Re: Possible to stop M. Updates from reaching Yahoo?

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by John Seeliger, Sep 22, 2003.

  1. "gyrobob" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > My box is getting clogged up too!! I have exactly the same problem.
    > I asked Yahoo for help and they just send back generic form letters.


    Yep. I tried calling them and the recorded message said they don't offer
    phone support for their free services, unfortunately.

    >
    > I'm pretty sure those e-mails aren't from Microsoft.
    >
    > I don't know where they come from, but they sure are screwing up my
    > inbox.
    >
    > How do we stop this??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    There's probably no solution until Yahoo! fixes the problem.

    >
    > Ferrante <> wrote in message

    news:<>...
    > > Is there any way to stop the flood of Microsoft updates within Yahoo
    > > Mail? I am getting several hundred everyday and my mailbox is
    > > constantly getting filled up. Anyway to stop it before it gets to my
    > > mailbox? Even going to Junk or Trash still counts towards my 6 meg
    > > limit.
    > >
    > > Thanks in advance for your help.
    > >
    > > Mark Ferrante
     
    John Seeliger, Sep 22, 2003
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  2. John Seeliger

    Eugene Kent Guest

    First it is best to contact your ISP's abuse person.
    I received up to 1300 e-mails in one day.
    Now they have dropped back and continue to drop.
    The best thing to do is delete the things. It takes less than three minuets
    to delete them. Then go to Edit and open Deleted Items Folder. And they are
    all deleted at the click of your mouse.

    "John Seeliger" <> wrote in message
    news:bkn8qs$3fr00$-berlin.de...
    > "gyrobob" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > My box is getting clogged up too!! I have exactly the same problem.
    > > I asked Yahoo for help and they just send back generic form letters.

    >
    > Yep. I tried calling them and the recorded message said they don't offer
    > phone support for their free services, unfortunately.
    >
    > >
    > > I'm pretty sure those e-mails aren't from Microsoft.
    > >
    > > I don't know where they come from, but they sure are screwing up my
    > > inbox.
    > >
    > > How do we stop this??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    >
    > There's probably no solution until Yahoo! fixes the problem.
    >
    > >
    > > Ferrante <> wrote in message

    > news:<>...
    > > > Is there any way to stop the flood of Microsoft updates within Yahoo
    > > > Mail? I am getting several hundred everyday and my mailbox is
    > > > constantly getting filled up. Anyway to stop it before it gets to my
    > > > mailbox? Even going to Junk or Trash still counts towards my 6 meg
    > > > limit.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks in advance for your help.
    > > >
    > > > Mark Ferrante

    >
    >
     
    Eugene Kent, Sep 23, 2003
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  3. Or you could download and install Mail Washer, you can check whats on the
    server first before downloading any of the emails onto your machine, then
    you can choose to process, bounce or delete the emails from the server.

    "Eugene Kent" <> wrote in message
    news:3f6f806f$0$52131$...
    > First it is best to contact your ISP's abuse person.
    > I received up to 1300 e-mails in one day.
    > Now they have dropped back and continue to drop.
    > The best thing to do is delete the things. It takes less than three

    minuets
    > to delete them. Then go to Edit and open Deleted Items Folder. And they

    are
    > all deleted at the click of your mouse.
    >
    > "John Seeliger" <> wrote in message
    > news:bkn8qs$3fr00$-berlin.de...
    > > "gyrobob" <> wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > > > My box is getting clogged up too!! I have exactly the same problem.
    > > > I asked Yahoo for help and they just send back generic form letters.

    > >
    > > Yep. I tried calling them and the recorded message said they don't

    offer
    > > phone support for their free services, unfortunately.
    > >
    > > >
    > > > I'm pretty sure those e-mails aren't from Microsoft.
    > > >
    > > > I don't know where they come from, but they sure are screwing up my
    > > > inbox.
    > > >
    > > > How do we stop this??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    > >
    > > There's probably no solution until Yahoo! fixes the problem.
    > >
    > > >
    > > > Ferrante <> wrote in message

    > > news:<>...
    > > > > Is there any way to stop the flood of Microsoft updates within Yahoo
    > > > > Mail? I am getting several hundred everyday and my mailbox is
    > > > > constantly getting filled up. Anyway to stop it before it gets to my
    > > > > mailbox? Even going to Junk or Trash still counts towards my 6 meg
    > > > > limit.
    > > > >
    > > > > Thanks in advance for your help.
    > > > >
    > > > > Mark Ferrante

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    kljkkkkkkkkkk, Sep 23, 2003
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  4. John Seeliger

    MaryL Guest

    One problem with Yahoo (as far as I can tell) is that it is on the Internet,
    and mail takes up space in the boxes even before the user opens the account.
    For example, my Yahoo box always shows 117 percent of capacity within a
    couple of hours of the time I last cleaned it out! Most of this is MS spam
    that has been redirected to the bulk box. None of it has been opened, but
    it still takes up more than 100 percent of my allocated space before I even
    open my Yahoo account, so no legitimate mail can reach me. I have used that
    address for newsgroups. By contrast, I use Eudora for private mail. That
    mail program rests on my hard disk, and Norton intercepts any attempts to
    download and gives me a warning. This may not be a good technical
    explanation, but it is the best explanation I have.

    Would Mail Washer solve that problem with Yahoo? I have opened another
    account (used with this message) and included words that need to be deleted
    to access it. So far, that has worked -- but it has been only a few days.

    MaryL
    (take out the litter to respond)
    "kljkkkkkkkkkk" <> wrote in
    message news:bko111$lum$...
    > Or you could download and install Mail Washer, you can check whats on the
    > server first before downloading any of the emails onto your machine, then
    > you can choose to process, bounce or delete the emails from the server.
    >
    > "Eugene Kent" <> wrote in message
    > news:3f6f806f$0$52131$...
    > > First it is best to contact your ISP's abuse person.
    > > I received up to 1300 e-mails in one day.
    > > Now they have dropped back and continue to drop.
    > > The best thing to do is delete the things. It takes less than three

    > minuets
    > > to delete them. Then go to Edit and open Deleted Items Folder. And they

    > are
    > > all deleted at the click of your mouse.
    > >
    > > "John Seeliger" <> wrote in message
    > > news:bkn8qs$3fr00$-berlin.de...
    > > > "gyrobob" <> wrote in message
    > > > news:...
    > > > > My box is getting clogged up too!! I have exactly the same problem.
    > > > > I asked Yahoo for help and they just send back generic form letters.
    > > >
    > > > Yep. I tried calling them and the recorded message said they don't

    > offer
    > > > phone support for their free services, unfortunately.
    > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > I'm pretty sure those e-mails aren't from Microsoft.
    > > > >
    > > > > I don't know where they come from, but they sure are screwing up my
    > > > > inbox.
    > > > >
    > > > > How do we stop this??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    > > >
    > > > There's probably no solution until Yahoo! fixes the problem.
    > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > Ferrante <> wrote in message
    > > > news:<>...
    > > > > > Is there any way to stop the flood of Microsoft updates within

    Yahoo
    > > > > > Mail? I am getting several hundred everyday and my mailbox is
    > > > > > constantly getting filled up. Anyway to stop it before it gets to

    my
    > > > > > mailbox? Even going to Junk or Trash still counts towards my 6 meg
    > > > > > limit.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Thanks in advance for your help.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Mark Ferrante
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    MaryL, Sep 23, 2003
    #4
  5. "MaryL" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > One problem with Yahoo (as far as I can tell) is that it is on the

    Internet,
    > and mail takes up space in the boxes even before the user opens the

    account.
    > For example, my Yahoo box always shows 117 percent of capacity within a
    > couple of hours of the time I last cleaned it out! Most of this is MS

    spam
    > that has been redirected to the bulk box. None of it has been opened, but
    > it still takes up more than 100 percent of my allocated space before I

    even
    > open my Yahoo account, so no legitimate mail can reach me. I have used

    that
    > address for newsgroups. By contrast, I use Eudora for private mail. That
    > mail program rests on my hard disk, and Norton intercepts any attempts to
    > download and gives me a warning. This may not be a good technical
    > explanation, but it is the best explanation I have.
    >
    > Would Mail Washer solve that problem with Yahoo?


    Only if Mail Washer was running on Yahoo!'s server.
     
    John Seeliger, Sep 23, 2003
    #5
  6. John Seeliger

    Ferrante Guest

    On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:52:42 -0500, "MaryL"
    <> wrote:

    >One problem with Yahoo (as far as I can tell) is that it is on the Internet,
    >and mail takes up space in the boxes even before the user opens the account.
    >For example, my Yahoo box always shows 117 percent of capacity within a
    >couple of hours of the time I last cleaned it out!


    Yes, everytime I log on, I am at 117 percent, and that is after only a
    couple of hours. I delete it and two hours later, the same thing!
    Screw this. This only seems to be happening to those of us who post on
    Usenet, to the degree we are getting it.

    I have opened a another e-mail account and have notified my friends of
    that address and that is all I will use it for. Screw the other crap.

    Mark









    Most of this is MS spam
    >that has been redirected to the bulk box. None of it has been opened, but
    >it still takes up more than 100 percent of my allocated space before I even
    >open my Yahoo account, so no legitimate mail can reach me. I have used that
    >address for newsgroups. By contrast, I use Eudora for private mail. That
    >mail program rests on my hard disk, and Norton intercepts any attempts to
    >download and gives me a warning. This may not be a good technical
    >explanation, but it is the best explanation I have.
    >
    >Would Mail Washer solve that problem with Yahoo? I have opened another
    >account (used with this message) and included words that need to be deleted
    >to access it. So far, that has worked -- but it has been only a few days.
    >
    >MaryL
    >(take out the litter to respond)
    >"kljkkkkkkkkkk" <> wrote in
    >message news:bko111$lum$...
    >> Or you could download and install Mail Washer, you can check whats on the
    >> server first before downloading any of the emails onto your machine, then
    >> you can choose to process, bounce or delete the emails from the server.
    >>
    >> "Eugene Kent" <> wrote in message
    >> news:3f6f806f$0$52131$...
    >> > First it is best to contact your ISP's abuse person.
    >> > I received up to 1300 e-mails in one day.
    >> > Now they have dropped back and continue to drop.
    >> > The best thing to do is delete the things. It takes less than three

    >> minuets
    >> > to delete them. Then go to Edit and open Deleted Items Folder. And they

    >> are
    >> > all deleted at the click of your mouse.
    >> >
    >> > "John Seeliger" <> wrote in message
    >> > news:bkn8qs$3fr00$-berlin.de...
    >> > > "gyrobob" <> wrote in message
    >> > > news:...
    >> > > > My box is getting clogged up too!! I have exactly the same problem.
    >> > > > I asked Yahoo for help and they just send back generic form letters.
    >> > >
    >> > > Yep. I tried calling them and the recorded message said they don't

    >> offer
    >> > > phone support for their free services, unfortunately.
    >> > >
    >> > > >
    >> > > > I'm pretty sure those e-mails aren't from Microsoft.
    >> > > >
    >> > > > I don't know where they come from, but they sure are screwing up my
    >> > > > inbox.
    >> > > >
    >> > > > How do we stop this??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    >> > >
    >> > > There's probably no solution until Yahoo! fixes the problem.
    >> > >
    >> > > >
    >> > > > Ferrante <> wrote in message
    >> > > news:<>...
    >> > > > > Is there any way to stop the flood of Microsoft updates within

    >Yahoo
    >> > > > > Mail? I am getting several hundred everyday and my mailbox is
    >> > > > > constantly getting filled up. Anyway to stop it before it gets to

    >my
    >> > > > > mailbox? Even going to Junk or Trash still counts towards my 6 meg
    >> > > > > limit.
    >> > > > >
    >> > > > > Thanks in advance for your help.
    >> > > > >
    >> > > > > Mark Ferrante
    >> > >
    >> > >
    >> >
    >> >

    >>
    >>

    >
     
    Ferrante, Sep 23, 2003
    #6
  7. John Seeliger

    Boomer Guest

    Ferrante said:

    > On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:52:42 -0500, "MaryL"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >>One problem with Yahoo (as far as I can tell) is that it is on
    >>the Internet, and mail takes up space in the boxes even before
    >>the user opens the account. For example, my Yahoo box always
    >>shows 117 percent of capacity within a couple of hours of the
    >>time I last cleaned it out!

    >
    > Yes, everytime I log on, I am at 117 percent, and that is after
    > only a couple of hours. I delete it and two hours later, the
    > same thing! Screw this. This only seems to be happening to those
    > of us who post on Usenet, to the degree we are getting it.


    -0- here.

    > I have opened a another e-mail account and have notified my
    > friends of that address and that is all I will use it for. Screw
    > the other crap.
    >
    > Mark

    [HUGE snip]
     
    Boomer, Sep 23, 2003
    #7
  8. John Seeliger

    Guest

    >This only seems to be happening to those of us who post on
    >Usenet, to the degree we are getting it.


    Yes... it does seem like its harvesting addresses from
    Usenet posts. And Im a HEAVY Usenet user.

    >I have opened a another e-mail account and have notified my friends of
    >that address and that is all I will use it for. Screw the other crap.


    I did that as well.... but Im ALREADY getting these
    messages in the NEW email address. Not to the extent I
    was in my old one..... but it getting worse each day in
    the new one.
     
    , Sep 23, 2003
    #8
  9. John Seeliger

    gangle Guest

    <> wrote
    > >This only seems to be happening to those of us who post on
    > >Usenet, to the degree we are getting it.

    >
    > Yes... it does seem like its harvesting addresses from
    > Usenet posts. And Im a HEAVY Usenet user.
    >
    > >I have opened a another e-mail account and have notified my friends of
    > >that address and that is all I will use it for. Screw the other crap.

    >
    > I did that as well.... but Im ALREADY getting these
    > messages in the NEW email address. Not to the extent I
    > was in my old one..... but it getting worse each day in
    > the new one.


    http://www.firstagra.com/images/red_tractor.jpg
     
    gangle, Sep 23, 2003
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  10. John Seeliger

    John Hunter Guest

    On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:13:07 -0500 wrote:

    > >This only seems to be happening to those of us who post on
    > >Usenet, to the degree we are getting it.

    >
    > Yes... it does seem like its harvesting addresses from
    > Usenet posts. And Im a HEAVY Usenet user.
    >
    > >I have opened a another e-mail account and have notified my friends of
    > >that address and that is all I will use it for. Screw the other crap.

    >
    > I did that as well.... but Im ALREADY getting these
    > messages in the NEW email address. Not to the extent I
    > was in my old one..... but it getting worse each day in
    > the new one.


    What you gotta do, then, is have one email box for your friends/family, and
    another for other stuff. I have one I use for online purchases, another for
    signing up for stuff I don't really want (but when I have to sign up for it to
    get stuff I do want), another for normal use, one for my gaming persona, one I
    use for email lists, and I create and destroy throw-away addresses like this one
    for usenet posting.

    This address is valid -- send to it and I'll get the email. But when the spam
    gets too thick I'll throw it away and create a new one. The old one will be
    redirected to spamcop. :)

    ---
    Press any key to continue or any other key to quit.
     
    John Hunter, Sep 23, 2003
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  11. John Seeliger

    MaryL Guest

    "John Hunter" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > What you gotta do, then, is have one email box for your friends/family,

    and
    > another for other stuff. I have one I use for online purchases, another

    for
    > signing up for stuff I don't really want (but when I have to sign up for

    it to
    > get stuff I do want), another for normal use, one for my gaming persona,

    one I
    > use for email lists, and I create and destroy throw-away addresses like

    this one
    > for usenet posting.
    >
    > This address is valid -- send to it and I'll get the email. But when the

    spam
    > gets too thick I'll throw it away and create a new one. The old one will

    be
    > redirected to spamcop. :)
    >


    I do basically the same as you, except that I only have 3 boxes. However,
    my problem is that I like to use Yahoo for newsgroups because I can access
    it even when I travel. Since it is on the Internet, anti-virus programs
    can't intercept junk mail before it reaches the boxes. Junk mail is
    redirected to the bulk box, but that still takes space -- and the box fills
    even before I can open it. I opened a new account a few days ago with extra
    words within the address that shows to users (and instructions below my
    signature). Maybe that will help -- we'll soon see.

    I'm not familiar with what you mean by "spamcop," though, although I can
    guess at the basic concept.

