Re: Binaries

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  1. newbie

    newbie Guest

    for a newbie what is the right way to learn about binaries.
    Thanks
     
    newbie, Aug 26, 2005
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  2. newbie

    gangle Guest

    "newbie" wrote
    > for a newbie what is the right way to learn about binaries.
    > Thanks


    To assemble a multi-part binary using Outlook Express,
    click part 1, then, while holding down the Ctrl key,
    click each of the remaining parts. When you have
    highlighted the last part, Right click and choose
    "Combine and Decode." Make sure all parts are in
    order in the window that pops up, then click "OK."
    When all parts have downloaded and been decoded,
    a window will appear with the File Icon in the
    bottom left corner (OE4) or in the "Attach"
    line (OE5 & 6). Right click on the icon, choose
    "save as" and, within the browser window that
    appears, choose "Desktop" as the place to initially
    save it. If you want to keep it, you can later CUT and
    PASTE it from Desktop to any folder you want.

    IMPORTANT NOTE: In OE4 it is possible to download
    a multi-part binary while simultaneously reading or
    posting to other NGs, or reading/sending email -- But:
    in the "upgraded" OE5 & 6, downloading a multi-part file
    makes the program UNUSABLE for most other functions
    while the process goes on; so, if you frequently want to
    download multi-part binary files, it's more practical
    to use a dedicated news reading and posting program,
    such as Agent ("Full" Agent @ $29 -- NOT Free Agent):
    http://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.htm
    or Xnews (free):
    http://xnews.newsguy.com/
    or Gravity (free):
    http://lightning.prohosting.com/~tbates/gravity/start1.html
    for downloading binaries.
    Also, for $35, there is Newsbin, which is strictly
    for downloading binaries (no text):
    http://www.newsbin.com/ .
    You could still use OE 4, 5, or 6 as an email program
    and to view/post to text-only NGs, while using one of
    the above programs to retrieve binaries.

    About yEnc:

    yEnc is a type of binary-to-text encoding that has much
    less text "overhead" (about 3% more than the actual file
    size) than Uuencoded files (about 30% more than actual
    file size). For example, a 10 MB video file will be -- when
    converted to text for uploading and downloading:
    With yEnc: 10.3 MB -- With Uuencoding: 13 MB.
    So, it's easy to see why it's more efficient for both
    uploaders and downloaders to use yEnc.
    Unfortunately, OE does not internally decode yEnc
    encoded binaries, and never will because Microsoft
    just doesn't give a shit about OE as a newsreader.
    You must use a 3rd-party program to achieve this, the
    easiest being yProxy:
    http://www.brawnylads.com/software/ , but 3rd-party
    software is cumbersome at best. Since most multipart
    binaries are uploaded using yEnc, you really need to
    install and learn to use a dedicated news reader that
    decodes yEnc internally -- see the list above above
    (or do a search for "newsreaders").

    About RARs and PARs:

    RAR is widely used to archive multimedia type files (.avi,
    ..mpg, .mov, .rm, etc.) splitting them into sequentially
    numbered RAR parts. You need WinRar to decompress
    and reassemble the archive so that the multimedia file
    can be extracted:
    http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm
    (shareware, but always usable, even after the trial period).
    Tutorial:
    http://www.slyck.com/ng.php?page=5

    PAR or PAR2 files are "wild card" type files used to
    replace any RAR files that are incomplete/missing
    due to poor propagation by a news server.
    Tutorial:
    http://www.slyck.com/ng.php?page=6

    Also, if you're going to download a lot of
    binaries, it's good to subscribe to a premium
    news service that has high article completion
    and long article retention -- the gold standard
    of premium news service being Giganews
    (close to 100% article completion -- Par files
    almost never needed; up to *50 days* retention):
    http://www.giganews.com/
    A bit lesser, but "good" news service is Easynews:
    http://www.easynews.com/

    So, to sum up, what you need is:

    1--A "real," yEnc-capable newsreader

    2--WinRar

    3--Quickpar (to handle Par or Par2 files)

    and, optionally...

