Question about traffic tickets

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by rogacasa@gmail.com, Jun 18, 2006.

  1. Guest

    Hi. The other day, I was stopped in my car by the police and given
    what's called a "civil infraction" for having a burned out passenger
    side brake light. I have 14 days to get it fixed and to go to the
    station to provide proof that it is fixed. As I understand it, the
    civil infraction will then be closed.

    I have a few questions:

    Where are civil infractions recorded?

    How long do they stay on the record?

    Does this get reported to my car insurance provider?

    Will it make my insurance go up?


    Thanks,
    Roger Carlson
    , Jun 18, 2006
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  2. Toolman Tim Guest

    In news:,
    spewed forth:
    > Hi. The other day, I was stopped in my car by the police and given
    > what's called a "civil infraction" for having a burned out passenger
    > side brake light. I have 14 days to get it fixed and to go to the
    > station to provide proof that it is fixed. As I understand it, the
    > civil infraction will then be closed.
    >
    > I have a few questions:
    >
    > Where are civil infractions recorded?


    Who cares?

    > How long do they stay on the record?


    They don't, unless you don't get it fixed. Then you have a problem.

    > Does this get reported to my car insurance provider?


    No - why would they? It's NOT a ticket.

    > Will it make my insurance go up?


    Only if it doesn't get taken care of and they come looking for you...


    Of course, my answers only apply where I live: YMMV.

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    Toolman Tim, Jun 18, 2006
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  3. Plato Guest

    wrote:
    >
    > Hi. The other day, I was stopped in my car by the police and given
    > what's called a "civil infraction" for having a burned out passenger
    > side brake light. I have 14 days to get it fixed and to go to the
    > station to provide proof that it is fixed. As I understand it, the
    > civil infraction will then be closed.
    > I have a few questions:
    > Where are civil infractions recorded?
    > How long do they stay on the record?
    > Does this get reported to my car insurance provider?


    Replace your brake light, go to the station, all done.


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    Plato, Jun 18, 2006
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  4. Guest

    quipped:

    >Hi. The other day, I was stopped in my car by the police and given
    >what's called a "civil infraction" for having a burned out passenger
    >side brake light. I have 14 days to get it fixed and to go to the
    >station to provide proof that it is fixed. As I understand it, the
    >civil infraction will then be closed.
    >
    >I have a few questions:
    >
    >Where are civil infractions recorded?


    ...they're not, unless you don't get the car fixed. Then it's recorded
    as a non-moving violation. Like a defective equipment violation on
    your record.

    >
    >How long do they stay on the record?


    ...*if* you don't comply and it gets on your record, 3-5 years
    ,depending on your states motor vehicle code.

    >
    >Does this get reported to my car insurance provider?


    ...only if you don't get it fixed.

    >
    >Will it make my insurance go up?


    ...depends on your insurance company. Some insurance companies
    could care less about non-moving violations. Others take anything
    negative on your driving record as a ding and excuse to raise your
    rates.

    Just get the brake light fixed and provide proof. If you do that, no
    one but you will ever know that you were ever stopped.




    >
    >
    >Thanks,
    >Roger Carlson
    , Jun 18, 2006
    #4
  5. Plato Guest

    I took my daughters car for inspection at a state facility. It failed
    for NO break lights whatsoever. They gave me a 48 hour "pass" to get it
    fixed. And yes, it came with a 48 hour inspection sticker. I must admit
    they were right, as one "should" have brake lights working.
    Plato, Jun 18, 2006
    #5
  6. Mike Easter Guest

    wrote:
    > The other day, I was stopped in my car by the police and given
    > what's called a "civil infraction" for having a burned out passenger
    > side brake light.


    We call that a 'fixit ticket'.

    > I have 14 days to get it fixed and to go to the
    > station to provide proof that it is fixed.


    Yep.

    > As I understand it, the
    > civil infraction will then be closed.


    That's the way it is around here. It goes away.

    > I have a few questions:
    >
    > Where are civil infractions recorded?


