Re: Here's an Judge we need

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by Bert Hyman, Feb 4, 2010.

  1. Bert Hyman

    Bert Hyman Guest

    In news: Evan Platt
    <> wrote:

    > The Commission on Judicial Performance, which disciplines state
    > judges, said Tuesday that Klein was biased and abusive. It also said
    > he improperly communicated with the press by e-mailing his decision to
    > a small newspaper.
    >
    > Klein later rescinded his order to pay the attorney with coupons. He
    > retired in November.


    So, just why do you need him?

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    Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN
    Bert Hyman, Feb 4, 2010
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  2. Bert Hyman

    Mike Easter Guest

    Bert Hyman wrote:
    > Evan Platt


    >> Klein later rescinded his order to pay the attorney with coupons.


    > So, just why do you need him?


    The plaintiffs didn't get much of anything useful from their suit. The
    attorney who represented them was getting a bunch of $$ in his
    settlement. The judge tho't it would be good and fair that the atty got
    his fees in the same kind of relatively useless tender that his
    plaintiffs got.

    That is so typical of class actions - the class gets trodden by the
    abuser, then they take action in court via their lawyers and their suit
    gets settled by their clever - as in interested in their own rewards -
    atty/s and thus the plaintiff atty/s get rich and/but the class gets
    relatively nothing.

    The judge was trying to strike back and make a point about the inequity
    since he was retiring anyway, but his ploy didn't work.


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    Mike Easter
    Mike Easter, Feb 4, 2010
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  3. Bert Hyman

    Bert Hyman Guest

    In news: Evan Platt
    <> wrote:

    > On 04 Feb 2010 23:38:33 GMT, Bert Hyman <> wrote:
    >
    >>So, just why do you need him?

    >
    > There'd be a whole lot less of these silly class action lawsuits if
    > the attorneys and the class leader (or whatever they call the person
    > who initiates the class suit) got paid the same way the class members
    > got paid.


    You missed this part?

    > The Commission on Judicial Performance, which disciplines state
    > judges, said Tuesday that Klein was biased and abusive. It also said
    > he improperly communicated with the press by e-mailing his decision to
    > a small newspaper.



    --
    Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN
    Bert Hyman, Feb 4, 2010
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  4. Bert Hyman

    Mike Easter Guest

    Mike Easter wrote:

    > That is so typical of class actions - the class gets trodden


    Here's a more comprehensive article with more real details of the case:


    http://snipr.com/u9x2e The California Civil Justice Blog - The Civil
    Justice Association of California salutes the judge for his innovation.
    In many class action cases, the lawyers walk away with millions -- in
    real dollars, while the class members receive coupons. -- These cases
    illustrate a central problem of class action lawsuits in California --
    the pressure to settle cases, meritorious or not -- after the class has
    been certified. In California, only the plaintiff has the right to
    appeal the all-important class certification decision at the outset of a
    case. If both sides were allowed the same right to appeal the
    certification decision, there would be a greatly reduced opportunity to
    leverage a questionable class action lawsuit into a big settlement.

    That article also has a link to another article which describes the
    'problem' (which store's actions were against the law) which the class
    suffered:

    "purchased merchandise from Defendant’s stores in the State of
    California, used a credit card to make the purchase(s), and whose
    address, E mail address or telephone number was requested and recorded
    by a Windsor Fashions employee."

    So, since the stupid store was in violation of the law and the rights of
    its customers, there was a 'meritorious' tort which process has to be
    certified by the class action 'oversight' system.

    The store and the class's atty (got together and) figured a way to
    settle the case with the atty getting something and the store getting to
    induce those wronged customers to come back while not paying any real
    bucks and the judge didn't like it.

    "What Fineman has done is to promote purchases at the defendants’ stores."

    .... where which Fineman is supposed to be representing the customers who
    had the suit against the store - not making a good deal for the store
    and himself.


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    Mike Easter
    Mike Easter, Feb 5, 2010
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