    4--An NFO (text file describing the binary upload) reader,
    such as the free Getinfo (here's a Direct Download link
    for that program:
    ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/utilmisc/getinfo.zip )

    5--Subscribe to a premium news service
     
    gangle, Aug 27, 2005
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  3. newbie

    newbie Guest

    gangle wrote:
    || "newbie" wrote
    ||| for a newbie what is the right way to learn about binaries.
    ||| Thanks
    ||
    || To assemble a multi-part binary using Outlook Express,
    || click part 1, then, while holding down the Ctrl key,
    || click each of the remaining parts. When you have
    || highlighted the last part, Right click and choose
    || "Combine and Decode." Make sure all parts are in
    || order in the window that pops up, then click "OK."
    || When all parts have downloaded and been decoded,
    || a window will appear with the File Icon in the
    || bottom left corner (OE4) or in the "Attach"
    || line (OE5 & 6). Right click on the icon, choose
    || "save as" and, within the browser window that
    || appears, choose "Desktop" as the place to initially
    || save it. If you want to keep it, you can later CUT and
    || PASTE it from Desktop to any folder you want.
    ||
    || IMPORTANT NOTE: In OE4 it is possible to download
    || a multi-part binary while simultaneously reading or
    || posting to other NGs, or reading/sending email -- But:
    || in the "upgraded" OE5 & 6, downloading a multi-part file
    || makes the program UNUSABLE for most other functions
    || while the process goes on; so, if you frequently want to
    || download multi-part binary files, it's more practical
    || to use a dedicated news reading and posting program,
    || such as Agent ("Full" Agent @ $29 -- NOT Free Agent):
    || http://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.htm
    || or Xnews (free):
    || http://xnews.newsguy.com/
    || or Gravity (free):
    || http://lightning.prohosting.com/~tbates/gravity/start1.html
    || for downloading binaries.
    || Also, for $35, there is Newsbin, which is strictly
    || for downloading binaries (no text):
    || http://www.newsbin.com/ .
    || You could still use OE 4, 5, or 6 as an email program
    || and to view/post to text-only NGs, while using one of
    || the above programs to retrieve binaries.
    ||
    || About yEnc:
    ||
    || yEnc is a type of binary-to-text encoding that has much
    || less text "overhead" (about 3% more than the actual file
    || size) than Uuencoded files (about 30% more than actual
    || file size). For example, a 10 MB video file will be -- when
    || converted to text for uploading and downloading:
    || With yEnc: 10.3 MB -- With Uuencoding: 13 MB.
    || So, it's easy to see why it's more efficient for both
    || uploaders and downloaders to use yEnc.
    || Unfortunately, OE does not internally decode yEnc
    || encoded binaries, and never will because Microsoft
    || just doesn't give a shit about OE as a newsreader.
    || You must use a 3rd-party program to achieve this, the
    || easiest being yProxy:
    || http://www.brawnylads.com/software/ , but 3rd-party
    || software is cumbersome at best. Since most multipart
    || binaries are uploaded using yEnc, you really need to
    || install and learn to use a dedicated news reader that
    || decodes yEnc internally -- see the list above above
    || (or do a search for "newsreaders").
    ||
    || About RARs and PARs:
    ||
    || RAR is widely used to archive multimedia type files (.avi,
    || .mpg, .mov, .rm, etc.) splitting them into sequentially
    || numbered RAR parts. You need WinRar to decompress
    || and reassemble the archive so that the multimedia file
    || can be extracted:
    || http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm
    || (shareware, but always usable, even after the trial period).
    || Tutorial:
    || http://www.slyck.com/ng.php?page=5
    ||
    || PAR or PAR2 files are "wild card" type files used to
    || replace any RAR files that are incomplete/missing
    || due to poor propagation by a news server.
    || Tutorial:
    || http://www.slyck.com/ng.php?page=6
    ||
    || Also, if you're going to download a lot of
    || binaries, it's good to subscribe to a premium
    || news service that has high article completion
    || and long article retention -- the gold standard
    || of premium news service being Giganews
    || (close to 100% article completion -- Par files
    || almost never needed; up to *50 days* retention):
    || http://www.giganews.com/
    || A bit lesser, but "good" news service is Easynews:
    || http://www.easynews.com/
    ||
    || So, to sum up, what you need is:
    ||
    || 1--A "real," yEnc-capable newsreader
    ||
    || 2--WinRar
    ||
    || 3--Quickpar (to handle Par or Par2 files)
    ||
    || and, optionally...
    ||
    || 4--An NFO (text file describing the binary upload) reader,
    || such as the free Getinfo (here's a Direct Download link
    || for that program:
    || ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/utilmisc/getinfo.zip )
    ||
    || 5--Subscribe to a premium news service

    Was out hence delay.
    Thanks & Regards
     
    newbie, Aug 31, 2005
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