Re: has the world of computers gone quiet

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Malcolm, Aug 10, 2011.

  1. Malcolm

    Malcolm Guest

    On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:58:55 +1200
    Robert Cooze <c_o-o_z-e_r-b_@-c-o-o-z-eD_O_Tc_oD_O_Tnz> wrote:

    > Or is there nothing left to see or say....


    We are all having a party at the restaurant at the end of the
    internet...

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    Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
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    Malcolm, Aug 10, 2011
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  2. Malcolm

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Somewhere on teh intarwebs Malcolm wrote:
    > On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:58:55 +1200
    > Robert Cooze <c_o-o_z-e_r-b_@-c-o-o-z-eD_O_Tc_oD_O_Tnz> wrote:
    >
    >> Or is there nothing left to see or say....

    >
    > We are all having a party at the restaurant at the end of the
    > internet...


    I think you've had one too many Pangalactic Gargleblasters! ;-)
    --
    Shaun.

    "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a
    monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also
    into you." Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
     
    ~misfit~, Aug 11, 2011
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  3. Malcolm

    Malcolm Guest

    On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:43:38 +1200
    "~misfit~" <> wrote:

    > Somewhere on teh intarwebs Malcolm wrote:
    > > On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:58:55 +1200
    > > Robert Cooze <c_o-o_z-e_r-b_@-c-o-o-z-eD_O_Tc_oD_O_Tnz> wrote:
    > >
    > >> Or is there nothing left to see or say....

    > >
    > > We are all having a party at the restaurant at the end of the
    > > internet...

    >
    > I think you've had one too many Pangalactic Gargleblasters! ;-)


    Nah not enough yet.... way to hot here, heat index for the last few
    weeks has been between 40C and 48C

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    Malcolm, Aug 11, 2011
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  4. Malcolm

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Somewhere on teh intarwebs geoff wrote:
    > ~misfit~ wrote:
    >> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Malcolm wrote:
    >>> On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:58:55 +1200
    >>> Robert Cooze <c_o-o_z-e_r-b_@-c-o-o-z-eD_O_Tc_oD_O_Tnz> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Or is there nothing left to see or say....
    >>>
    >>> We are all having a party at the restaurant at the end of the
    >>> internet...

    >>
    >> I think you've had one too many Pangalactic Gargleblasters! ;-)

    >
    > Naa. Greasy Lazzo has scared everybody away.


    I think you'll find that the folks who *aren't* into OS wars and Ad Hominem
    attacks are still here and will post when they want / need to. ;-)
    --
    Shaun.

    "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a
    monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also
    into you." Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
     
    ~misfit~, Aug 11, 2011
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  5. Malcolm

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Somewhere on teh intarwebs Malcolm wrote:
    > On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:43:38 +1200
    > "~misfit~" <> wrote:
    >
    >> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Malcolm wrote:
    >>> On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:58:55 +1200
    >>> Robert Cooze <c_o-o_z-e_r-b_@-c-o-o-z-eD_O_Tc_oD_O_Tnz> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Or is there nothing left to see or say....
    >>>
    >>> We are all having a party at the restaurant at the end of the
    >>> internet...

    >>
    >> I think you've had one too many Pangalactic Gargleblasters! ;-)

    >
    > Nah not enough yet.... way to hot here, heat index for the last few
    > weeks has been between 40C and 48C


    Bloody hell! I've been freezing my arse off as I can't afford to heat the
    house. 12ºC or less at my desk most evenings last week and only getting up
    to 14 or 15 during the day. The last couple of days have been the exception
    (or the start of the end of winter?).

    Cheers,
    --
    Shaun.

    "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a
    monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also
    into you." Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
     
    ~misfit~, Aug 11, 2011
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  6. Malcolm

    Malcolm Guest

    On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:30:13 +1200
    Robert Cooze <c_o-o_z-e_r-b_@-c-o-o-z-eD_O_Tc_oD_O_Tnz> wrote:

    > On 11/08/11 12:42, geoff wrote:
    > > ~misfit~ wrote:
    > >> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Malcolm wrote:
    > >>> On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:58:55 +1200
    > >>> Robert Cooze<c_o-o_z-e_r-b_@-c-o-o-z-eD_O_Tc_oD_O_Tnz> wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>> Or is there nothing left to see or say....
    > >>>
    > >>> We are all having a party at the restaurant at the end of the
    > >>> internet...
    > >>
    > >> I think you've had one too many Pangalactic Gargleblasters! ;-)

    > >
    > > Naa. Greasy Lazzo has scared everybody away.
    > >
    > > geoff
    > >
    > >

    > Now I see the answer must be 42 again :)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42_Puzzle#42_Puzzle

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    Malcolm, Aug 11, 2011
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  7. Malcolm

    Me Guest

    On 11/08/2011 2:16 p.m., ~misfit~ wrote:

    >
    > Bloody hell! I've been freezing my arse off as I can't afford to heat the
    > house. 12ºC or less at my desk most evenings last week and only getting up
    > to 14 or 15 during the day. The last couple of days have been the exception
    > (or the start of the end of winter?).
    >

    That's no good. What part of the country are you in?
    Can you afford to run a heat pump, if you can get one at the right price?
     
    Me, Aug 11, 2011
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  8. Malcolm

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Somewhere on teh intarwebs Me wrote:
    > On 11/08/2011 2:16 p.m., ~misfit~ wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> Bloody hell! I've been freezing my arse off as I can't afford to
    >> heat the house. 12ºC or less at my desk most evenings last week and
    >> only getting up to 14 or 15 during the day. The last couple of days
    >> have been the exception (or the start of the end of winter?).
    >>

    > That's no good. What part of the country are you in?


    I'm in Pukekohe.

    > Can you afford to run a heat pump, if you can get one at the right
    > price?


    Maybe in the evenings, for a couple of hours. However, as I rent a heatpump
    is problematical as (IUI) they require modifications to the house. Bit of an
    issue if you move, having to blank off holes etcetera. (not that I plan to
    move....)

    Cheers,
    --
    Shaun.

    "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a
    monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also
    into you." Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
     
    ~misfit~, Aug 11, 2011
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  9. Malcolm

    Rob Davison Guest

    On 8/11/2011 9:36 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    > Somewhere on teh intarwebs Me wrote:
    >> On 11/08/2011 2:16 p.m., ~misfit~ wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>> Bloody hell! I've been freezing my arse off as I can't afford to
    >>> heat the house. 12ºC or less at my desk most evenings last week and
    >>> only getting up to 14 or 15 during the day. The last couple of days
    >>> have been the exception (or the start of the end of winter?).
    >>>

    >> That's no good. What part of the country are you in?

    >
    > I'm in Pukekohe.


    Jaysus, north islanders...

    http://www.pbase.com/mapleglen/bigsnow

    ....ice on the *inside* of the bedroom window is not uncommon
    of a morning.

    It has been quiet here lately. Larry discovered girls or something? ;-)


    Rob.
    --
     
    Rob Davison, Aug 11, 2011
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  10. Malcolm

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Somewhere on teh intarwebs Rob Davison wrote:
    > On 8/11/2011 9:36 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    >> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Me wrote:
    >>> On 11/08/2011 2:16 p.m., ~misfit~ wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Bloody hell! I've been freezing my arse off as I can't afford to
    >>>> heat the house. 12ºC or less at my desk most evenings last week and
    >>>> only getting up to 14 or 15 during the day. The last couple of days
    >>>> have been the exception (or the start of the end of winter?).
    >>>>
    >>> That's no good. What part of the country are you in?

    >>
    >> I'm in Pukekohe.

    >
    > Jaysus, north islanders...
    >
    > http://www.pbase.com/mapleglen/bigsnow
    >
    > ...ice on the *inside* of the bedroom window is not uncommon
    > of a morning.


    Yeah, I spent the first decade+ of my life in England and am quite familiar
    with snow. Also I've always been warm-blooded, just put another jersey on
    sort of thing.

    However, since I turned 50 I find that I feel the cold a lot more. Also,
    being on opioid painkillers slows the circulation and makes you more
    susceptible to cold.

    > It has been quiet here lately. Larry discovered girls or something?
    > ;-)
    >
    > Rob.


    LOL, "or something" I think. <g>
    --
    Shaun.

    "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a
    monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also
    into you." Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
     
    ~misfit~, Aug 11, 2011
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  11. Malcolm

    Me Guest

    On 11/08/2011 9:36 p.m., ~misfit~ wrote:
    > Somewhere on teh intarwebs Me wrote:
    >> On 11/08/2011 2:16 p.m., ~misfit~ wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>> Bloody hell! I've been freezing my arse off as I can't afford to
    >>> heat the house. 12ºC or less at my desk most evenings last week and
    >>> only getting up to 14 or 15 during the day. The last couple of days
    >>> have been the exception (or the start of the end of winter?).
    >>>

    >> That's no good. What part of the country are you in?

    >
    > I'm in Pukekohe.
    >
    >> Can you afford to run a heat pump, if you can get one at the right
    >> price?

    >
    > Maybe in the evenings, for a couple of hours. However, as I rent a heatpump
    > is problematical as (IUI) they require modifications to the house. Bit of an
    > issue if you move, having to blank off holes etcetera. (not that I plan to
    > move....)
    >

    Perhaps something like this could be okay:
    http://www.trademe.co.nz/Home-living/Heating-cooling/Heaters/Heat-pumps/auction-398286512.htm
    (I've never used one like that, but it should work and be much less
    expensive to run than a conventional heater)

    Would your landlord install a proper heat pump? The cost to them is
    tax-deductible, it adds value to their asset, and any decent landlord
    with good tenants should IMO do the right thing.
     
    Me, Aug 11, 2011
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  12. Malcolm

    grum Guest

    On 12/08/2011 12:33 a.m., ~misfit~ wrote:

    > However, since I turned 50 I find that I feel the cold a lot more. Also,
    > being on opioid painkillers slows the circulation and makes you more
    > susceptible to cold.
    >

    Not to belittle your suffering at all, I'm 50+ with disc issues too, but
    this did remind me of how I like to describe opiates - "Stuff still
    hurts, but you don't care."
    PS Pushups are good for warming up (especially once you can do more than
    one at a time :)\

    See, the world of computers is alive and well!
     
    grum, Aug 12, 2011
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  13. Malcolm

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Somewhere on teh intarwebs grum wrote:
    > On 12/08/2011 12:33 a.m., ~misfit~ wrote:
    >
    >> However, since I turned 50 I find that I feel the cold a lot more.
    >> Also, being on opioid painkillers slows the circulation and makes
    >> you more susceptible to cold.
    >>

    > Not to belittle your suffering at all, I'm 50+ with disc issues too,


    Yeah. Ain't it a bitch? My spine has moved 0.8cm rearwards off my pelvis
    where the disc burst and, if I move (especially twist) too much I'm dealing
    with bone-on-bone:

    http://test.internet-webmaster.de/upload/1298068953.jpg

    The loss of the disc and things being out of place result in the lower nerve
    root being pinched where it exits the spinal cord causing numbness,
    tingling, shooting pains and weakness from my areshole to my toes:

    http://test.internet-webmaster.de/upload/1298068978.jpg

    > but this did remind me of how I like to describe opiates - "Stuff
    > still hurts, but you don't care."


    LOL, I don't get that amount of opiates and wouldn't take them if I did.
    They make me too lethargic (compounded by the fact that I've always been
    physically lazy) and I'd be even further behind in the 'chores' than I am
    now! I get just enough to 'take the edge off', so that, if I get a "twinge"
    I don't drop to my knees involuntarily.

    The muculo-skeletal specialist who ordered this MRI said that I shouldn't be
    mowing my own lawns, vacuuming the house or even standing at the bench for
    as long as it takes to wash dishes etc. Unfortunately W&I don't see it that
    way.

    > PS Pushups are good for warming up (especially once you can do more
    > than one at a time :)\


    LOL, I can probably do a couple if I take two day's meds an hour before.
    Most days it takes me so long to get out of bed that, if someone was at the
    door, they're long gone by the time I get there. About the best excercise I
    can manage is walking (when the pain allows). However it's not a great idea
    to be walking around this neighbourhood if I want to see 60. :-/

    > See, the world of computers is alive and well!


    It is, thank the gods! It's the only world I can participate it, financially
    of physically. ;-)
    --
    Shaun.

    "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a
    monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also
    into you." Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
     
    ~misfit~, Aug 12, 2011
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  14. Malcolm

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Somewhere on teh intarwebs Kiwi wrote:
    > On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:14:30 +1200, "~misfit~"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >> I think you'll find that the folks who *aren't* into OS wars and Ad
    >> Hominem attacks are still here and will post when they want / need
    >> to. ;-)

    >
    > I agree with you. I gave up OS wars many years ago. As a
    > user/installer of several in my work environment, I can't be bothered
    > with the "My OS is bigger/better than yours."
    >
    > I don't post much, but sometimes I have to respond to Mr Sheppard's
    > posts.
    >
    > Cheers, Kiwi


    Heh! I killfile each of his new aliases as he creates them. He pisses me off
    too much.
    --
    Shaun.

    "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a
    monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also
    into you." Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
     
    ~misfit~, Aug 12, 2011
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  15. Malcolm

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Somewhere on teh intarwebs Me wrote:
    > On 11/08/2011 9:36 p.m., ~misfit~ wrote:
    >> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Me wrote:
    >>> On 11/08/2011 2:16 p.m., ~misfit~ wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Bloody hell! I've been freezing my arse off as I can't afford to
    >>>> heat the house. 12ºC or less at my desk most evenings last week and
    >>>> only getting up to 14 or 15 during the day. The last couple of days
    >>>> have been the exception (or the start of the end of winter?).
    >>>>
    >>> That's no good. What part of the country are you in?

    >>
    >> I'm in Pukekohe.
    >>
    >>> Can you afford to run a heat pump, if you can get one at the right
    >>> price?

    >>
    >> Maybe in the evenings, for a couple of hours. However, as I rent a
    >> heatpump is problematical as (IUI) they require modifications to the
    >> house. Bit of an issue if you move, having to blank off holes
    >> etcetera. (not that I plan to move....)
    >>

    > Perhaps something like this could be okay:
    > http://www.trademe.co.nz/Home-living/Heating-cooling/Heaters/Heat-pumps/auction-398286512.htm
    > (I've never used one like that, but it should work and be much less
    > expensive to run than a conventional heater)
    >
    > Would your landlord install a proper heat pump? The cost to them is
    > tax-deductible, it adds value to their asset, and any decent landlord
    > with good tenants should IMO do the right thing.


    Unfortunately this house isn't worth spending money on. It changed hands a
    few years back with me as a sitting tenant and I spoke with most surveyors
    who came through. It needs way more spending on it than it's worth, it'd be
    cheaper to bulldoze it and re-build. The new landlords made it clear that
    they were going to leave the house as-is for as long as possible, then knock
    it down or sell. Then, two years after they bought the place (their first
    experience with owning an 'investment property') the husband was diagnosed
    with cancer and died three months later. The wife can only just keep up the
    property as it is.

    I've just finished filling out my six-monthly begging form for continuation
    of my special benefit and am about to drop it off at W&I. Looking at my
    finances I'm not sure that I could run a heatpump* for more than a few hours
    each winter and I don't think it's worth bothering the landlord over that.

    (*I'm quite familiar with heatpumps and the efficiency thereof, I used to
    use them in my business, breeding tropical fish [amongst other related
    things], before I injured my back, and long before they appeared on the
    domestic market.)

    Cheers,
    --
    Shaun.

    "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a
    monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also
    into you." Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
     
    ~misfit~, Aug 12, 2011
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  16. Malcolm

    nospam Guest

    Have you thought of playing bridge? Based on your IQ you'd be really
    good. If you're north/south you can stay sitting at the same table
    instead of moving. You can play it free online too.
     
    nospam, Aug 12, 2011
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  17. Malcolm

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Somewhere on teh intarwebs nospam wrote:
    > Have you thought of playing bridge? Based on your IQ you'd be really
    > good. If you're north/south you can stay sitting at the same table
    > instead of moving. You can play it free online too.


    I haven't played bridge for years, I'd have to read a refresher of the
    rules. I used to play 500 a lot, and euchre....