    You didn't even say what planet you are on - or country - or state - or
    city - or county - or what jurisdiction was the officer who gave you the
    ticket -- and you want to know where it is recorded? Doh.

    It would become recorded in the jurisdictional entity of the officer who
    issued the ticket. Look at your ticket. If you fail to remedy and
    prove you have remedied the violation, then you have broken a law and
    then there are consequences ranging from having to mail in a fine to
    having to appear before a judge for the violation. It is much better to
    fix the problem and show it to a cop at a local cop facility. Around
    here, the local police have little storefront operations just for such
    issues.

    > How long do they stay on the record?


    Usually if you keep it off the record it isn't on the record.

    > Does this get reported to my car insurance provider?


    Usually if you let a 'forgiveable' infraction turn into a real
    violation, then it gets reported to the state which issues your DL.
    Some states only keep track of moving violations like speeding. Not
    mechanicals.

    > Will it make my insurance go up?


    Your insco has its own rules about good driver discounts and what you
    have to do to lose the discount. Typically a single ticket for a
    mechanical violation even one which turned into a real ticket because it
    was ignored instead of going away because it was remedied -- isn't going
    to have an impact on your ins rates.

    The best thing to do is to fix the light and get the mechanical
    violation to just go away. If you ignore something like that and its
    derivatives thoroughly enough, you can end up with a warrant for your
    arrest being issued.


    --
    Mike Easter
    Mike Easter, Jun 18, 2006
    #6
  7. Plato wrote:

    > I took my daughters car for inspection at a state facility. It failed
    > for NO break lights whatsoever.


    That's why they were "break lights".

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  8. wrote:
    > quipped:
    >
    >>Hi. The other day, I was stopped in my car by the police and given
    >>what's called a "civil infraction" for having a burned out passenger
    >>side brake light. I have 14 days to get it fixed and to go to the
    >>station to provide proof that it is fixed. As I understand it, the
    >>civil infraction will then be closed.
    >>
    >>I have a few questions:
    >>
    >>Where are civil infractions recorded?

    >
    > ..they're not, unless you don't get the car fixed. Then it's recorded
    > as a non-moving violation. Like a defective equipment violation on
    > your record.
    >
    >>
    >>How long do they stay on the record?

    >
    > ..*if* you don't comply and it gets on your record, 3-5 years
    > ,depending on your states motor vehicle code.
    >
    >>
    >>Does this get reported to my car insurance provider?

    >
    > ..only if you don't get it fixed.
    >
    >>
    >>Will it make my insurance go up?

    >
    > ..depends on your insurance company. Some insurance companies could
    > care less about non-moving violations. Others take anything


    Seems they might, as insurers, be interested in *safety* violations --
    brake lights aren't the same as, say, a noisy muffler.


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  9. Mike Easter wrote:
    > wrote:
    > > The other day, I was stopped in my car by the police and given
    > > what's called a "civil infraction" for having a burned out passenger
    > > side brake light.

    >
    > We call that a 'fixit ticket'.
    >
    > > I have 14 days to get it fixed and to go to the
    > > station to provide proof that it is fixed.

    >
    > Yep.
    >
    > > As I understand it, the
    > > civil infraction will then be closed.

    >
    > That's the way it is around here. It goes away.
    >
    > > I have a few questions:
    > >
    > > Where are civil infractions recorded?

    >
    > You didn't even say what planet you are on - or country - or state - or
    > city - or county - or what jurisdiction was the officer who gave you the
    > ticket -- and you want to know where it is recorded? Doh.
    >
    > It would become recorded in the jurisdictional entity of the officer who
    > issued the ticket. Look at your ticket. If you fail to remedy and
    > prove you have remedied the violation, then you have broken a law and
    > then there are consequences ranging from having to mail in a fine to
    > having to appear before a judge for the violation. It is much better to
    > fix the problem and show it to a cop at a local cop facility. Around
    > here, the local police have little storefront operations just for such
    > issues.
    >
    > > How long do they stay on the record?

    >
    > Usually if you keep it off the record it isn't on the record.
    >
    > > Does this get reported to my car insurance provider?

    >
    > