Re: Patents vs Innovation

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Nov 28, 2009.

  1. In message <hepn4f$94e$-september.org>, victor wrote:

    > The invention of the first transistor didn't stop the innovation which
    > produced the first silicon transistor at TI in 1954 or the first
    > integrated circuit in 1959.


    None of which became popular until after the transistor patent expired.

    > In the case of the transistor patents facilitate and encourage
    > disclosure of innovations into the public domain for the common good.


    Doesn’t work that way. In the US, you are actively _discouraged_ from
    looking at existing patents. Why? Because if you are later sued for
    infringement and it turns out you knew about the patent, even if you thought
    it wasn’t relevant, then the infringement becomes wilful and the damages are
    tripled.

    <http://techdirt.com/articles/20070814/015013.shtml>
     
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Nov 28, 2009
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  2. Lawrence D'Oliveiro

    victor Guest

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    > In message <hepn4f$94e$-september.org>, victor wrote:
    >
    >> The invention of the first transistor didn't stop the innovation which
    >> produced the first silicon transistor at TI in 1954 or the first
    >> integrated circuit in 1959.

    >
    > None of which became popular until after the transistor patent expired.


    Rubbish, the large electronics companies simply licensed the patents as
    they do now


    >
    >> In the case of the transistor patents facilitate and encourage
    >> disclosure of innovations into the public domain for the common good.

    >
    > Doesn’t work that way. In the US, you are actively _discouraged_ from
    > looking at existing patents. Why? Because if you are later sued for
    > infringement and it turns out you knew about the patent, even if you thought
    > it wasn’t relevant, then the infringement becomes wilful and the damages are
    > tripled.
    >
    > <http://techdirt.com/articles/20070814/015013.shtml>
    >


    No one waits for patents to expire if there is a buck to be made, the
    royalty costs simply get passed on to the consumer.
     
    victor, Nov 28, 2009
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  3. Lawrence D'Oliveiro

    victor Guest

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    > In message <hepsis$399$-september.org>, victor wrote:
    >
    >> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    >>
    >>> In message <hepn4f$94e$-september.org>, victor wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> The invention of the first transistor didn't stop the innovation which
    >>>> produced the first silicon transistor at TI in 1954 or the first
    >>>> integrated circuit in 1959.
    >>> None of which became popular until after the transistor patent expired.

    >> Rubbish, the large electronics companies simply licensed the patents as
    >> they do now

    >
    > Silicon didn’t really take over from germanium until the 1970s—about the
    > time TI’s silicon transistor patent would have expired. And integrated
    > circuits had their small beginnings in the 1970s, but really exploded in the
    > 1980s.
    >


    You don't know what you are talking about.
     
    victor, Nov 28, 2009
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