Re: ISP Cancel Now what?

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by OldGringo38, Oct 26, 2010.

  1. OldGringo38

    OldGringo38 Guest

    On 10/26/2010 3:38 PM Just to please that super-ego, philo wrote the
    following tidbit of information:
    > My ISP is no longer providing DSL in may area
    > effective the end of next month.
    >
    > No big deal I thought. I have an AT&T land line, I'll just sign up for
    > AT&T DSL.
    >
    > Went to sign up on-line but it's impossible to do if you presently have
    > DSL. Of course if I didn't have DSL I'd not be able to sign up on-line.
    >
    > Sheesh
    >
    > So I called them and after a half hour or so of asking questions...
    > the bottom line is that I *cannot* sign up for AT&T DSL if I currently
    > have a DSL provider. I'll have to let it lapse then sign up.
    >
    > They could not tell me how long I'd have to wait to get new service...
    > they said it might be four days or so.
    >
    >
    >
    > Aargh!!!!

    See ya along about April :)

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    OldGringo38, Oct 26, 2010
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  2. OldGringo38

    OldGringo38 Guest

    On 10/26/2010 4:38 PM Just to please that super-ego, philo wrote the
    following tidbit of information:
    > On 10/26/2010 04:17 PM, OldGringo38 wrote:
    >> On 10/26/2010 3:38 PM Just to please that super-ego, philo wrote the
    >> following tidbit of information:
    >>> My ISP is no longer providing DSL in may area
    >>> effective the end of next month.
    >>>
    >>> No big deal I thought. I have an AT&T land line, I'll just sign up for
    >>> AT&T DSL.
    >>>
    >>> Went to sign up on-line but it's impossible to do if you presently have
    >>> DSL. Of course if I didn't have DSL I'd not be able to sign up on-line.
    >>>
    >>> Sheesh
    >>>
    >>> So I called them and after a half hour or so of asking questions...
    >>> the bottom line is that I *cannot* sign up for AT&T DSL if I currently
    >>> have a DSL provider. I'll have to let it lapse then sign up.
    >>>
    >>> They could not tell me how long I'd have to wait to get new service...
    >>> they said it might be four days or so.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Aargh!!!!

    >> See ya along about April :)
    >>

    >
    >
    > Yeah
    >
    > Maybe I'll just quite Usenet

    Hell I'd go hungry before I did that LOL :)

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    OldGringo38, Oct 27, 2010
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  3. OldGringo38

    philo Guest

    "OldGringo38" <> wrote in message
    news:ia7nhd$hrk$-september.org...
    > On 10/26/2010 4:38 PM Just to please that super-ego, philo wrote the
    > following tidbit of information:
    >> On 10/26/2010 04:17 PM, OldGringo38 wrote:
    >>> On 10/26/2010 3:38 PM Just to please that super-ego, philo wrote the
    >>> following tidbit of information:
    >>>> My ISP is no longer providing DSL in may area
    >>>> effective the end of next month.
    >>>>
    >>>> No big deal I thought. I have an AT&T land line, I'll just sign up for
    >>>> AT&T DSL.
    >>>>
    >>>> Went to sign up on-line but it's impossible to do if you presently have
    >>>> DSL. Of course if I didn't have DSL I'd not be able to sign up on-line.
    >>>>
    >>>> Sheesh
    >>>>
    >>>> So I called them and after a half hour or so of asking questions...
    >>>> the bottom line is that I *cannot* sign up for AT&T DSL if I currently
    >>>> have a DSL provider. I'll have to let it lapse then sign up.
    >>>>
    >>>> They could not tell me how long I'd have to wait to get new service...
    >>>> they said it might be four days or so.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Aargh!!!!
    >>> See ya along about April :)
    >>>

    >>
    >>
    >> Yeah
    >>
    >> Maybe I'll just quite Usenet

    > Hell I'd go hungry before I did that LOL :)
    >


    YES!

