RAM Boosting programs --- are they worth it?

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by Hari Hari Mau, Nov 30, 2008.

  1. Hi, all !

    I have a quad-core machine, with 16GB of RAM.

    I use it for very heavy duty rendering jobs, requiring lots and lots
    and LOTS of memory.

    Even with the 16 GB of memory and XP 64-bits, there are times the
    thing goes to paged RAM.

    Currently I have 2 choices --- either change the mobo and upgrade the
    RAM to 32 GB, or getting one of those "RAM Boosting" programs to
    manage the RAM usage. Thus, my question ---

    Do those "RAM Boosting" programs work?

    If so, which one do you recommend?

    I welcome any of your suggestion, comment, opinion, criticism ....
    anything !

    Thank you all !
    Hari Hari Mau, Nov 30, 2008
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  2. Hari Hari Mau

    Randem Guest

    Ram boosting is just paging itself...

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    "Hari Hari Mau" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hi, all !
    >
    > I have a quad-core machine, with 16GB of RAM.
    >
    > I use it for very heavy duty rendering jobs, requiring lots and lots
    > and LOTS of memory.
    >
    > Even with the 16 GB of memory and XP 64-bits, there are times the
    > thing goes to paged RAM.
    >
    > Currently I have 2 choices --- either change the mobo and upgrade the
    > RAM to 32 GB, or getting one of those "RAM Boosting" programs to
    > manage the RAM usage. Thus, my question ---
    >
    > Do those "RAM Boosting" programs work?
    >
    > If so, which one do you recommend?
    >
    > I welcome any of your suggestion, comment, opinion, criticism ....
    > anything !
    >
    > Thank you all !
    Randem, Nov 30, 2008
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  3. On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:03:48 -0800 (PST), Hari Hari Mau
    <> wrote:

    > Hi, all !
    >
    > I have a quad-core machine, with 16GB of RAM.
    >
    > I use it for very heavy duty rendering jobs, requiring lots and lots
    > and LOTS of memory.
    >
    > Even with the 16 GB of memory and XP 64-bits, there are times the
    > thing goes to paged RAM.
    >
    > Currently I have 2 choices --- either change the mobo and upgrade the
    > RAM to 32 GB, or getting one of those "RAM Boosting" programs to
    > manage the RAM usage. Thus, my question ---
    >
    > Do those "RAM Boosting" programs work?



    No.

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    Ken Blake, MVP, Nov 30, 2008
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  4. Hari Hari Mau wrote:
    > I have a quad-core machine, with 16GB of RAM.
    >
    > I use it for very heavy duty rendering jobs, requiring lots and lots
    > and LOTS of memory.
    >
    > Even with the 16 GB of memory and XP 64-bits, there are times the
    > thing goes to paged RAM.
    >
    > Currently I have 2 choices --- either change the mobo and upgrade
    > the RAM to 32 GB, or getting one of those "RAM Boosting" programs to
    > manage the RAM usage. Thus, my question ---
    >
    > Do those "RAM Boosting" programs work?
    >
    > If so, which one do you recommend?
    >
    > I welcome any of your suggestion, comment, opinion, criticism ....
    > anything !


    No.
    Things will likely always page - just the way things are handled.
    How often do you actually utilize 16GB of your memory? ;-)

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    Shenan Stanley, Nov 30, 2008
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  5. Hari Hari Mau

    Buffalo Guest

    Hari Hari Mau wrote:
    > Hi, all !
    >
    > I have a quad-core machine, with 16GB of RAM.
    >
    > I use it for very heavy duty rendering jobs, requiring lots and lots
    > and LOTS of memory.
    >
    > Even with the 16 GB of memory and XP 64-bits, there are times the
    > thing goes to paged RAM.
    >
    > Currently I have 2 choices --- either change the mobo and upgrade the
    > RAM to 32 GB, or getting one of those "RAM Boosting" programs to
    > manage the RAM usage. Thus, my question ---
    >
    > Do those "RAM Boosting" programs work?
    >
    > If so, which one do you recommend?
    >
    > I welcome any of your suggestion, comment, opinion, criticism ....
    > anything !
    >
    > Thank you all !