    Actually though I'm not in need of things to do, quite the opposite!

    Cheers,
    --
    Shaun.

    "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a
    monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also
    into you." Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
     
    ~misfit~, Aug 12, 2011
    #17
  18. Malcolm

    JohnO Guest

    On 12/08/2011 3:31 p.m., ~misfit~ wrote:
    > Somewhere on teh intarwebs nospam wrote:
    >> Have you thought of playing bridge? Based on your IQ you'd be really
    >> good. If you're north/south you can stay sitting at the same table
    >> instead of moving. You can play it free online too.

    >
    > I haven't played bridge for years, I'd have to read a refresher of the
    > rules. I used to play 500 a lot, and euchre....
    >
    > Actually though I'm not in need of things to do, quite the opposite!
    >
    > Cheers,


    Ah, 500! My God, the years of my life I frittered away playing that damn
    game!
     
    JohnO, Aug 12, 2011
    #18
  19. Malcolm

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Somewhere on teh intarwebs JohnO wrote:
    > On 12/08/2011 3:31 p.m., ~misfit~ wrote:
    >> Somewhere on teh intarwebs nospam wrote:
    >>> Have you thought of playing bridge? Based on your IQ you'd be
    >>> really good. If you're north/south you can stay sitting at the
    >>> same table instead of moving. You can play it free online too.

    >>
    >> I haven't played bridge for years, I'd have to read a refresher of
    >> the rules. I used to play 500 a lot, and euchre....
    >>
    >> Actually though I'm not in need of things to do, quite the opposite!
    >>
    >> Cheers,

    >
    > Ah, 500! My God, the years of my life I frittered away playing that
    > damn game!


    Heh! Yeah, brings back memories..... I haven't played it for 20 years but I
    used to be bloody good at it, especially once I got to know my partner's
    idiosyncracies. One partner I had, we were unbeatable. I'm a bit psychic....
    and / or psycho. ;-)

    Actually, I should look and see if there's some geriatric 500 club or
    similar around this town. It's quite an exhilarating game when played by and
    with folks who are good at it.
    --
    Shaun.

    "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a
    monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also
    into you." Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
     
    ~misfit~, Aug 12, 2011
    #19
  20. Malcolm

    nospam Guest

    On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:31:57 +1200, "~misfit~"
    <> wrote:

    >Somewhere on teh intarwebs nospam wrote:
    >> Have you thought of playing bridge? Based on your IQ you'd be really
    >> good. If you're north/south you can stay sitting at the same table
    >> instead of moving. You can play it free online too.

    >
    >I haven't played bridge for years, I'd have to read a refresher of the
    >rules. I used to play 500 a lot, and euchre....


    The rules aren't that hard - best card wins, trump beats a non
    trump. Suit rankings different to 500 - spades (top), hearts,
    diamonds, clubs. There's no joker and there's 4 players with 13 cards
    each. Bidding and play goes clockwise. Person on the left of the
    person who wins the contract leads the first card. A contract of one
    clubs is the lowest contract and means you think you're gonna win 7
    out of 13 tricks. If you want to try one of the hardest bridge
    puzzles, see
    http://tedmuller.us/Bridge/Puzzles/M02-TheWhitfieldSix.htm

    - there's six rounds/tricks to go. South - the guy with the jack of
    clubs, needs to win all six tricks. So, lets suppose he leads the 4
    of spades, west plays the seven, south plays a card for north (north
    is the dummy) and south plays the 3 of hearts, east plays the 2 of
    spades - so north wins the trick coz hearts are trumps. Now north
    has to lead something (south chooses) - say he leads the 9 of diamonds
    - bang, west wins with the king - so can't do this. Hmm, what to
    do. In a real game, you don't necessarily know which hand has the
    king of diamonds either - in which case, you have to gamble and assume
    west has it and finesse through him.

    It's a hard one to solve even for experienced bridge players. In a
    real game, you get about 30 seconds to think and 6 to 7 minutes per
    hand which is not enough to solve a lot of problems.

    Anyway, 500 sounds fun too but I haven't played for a long time.
     
    nospam, Aug 13, 2011
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