    I guess I can pop over to the coffee shop with a laptop if I need to

    or maybe with *permission* tap into a neighbor's wireless
     
    philo, Oct 27, 2010
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  4. OldGringo38

    OldGringo38 Guest

    On 10/26/2010 6:22 PM Just to please that super-ego, philo wrote the
    following tidbit of information:
    > "OldGringo38"<> wrote in message
    > news:ia7nhd$hrk$-september.org...
    >> On 10/26/2010 4:38 PM Just to please that super-ego, philo wrote the
    >> following tidbit of information:
    >>> On 10/26/2010 04:17 PM, OldGringo38 wrote:
    >>>> On 10/26/2010 3:38 PM Just to please that super-ego, philo wrote the
    >>>> following tidbit of information:
    >>>>> My ISP is no longer providing DSL in may area
    >>>>> effective the end of next month.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> No big deal I thought. I have an AT&T land line, I'll just sign up for
    >>>>> AT&T DSL.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Went to sign up on-line but it's impossible to do if you presently have
    >>>>> DSL. Of course if I didn't have DSL I'd not be able to sign up on-line.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Sheesh
    >>>>>
    >>>>> So I called them and after a half hour or so of asking questions...
    >>>>> the bottom line is that I *cannot* sign up for AT&T DSL if I currently
    >>>>> have a DSL provider. I'll have to let it lapse then sign up.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> They could not tell me how long I'd have to wait to get new service...
    >>>>> they said it might be four days or so.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Aargh!!!!
    >>>> See ya along about April :)
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Yeah
    >>>
    >>> Maybe I'll just quite Usenet

    >> Hell I'd go hungry before I did that LOL :)
    >>

    >
    > YES!
    >
    > I guess I can pop over to the coffee shop with a laptop if I need to
    >
    > or maybe with *permission* tap into a neighbor's wireless
    >
    >

    Usually AT&T is pretty understanding, and if you soap them just right
    they will have your new line ready when the cable is disconnected. You
    might want to talk to a supervisor next time, best results that way.

    --
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    OldGringo38, Oct 27, 2010
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  5. OldGringo38

    philo Guest

    On 10/26/2010 06:51 PM, OldGringo38 wrote:
    > On 10/26/2010 6:22 PM Just to please that super-ego, philo wrote the
    > following tidbit of information:
    >> "OldGringo38"<> wrote in message
    >> news:ia7nhd$hrk$-september.org...
    >>> On 10/26/2010 4:38 PM Just to please that super-ego, philo wrote the
    >>> following tidbit of information:
    >>>> On 10/26/2010 04:17 PM, OldGringo38 wrote:
    >>>>> On 10/26/2010 3:38 PM Just to please that super-ego, philo wrote the
    >>>>> following tidbit of information:
    >>>>>> My ISP is no longer providing DSL in may area
    >>>>>> effective the end of next month.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> No big deal I thought. I have an AT&T land line, I'll just sign up
    >>>>>> for
    >>>>>> AT&T DSL.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Went to sign up on-line but it's impossible to do if you presently
    >>>>>> have
    >>>>>> DSL. Of course if I didn't have DSL I'd not be able to sign up
    >>>>>> on-line.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Sheesh
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> So I called them and after a half hour or so of asking questions...
    >>>>>> the bottom line is that I *cannot* sign up for AT&T DSL if I
    >>>>>> currently
    >>>>>> have a DSL provider. I'll have to let it lapse then sign up.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> They could not tell me how long I'd have to wait to get new
    >>>>>> service...
    >>>>>> they said it might be four days or so.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Aargh!!!!
    >>>>> See ya along about April :)
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Yeah
    >>>>
    >>>> Maybe I'll just quite Usenet
    >>> Hell I'd go hungry before I did that LOL :)
    >>>

    >>
    >> YES!
    >>
    >> I guess I can pop over to the coffee shop with a laptop if I need to
    >>
    >> or maybe with *permission* tap into a neighbor's wireless
    >>
    >>

    > Usually AT&T is pretty understanding, and if you soap them just right
    > they will have your new line ready when the cable is disconnected. You
    > might want to talk to a supervisor next time, best results that way.
    >



    Yep

    I forgot about that 'supervisor' thing

    thanks
     
    philo, Oct 27, 2010
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  6. OldGringo38

    G. Morgan Guest

    G. Morgan, Oct 27, 2010
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  7. OldGringo38

    Meat Plow Guest

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 11:52:30 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:

    > §nühw¤£f <> wrote:
    >
    >>FFS, just build a parabolic collector for yer wifi dongle and "share"
    >>whats available until you get yer new services all set.

    >
    > And for those using WEP they deserve to "share":
    > http://lifehacker.com/5459822/crack-a-wi fi-networks-wep-password-with-

    backtrack-the-fancy-video-version
    >
    >>Word.

    >
    > Up. yo


    So you both think theft of wireless service is a good idea.



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    Meat Plow, Oct 27, 2010
    #7
  8. On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:02:26 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    <> wrote:

    >On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 11:52:30 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
    >
    >> §nühw¤£f <> wrote:
    >>
    >>>FFS, just build a parabolic collector for yer wifi dongle and "share"
    >>>whats available until you get yer new services all set.

    >>
    >> And for those using WEP they deserve to "share":
    >> http://lifehacker.com/5459822/crack-a-wi fi-networks-wep-password-with-

    >backtrack-the-fancy-video-version
    >>
    >>>Word.

    >>
    >> Up. yo

    >
    >So you both think theft of wireless service is a good idea.


    Many folks deliberately leave their wi-fi open in the spirit of
    sharing.
     
    BinaryBillTheSailor@Sea++.com, Oct 27, 2010
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  9. OldGringo38

    Meat Plow Guest

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:26:56 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:

    > On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:02:26 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 11:52:30 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
    >>
    >>> §nühw¤£f <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>FFS, just build a parabolic collector for yer wifi dongle and "share"
    >>>>whats available until you get yer new services all set.
    >>>
    >>> And for those using WEP they deserve to "share":
    >>> http://lifehacker.com/5459822/crack-a-wi fi-networks-wep-password-

    with-
    >>backtrack-the-fancy-video-version
    >>>
    >>>>Word.
    >>>
    >>> Up. yo

    >>
    >>So you both think theft of wireless service is a good idea.

    >
    > Many folks deliberately leave their wi-fi open in the spirit of sharing.



    I know of no such folks.


    --
    Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse
     
    Meat Plow, Oct 27, 2010
    #9
  10. On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:37:19 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    <> wrote:

    >On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:26:56 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >
    >> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:02:26 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow <>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 11:52:30 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> §nühw¤£f <> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>FFS, just build a parabolic collector for yer wifi dongle and "share"
    >>>>>whats available until you get yer new services all set.
    >>>>
    >>>> And for those using WEP they deserve to "share":
    >>>> http://lifehacker.com/5459822/crack-a-wi fi-networks-wep-password-

    >with-
    >>>backtrack-the-fancy-video-version
    >>>>
    >>>>>Word.
    >>>>
    >>>> Up. yo
    >>>
    >>>So you both think theft of wireless service is a good idea.

    >>
    >> Many folks deliberately leave their wi-fi open in the spirit of sharing.

    >
    >
    >I know of no such folks.


    I know of MANY.

    It's really quite common.
     
    BinaryBillTheSailor@Sea++.com, Oct 27, 2010
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  11. OldGringo38

    Meat Plow Guest

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:48:22 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:

    > On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:37:19 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:26:56 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:02:26 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    >>> <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 11:52:30 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> §nühw¤£f <> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>FFS, just build a parabolic collector for yer wifi dongle and
    >>>>>>"share" whats available until you get yer new services all set.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> And for those using WEP they deserve to "share":
    >>>>> http://lifehacker.com/5459822/crack-a-wi fi-networks-wep-password-

    >>with-
    >>>>backtrack-the-fancy-video-version
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>Word.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Up. yo
    >>>>
    >>>>So you both think theft of wireless service is a good idea.
    >>>
    >>> Many folks deliberately leave their wi-fi open in the spirit of
    >>> sharing.

    >>
    >>
    >>I know of no such folks.

    >
    > I know of MANY.
    >
    > It's really quite common.


    Common among ignorant people maybe.



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    Meat Plow, Oct 27, 2010
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  12. On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:49:41 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    <> wrote:

    >On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:48:22 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >
    >> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:37:19 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow <>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:26:56 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:02:26 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    >>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 11:52:30 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> §nühw¤£f <> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>FFS, just build a parabolic collector for yer wifi dongle and
    >>>>>>>"share" whats available until you get yer new services all set.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> And for those using WEP they deserve to "share":
    >>>>>> http://lifehacker.com/5459822/crack-a-wi fi-networks-wep-password-
    >>>with-
    >>>>>backtrack-the-fancy-video-version
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Word.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Up. yo
    >>>>>
    >>>>>So you both think theft of wireless service is a good idea.
    >>>>
    >>>> Many folks deliberately leave their wi-fi open in the spirit of
    >>>> sharing.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>I know of no such folks.

    >>
    >> I know of MANY.
    >>
    >> It's really quite common.

    >
    >Common among ignorant people maybe.


    Actually, quite the opposite.

    Try googling on the subject of leaving wifi open, and maybe you will
    learn something new today. There has been a lot of discussion about it
    for a long time.
     
    BinaryBillTheSailor@Sea++.com, Oct 27, 2010
    #12
  13. OldGringo38

    Meat Plow Guest

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:55:38 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:

    > On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:49:41 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:48:22 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:37:19 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    >>> <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:26:56 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:02:26 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    >>>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 11:52:30 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> §nühw¤£f <> wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>FFS, just build a parabolic collector for yer wifi dongle and
    >>>>>>>>"share" whats available until you get yer new services all set.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> And for those using WEP they deserve to "share":
    >>>>>>> http://lifehacker.com/5459822/crack-a-wi fi-networks-wep-password-
    >>>>with-
    >>>>>>backtrack-the-fancy-video-version
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Word.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Up. yo
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>So you both think theft of wireless service is a good idea.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Many folks deliberately leave their wi-fi open in the spirit of
    >>>>> sharing.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>I know of no such folks.
    >>>
    >>> I know of MANY.
    >>>
    >>> It's really quite common.

    >>
    >>Common among ignorant people maybe.

    >
    > Actually, quite the opposite.
    >
    > Try googling on the subject of leaving wifi open, and maybe you will
    > learn something new today. There has been a lot of discussion about it
    > for a long time.


    Allowing you access point to operate unsecured is idiotic. You won't find
    a responsible person in the world that will disagree.



    --
    Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse
     
    Meat Plow, Oct 27, 2010
    #13
  14. On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 18:10:02 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    <> wrote:

    >On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:55:38 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >
    >> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:49:41 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow <>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:48:22 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:37:19 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    >>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:26:56 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Many folks deliberately leave their wi-fi open in the spirit of
    >>>>>> sharing.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>I know of no such folks.
    >>>>
    >>>> I know of MANY.
    >>>>
    >>>> It's really quite common.
    >>>
    >>>Common among ignorant people maybe.

    >>
    >> Actually, quite the opposite.
    >>
    >> Try googling on the subject of leaving wifi open, and maybe you will
    >> learn something new today. There has been a lot of discussion about it
    >> for a long time.

    >
    >Allowing you access point to operate unsecured is idiotic. You won't find
    >a responsible person in the world that will disagree.


    That's just the beginning of where you are wrong.
     
    BinaryBillTheSailor@Sea++.com, Oct 27, 2010
    #14
  15. OldGringo38

    Meat Plow Guest

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:12:50 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:

    > On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 18:10:02 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:55:38 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:49:41 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    >>> <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:48:22 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:37:19 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    >>>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:26:56 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Many folks deliberately leave their wi-fi open in the spirit of
    >>>>>>> sharing.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>I know of no such folks.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I know of MANY.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> It's really quite common.
    >>>>
    >>>>Common among ignorant people maybe.
    >>>
    >>> Actually, quite the opposite.
    >>>
    >>> Try googling on the subject of leaving wifi open, and maybe you will
    >>> learn something new today. There has been a lot of discussion about it
    >>> for a long time.

