Re: Asus Eee Box hands on (mini desktop with Intel Atom CPU)

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by ~misfit~, Aug 31, 2008.

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    Somewhere on teh intarweb "PeeCee" typed:
    > "thingy" <> wrote in message
    > news:48b7755c$...
    >> PeeCee wrote:
    >>> Picked one up yesterday for a client to see if it fit's a particular
    >>> task.
    >>>
    >>> Overview:
    >>> http://event.asus.com/eeepc/microsites/eeebox/en/specifications.html
    >>>
    >>> What was in this particular box:
    >>> Eee Box itself (black), Laptop style power supply, screw on stand,
    >>> Vesa mounting plate (for back of LCD screen) SPDIF adaptor, WiFi
    >>> antenna, Manual, Warranty card, OS restore DVD, drivers CD.
    >>> This one had 1GB RAM, Windows XP Home and 80GB HD in two 40GB
    >>> partitions (Atom 1.6GHZ CPU).
    >>> There are other colours and RAM/HD configurations available
    >>> apparently. This site lists some of the variations
    >>> http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/2008/06/02/sneak-peek-asus-eee-b202-desktop-pc/
    >>>
    >>> Observations:
    >>> (Random and not necessarily deep and meaningfull)
    >>> Manual basically show's the I/O and controls, how to restore the
    >>> OS, all in several languages and that's it.
    >>> OS restore DVD and driver CD requires external USB DVD drive (now I
    >>> know why I bought that 5.25" USB drive case)
    >>>
    >>> Bios
    >>> Entered through the 'Del' key
    >>> Fairly plain, options for Express Gate screen delay (default 10 sec)
    >>> No obvious overclocking options.
    >>> No power restore options (ie Off/ previous state/ on)
    >>> Can power up on LAN and has a RTC Alarm start up.
    >>>
    >>> Starting Up:
    >>> The Express Gate (Linux?) "FUN" OS shows up for 10 seconds before
    >>> booting through to XP Home.
    >>> From Switch on to the Express Gate Web Browser home page fully
    >>> loaded took roughly 45 seconds (includes moving the pointer and
    >>> clicking on the Web Icon)
    >>> (This is with a WiFi LAN connection)
    >>> Flash seems to play ok as does YouTube video's
    >>> Express Gate also has a Photo Uploader to Flickr, IM client and
    >>> Skype none of which I've tried yet.
    >>>
    >>> First run of XP was pretty standard, Region, time zone, Keyboard and
    >>> Language, though as usual fine tinkering was required afterwards in
    >>> the Control Panel / Region tool.
    >>> In my case I ran it up without a wired LAN connection but with the
    >>> WiFi antenna connected.
    >>> Searching for Wireless points from the Wireless app in the System
    >>> Tray bottom right found my Wireless LAN & it's configuration (WPA2
    >>> PSK) & all I had to do was type in the pass phrase ... connected
    >>> (G, haven't got N yet)
    >>>
    >>> XP Service Pack2 out of the box.
    >>> No preinstalled Anti Virus
    >>> Acrobat Reader 8 installed.
    >>> Windows updates started downloading straight away as you would
    >>> expect with any standard XP install.
    >>> The Windows Install is bog standard apart from Asus update app's,
    >>> Instructions for reinstalling the "FUN" apps (aka Express Gate)
    >>> should they get corrupted and an entry for the Realtek chipset.
    >>>
    >>> Performance:
    >>> I've no numbers for you to pick over here, but it seemed to go OK
    >>> Though the task my client was looking at was not particularly
    >>> onerus I was curious to see how it handled HD video.
    >>> i.e. would it make a HTPC?
    >>> Well if you want 1080i & up no it won't do, sound goes OK but Video
    >>> is just a series of stills.
    >>> However bring it back to 720p and it runs just fine.
    >>> Now I find usefull as my TV is 720p and with it's small form factor
    >>> it's gonna be easy to hide in the other VCR's / Amps, and STB's
    >>> Compared to my MediaGate the Eee box is going to be easier to use
    >>> (more familialr interface)
    >>> I used the Fighter Pilot video here
    >>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/musicandvideo/hdvideo/contentshowcase.aspx
    >>> for HD content.
    >>>
    >>> For 'work' I loaded Open Office 2.4.1 (no problems) and created a
    >>> sample Impress (power point) slide show.
    >>> Again it just ran fine.
    >>> As did Internet Explorer, Spider Solitaire, Free Cell etc.
    >>>
    >>> OK it's not a Gamers PC but going on the average office PC I get to
    >>> 'fix' I can see these becominig a popular office PC, especially
    >>> with it mounted on the back of an LCD screen.
    >>> All neat and tidy, no worries with short USB Keyboard & Mouse leads.
    >>>
    >>> I must congratulate ASUS for putting 1 GB of RAM in, it makes all
    >>> the difference to an XP PC.
    >>> It shows the other major manufacturers up for the cheapskates they
    >>> are. (put 256MB in & charge them double for another 256MB of
    >>> 'official' RAM type cheapness)
    >>>
    >>> Case feels soldid enough, though the little flappy door on the
    >>> front is going to go in short order I would think.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> And did it do what the client wanted?
    >>> Yes, but that's another story, but I did measure the power usage at
    >>> 23 watts max.

    >>
    >> What external resolution did you get?
    >>
    >> regards
    >>
    >> Thing

    >
    > Further notes
    >
    > The 'glitch' I had appears to be the Intel Mobile Graphics Acelorator
    > keeping a high resolution even when reset in safe mode.
    > For some reason Windows (or the intel graphics driver) does not
    > automatically go back to the previous resolution if you don't confirm
    > it. The aim was to see what the TV did if I feed it 1080 to the PC input
    > ie would it show a scaled down image.... no such luck.
    > Booting into 'VGA' mode seems to clear it.
    >
    > Connected to the PC input of my LCD TV or a LCD monitor I get the
    > following resolutions
    > 640x480
    > 800x600
    > 1024x768
    > 1152x864
    > 1280x600/720/768/960/1024
    > 1400x1050
    > 1600x1200
    > 1856x1392
    > 1920x1080/1200/1440
    > 2048x1536
    > all in 8/16 or 32 bit colour, 60/75/85 refresh (except 2048x1536 no
    > 85hz) Plus 640x480 and 800x600 in 16 colour
    >
    > Pluging into my LCD TV via HDMI (used a DVI > HDMI cable from Jaycar)
    > The Eee box came straight up at the TV's native 1360x768 (actuall TV
    > spec is 1366x768)
    > Other resolutions available were
    > 720x576 (standard DVD)
    > 1600x900
    > 1920x1080


    Hi Paul.

    Any chance you can run CPU Mark 1.0 on that EEE box? It's hard to find now
    but I've just uploaded it at:

    <http://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01FZUNxa0RENlJFQlE9PQ>

    You'll just have to change the suffix from .lol to .exe and run it. It
    doesn't install, it just runs. I still use that old version as I have data
    for CPUs going back 10 years+ using that benchmark. I'd be really interested
    to know what the Atom 1.6GHz gets. (I guessed 120 marks, I could be
    over-estimating....)

    As a reference, a Pentium 200MMX gets 11.4, a PII 350 22.0, a Coppermine
    Celly 900MHz 57.6, a Tualatin celly 1.3GHz 107, an Athlon XP3200+ 208 and my
    current system (E7300 @ 3.6GHz) 506. It only tests one core.

    Cheers, and TIA if you can do it.
    --
    Shaun.

