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Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by Peter, Jul 20, 2005.

  1. Peter

    Peter Guest

    How many people make a living in this NG from photography? What do you
    specialise in?
    To me it would be something that I would love doing especially nature type
    photos but I just wonder if it would be viable to just specialise in nature
    or the like to make a living without living on tin food.
    I am a complete amateur now but I am keen to learn and give it a go someday
    you only live once.
    Thanks...
    Peter, Jul 20, 2005
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  2. Peter wrote:
    > How many people make a living in this NG from photography? What do you
    > specialise in?
    > To me it would be something that I would love doing especially nature type
    > photos but I just wonder if it would be viable to just specialise in nature
    > or the like to make a living without living on tin food.
    > I am a complete amateur now but I am keen to learn and give it a go someday
    > you only live once.
    > Thanks...
    >
    >
    >

    Ask yourself if you would buy the pictures you intend to take.
    95% of people who want to start as a paid photographer, don't have any
    idea if what they will photograph is actually salable. There's a wedding
    photographer on every street corner just waiting to undercut your price.
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions and believe me, hell is a
    much friendlier place than the chief Editor's office as he picks apart
    flaws in your pictures you never knew were there.

    Some years back I was fascinated by pelicans. I probably have the
    largest collection of pelicans in flight in my city now. Last month I
    sold a print. Two month's earlier I sold one too. From time to time I
    sell one on Ebay. The lens I bought to capture these birds in flight
    cost $12,000. I haven't used it for 9 months.

    At the rate I'm selling the pictures, my great, great grandson might get
    to recover the cost of the lens... And then there's the cameras to work
    on. As if DSLRs of today will be worth anything in 2042.

    Unless you invest in your own printing business and start making
    calendars, postcards and coffee table books, you are unlikely to feed
    yourself.

    --
    Douglas,
    Zero care factor for negative responses
    from anonymous posters.
    Foto Ryadia's Studio, Jul 20, 2005
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  3. Peter

    Steve Kramer Guest

    Peter wrote:
    >
    > How many people make a living in this NG from photography? What do you
    > specialise in?


    Travel, nature, and travel related advertising photography (hotel and
    resort brochures) for national and international magazines and
    calendars.
    http://www.photoenvisions.com/
    I also write a monthly magazine column about photography,
    http://www.gmorning.info/photo_vision.htm
    and run classes to teach our tourists how to use the other three buttons
    on their cameras with ond-day photo classes and photo safaris.
    http://www.photoenvisions.com/Advert.htm
    Of course this last part will only work well for you if you live in a
    tourist rich location. Fortunately, northern Thailand is a
    photographer's paradise, and I live at the last stop of the rail line
    running north. Beyond this there be dragons!

    Steve Kramer
    "PhotoEnvisions" Freelance Photography
    Chiang Mai, Thailand
    http://www.photoenvisions.com

    --
    "The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons, but in seeing
    with new eyes." - Marcel Proust
    Steve Kramer, Jul 20, 2005
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  4. Peter

    Bill Hilton Guest

    >Peter writes ...
    >
    >How many people make a living in this NG from photography?


    Not many, I'd wager.

    >I just wonder if it would be viable to just specialise in nature
    >or the like to make a living without living on tin food.


    "John Shaw's Business of Nature Photography" is a good book that will
    give you a feel for the 'business' side of it. Most of the really
    prosperous nature photographers I know personally are making much of
    their money either from guiding tours and teaching classes or
    workshops, or writing/selling books or occasionally from stock sales.
    A handful make most of their money from selling prints, typically if
    they own one or more galleries. One guy told me he made less than 5%
    of his income from selling images to magazines, for example, but finds
    that leading photo tours to places he would visit on his own anyway is
    wildly profitable.

    One problem with making a good living from nature photography is that
    so many affluent amateurs do it for fun at a high level that there's a
    tremendous amount of great images floating around. But if you have
    enough talent and drive you can be successful at it.

    Bill
    Bill Hilton, Jul 20, 2005
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  5. Peter

    CFB Guest

    In article <21oDe.53468$>,
    "Peter" <.> wrote:

    > How many people make a living in this NG from photography? What do you
    > specialise in?
    > To me it would be something that I would love doing especially nature type
    > photos but I just wonder if it would be viable to just specialise in nature
    > or the like to make a living without living on tin food.
    > I am a complete amateur now but I am keen to learn and give it a go someday
    > you only live once.
    > Thanks...


    Being an art photographer is bad for the belly but good for the soul.

    Nature photograph is an over saturated genre and might be the very
    reason you love the "idea" of nature photography. Just do what you like.
    That's how you are more likely to make wonderful photographs. If you
    specialize you close yourself off to millions of opportunities. One of
    which might lead to great art or more money. So it all depends on what
    kind of photographer you want to be. And it all depends on your
    experience right now.

    I don't make a living from my art. If I had to take photos to make money
    those photos would be made to sell. And that is only pandering to the
    latest trend. If you follow you are not original. You might make money,
    but that's it.

    If you loved what you are doing, tin food would is delicious.

    Peace.

    --

    http://home.nc.rr.com/christianbonanno/
    CFB, Jul 20, 2005
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  6. Peter

    Steve Kramer Guest

    Bill Hilton wrote:
    >
    > >Peter writes ...
    > >
    > >How many people make a living in this NG from photography?

    >
    > Not many, I'd wager.
    >
    > >I just wonder if it would be viable to just specialise in nature
    > >or the like to make a living without living on tin food.

    >
    > "John Shaw's Business of Nature Photography" is a good book that will
    > give you a feel for the 'business' side of it. Most of the really
    > prosperous nature photographers I know personally are making much of
    > their money either from guiding tours and teaching classes or
    > workshops, or writing/selling books or occasionally from stock sales.
    > A handful make most of their money from selling prints, typically if
    > they own one or more galleries. One guy told me he made less than 5%
    > of his income from selling images to magazines, for example, but finds
    > that leading photo tours to places he would visit on his own anyway is
    > wildly profitable.


    I'll second that. Even selling a dozen photos (to mags and businesses)
    per month on average, and having at least one magazine cover per month,
    my money is still coming from teaching and photo safaris.

    Steve Kramer
    "PhotoEnvisions" Freelance Photography
    Chiang Mai, Thailand
    http://www.photoenvisions.com
    --
    "The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons, but in seeing
    with new eyes." - Marcel Proust
    Steve Kramer, Jul 21, 2005
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  7. Peter

    JohnR66 Guest

    "Peter" <.> wrote in message
    news:21oDe.53468$...
    > How many people make a living in this NG from photography? What do you
    > specialise in?
    > To me it would be something that I would love doing especially nature type
    > photos but I just wonder if it would be viable to just specialise in
    > nature
    > or the like to make a living without living on tin food.
    > I am a complete amateur now but I am keen to learn and give it a go
    > someday
    > you only live once.
    > Thanks...
    >
    >

    The closest I've come was using my camera to copy my own artwork, making
    prints, signing them and selling them. Mostly on ebay. I've stopped doing
    this practice for two reasons: Art is a hard sell. Out of 12 pieces, I
    profited no better than $50-60 total. Well, actually, I'm in the hole. I
    spent $500 having a set of offset prints made. I gave some away as gifts and
    sold some, but the bulk sits in a cardboad box somewhere. I don't even
    bother with them because I found something unrelated that sells well (second
    reason).

    I'll keep the photography as a hobby.

    John
    JohnR66, Jul 21, 2005
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