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  1. Faahk Hugh

    Faahk Hugh Guest

    change_the_world wrote:
    > Welcome on
    > I have seen UFOs for several years and I've had contacts with some ET
    > beings.
    > I am 42, with both a technical education (military jet pilot and air
    > traffic controller), economic (masters) and management (airport
    > manager). From the age of six, I've had various spiritual type
    > experiences that are continually taking on more shape and meaning.
    > Among the many types of phenomena that have manifested during the last
    > two years, for example when I received a message on the
    > tri-dimensional nature of time (see
    >, while
    > a UFO was hanging over my house and had 'announced' its presence by a
    > terrific noise, and then when an enormous triangular craft flew over
    > my house when I was in the process of moving, followed by an aerial
    > battle of lights lasting 25 minutes, and also multiple apparitions of
    > celestial lights and ethereal creatures in my house, and finally,
    > after having learned how to mentally project myself to a place in the
    > presence of benevolent extraterrestrials, I received the following
    > message on behalf of their hierarchy.
    > Jean Ederman.
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------

    > Whoever transmitted this translated message to you is irrelevant, and
    > should remain anonymous in your mind. It is what you will do with this
    > message which
    > matters !
    > Each one of you wishes to exercise her/his free will and experience
    > happiness.
    > These are attributes that were shown to us and to which we now have
    > access. Your free will depends upon the knowledge you have of your own
    > power. Your happiness depends upon the love that you give and receive.
    > Like all conscious races at this stage of progress, you may feel
    > isolated on your planet. This impression makes you sure of your
    > destiny. Yet, you are at the brink of big upheavals that only a
    > minority is aware of.
    > It is not our responsibility to modify your future without you
    > choosing it. Consider this message as a worldwide referendum! And your
    > answer as a ballot!
    > Who are we ?
    > Neither your scientists nor your religious representatives speak
    > unanimously about the unexplained celestial events that mankind has
    > witnessed for thousands of years. To know the truth, one must face it
    > without the filter of one's beliefs, however respectable they may be.
    > A growing number of anonymous researchers of yours are exploring new
    > knowledge paths and are getting very close to reality. Today, your
    > civilisation is flooded with an ocean of information of which only a
    > tiny part, the less upsetting one, is notably diffused.
    > What in your history seemed ridiculous or improbable has often become
    > possible, then realised, in particular in the last fifty years. Be
    > aware that the future will be even more surprising. You will discover
    > the worst as well as the best.
    > Like billions others in this galaxy, we are conscious creatures that
    > some name "extra-terrestrials", even though reality is subtler.
    > There is no fundamental difference between you and us, save for the
    > experience of certain stages of evolution. Like in any other organised
    > structure, hierarchy exists in our internal relationships. Ours is
    > based upon the wisdom of several races. It is with the approval of
    > this hierarchy that we turn to you.
    > Like most of you, we are in the quest of the Supreme Being. Therefore
    > we are not gods or lesser gods but virtually your equals in the Cosmic
    > Brotherhood.
    > Physically, we are somewhat different from you but for most of us
    > humanoid-shaped.
    > Our existence is a reality but the majority of you does not perceive
    > it yet. We are not mere observations, we are consciences just like
    > you. You fail to apprehend us because we remain invisible to your
    > senses and measure instruments most of the time.
    > We wish to fill this void at this moment in your history. We made this
    > collective decision but this is not enough. We need yours. Through
    > this message, you become the decision-makers ! You personally.
    > We have no human representative on Earth who could guide your
    > decision.
    > Why aren't we visible ?
    > At certain stages of evolution, cosmic "humanities" discover new forms
    > of science beyond the apparent control of matter. Structured
    > dematerialisation and materialisation are part of them. This is what
    > your humanity has reached in a few laboratories, in close
    > collaboration with other "extra-terrestrial" creatures at the cost of
    > hazardous compromises that remain purposedly hidden from you by some
    > of your representatives.
    > Apart from the aerial or spatial objects or phenomena known about by
    > your scientific community, that you call 'UFOs, there are essentially
    > multidimensional manufactured spaceships that apply these capacities.
    > Many human beings have been in visual, auditory, tactile or psychic
    > contact with such ships, some of which are under occult powers that
    > "govern" you. The scarcity of your observations is due to the
    > outstanding advantages provided by the dematerialised state of these
    > ships.
    > By not witnessing them by yourself, you cannot believe in their
    > existence. We fully understand this.
    > The majority of these observations are made on an individual basis so
    > as to touch the soul and not to modify any organised system. This is