    MaryL
    (take out the litter to reply)
     
    MaryL, Sep 23, 2003
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  12. John Seeliger

    John Hunter Guest

    On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:35:55 -0500 "MaryL"
    <> wrote:

    > I do basically the same as you, except that I only have 3 boxes. However,
    > my problem is that I like to use Yahoo for newsgroups because I can access
    > it even when I travel. Since it is on the Internet, anti-virus programs
    > can't intercept junk mail before it reaches the boxes. Junk mail is
    > redirected to the bulk box, but that still takes space -- and the box fills
    > even before I can open it. I opened a new account a few days ago with extra
    > words within the address that shows to users (and instructions below my
    > signature). Maybe that will help -- we'll soon see.


    Hmm. Do you mean you're using Yahoo to read the newsgroups? That doesn't
    necessarily mean you have to post with a Yahoo address. I'm using Verizon for my
    newsgroups (my ISP) and my hosting package for my email. I've used other
    combinations before.

    If you mean you use Yahoo for your newsgroup email, then first, a lot of email
    services seem to now include some kind of webmail-type interface; and second,
    the whole idea of having a separate email box for your newsgroup reading is to
    be able to throw it away whenever it gets too much spam. If you're posting with
    a permanent email address, even if it's not your "main" email address, you're
    not doing anything useful.

    If you're travelling with a laptop, you should be able to set it up to get your
    email from a regular box, even when you're away. I even got a special dialup
    account specifically for the purpose -- I didn't use them for much of anything
    else. When at home I use DSL, but when I was travelling I'd dial into a local
    number through using my Martnet account and suck the mail into my laptop. Of
    course, it was made easier because I tended to use the laptop for reading my
    mail in the first place.

    These days I don't travel much, and I haven't had a working laptop for a while.
    On the other hand, I've got Pocomail PE which lets me easily use my data on
    different computers, so that's not an issue either. Or at least it won't be if I
    go mobile again. :)

    But in any case, if you've got multiple addresses in order to avoid spam and
    you're getting spam anyway to an address that you can't throw away, you're doing
    it wrong.

    > I'm not familiar with what you mean by "spamcop," though, although I can
    > guess at the basic concept.


    It's a blacklist organization. A friend has an account and has set up some email
    boxes specifically designed for being forwarded to. I have some old spamcatcher
    addresses feeding directly into the mail box designated for the purpose.

    ---
    Did you hear about the dyslexic insomniac agnostic? He would lie awake nights wondering if there was a Dog.
     
    John Hunter, Sep 24, 2003
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  13. John Seeliger

    MaryL Guest

    "John Hunter" <> wrote in message
    news:eek:...
    > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:35:55 -0500 "MaryL"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    > > I do basically the same as you, except that I only have 3 boxes.

    However,
    > > my problem is that I like to use Yahoo for newsgroups because I can

    access
    > > it even when I travel. Since it is on the Internet, anti-virus programs
    > > can't intercept junk mail before it reaches the boxes. Junk mail is
    > > redirected to the bulk box, but that still takes space -- and the box

    fills
    > > even before I can open it. I opened a new account a few days ago with

    extra
    > > words within the address that shows to users (and instructions below my
    > > signature). Maybe that will help -- we'll soon see.

    >
    > Hmm. Do you mean you're using Yahoo to read the newsgroups? That doesn't
    > necessarily mean you have to post with a Yahoo address. I'm using Verizon

    for my
    > newsgroups (my ISP) and my hosting package for my email. I've used other
    > combinations before.
    >


    No, I don't use Yahoo to read newsgroups. I use it for my email to which
    people on the newsgroups may reply. It's not my primary mail -- I use it
    only for newsgroup correspondence and also as the contact for some
    commercial groups where I occasionally place orders, and that address is
    where I receive confirmation numbers. It isn't a big deal to me because I
    can easily change to a new addy (as I did last week -- to the one being used
    now), but it does mean that I will need to change the contact information
    for those few places where I need confirmation numbers. My primary mail
    goes through Eudora. However, that resides on my desktop and I cannot
    access it when I'm traveling. Likewise, my office account is on the desktop
    at the office and is not accessible through the Internet. In the past, I
    would give a few people my Yahoo number in case they would need to reach me
    when I was on vacation. This has worked well for a number of years. It
    looks like I will now need a completely separate address reserved just for
    those who read newsgroups and want to respond -- not frequent, but it does
    occasionally happen.