    >>
    >>Allowing you access point to operate unsecured is idiotic. You won't
    >>find a responsible person in the world that will disagree.

    >
    > That's just the beginning of where you are wrong.


    It's time you start providing proof that I'm wrong.



    --
    Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse
     
    Meat Plow, Oct 27, 2010
    #15
  16. On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 18:20:14 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    <> wrote:

    >On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:12:50 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >
    >> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 18:10:02 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow <>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:55:38 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:49:41 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    >>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:48:22 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:37:19 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    >>>>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:26:56 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Many folks deliberately leave their wi-fi open in the spirit of
    >>>>>>>> sharing.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>I know of no such folks.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I know of MANY.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> It's really quite common.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Common among ignorant people maybe.
    >>>>
    >>>> Actually, quite the opposite.
    >>>>
    >>>> Try googling on the subject of leaving wifi open, and maybe you will
    >>>> learn something new today. There has been a lot of discussion about it
    >>>> for a long time.
    >>>
    >>>Allowing you access point to operate unsecured is idiotic. You won't
    >>>find a responsible person in the world that will disagree.

    >>
    >> That's just the beginning of where you are wrong.

    >
    >It's time you start providing proof that I'm wrong.


    http://www.openwifispots.com/

    Looks like a pretty widespread practice to me.

    Look at all those irresponsible major corporations, governments and
    small businesses!
     
    BinaryBillTheSailor@Sea++.com, Oct 27, 2010
    #16
  17. OldGringo38

    Meat Plow Guest

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:23:26 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:

    > On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 18:20:14 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:12:50 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 18:10:02 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    >>> <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:55:38 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:49:41 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    >>>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:48:22 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:37:19 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    >>>>>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:26:56 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Many folks deliberately leave their wi-fi open in the spirit of
    >>>>>>>>> sharing.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>I know of no such folks.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I know of MANY.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> It's really quite common.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Common among ignorant people maybe.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Actually, quite the opposite.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Try googling on the subject of leaving wifi open, and maybe you will
    >>>>> learn something new today. There has been a lot of discussion about
    >>>>> it for a long time.
    >>>>
    >>>>Allowing you access point to operate unsecured is idiotic. You won't
    >>>>find a responsible person in the world that will disagree.
    >>>
    >>> That's just the beginning of where you are wrong.

    >>
    >>It's time you start providing proof that I'm wrong.

    >
    > http://www.openwifispots.com/
    >
    > Looks like a pretty widespread practice to me.
    >
    > Look at all those irresponsible major corporations, governments and
    > small businesses!


    I said responsible people. Irresponsible people are just that. Doesn't
    imply they are responsible people that wish to operate unsecure wifi in
    the name of sharing.

    Now, quote a 'responsible' person who thinks unsecured wifi isn't an
    idiotic idea.



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    Meat Plow, Oct 27, 2010
    #17
  18. On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 18:29:22 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    <> wrote:

    >On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:23:26 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >
    >> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 18:20:14 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow <>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:12:50 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 18:10:02 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    >>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:55:38 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:49:41 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    >>>>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:48:22 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:37:19 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    >>>>>>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:26:56 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Many folks deliberately leave their wi-fi open in the spirit of
    >>>>>>>>>> sharing.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>I know of no such folks.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> I know of MANY.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> It's really quite common.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Common among ignorant people maybe.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Actually, quite the opposite.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Try googling on the subject of leaving wifi open, and maybe you will
    >>>>>> learn something new today. There has been a lot of discussion about
    >>>>>> it for a long time.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Allowing you access point to operate unsecured is idiotic. You won't
    >>>>>find a responsible person in the world that will disagree.
    >>>>
    >>>> That's just the beginning of where you are wrong.
    >>>
    >>>It's time you start providing proof that I'm wrong.

    >>
    >> http://www.openwifispots.com/
    >>
    >> Looks like a pretty widespread practice to me.
    >>
    >> Look at all those irresponsible major corporations, governments and
    >> small businesses!

