Re: Good Anti-Spam software for Outlook Express 6

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by Howard Phillips, Oct 20, 2003.

  1. "anthonyberet" <> wrote in message
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    > ***Gthang**** wrote:
    > > Can anyone recommend any good anti-spam software that works along with
    > > Outlook Express 6 & Windows XP.



    >I would recommend the free SpamPal from www.SpamPal.org.

    It works by checking against Blocked Lists of known spammers, not content
    filtering.
    Howard Phillips, Oct 20, 2003
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  2. Howard Phillips

    Vanguard Guest

    You can add content filtering by getting the Bayesian plug-in. You
    could also use the RegEx plug-in but get ready for learning how to write
    regular expressions.

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    "Howard Phillips" <> wrote in message
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    > "anthonyberet" <> wrote in message
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    > > ***Gthang**** wrote:
    > > > Can anyone recommend any good anti-spam software that works along

    with
    > > > Outlook Express 6 & Windows XP.

    >
    >
    > >I would recommend the free SpamPal from www.SpamPal.org.

    > It works by checking against Blocked Lists of known spammers, not

    content
    > filtering.
    >
    >
    Vanguard, Oct 20, 2003
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  3. Howard Phillips

    Rob Guest

    I use mailwasher and find it excellent. It is free from www.Mailwasher.net


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    Rob, Oct 20, 2003
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  4. Recommend K9 from http://keir.net Very easy to set up and use. Works
    with any POP3 client. Only downside is that the docs are all online.

    Oh and it's quick and uses little resources.

    From Howard Phillips:

    >
    >"anthonyberet" <> wrote in message
    >news:b0urb5$tjlgh$...
    >> ***Gthang**** wrote:
    >> > Can anyone recommend any good anti-spam software that works along with
    >> > Outlook Express 6 & Windows XP.

    >
    >
    >>I would recommend the free SpamPal from www.SpamPal.org.

    >It works by checking against Blocked Lists of known spammers, not content
    >filtering.
    >
    >


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    Julian Knight, Oct 20, 2003
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  5. Howard Phillips

    badgolferman Guest

    Howard Phillips wrote:
    > "anthonyberet" <> wrote in message
    > news:b0urb5$tjlgh$...
    >> ***Gthang**** wrote:
    >>> Can anyone recommend any good anti-spam software that works along
    >>> with Outlook Express 6 & Windows XP.

    >
    >
    >> I would recommend the free SpamPal from www.SpamPal.org.

    > It works by checking against Blocked Lists of known spammers, not
    > content filtering.


    I recommend K9.
    http://keir.net/k9.html
    badgolferman, Oct 20, 2003
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  6. Howard Phillips

    Martin² Guest

    The best way to avoid spam is:
    1. Have 'unpredictable' address i.e. not john @ yahoo.com
    2. Do not to allow your address to be seen on any public place, i.e.
    newsgroups, webpages.
    3. Use disposable address for any temporary dealing with companies.

    If you start getting spam, there is no way of stopping it. Yes, filters etc.
    may ease the problem but not cure it.
    Just change your address, it's a bit painful, but in the long run less
    trouble then fending of the spam.
    Regards,
    Martin
    Martin², Oct 20, 2003
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  7. Howard Phillips

    Colin Wilson Guest

    > I recommend K9.
    > http://keir.net/k9.html


    Which I found was very impressive, but you have to download all the spam
    and possible viruses onto your system before it filters the crap.

    Mailwasher deletes it from the server so you don`t download it in the
    first place.

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    Colin Wilson, Oct 20, 2003
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  8. Howard Phillips

    Dick M. Guest

    I found that SpamPal eliminated all spam. Totally.
    I just wish I had installed it earlier.
    Dick


    "Martin²" wrote
    > The best way to avoid spam is:
    > 1. Have 'unpredictable' address i.e. not john @ yahoo.com
    > 2. Do not to allow your address to be seen on any public place, i.e.
    > newsgroups, webpages.
    > 3. Use disposable address for any temporary dealing with companies.
    >
    > If you start getting spam, there is no way of stopping it. Yes, filters

    etc.
    > may ease the problem but not cure it.
    > Just change your address, it's a bit painful, but in the long run less
    > trouble then fending of the spam.
    > Regards,
    > Martin
    >
    >
    Dick M., Oct 21, 2003
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  9. Howard Phillips

    Robert Guest

    On 20/10/2003 in message
    > news:b0urb5$tjlgh$...
    > > Gthang wrote:
    > > > Can anyone recommend any good anti-spam software that works along
    > > > with Outlook Express 6 & Windows XP.

