>



    Don't get me wrong. It's just that I have a thing. Titles can add a lot
    to an image, unless the purpose of the image is to illustrate a
    documentary, commentary reduces my imagination. It's like telling the
    ending of a good mystery.


    >
    > : Elimination of the mailbox and application of sharpening would help.
    >
    > One point I removed from my caption (because it had gotten too long) is that
    > the RR station became a post office. So arguably the roadside mailbox isn't
    > expendable, since most post offices have one. The irony is that cuts in the
    > Postal Service may now cause the post office to be closed. I don't know what
    > happens to the building then. I doubt there's enough traffic on that road to
    > support a Starbuck's.



    I enjoy converted old RR stations.

    >
    > : 3. The placement of that house is a trial lawyer's delight. Who will be
    > : next to hit that building?
    >
    > Lawyers for the building owners don't seem to have been too successful. They
    > haven't managed to get the missing stones replaced. (That building is just
    > down the road and across a creek from the RR station, BTW.)
    >
    > Bob
    >



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    PeterN
     
    PeterN, Aug 23, 2012
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  8. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    Re: On The Road is up

    On 8/20/2012 11:42 PM, otter wrote:
    > On Aug 20, 8:51 pm, PeterN <> wrote:
    >> On 8/20/2012 5:07 PM, SI Committee wrote:
    >>
    >>> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/the_road
    >>>

    >> Otter:
    >> 1. Nice scene. I see two separate images. I would have cropped out the
    >> left-hand portion to show the strength and lines of that tree as
    >> contrasted with that old looking building. The portion on the left
    >> creates an entirely different mood for me.

    >
    > I had mixed feelings about which Luckenbach picture to use. I have
    > several other versions of this scene, some cropped like you suggest.
    > I picked this one because the truck shows that is a road, even though
    > the truck is stopped on the road with the door open, and the guy is at
    > the booth buying a beer.
    >
    > It's not a "great" picture, but I like the colors, and it fit the
    > mandate.
    >
    >> 3.I would award that shot best of the group. Great use of colors. Good
    >> use of the capabilities of your camera to create an very interesting image.

    >
    > Thanks! It was an accident, as I mentioned to the Duck, but I do like
    > the result. I will need to play with this technique again.
    >


    I have a lot of "blind squirrel" images. <G>
    Seriously, most of my images are unusable. But if I set up enough, I
    have to get lucky.

    --

    PeterN
    Fondly remembering the days when "getting lucky" didn't refer to a
    decent photograph.
     
    PeterN, Aug 23, 2012
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