    >
    >I said responsible people. Irresponsible people are just that. Doesn't
    >imply they are responsible people that wish to operate unsecure wifi in
    >the name of sharing.
    >
    >Now, quote a 'responsible' person who thinks unsecured wifi isn't an
    >idiotic idea.


    I already gave you a link to thousands of examples. If that's not
    enough, then you are willfully uninformed. Being willfully uninformed
    is completely irresponsible.

    HAND
     
    BinaryBillTheSailor@Sea++.com, Oct 27, 2010
    #18
  19. OldGringo38

    Meat Plow Guest

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:53:16 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:

    > On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 18:29:22 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:23:26 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 18:20:14 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    >>> <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:12:50 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 18:10:02 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    >>>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:55:38 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:49:41 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    >>>>>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:48:22 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:37:19 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    >>>>>>>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:26:56 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> Many folks deliberately leave their wi-fi open in the spirit
    >>>>>>>>>>> of sharing.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>I know of no such folks.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> I know of MANY.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> It's really quite common.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Common among ignorant people maybe.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Actually, quite the opposite.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Try googling on the subject of leaving wifi open, and maybe you
    >>>>>>> will learn something new today. There has been a lot of discussion
    >>>>>>> about it for a long time.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Allowing you access point to operate unsecured is idiotic. You won't
    >>>>>>find a responsible person in the world that will disagree.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> That's just the beginning of where you are wrong.
    >>>>
    >>>>It's time you start providing proof that I'm wrong.
    >>>
    >>> http://www.openwifispots.com/
    >>>
    >>> Looks like a pretty widespread practice to me.
    >>>
    >>> Look at all those irresponsible major corporations, governments and
    >>> small businesses!

    >>
    >>I said responsible people. Irresponsible people are just that. Doesn't
    >>imply they are responsible people that wish to operate unsecure wifi in
    >>the name of sharing.
    >>
    >>Now, quote a 'responsible' person who thinks unsecured wifi isn't an
    >>idiotic idea.

    >
    > I already gave you a link to thousands of examples. If that's not
    > enough, then you are willfully uninformed. Being willfully uninformed is
    > completely irresponsible.
    >
    > HAND


    I'm willfully informed. Irresponsible management of any network is not
    only idiotic but lends to abuse and the real possibility of harm to the
    network and its infrastructure. By allowing any old person to plug in or
    access uncontrolled, unsecured wireless you are painting a target for
    those who would willfully and maliciously compromise the network. Once
    this happens and it will, say goodbye to your bandwidth provider as they
    will terminate your access to their bandwidth and save themselves the
    real possibility of legal repercussions in the form of fines and other
    sanctions. Anyone willfully allowing this scenario is an idiot. And if
    employed to administrate such irresponsibility should themselves be
    immediately terminated no questions asked.

    You now know my position and there is nothing you could possibly present
    that would change my mind.



    --
    Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse
     
    Meat Plow, Oct 27, 2010
    #19
  20. On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 19:39:21 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
    <> wrote:

    >On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:53:16 -0400, BinaryBillTheSailor wrote:
    >


    >> I already gave you a link to thousands of examples. If that's not
    >> enough, then you are willfully uninformed. Being willfully uninformed is
    >> completely irresponsible.
    >>
    >> HAND

    >
    >I'm willfully informed. Irresponsible management of any network is not
    >only idiotic but lends to abuse and the real possibility of harm to the
    >network and its infrastructure. By allowing any old person to plug in or
    >access uncontrolled, unsecured wireless you are painting a target for
    >those who would willfully and maliciously compromise the network. Once
    >this happens and it will, say goodbye to your bandwidth provider as they
    >will terminate your access to their bandwidth and save themselves the
    >real possibility of legal repercussions in the form of fines and other
    >sanctions. Anyone willfully allowing this scenario is an idiot. And if
    >employed to administrate such irresponsibility should themselves be
    >immediately terminated no questions asked.
    >
    >You now know my position and there is nothing you could possibly present
    >that would change my mind.


    Obviously. Nothing can change a closed mind.

    My condolences.
     
    BinaryBillTheSailor@Sea++.com, Oct 27, 2010
    #20
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