    > deliberate from the races that surround you but for very different
    > reasons and results.
    > For negative multidimensional beings that play a part in the exercise
    > of power in the shadow of human oligarchy, discretion is motivated by
    > their will to keep their existence and seizure unknown.
    > For us, discretion is motivated by the respect of the human free will
    > that people can exercise to manage their own affairs so that they can
    > reach technical and spiritual maturity on their own. Humankind's
    > entrance into the family of galactic civilisations is greatly
    > expected.
    > We can appear in broad daylight and help you attain this union. We
    > haven't done it so far, as too few of you have genuinely desired it,
    > because of ignorance, indifference or fear, and because the emergency
    > of the situation did not justify it. Many of those who study our
    > appearances count the lights in the night without lighting the way.
    > Often they think in terms of objects when it is all about conscious
    > beings.
    > Who are you ?
    > You are the offspring of many traditions that throughout time have
    > been mutually enriched by each others' contributions. The same applies
    > to the races at the surface of the Earth. Your goal is to unite in the
    > respect of these roots to accomplish a common project. The appearance
    > of your cultures seems to keep you separated because you substitute it
    > to your deeper being. Shape is now more important than the essence of
    > your subtle nature. For the powers in place, this prevalence of the
    > shape constitutes the ramparts against any form of jeopardy.
    > You are being called on to overcome shape while still respecting it
    > for its richness and beauty. Understanding the conscience of shape
    > makes us love men in their diversity. Peace does not mean not making
    > war, it consists in becoming what you are in reality: a same
    > Fraternity.
    > To understand this, the number of solutions within your reach are
    > decreasing. One of them consists in contact with another race that
    > would reflect the image of what you are in reality.
    > What is your situation ?
    > Except for rare occasions, our interventions always had very little
    > incidence on your capacity to make collective and individual decisions
    > about your own future. This is motivated by our knowledge of your deep
    > psychological mechanisms.
    > We reached the conclusion that freedom is built every day as a being
    > becomes aware of himself and of his environment, getting progressively
    > rid of constraints and inertias, whatever they may be. Despite the
    > numerous, brave and willing human consciences, those inertias are
    > artificially maintained for the profit of a growing centralising
    > power.
    > Until recently, mankind lived a satisfying control of its decisions.
    > But it is losing more and more the control of its own fate because of
    > the growing use of advanced technologies, which lethal consequences on
    > the earthly and human ecosystems become irreversible. You are slowly
    > but surely losing your extraordinary capacity to make life desirable.
    > Your resilience will artificially decrease, independently of your own
    > will. Such technologies exist that affect your body as well as your
    > mind. Such plans are on their way.
    > This can change as long as you keep this creative power in you, even
    > if it cohabits with the dark intentions of your potential lords. This
    > is the reason why we remain invisible. This individual power is doomed
    > to vanish should a collective reaction of great magnitude not happen.
    > The period to come is that of rupture, whichever it may be.
    > But should you wait for the last moment to find solutions ? Should you
    > anticipate or undergo pain ?
    > Your history has never ceased to be marked by encounters between
    > peoples who had to discover one another in conditions that were often
    > conflictual. Conquests almost always happened to the detriment of
    > others. Earth has now become a village where everyone knows everyone
    > else but still conflicts persist and threats of all kinds get worse in
    > duration and intensity.
    > Although a Human being as an individual, yet having many potential
    > capacities, cannot exercise them with dignity. This is the case for
    > the biggest majority of you for reasons that are essentially
    > geopolitical.
    > There are several billion of you. The education of your children and
    > your living conditions, as well as the conditions of numerous animals
    > and much plant life are nevertheless under the thumb of a small number
    > of your political, financial, military and religious representatives.
    > Your thoughts and beliefs are modelled after partisan interests to
    > turn you into slaves while at the same time giving you the feeling
    > that you are in total control of your destiny, which in essence is the
    > reality.
    > But there is a long way between a wish and a fact when the true rules
    > of the game at hand are unknown. This time, you are not the conqueror.
    > Biasing information is a millenary strategy for human beings.
    > Inducting thoughts, emotions or organisms that do not belong to you
    > via ad hoc technologies is an even older a strategy.
    > Wonderful opportunities of progress stand close to big subdual and
    > destruction threats. These dangers and opportunities exist now.
    > However, you can only perceive what is being shown to you. The end of
    > natural resources is programmed whereas no long-term collective
    > project has been launched.
    > Ecosystem exhaustion mechanisms have exceeded irreversible limits. The
    > scarcity of resources and their unfair distribution - resources which
    > entry price will rise day after day - will bring about fratricide
    > fights at a large scale, but also at the very heart of your cities and
    > countrysides.
    > Hatred grows bigger but so does love. That is what keeps you confident
    > in your ability to find solutions. But the critical mass is
    > insufficient and a sabotage work is cleverly being carried out.
    > Human behaviours, formed from past habits and trainings, have such an
    > inertia that this perspective leads you to a dead end. You entrust
    > these problems to representatives, whose conscience of common
    > well-being slowly fades away in front of corporatist interests, with
    > those difficulties. They are always debating on the form but rarely on
    > the content.
    > Just at the moment of action, delays will accumulate to the point when
    > you have to submit rather than choose. This is the reason why, more
    > than ever in your history, your decisions of today will directly and
    > significantly impact your survival of tomorrow.
    > What event could radically modify this inertia that is typical of any
    > civilisation ? Where will a collective and unifying awareness come
    > from, that will stop this blind rushing ahead ?
    > Tribes, populations and human nations have always encountered and
    > interacted with one another. Faced with the threats weighing upon the
    > human family, it is perhaps time that a greater interaction occurred.
    > A great roller wave is on the verge of emerging. It mixes very
    > positive but also very negative aspects.
    > Who are the "third party" ?
    > There are two ways to establish a cosmic contact with another
    > civilisation: via its standing representatives or directly with
    > individuals without distinction. The first way entails fights of
    > interests, the second way brings awareness.
    > The first way was chosen by a group of races motivated by keeping
    > mankind in slavery, thereby controlling Earth resources, the gene pool
    > and human emotional energy.
    > The second way was chosen by a group of races allied with the cause of
    > theSpirit of service. We have, at our end, subscribed to this
    > disinterested cause and introduced ourselves a few years ago to
    > representatives of the human power who refused our outstretched hand
    > on the pretext of incompatible interests with their strategic vision.
    > That is why today individuals are to make this choice by themselves
    > without any representative interfering. What we proposed in the past
    > to those whom we believed were in a capacity to contribute to your
    > happiness, we propose it now to ... you!
    > Most of you ignore that non-human creatures took part in the exercise
    > of those centralising powers without them being neither suspected nor
    > accessible to your senses. This is so true that they have almost very
    > subtly taken control. They do not necessarily stand on your material
    > plan, and that is precisely what could make them extremely efficient
    > and frightening in the near future. However, be aware that a large
    > number of your representatives are fighting this danger ! Be aware
    > that not all abductions are made against you. It is difficult to
    > recognize the truth !
    > How could you under such conditions exercise your free will when it is
    > so much manipulated ? What are you really free of ?
    > Peace and reunification of your peoples would be a first step toward
    > the harmony with civilisations other than yours.
    > That is precisely what those who manipulate you behind the scenes want
    > to avoid at all cost because, by dividing, they reign! They also reign
    > over those who govern you. Their strength comes from their capacity to
    > distillate mistrust and fear into you. This considerably harms your
    > very cosmic nature.
    > This message would be of no interest if these manipulators' tutorate
    > did not reach its peak and if their misleading and murderous plans did
    > not materialise in a few years from now. Their deadlines are close and
    > mankind will undergo unprecedented torments for the next ten cycles.
    > To defend yourselves against this aggression that bears no face, you
    > need at least to have enough information that leads to the solution.
    > As is also the case with humans, resistance exists amongst those
    > dominant races. Here again, appearance will not be enough to tell the
    > dominator from the ally. At your current state of psychism, it is
    > extremely difficult for you to distinguish between them. In addition
    > to your intuition, training will be necessary when the time has come.
    > Being aware of the priceless value of free will, we are inviting you
    > to an alternative.
    > What can we offer ?
    > We can offer you a more holistic vision of the universe and of life,
    > constructive interactions, the experience of fair and fraternal
    > relationships, liberating technical knowledge, eradiction of
    > suffering, controlled exercise of individual powers, the access to new
    > forms of energy and, finally, a better comprehension of consciousness.
    > We cannot help you overcome your individual and collective fears, or
    > bring you laws that you would not have chosen, work on your own
    > selves, individual and collective effort to build the world you
    > desire, the spirit of quest to new skies.