    >
    > If you're travelling with a laptop, you should be able to set it up to get

    your
    > email from a regular box, even when you're away.


    I don't usually travel with my laptop. I use computers belonging to friends
    and relatives to check on whether anyone has sent a message.

    >
    > These days I don't travel much, and I haven't had a working laptop for a

    while.
    > On the other hand, I've got Pocomail PE which lets me easily use my data

    on
    > different computers, so that's not an issue either. Or at least it won't

    be if I
    > go mobile again. :)
    >
    > But in any case, if you've got multiple addresses in order to avoid spam

    and
    > you're getting spam anyway to an address that you can't throw away, you're

    doing
    > it wrong.
    >

    So far, the problem has been only with the old Yahoo account (the one I had
    used without difficulty for several years -- but no more).


    Thanks for the information. I appreciate it.
    MaryL
     
    MaryL, Sep 24, 2003
    #13
  14. John Seeliger

    Guest

    >What you gotta do, then, is have one email box for your friends/family, and
    >another for other stuff. I have one I use for online purchases, another for
    >signing up for stuff I don't really want (but when I have to sign up for it to
    >get stuff I do want), another for normal use, one for my gaming persona, one I
    >use for email lists, and I create and destroy throw-away addresses like this one
    >for usenet posting.


    Yeah..... I kinda have that right now

    But my real problem is using my news
    resader....Agent..... with such a setup.

    You see I use Agent for BOTH news and email..... and if
    you use Agent you'd know that it not a simple matter to
    have one email for news posting and another for email

    Question.... Ive been thinking abt using a separate app
    for email...and a separate app for news (Agent).

    Do YOU have separate apps for email and news everyone?
     
    , Sep 24, 2003
    #14
  15. John Seeliger

    Guest

    > I opened a new account a few days ago with extra
    >words within the address that shows to users (and instructions below my
    >signature). Maybe that will help -- we'll soon see.


    Mary.... I think you have a good idea on the above....
    i.e. "take out the litter"

    But Ive read that any munging "should" be done on the
    domain side....i.e. AFTER the @ sign

    Hence maybe.....

    -OUT-THE-LITTER>

    would be better?
     
    , Sep 24, 2003
    #15
  16. John Seeliger

    Guest

    >On the other hand, I've got Pocomail PE which lets me easily use my data on
    >different computers, so that's not an issue either. Or at least it won't be if I
    >go mobile again. :)


    Hey John.... what's is this Pocomail PE?

    And why is it better than other email apps?
     
    , Sep 24, 2003
    #16
  17. John Seeliger

    Guest

    >No, I don't use Yahoo to read newsgroups. I use it for my email to which
    >people on the newsgroups may reply. It's not my primary mail -- I use it
    >only for newsgroup correspondence and also as the contact for some
    >commercial groups where I occasionally place orders, and that address is
    >where I receive confirmation numbers. It isn't a big deal to me because I
    >can easily change to a new addy (as I did last week -- to the one being used
    >now), but it does mean that I will need to change the contact information
    >for those few places where I need confirmation numbers. My primary mail
    >goes through Eudora. However, that resides on my desktop and I cannot
    >access it when I'm traveling. Likewise, my office account is on the desktop
    >at the office and is not accessible through the Internet. In the past, I
    >would give a few people my Yahoo number in case they would need to reach me
    >when I was on vacation. This has worked well for a number of years. It
    >looks like I will now need a completely separate address reserved just for
    >those who read newsgroups and want to respond -- not frequent, but it does
    >occasionally happen.


    Mary..... I am doing what you do as well... i.e have a
    Yahoo acct for an address to use for news group use.
    So yes I can get legit email there as well. And like
    you I liked it cause I COULD use it for personal use
    when traveling too.

    However.... it is now pretty much useless cause it
    COMPLETLY fills up with the MS bullshit within minutes
    after emptying it.