    Try one and find out and report back.
    Most say they are worthless and actually use more ram. (ie:snakeoil)
    Let us hear how it works out.
    Buffalo, Nov 30, 2008
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  6. Hari Hari Mau

    Buffalo Guest

    Hari Hari Mau wrote:
    > Hi, all !
    >
    > I have a quad-core machine, with 16GB of RAM.
    >
    > I use it for very heavy duty rendering jobs, requiring lots and lots
    > and LOTS of memory.
    >
    > Even with the 16 GB of memory and XP 64-bits, there are times the
    > thing goes to paged RAM.
    >
    > Currently I have 2 choices --- either change the mobo and upgrade the
    > RAM to 32 GB, or getting one of those "RAM Boosting" programs to
    > manage the RAM usage. Thus, my question ---
    >
    > Do those "RAM Boosting" programs work?
    >
    > If so, which one do you recommend?
    >
    > I welcome any of your suggestion, comment, opinion, criticism ....
    > anything !
    >
    > Thank you all !


    Do you notice a slow down when it uses the page file, or are you just
    relying on the fact that the page file is being used?
    The page file will be used many times and it doesn't mean that all your
    physical ram is used up.
    Buffalo, Nov 30, 2008
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  7. On Nov 29, 6:45 pm, "Shenan Stanley" <> wrote:
    > Hari Hari Mau wrote:
    > > I have a quad-core machine, with 16GB of RAM.

    >
    > > I use it for very heavy duty rendering jobs, requiring lots and lots
    > > and LOTS of memory.

    >
    > > Even with the 16 GB of memory and XP 64-bits, there are times the
    > > thing goes to paged RAM.

    >
    > > Currently I have 2 choices --- either change the mobo and upgrade
    > > the RAM to 32 GB, or getting one of those "RAM Boosting" programs to
    > > manage the RAM usage. Thus, my question ---

    >
    > > Do those "RAM Boosting" programs work?

    >
    > > If so, which one do you recommend?

    >
    > > I welcome any of your suggestion, comment, opinion, criticism ....
    > > anything !

    >
    > No.
    > Things will likely always page - just the way things are handled.
    > How often do you actually utilize 16GB of your memory? ;-)



    According to Task Manager, all of it plus another 24 GB of paged. As I
    have 4 HD in the comp, and set up page files in all the 4 HDs, total
    paged is about 38GB and 24GB of it has been "committed".

    What I am currently doing is rendering animation, very cpu and mem
    intensive job, but still it shouldn't have used so much RAM. Since I
    do not know how to track memory leakage or whatnots, I don't actually
    know why the thing is using up so much memory.

    That is why I am thinking of changing a mobo that can support 32GB of
    RAM.

    But before I do that, I like to know if any of those RAM Boosting
    utilities work.

    What I mean is, if there's some mem leakage, perhaps (just perhaps !)
    the RAM Boosting utility could recover those RAM by "cleaning up"
    those memories that are not being used and then giving it back to the
    OS so my machine won't have to be paged like mad.

    As it is now, the HD light is constantly on. All 4 of the HD are like
    churning and cranking.

    I have read in other places that those RAM Boosting programs are junk.
    My purpose of posting the messages here is, maybe someone have had
    experiences on those RAM Boosting programs and maybe they can tell me
    more about mem leaks and how to recover those RAM memory.

    Hoping to hear more opinion soon !

    Thank you all !!!




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    Hari Hari Mau, Nov 30, 2008
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  8. On Nov 29, 6:55 pm, "Buffalo" <> wrote:
    > Hari Hari Mau wrote:
    > > Hi, all !

    >
    > > I have a quad-core machine, with 16GB of RAM.

    >
    > > I use it for very heavy duty rendering jobs, requiring lots and lots
    > > and LOTS of memory.

    >
    > > Even with the 16 GB of memory and XP 64-bits, there are times the
    > > thing goes to paged RAM.

    >
    > > Currently I have 2 choices --- either change the mobo and upgrade the
    > > RAM to 32 GB, or getting one of those "RAM Boosting" programs to
    > > manage the RAM usage. Thus, my question ---

    >
    > > Do those "RAM Boosting" programs work?

    >
    > > If so, which one do you recommend?

    >
    > > I welcome any of your suggestion, comment, opinion, criticism ....
    > > anything !

    >
    > > Thank you all !

    >
    > Do you notice a slow down when it uses the page file, or are you just
    > relying on the fact that the page file is being used?
    > The page file will be used many times and it doesn't mean that all your
    > physical ram is used up.



    Hmm.... since it's a quad-core machine, it's kinda hard to "notice
    slow down".

    The thing, as right now is ... when I start the rendering job, it goes
    smoothly, and after like 20 minutes or so, all 4 of my HD starts to
    hum.

    I've tested running the Task Manager, before I start rendering.

    From beginning --- everything runs on the RAM. Then the "committed"
    mem increases, until it flows over into the page, and the page thing
    grows and grow. That's the time I start to hear my HD hum, and the HD
    light is on constantly.
    Hari Hari Mau, Nov 30, 2008
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  9. Hari Hari Mau

    Randem Guest

    You seem to have a memory leak and NO ram utility will clean up your apps
    mess. It would have no idea that you don't really need the memory. You have
    to clean up your app with tracing and logging to find out where it leaks.
    You may also be able to use a profiler to help.

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    "Hari Hari Mau" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    On Nov 29, 6:55 pm, "Buffalo" <> wrote:
    > Hari Hari Mau wrote:
    > > Hi, all !

    >
    > > I have a quad-core machine, with 16GB of RAM.

    >
    > > I use it for very heavy duty rendering jobs, requiring lots and lots
    > > and LOTS of memory.

    >
    > > Even with the 16 GB of memory and XP 64-bits, there are times the
    > > thing goes to paged RAM.

    >
    > > Currently I have 2 choices --- either change the mobo and upgrade the
    > > RAM to 32 GB, or getting one of those "RAM Boosting" programs to
    > > manage the RAM usage. Thus, my question ---

    >
    > > Do those "RAM Boosting" programs work?

    >
    > > If so, which one do you recommend?

    >
    > > I welcome any of your suggestion, comment, opinion, criticism ....
    > > anything !

    >
    > > Thank you all !

    >
    > Do you notice a slow down when it uses the page file, or are you just
    > relying on the fact that the page file is being used?
    > The page file will be used many times and it doesn't mean that all your
    > physical ram is used up.



    Hmm.... since it's a quad-core machine, it's kinda hard to "notice
    slow down".

    The thing, as right now is ... when I start the rendering job, it goes
    smoothly, and after like 20 minutes or so, all 4 of my HD starts to
    hum.

    I've tested running the Task Manager, before I start rendering.

    From beginning --- everything runs on the RAM. Then the "committed"
    mem increases, until it flows over into the page, and the page thing
    grows and grow. That's the time I start to hear my HD hum, and the HD
    light is on constantly.
    Randem, Nov 30, 2008
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  10. Hari Hari Mau

    chuckcar Guest

    Hari Hari Mau <> wrote in
    news::

    > Hi, all !
    >
    > I have a quad-core machine, with 16GB of RAM.
    >
    > I use it for very heavy duty rendering jobs, requiring lots and lots
    > and LOTS of memory.
    >
    > Even with the 16 GB of memory and XP 64-bits, there are times the
    > thing goes to paged RAM.
    >
    > Currently I have 2 choices --- either change the mobo and upgrade the
    > RAM to 32 GB, or getting one of those "RAM Boosting" programs to
    > manage the RAM usage. Thus, my question ---
    >
    > Do those "RAM Boosting" programs work?
    >
    > If so, which one do you recommend?
    >

    None. For two reasons. There are two ways you can "increase" ram without
    actually spending the couple of bucks to actually *do* it.

    1. Compression in situ. This involves compressing all data while it is in
    RAM thereby giving you more space, but at a substantial speed penalty.

    2. Swapping to the hard drive. Windows does this anyways if you run out of
    ram, so what you're doing is creating a second page file fighting with
    windows. This makes it *really* slow. In addition to this stupidity, the
    hard drive - any hard drive - is over 1000x slower than any RAM. This is
    why when the computer slows down the hard drive light is always on, or
    rather the other way around.

    If you need a faster computer with more RAM, upgrade it. The "solution"
    you suggest only worked when the hard drives were close in speed to the
    speed of the processors. That's about 1980 or earlier. The original IBM PC
    had a clock speed of 4.77 Mhz. Hard drive speeds (random access time) were
    of the order of 80ms or slower. This leads to a ratio of 1:381,600 at
    worst. In present computers, The speed is 3 Ghz (single processor/single
    core to give a fair comparision) Hard drives still only are about 5ms due
    to hardware limitations - motors only move so fast. That's a ration of
    1:15,000,000,000. Now a read of a byte of ram takes pretty well the same
    number of clock cycles - 4 with a couple more waiting depending on how
    fast the ram is. Now you see the loss you get?


    Try shutting down everything else *but* the program you're working on,
    including anything in startup and see if that helps first.

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    chuckcar, Nov 30, 2008
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  11. Thank you for your suggestion. I've looked up on the mem leakage and
    Microsoft supposed to have a program called "Perfmon.exe" that
    supposed to be able to help trace which program is leaking memory.

    That Perfmon.exe program is supposed to be downloadable ... however I
    just can't find it !

    Can anyone point out where I can obtain such a program, please?

    Don't know why there is no "garbage collection" ability built in in
    XP. If so, all the mem leakage problems would be a piece of cake, for
    the OS itself can free those mem that are no longer being use. ....
    but I digress ...



    On Nov 29, 7:29 pm, "Randem" <> wrote:
    > You seem to have a memory leak and NO ram utility will clean up your apps
    > mess. It would have no idea that you don't really need the memory. You have
    > to clean up your app with tracing and logging to find out where it leaks.
    > You may also be able to use a profiler to help.
    >
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    > "Hari Hari Mau" <> wrote in messagenews:...
    > On Nov 29, 6:55 pm, "Buffalo" <> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > > Hari Hari Mau wrote:
    > > > Hi, all !

    >
    > > > I have a quad-core machine, with 16GB of RAM.

    >
    > > > I use it for very heavy duty rendering jobs, requiring lots and lots
    > > > and LOTS of memory.

    >
    > > > Even with the 16 GB of memory and XP 64-bits, there are times the
    > > > thing goes to paged RAM.

    >
    > > > Currently I have 2 choices --- either change the mobo and upgrade the
    > > > RAM to 32 GB, or getting one of those "RAM Boosting" programs to
    > > > manage the RAM usage. Thus, my question ---

    >
    > > > Do those "RAM Boosting" programs work?

    >
    > > > If so, which one do you recommend?

    >
    > > > I welcome any of your suggestion, comment, opinion, criticism ....
    > > > anything !

    >
    > > > Thank you all !

    >
    > > Do you notice a slow down when it uses the page file, or are you just
    > > relying on the fact that the page file is being used?
    > > The page file will be used many times and it doesn't mean that all your
    > > physical ram is used up.

    >
    > Hmm.... since it's a quad-core machine, it's kinda hard to "notice
    > slow down".
    >
    > The thing, as right now is ... when I start the rendering job, it goes
    > smoothly, and after like 20 minutes or so, all 4 of my HD starts to
    > hum.
    >
    > I've tested running the Task Manager, before I start rendering.
    >
    > From beginning --- everything runs on the RAM. Then the "committed"
    > mem increases, until it flows over into the page, and the page thing
    > grows and grow. That's the time I start to hear my HD hum, and the HD
    > light is on constantly.
    Hari Hari Mau, Nov 30, 2008
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  12. Hari Hari Mau

    Guest

    Hari Hari Mau <> wrote:

    >What I am currently doing is rendering animation, very cpu and mem
    >intensive job, but still it shouldn't have used so much RAM. Since I
    >do not know how to track memory leakage or whatnots, I don't actually
    >know why the thing is using up so much memory.



    Start | Run <type in>
    perfmon.msc
    <enter>

    This is a performance graph used to find bottlenecks. It's not an easy
    program to use, so you will need to read the help file (Hit F1) or you
    will get a help file on how to use MMC.

    Very quick start would be to Hit the + (or ADD) icon, then read all
    the counters from each performance object.