    > What would we receive ?
    > Should you decide that such a contact takes place, we would rejoice
    > over the safeguarding of fraternal equilibrium in this region of the
    > universe, fruitful diplomatic exchanges, and the intense Joy of
    > knowing that you are united to accomplish what you are capable of. The
    > feeling of Joy is strongly sought in the universe for its energy is
    > divine.
    > What is the question we ask you ?
    > How to can you answer this question ?
    > The truth of soul can be read by telepathy. You only need to clearly
    > ask yourself this question and give your answer as clearly, on your
    > own or in a group, as you wish. Being in the heart of a city or in the
    > middle of a desert does not impact the efficiency of your answer, YES
    > or NO, IMMEDIATELY AFTER ASKING THE QUESTION! Just do it as if you
    > were speaking to yourself but thinking about the message.
    > This is a universal question and these mere few words, put in their
    > context, have a powerful meaning. You should not let hesitation in the
    > way. This is why you should calmly think about it, in all conscience.
    > In order to perfectly associate your answer with the question, it is
    > recommended that you answer right after another reading of this
    > message.
    > Do not rush to answer. Breathe and let all the power of your own free
    > will penetrate you. Be proud of what you are ! The problems that you
    > may have weaken you. Forget about them for a few minutes to be
    > yourselves. Feel the force that springs up in you. You are in control
    > of yourselves !
    > A single thought, a single answer can drastically change your near
    > future, in one way as in another.
    > Your individual decision of asking in your inner self that we show up
    > on your material plan and in broad daylight is precious and essential
    > to us.
    > Even though you can choose the way that best suits you, rituals are
    > essentially useless. A sincere request made with your heart and your
    > own will will always be perceived by those of us whom it is sent to.
    > In your own private polling booth of your secret will, you will
    > determine the future.
    > What is the lever effect ?
    > This decision should be made by the greatest number among you, even
    > though it might seem like a minority. It is recommended to spread this
    > message, in all envisageable fashions, in as many languages as
    > possible, to those around you, whether or not they seem receptive to
    > this new vision of the future.
    > Do it using in a humorous tone or derision if that can help you. You
    > can even openly and publicly make fun of it if it makes you feel more
    > comfortable but do not be indifferent for at least you will have
    > exercised your free will.
    > Forget about the false prophets and the beliefs that have been
    > transmitted to you about us. This request is one of the most intimate
    > that can be asked to you.
    > Making a decision by yourself, as an individual, is your right as well
    > as your responsibility !
    > Passivity only leads to the absence of freedom. Similarly, indecision
    > is never efficient. If you really want to cling to your beliefs, which
    > is something that we understand, then say NO. If you do not know what
    > to choose, do not say YES because of mere curiosity. This is not a
    > show, this is real daily life, WE ARE ALIVE ! And living !
    > Your history has plenty of episodes when determined men and women were
    > able to influence the thread of events in spite of their small number.
    > Just like a small number is enough to take temporal power on Earth and
    > influence the future of the majority, a small number of you can
    > radically change your fate as an answer to the impotence in face of so
    > much inertia and hurdles ! You can ease the mankind's birth to
    > Brotherhood.
    > One of your thinkers once said: "Give me a hand-hold and I'll raise
    > the Earth".
    > Spreading this message will then be the hand-hold to strengthen, we
    > will be the light-years long lever, you will be the craftsmen to ...
    > raise the Earth as a consequence of our appearance.
    > What would be the consequences of a positive decision ?
    > For us, the immediate consequence of a collective favourable decision
    > would be the materialisation of many ships, in your sky and on Earth.
    > For you, the direct effect would be the rapid abandoning of many
    > certitudes and beliefs.
    > A simple conclusive visual contact would have huge repercussions on
    > your future. Much knowledge would be modified forever. The
    > organisation of your societies would be deeply upheaved for ever, in
    > all fields of activity. Power would become individual because you
    > would see for yourself that we are living. Concretely, you would
    > change the scale of your values !
    > The most important thing for us is that humankind would form a single
    > family in front of this "unknown" we would represent !
    > Danger would slowly melt away from your homes because you would
    > indirectly force the undesirable ones, those we name the "third
    > party", to show up and vanish. You would all bear the same name and
    > share the same roots: Mankind !
    > Later on, peaceful and respectful exchanges would be thus possible if
    > such is your wish. For now, he who is hungry cannot smile, he who is
    > fearful cannot welcome us. We are sad to see men, women and children
    > suffering to such a degree in their flesh and in their hearts when
    > they bear such an inner light.