    _______________
    Hi, Gthang!
    Even though it is much maligned on this newsgroup, and always for wrong
    reasons by people who obviously have used it incorrectly, I would
    recommend Magic Mail Monitor (http://home.fiam.net/mikejenn/MMM3.html).
    It's free, simple and powerful enough. It comes with a ready-made Swen
    virus plug-in filter (http://nakawe.sf.net/MMM3). Magic Mail Monitor
    has very convenient friends and black lists where you can use wild card
    jokers such as "*" or "?". If you put all known legitimate incoming
    email addresses or domain names in the friends list and any
    illegitimate in the blacklist over a period, you will have designed a
    very powerful global filter.
    Magic Mail Monitor works wonders against SPAM if you can think through
    proper filtering rules. Currently, Magic Mail Monitor catches ALL virus
    infected messages and ALL SPAM on my system.
    A word of advice: before you use the Magic Mail Monitor "Delete from
    server" option, define a set of rules and see how they apply to your
    mail. Use the "Delete from server" option only when you feel confident
    that your rules won't be applied to legitimate mail.
    I have personally also tried SpamPal. As far as I am concerned, it has
    major snags:
    a) it takes ages to filter a few messages that Magic Mail Monitor can
    process in a giffy.
    b) it has no header or message preview.
    c) it cannot delete from server directly.
    d) managing message rules and filtering seemed much too awkward and
    complex. In any case it would involve spending too much time over the
    few SPAM that I am actually receiving daily.
    I have come back to Magic Mail Monitor with great relief!
    --
    Cheers,
    Robert
    Robert, Oct 21, 2003
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  10. Howard Phillips

    MrG Guest

    Mailwasher!

    There can be only one.


    http://www.firetrust.com/home/



    "Julian Knight" <julian@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
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    > Recommend K9 from http://keir.net Very easy to set up and use. Works
    > with any POP3 client. Only downside is that the docs are all online.
    >
    > Oh and it's quick and uses little resources.
    >
    > From Howard Phillips:
    >
    > >
    > >"anthonyberet" <> wrote in message
    > >news:b0urb5$tjlgh$...
    > >> ***Gthang**** wrote:
    > >> > Can anyone recommend any good anti-spam software that works along

    with
    > >> > Outlook Express 6 & Windows XP.

    > >
    > >
    > >>I would recommend the free SpamPal from www.SpamPal.org.

    > >It works by checking against Blocked Lists of known spammers, not content
    > >filtering.
    > >
    > >

    >
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    MrG, Oct 21, 2003
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  11. Howard Phillips

    badgolferman Guest

    Colin Wilson wrote:
    >> I recommend K9.
    >> http://keir.net/k9.html

    >
    > Which I found was very impressive, but you have to download all the
    > spam and possible viruses onto your system before it filters the crap.
    >
    > Mailwasher deletes it from the server so you don`t download it in the
    > first place.


    K9 has a server check function where you can view headers before
    downloading.
    http://keir.net/k9_server.html
    badgolferman, Oct 22, 2003
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  12. Howard Phillips

    Colin Wilson Guest

    > > Mailwasher deletes it from the server so you don`t download it in the
    > > first place.

    > K9 has a server check function where you can view headers before
    > downloading.
    > http://keir.net/k9_server.html


    Perhaps that`s a new addition to the version I tried a couple of months
    ago then... It might be worth a second look then.

    The filtering *was* extremely effective on it !

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    Colin Wilson, Oct 22, 2003
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  13. From Colin Wilson:

    >> I recommend K9.
    >> http://keir.net/k9.html

    >
    >Which I found was very impressive, but you have to download all the spam
    >and possible viruses onto your system before it filters the crap.
    >
    >Mailwasher deletes it from the server so you don`t download it in the
    >first place.
    >

    But you have to actually go to the server and delete it? Whereas most of
    the spam I get, though it outnumbers the legit mail (only on my work
    account, my personal account does not need much spam filtering which is
    done on the server anyway) is not that large typically.
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    Julian Knight, Oct 22, 2003
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  14. Howard Phillips

    Colin Wilson Guest

    > >Mailwasher deletes it from the server so you don`t download it in the
    > >first place.

    > But you have to actually go to the server and delete it?


    It appears as a list of messages on the screen with simple filters like
    "delete" "bounce" and "blacklist" tickboxes, the "from", subject, date,
    and account.

    You can quickly scan through the list of pending email, your filters and
    blacklists will be automatically applied, and you simply hit a "process
    mail" icon and it will connect to all the mail servers for however many
    accounts and delete / bounce anything you didn`t want. It then loads your
    default email program ready to pick up the stuff that you didn`t mark for
    deletion.

    I get that much spam I scan the mail servers again before I collect my
    mail because I usually have at least 2 more "new" spam mails by the time
    its deleted the crap I had marked originally... :-}

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    Colin Wilson, Oct 24, 2003
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  15. From Colin Wilson:

    >> >Mailwasher deletes it from the server so you don`t download it in the
    >> >first place.

    >> But you have to actually go to the server and delete it?

    >
    >It appears as a list of messages on the screen with simple filters like
    >"delete" "bounce" and "blacklist" tickboxes, the "from", subject, date,
    >and account.
    >
    >You can quickly scan through the list of pending email, your filters and
    >blacklists will be automatically applied, and you simply hit a "process
    >mail" icon and it will connect to all the mail servers for however many
    >accounts and delete / bounce anything you didn`t want. It then loads your
    >default email program ready to pick up the stuff that you didn`t mark for
    >deletion.


    Hmm, as I thought. I have spam filtered to a folder that I check every
    few days. I've only had 3 false positives - ever - from K9 and they were
    not significant, just mailing list entries.

    It would be a pain for me to have to check through spam every time I
    collected my mail.

    >
    >I get that much spam I scan the mail servers again before I collect my
    >mail because I usually have at least 2 more "new" spam mails by the time
    >its deleted the crap I had marked originally... :-}
    >


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    Julian Knight, Oct 27, 2003
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  16. "Julian Knight" <julian@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
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    > From Colin Wilson:
    >
    > >> >Mailwasher deletes it from the server so you don`t download it in the
    > >> >first place.
    > >> But you have to actually go to the server and delete it?

    > >
    > >It appears as a list of messages on the screen with simple filters like
    > >"delete" "bounce" and "blacklist" tickboxes, the "from", subject, date,
    > >and account.
    > >
    > >You can quickly scan through the list of pending email, your filters and
    > >blacklists will be automatically applied, and you simply hit a "process
    > >mail" icon and it will connect to all the mail servers for however many
    > >accounts and delete / bounce anything you didn`t want. It then loads your
    > >default email program ready to pick up the stuff that you didn`t mark for
    > >deletion.

    >
    > Hmm, as I thought. I have spam filtered to a folder that I check every
    > few days. I've only had 3 false positives - ever - from K9 and they were
    > not significant, just mailing list entries.
    >
    > It would be a pain for me to have to check through spam every time I
    > collected my mail.
    >
    > >
    > >I get that much spam I scan the mail servers again before I collect my
    > >mail because I usually have at least 2 more "new" spam mails by the time
    > >its deleted the crap I had marked originally... :-}
    > >


    I tested the demo copy of Norton Antispam and found it very effective and
    easy to use. Comes with a popup blocker too. At the other end of the price
    spectrum, I have found SpamPal to work very well.
    Peter C. Bogert, Oct 27, 2003
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  17. Howard Phillips wrote:
    > "anthonyberet" <> wrote in message
    > news:b0urb5$tjlgh$...
    >
    >>***Gthang**** wrote:
    >>
    >>>Can anyone recommend any good anti-spam software that works along with
    >>>Outlook Express 6 & Windows XP.

    >
    >
    >
    >>I would recommend the free SpamPal from www.SpamPal.org.

    >
    > It works by checking against Blocked Lists of known spammers, not content
    > filtering.
    >
    >


    I'm surprised nobody has mentioned POPFile (popfile.sf.net), it's free
    and by far the most effective way of filtering spam (as well as sorting
    all your other mail).
    Zapp Brannigan, Oct 27, 2003
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  18. From Zapp Brannigan:

    >Howard Phillips wrote:
    >> "anthonyberet" <> wrote in message
    >> news:b0urb5$tjlgh$...
    >>
    >>>***Gthang**** wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>Can anyone recommend any good anti-spam software that works along with
    >>>>Outlook Express 6 & Windows XP.

    >>
    >>>I would recommend the free SpamPal from www.SpamPal.org.

    >> It works by checking against Blocked Lists of known spammers, not
    >>content
    >> filtering.
    >>

    >
    >I'm surprised nobody has mentioned POPFile (popfile.sf.net), it's free
    >and by far the most effective way of filtering spam (as well as sorting
    >all your other mail).


    It is rather large at 2.5MB vs K9's 99kB (or so) as it is based on PERL
    scripts. I've found that the tools based on PERL and PYTHON to be much
    slower under Windows than K9. There are also SAproxy (PERL based) and
    SpamBayes (PYTHON based) amongst others.

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    Julian Knight, Oct 28, 2003
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  19. Howard Phillips

    Bat Guano Guest

    Julian Knight wrote:

    >
    > It is rather large at 2.5MB vs K9's 99kB


    popfile.exe is 93 kB
    Bat Guano, Oct 28, 2003
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  20. From Bat Guano:

    >Julian Knight wrote:
    >
    >> It is rather large at 2.5MB vs K9's 99kB

    >
    >popfile.exe is 93 kB
    >


    From Sourceforge, the latest version:

    POPFile for Windows

    popfile v0.20.0 Windows 2003-10-16 00:00
    popfile-0.20.0b-windows.zip 5934910 17255 i386 .zip

    5 1/2 MB, the cross platform version is around 1.5 MB but that requires
    PERL to be installed which, if memory serves, is around 10MB on
    Windows(?)

    K9 1.13 (latest as of now) is 101kB for the download including the
    installer.
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    Julian Knight, Oct 29, 2003
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