    But set up correctly you can find memory leaks, hogs, or those in need
    of more.
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    , Nov 30, 2008
    #12
  13. On Nov 29, 8:40 pm, wrote:
    >  Hari Hari Mau <> wrote:
    >
    > >What I am currently doing is rendering animation, very cpu and mem
    > >intensive job, but still it shouldn't have used so much RAM. Since I
    > >do not know how to track memory leakage or whatnots, I don't actually
    > >know why the thing is using up so much memory.

    >
    > Start | Run <type in>
    > perfmon.msc
    > <enter>
    >
    > This is a performance graph used to find bottlenecks. It's not an easy
    > program to use, so you will need to read the help file (Hit F1) or you
    > will get a help file on how to use MMC.
    >
    > Very quick start would be to Hit the + (or ADD) icon, then read all
    > the counters from each performance object.
    >
    > But set up correctly you can find memory leaks, hogs, or those in need
    > of more.
    > --
    >
    > Find and mayhaps repair a stuck pixelhttp://tinyurl.com/6nro6h


    Many thanks !!!
    Hari Hari Mau, Nov 30, 2008
    #13
  14. Hari Hari Mau

    Guest

    Hari Hari Mau <> wrote:

    >That Perfmon.exe program is supposed to be downloadable ... however I
    >just can't find it !


    >Can anyone point out where I can obtain such a program, please?


    You can run Perfmon.msc, it's found in the System32 directory.
    It's Icon is located in the Administrative Tools.
    You might need Admin access.

    And it's Perfmon.MSC not Perfmon.EXE
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    #14
  15. Hari Hari Mau

    Buffalo Guest

    PeeCee wrote:
    > "Hari Hari Mau" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > Thank you for your suggestion. I've looked up on the mem leakage and
    > Microsoft supposed to have a program called "Perfmon.exe" that
    > supposed to be able to help trace which program is leaking memory.
    >
    > That Perfmon.exe program is supposed to be downloadable ... however I
    > just can't find it !


    Try perfmon.msc instead of perfmon.exe
    Buffalo, Nov 30, 2008
    #15
  16. Hari Hari Mau

    Gerry Guest

    Does the rendering programme use an Undo feature like you see in photo
    editing programmes? What is the name of the programme you are using?


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    Hari Hari Mau wrote:
    > Thank you for your suggestion. I've looked up on the mem leakage and
    > Microsoft supposed to have a program called "Perfmon.exe" that
    > supposed to be able to help trace which program is leaking memory.
    >
    > That Perfmon.exe program is supposed to be downloadable ... however I
    > just can't find it !
    >
    > Can anyone point out where I can obtain such a program, please?
    >
    > Don't know why there is no "garbage collection" ability built in in
    > XP. If so, all the mem leakage problems would be a piece of cake, for
    > the OS itself can free those mem that are no longer being use. ....
    > but I digress ...
    >
    >
    >
    > On Nov 29, 7:29 pm, "Randem" <> wrote:
    >> You seem to have a memory leak and NO ram utility will clean up your
    >> apps
    >> mess. It would have no idea that you don't really need the memory.
    >> You have
    >> to clean up your app with tracing and logging to find out where it
    >> leaks.
    >> You may also be able to use a profiler to help.
    >>
    >> --
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    >> Your Installation Specialist
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    >> Generatorhttp://www.randem.com/innoscript.htmlhttp://www.rndem.com/installerproblems.htmlhttp://www.randem.com/vistainstalls.htmlhttp://www.financialtrainingservices.org
    >>
    >> "Hari Hari Mau" <> wrote in
    >> messagenews:...
    >> On Nov 29, 6:55 pm, "Buffalo" <> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>> Hari Hari Mau wrote:
    >>>> Hi, all !

    >>
    >>>> I have a quad-core machine, with 16GB of RAM.

    >>
    >>>> I use it for very heavy duty rendering jobs, requiring lots and
    >>>> lots and LOTS of memory.

    >>
    >>>> Even with the 16 GB of memory and XP 64-bits, there are times the
    >>>> thing goes to paged RAM.

    >>
    >>>> Currently I have 2 choices --- either change the mobo and upgrade
    >>>> the RAM to 32 GB, or getting one of those "RAM Boosting" programs
    >>>> to manage the RAM usage. Thus, my question ---

    >>
    >>>> Do those "RAM Boosting" programs work?