    > This light can be your future. Our relationships could be progressive.
    > Several stages of several years or decades would occur: demonstrative
    > appearance of our ships, physical appearance beside human beings,
    > collaboration in your technical and spiritual evolution, discovery of
    > parts of the galaxy.
    > Every time, new choices would be offered to you. You would then decide
    > by yourself to cross new stages if you think it necessary to your
    > external and inner well-being. No interference would be decided upon
    > unilaterally. We would leave as soon as you would collectively wish
    > that we do.
    > Depending upon the speed to spread the message across the world,
    > several weeks, or even several months will be necessary before our
    > "great appearance", if such is the decision made by the majority of
    > those who will have used their capacity to choose, and if this message
    > receives the necessary support.
    > The main difference between your daily prayers to entities of a
    > strictly spiritual nature and your current decision is extremely
    > simple :
    > we are technically equipped to materialise!
    > Why such a historical dilemma ?
    > We know that "foreigners" are considered as enemies as long as they
    > embody the "unknown". In a first stage, the emotion that our
    > appearance will generate will strengthen your relationships on a
    > worldwide scale.
    > How could you know whether our arrival is the consequence of your
    > collective choice ? For the simple reason that we would have otherwise
    > been already there for a long time at your level of existence ! If we
    > are not there yet, it is because you have not made such a decision
    > explicitely.
    > Some among you might think that we would make you believe in a
    > deliberate choice of yours so as to legitimate our arrival, though
    > this would not be true. What interest would we have to openly offer
    > you what you haven't got any access to yet, for the benefit of the
    > greatest number of you ?
    > How could you be certain that this is not yet another subtle manoeuvre
    > of the "third party" to better enslave you ? Because one always more
    > efficiently fights something that is identified than the contrary.
    > Isn't the terrorism that corrodes you a blatant example ?
    > Whatever, you are the sole judge in your own heart and soul ! Whatever
    > your choice, it would be respectable and respected ! In the absence of
    > human representatives who could potentially seduce into error you
    > ignore everything about us as well as from about those who manipulate
    > you without your consent.
    > In your situation, the precautionary principle that consists in not
    > trying to discover us does no longer prevail. You are already in the
    > Pandora's box that the "third party" has created around you. Whatever
    > your decision may be you will have to get out of it.
    > In the face of such a dilemma, one ignorance against another, you need
    > to ask your intuition. Do you want to see us with your own eyes, or
    > simply believe what your thinkers say ? That is the real question!
    > After thousands of years, one day, this choice was going to be
    > inevitable: choosing between two unknowns.
    > Why spread such a message among yourselves ?
    > Translate and spread this message widely. This action will affect your
    > future in an irreversible and historical way at the scale of
    > milleniums, otherwise, it will postpone a new opportunity to choose to
    > several years later, at least one generation, if it can survive.
    > Not choosing, stands for undergoing other people's choice. Not
    > informing others stands for running the risk of obtaining a result
    > that is contrary to one's expectations. Remaining indifferent means
    > giving up one's free will.
    > It is all about your future. It is all about your evolution.
    > It is possible that this invitation does not receive your collective
    > assent and that, because of a lack of information, it will be
    > disregarded. Nevertheless no individual desire goes unheeded in the
    > universe.
    > Imagine our arrival tomorrow. Thousands of ships. A unique cultural
    > shock in today's mankind's history. It will then be too late to regret
    > about not making a choice and spreading the message because this
    > discovery will be irreversible. We do insist that you do not rush into
    > it, but do think about it ! And decide !
    > The big medias will not be necessarely interested in spreading this
    > message. It is therefore your task, as an anonymous yet an
    > extraordinary thinking and loving being, to transmit it.
    > You are still the architects of your own fate...

    We should just stay home.
    Faahk Hugh, Nov 13, 2003
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  2. Faahk Hugh

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    On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:42:30 -0700, Faahk Hugh wrote:

    trim x-post to 24HSHD from

    >change_the_world wrote:
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    >We should just stay home.

    Idiot, cross/bottom posting 1 line in reply to over 560 lines of junk.

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    why? <fgrirp*sgc@VAINY!Qznq.fpvragvfg.pbz> wrote in

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    >>> Welcome on

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    >>We should just stay home.

    > Idiot, cross/bottom posting 1 line in reply to over 560 lines of
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