    I guess I could have TWO Yahoo addresses as you
    suggest.... one for Usenet use..... and another for the
    occasional times I travel and want web email access

    But as the other John has suggested..... MOST if not
    all ISPs now have web access to their email as well.
    However...... it just seems easier to use Yahoo for web
    email.... plus I can use Yahoos free calendar and all
    that stuff as well when on the road
     
    , Sep 24, 2003
    #17
  18. John Seeliger

    John Hunter Guest

    On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:56:23 -0500 "MaryL"
    <> wrote:

    >
    > "John Hunter" <> wrote in message
    > news:eek:...
    > > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:35:55 -0500 "MaryL"
    > > <> wrote:
    > >

    >
    > No, I don't use Yahoo to read newsgroups. I use it for my email to which
    > people on the newsgroups may reply. It's not my primary mail -- I use it
    > only for newsgroup correspondence and also as the contact for some
    > commercial groups where I occasionally place orders, and that address is
    > where I receive confirmation numbers. It isn't a big deal to me because I
    > can easily change to a new addy (as I did last week -- to the one being used
    > now), but it does mean that I will need to change the contact information
    > for those few places where I need confirmation numbers. My primary mail
    > goes through Eudora. However, that resides on my desktop and I cannot
    > access it when I'm traveling. Likewise, my office account is on the desktop
    > at the office and is not accessible through the Internet. In the past, I
    > would give a few people my Yahoo number in case they would need to reach me
    > when I was on vacation. This has worked well for a number of years. It
    > looks like I will now need a completely separate address reserved just for
    > those who read newsgroups and want to respond -- not frequent, but it does
    > occasionally happen.


    Then I suggest having a throw-away address solely for newsgroup-posting. If you
    get any legitimate email responses that you want to maintain contact with, you
    can always give 'em your permanent email address (so they don't lose you when
    you morph).

    > I don't usually travel with my laptop. I use computers belonging to friends
    > and relatives to check on whether anyone has sent a message.


    Fair enough.

    > > But in any case, if you've got multiple addresses in order to avoid spam

    > and
    > > you're getting spam anyway to an address that you can't throw away, you're

    > doing
    > > it wrong.
    > >

    > So far, the problem has been only with the old Yahoo account (the one I had
    > used without difficulty for several years -- but no more).


    Time to change over, then.

    I've had to change my habits too. I've abandoned more than one address in the
    last couple years. So far I've managed to keep my current main address almost
    spam-free, and I've been taking even more precautions lately.

    Heck, when I switched over to my latest one, after informing everybody I could
    find in my address book, I did this trick:

    1) Put an auto-respond on the old one that said I was changing over. That gave a
    different email address to write to... one entirely not associated with anything
    else.
    2) If you wanted to get my new real address, you wrote to the intermediate
    address and asked for it. If any spammers harvested the "new" address
    automatically from the auto-response, they'd just get a throw-away address.
    3) That was a legitimate "normal" address, so they had to get the new address
    from me... no auto-responder or scripts to fool.

    > Thanks for the information. I appreciate it.


    No problem. Information is the one thing that gains value when you share it. ;)

    ---
    If I fail, no one will say, 'She doesn't have what it takes.' They will say, 'Women don't have what it takes.' -Clare Boothe Luce
     
    John Hunter, Sep 24, 2003
    #18
  19. John Seeliger

    MaryL Guest

    <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > > I opened a new account a few days ago with extra
    > >words within the address that shows to users (and instructions below my
    > >signature). Maybe that will help -- we'll soon see.

    >
    > Mary.... I think you have a good idea on the above....
    > i.e. "take out the litter"
    >
    > But Ive read that any munging "should" be done on the
    > domain side....i.e. AFTER the @ sign
    >
    > Hence maybe.....
    >
    > -OUT-THE-LITTER>
    >
    > would be better?


    Yes, I have wondered about that. I have seen both versions used, but I
    could easily change mine if it is better to have the "extraneous"
    information after the @sign. I also saw somewhere that it should not come
    immediately after the @sign but instead should come in the position you
    listed. Do you know why?

    Thanks,
    MaryL
    (take out the litter to reply)
     
    MaryL, Sep 24, 2003
    #19
  20. John Seeliger

    Munger Joe Guest

    On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:38:03 -0500, wrote:

    >You see I use Agent for BOTH news and email..... and if
    >you use Agent you'd know that it not a simple matter to
    >have one email for news posting and another for email


    In Group|Properties|Post you can configure a different email address
    for each group that you post to.

    Joe
     
    Munger Joe, Sep 24, 2003
    #20
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