Re: Bill proposes ISPs, Wi-Fi keep logs for police

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by Evan Platt, Feb 23, 2009.

  1. Evan Platt

    Evan Platt Guest

    On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:15:36 -0500, richard <>
    wrote:

    >BULL FUCKING SHIT! (texas style!)
    >
    >Why do you think the proposal got dumped the last time?
    >
    >So Mr. Senator, like you've got a dozen computers in that fancy house
    >of yours and they're all connected via a wifi router right?
    >Like you're gonna play by your own rules? Yeah right.
    >
    >Now explain to me if you can sir, just exactly how are hotels, motels
    >and the like gonna keep records of every user on their system? Then,
    >how ya gonna know precisely which guest it is that used the system?
    >
    >As I live in motels, I know only too well many systems don't know who
    >is using their system. Is that user a guest or someone nearby?
    >
    >Now kindly go back to keep track of tumbleweeds you frickin fruitcake.


    Pretty simple. A few of our customers already have this configured for
    their setup.

    You want free access at our hotel? Provide a credit card number. You
    aren't charged. Your credit card will be authorized for $1, but not
    charged.

    Or, you want access? Go to the front desk. Front desk gives you
    username / password that's linked to you. (ie you're in room 33, your
    username is room33, your password is your last name.)

    Plenty of ways to do it.
    --
    To reply via e-mail, remove The Obvious from my e-mail address.
     
    Evan Platt, Feb 23, 2009
    #1
    1. Advertising

  2. Evan Platt

    Dan Guest

    Are the logs going to be used as evidence and who will foot the cost.
    I'm not buying all that extra equipment just to store some pointless log
    files.

    Evan Platt wrote:
    > On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:15:36 -0500, richard <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> BULL FUCKING SHIT! (texas style!)
    >>
    >> Why do you think the proposal got dumped the last time?
    >>
    >> So Mr. Senator, like you've got a dozen computers in that fancy house
    >> of yours and they're all connected via a wifi router right?
    >> Like you're gonna play by your own rules? Yeah right.
    >>
    >> Now explain to me if you can sir, just exactly how are hotels, motels
    >> and the like gonna keep records of every user on their system? Then,
    >> how ya gonna know precisely which guest it is that used the system?
    >>
    >> As I live in motels, I know only too well many systems don't know who
    >> is using their system. Is that user a guest or someone nearby?
    >>
    >> Now kindly go back to keep track of tumbleweeds you frickin fruitcake.

    >
    > Pretty simple. A few of our customers already have this configured for
    > their setup.
    >
    > You want free access at our hotel? Provide a credit card number. You
    > aren't charged. Your credit card will be authorized for $1, but not
    > charged.
    >
    > Or, you want access? Go to the front desk. Front desk gives you
    > username / password that's linked to you. (ie you're in room 33, your
    > username is room33, your password is your last name.)
    >
    > Plenty of ways to do it.
     
    Dan, Feb 23, 2009
    #2
    1. Advertising

  3. In message <A0vol.22965$>, Dan wrote:
    > Are the logs going to be used as evidence and who will foot the cost.
    > I'm not buying all that extra equipment just to store some pointless log
    > files.
    >
    > Evan Platt wrote:
    > > On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:15:36 -0500, richard <>
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > >> BULL FUCKING SHIT! (texas style!)
    > >>
    > >> Why do you think the proposal got dumped the last time?
    > >>
    > >> So Mr. Senator, like you've got a dozen computers in that fancy house
    > >> of yours and they're all connected via a wifi router right?
    > >> Like you're gonna play by your own rules? Yeah right.
    > >>
    > >> Now explain to me if you can sir, just exactly how are hotels, motels
    > >> and the like gonna keep records of every user on their system? Then,
    > >> how ya gonna know precisely which guest it is that used the system?
    > >>
    > >> As I live in motels, I know only too well many systems don't know who
    > >> is using their system. Is that user a guest or someone nearby?
    > >>
    > >> Now kindly go back to keep track of tumbleweeds you frickin fruitcake.

    > >
    > > Pretty simple. A few of our customers already have this configured for
    > > their setup.
    > >
    > > You want free access at our hotel? Provide a credit card number. You
    > > aren't charged. Your credit card will be authorized for $1, but not
    > > charged.
    > >
    > > Or, you want access? Go to the front desk. Front desk gives you
    > > username / password that's linked to you. (ie you're in room 33, your
    > > username is room33, your password is your last name.)
    > >


    ROTFLMAO! Gee...what imaginative security :)
    With any room number you just run a dictionary attack on the password.
    Lets start with Adams....

    > > Plenty of ways to do it.


    Sounds like plenty of ways to hack it too.

    Lucky for us theres several open AP's here to hook up to.


    --
    "I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people
    by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and
    sudden usurpations.... The means of defense against foreign danger historically
    have become the instruments of tyranny at home."
    -James Madison
     
    §ñühw¤£f, Feb 23, 2009
    #3
  4. Evan Platt

    Evan Platt Guest

    On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:42:20 -0500, richard <>
    wrote:

    >The point is, the law is a simple invasion of privacy.


    It is?

    >Hell, ISP's can already track everything you do.


    Only if they want to.


    >Then they want us to keep those records for two years? Is the
    >government gonna supply us with the space to do this with?


    Who's "Us"?

    Depending on what data they want stored, it won't take up a lot of
    space.

    --
    To reply via e-mail, remove The Obvious from my e-mail address.
     
    Evan Platt, Feb 23, 2009
    #4
    1. Advertising

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

It takes just 2 minutes to sign up (and it's free!). Just click the sign up button to choose a username and then you can ask your own questions on the forum.
Similar Threads
  1. awallwork at sign gmail dot com

    WinXP Home SP2 Logs on then Logs off

    awallwork at sign gmail dot com, Oct 13, 2004, in forum: Computer Support
    Replies:
    2
    Views:
    1,926
    Andrew
    Oct 16, 2004
  2. Giuen
    Replies:
    0
    Views:
    1,051
    Giuen
    Sep 12, 2008
  3. Replies:
    2
    Views:
    411
    Unbeliever
    Mar 9, 2009
  4. Dan
    Replies:
    1
    Views:
    449
    catchme
    Feb 23, 2009
  5. catchme
    Replies:
    1
    Views:
    483
    Bert Hyman
    Feb 23, 2009
Loading...

Share This Page