Re: General question about studying

Discussion in 'MCSE' started by Davor Dzorlev, Nov 14, 2003.

  1. "Davor Dzorlev" <> wrote in message news:...
    > I hope your breath don't stinks so much like your stupid comments. It is

    not
    > my intention to make any point, but to initialize different opinions.

    Unlike
    > some others I don't just standing blindly behind my believes, but like any
    > normal person I am in constant learning process, so I am accepting better
    > ideas and suggestions than my current knowledge (if they are confirmed by
    > facts or by more experienced, but I don't accept something in form of
    > someone shitting). If you want people to believe in your words, you should
    > rephrase them and make the whole this bullshit of yours more pleasent to
    > read.
    >
    > "Consultant" <> wrote in message
    > news:%...
    > > you miss the whole point. ther certifications were intended as some form

    > of
    > > proof that validates an individual with experience in the field being
    > > tested. it was never meant as a piece of paper to get some noob's foot

    in
    > > the door as a tech. go whine somewhere else
    > >
    > >
    > > "Davor Dzorlev" <> wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > > > I don't know what to say. Lucky you!
    > > > You had an ideal conditions to certify. But for most cases today, it

    is
    > > very
    > > > rare for someone to give you a job for an administrator without having

    > > some
    > > > certification. And how can you gain such experience without working?!

    By
    > > > practice in your home lab for several years or maintaining some school
    > > > network several years for free? It goes like that story about the

    > chicken
    > > > and the egg. Anyway we are not arguing but discussing, and I

    completely
    > > > agree against cheating.
    > > >
    > > > "|{evin" <> wrote in message
    > > > news:...
    > > > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:53:21 +0100, "Davor Dzorlev"
    > > > > <> wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > >Yes but that process in real life of miss things and find out about

    > > them
    > > > is
    > > > > >also known as a gaining an experience. Obviously you have the rare

    > gift
    > > > to
    > > > > >be born experienced and that's why you are so surprised on this
    > > > phenomenon.
    > > > >
    > > > > Um, no. I was an admin for about 6 years and a developer for about 3
    > > > > years before I decided to get my MCSE and MCSD.
    > > > >
    > > > > >I see, in case you stuck somewhere in your work I guess you won't

    > post
    > > > your
    > > > > >sorrow here, but you will turn to your talent. And Yes the

    > > certification
    > > > is
    > > > >
    > > > > Google is my friend. I also have a network of experienced friends...
    > > > > when one of us runs up against something that stumps us...
    > > > > collaboration is only a phone call away.
    > > > >
    > > > > >"supposed to mean that you HAVE the experience", but in the real

    life
    > > it
    > > > > >reflects that you have "enough knowledge" (not real experience) to

    > take
    > > > the
    > > > > >certification (not all certifications, but most). And the main

    > purpose
    > > > (for
    > > > > >IT professional) is to succeed in the career more easy. Otherwise,

    > you
    > > > won't
    > > > >
    > > > > Yep.
    > > > >
    > > > > >probably certificate just for your satisfaction, to confirm your
    > > > experience,
    > > > > >to impress your parents or girlfriend. Don't be so romantic. But

    you
    > > are
    > > > > >right about not to 'fill in the gaps' with memorized answers, but

    > with
    > > > some
    > > > > >real knowledge and practice.
    > > > >
    > > > > I'm not sure if we're agreeing or arguing here... my point was that
    > > > > cheating to 'fill in the missing' experience is not acceptable.
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    Davor Dzorlev, Nov 14, 2003
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