    >>
    >>>> If so, which one do you recommend?

    >>
    >>>> I welcome any of your suggestion, comment, opinion, criticism ....
    >>>> anything !

    >>
    >>>> Thank you all !

    >>
    >>> Do you notice a slow down when it uses the page file, or are you
    >>> just relying on the fact that the page file is being used?
    >>> The page file will be used many times and it doesn't mean that all
    >>> your physical ram is used up.

    >>
    >> Hmm.... since it's a quad-core machine, it's kinda hard to "notice
    >> slow down".
    >>
    >> The thing, as right now is ... when I start the rendering job, it
    >> goes
    >> smoothly, and after like 20 minutes or so, all 4 of my HD starts to
    >> hum.
    >>
    >> I've tested running the Task Manager, before I start rendering.
    >>
    >> From beginning --- everything runs on the RAM. Then the "committed"
    >> mem increases, until it flows over into the page, and the page thing
    >> grows and grow. That's the time I start to hear my HD hum, and the HD
    >> light is on constantly.
    Gerry, Nov 30, 2008
    #16
  17. Hari Hari Mau

    db.·.. > Guest

    those programs are
    designed for machines
    with low resources.



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    "Hari Hari Mau" <> wrote in message news:...
    > Hi, all !
    >
    > I have a quad-core machine, with 16GB of RAM.
    >
    > I use it for very heavy duty rendering jobs, requiring lots and lots
    > and LOTS of memory.
    >
    > Even with the 16 GB of memory and XP 64-bits, there are times the
    > thing goes to paged RAM.
    >
    > Currently I have 2 choices --- either change the mobo and upgrade the
    > RAM to 32 GB, or getting one of those "RAM Boosting" programs to
    > manage the RAM usage. Thus, my question ---
    >
    > Do those "RAM Boosting" programs work?
    >
    > If so, which one do you recommend?
    >
    > I welcome any of your suggestion, comment, opinion, criticism ....
    > anything !
    >
    > Thank you all !
    db.·.. >, Nov 30, 2008
    #17
  18. db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:
    > those programs are
    > designed for machines
    > with low resources.
    >
    >
    >



    No, those programs are designed for gullible, technically ignorant
    people. Like registry cleaners, they're pure snake oil.


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    Bruce Chambers, Dec 2, 2008
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  19. Hari Hari Mau

    db.·.. > Guest

    not really.

    they serve and fulfill
    two specific purposes.

    one, they are utilities and
    tools towards a more efficient
    use of resources, and

    two, they are utilities that
    incite the ineffective use of
    resources of whining geeks.
    --

    db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
    DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
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    "Bruce Chambers" <3t> wrote in message news:%...
    > db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:
    >> those programs are
    >> designed for machines
    >> with low resources.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    > No, those programs are designed for gullible, technically ignorant people. Like registry cleaners, they're pure snake oil.
    >
    >
    > --
    >
    > Bruce Chambers
    >
    > Help us help you:
    > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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    > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
    >
    > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
    >
    > Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
    >
    > The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers.
    > ~ Denis Diderot
    db.·.. >, Dec 2, 2008
    #19
  20. Hari Hari Mau

    Cork Soaker Guest

    Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
    > On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:03:48 -0800 (PST), Hari Hari Mau
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >> Hi, all !
    >>
    >> I have a quad-core machine, with 16GB of RAM.
    >>
    >> I use it for very heavy duty rendering jobs, requiring lots and lots
    >> and LOTS of memory.
    >>
    >> Even with the 16 GB of memory and XP 64-bits, there are times the
    >> thing goes to paged RAM.
    >>
    >> Currently I have 2 choices --- either change the mobo and upgrade the
    >> RAM to 32 GB, or getting one of those "RAM Boosting" programs to
    >> manage the RAM usage. Thus, my question ---
    >>
    >> Do those "RAM Boosting" programs work?

    >
    >
    > No.
    >



    Windows will page no matter how much RAM you have. Are you talking
    about a specific program?
    Cork Soaker, Dec 2, 2008
    #20
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