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    ~misfit~, Aug 31, 2008
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    Somewhere on teh intarweb "PeeCee" typed:
    > "~misfit~" <> wrote in message
    > news:48ba9911$...
    >> Hi Paul.
    >>
    >> Any chance you can run CPU Mark 1.0 on that EEE box? It's hard to
    >> find now but I've just uploaded it at:
    >>
    >> <http://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01FZUNxa0RENlJFQlE9PQ>
    >>
    >> You'll just have to change the suffix from .lol to .exe and run it.
    >> It doesn't install, it just runs. I still use that old version as I
    >> have data for CPUs going back 10 years+ using that benchmark. I'd be
    >> really interested to know what the Atom 1.6GHz gets. (I guessed 120
    >> marks, I could be over-estimating....)
    >>
    >> As a reference, a Pentium 200MMX gets 11.4, a PII 350 22.0, a
    >> Coppermine Celly 900MHz 57.6, a Tualatin celly 1.3GHz 107, an Athlon
    >> XP3200+ 208 and my current system (E7300 @ 3.6GHz) 506. It only
    >> tests one core. Cheers, and TIA if you can do it.

    >
    > Shaun
    >
    > Have go it, will run ron (later ron!)


    Awesome, thanks Paul.
    --
    Shaun.

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    Somewhere on teh intarweb "PeeCee" typed:
    > "~misfit~" <> wrote in message
    > news:48bb52d9$...
    >> Somewhere on teh intarweb "PeeCee" typed:
    >>> "~misfit~" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:48ba9911$...
    >>>> Hi Paul.
    >>>>
    >>>> Any chance you can run CPU Mark 1.0 on that EEE box? It's hard to
    >>>> find now but I've just uploaded it at:
    >>>>
    >>>> <http://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01FZUNxa0RENlJFQlE9PQ>
    >>>>
    >>>> You'll just have to change the suffix from .lol to .exe and run it.
    >>>> It doesn't install, it just runs. I still use that old version as I
    >>>> have data for CPUs going back 10 years+ using that benchmark. I'd
    >>>> be really interested to know what the Atom 1.6GHz gets. (I guessed
    >>>> 120 marks, I could be over-estimating....)
    >>>>
    >>>> As a reference, a Pentium 200MMX gets 11.4, a PII 350 22.0, a
    >>>> Coppermine Celly 900MHz 57.6, a Tualatin celly 1.3GHz 107, an
    >>>> Athlon XP3200+ 208 and my current system (E7300 @ 3.6GHz) 506. It
    >>>> only tests one core. Cheers, and TIA if you can do it.
    >>>
    >>> Have go it, will run ron (later ron!)

    >>
    >> Awesome, thanks Paul.

    >
    > Well you're not to wide of the mark....111
    >
    > Watched with Task Manager Performance page open, 1 CPU at about 75%
    > the other at about 25% = 50% showing on the Process tab.


    Cool, I thought that's about where it would be.

    (It doesn't actually have two cores, it uses "Hyper-threading Technology",
    same as the older single core P4s.)

    So, at 111 CPU Marks (ver 1.0) it's a bit faster than a Tualatin Celeron 1.3
    running on a 440BX chipset (107) and a bit slower than an AMD Applebred
    Duron 1.6GHz running on an AMD 760 chipset (118).

    Now consider that it's TDP [Thermal Design Power] is 4 Watts and it's
    obvious what a wonderful CPU this really is! (Typically the northbridge has
    a higher TDP than the CPU in Atom systems.) That Celeron's TDP was 35W and
    the Duron was 45W. The Atom is doing a bit less than 40W of work going by
    those CPUs for 4W. Amazing!

    Now consider that the RAM and NB (and probably HDD I/O) for the Atom is much
    faster than the old systems I've just compared it with and it's bloody
    brilliant.

    If I weren't a hardware junkie and mad overclocker I'd be getting me one of
    those. Makes me wonder why I still hang on to older hardware. (I still have
    those systems I benched a few years back. <g>)

    Cheers Paul, and thanks for running the benchmark.
    --
    Shaun.

    DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me
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    If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
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    ~misfit~, Sep 1, 2008
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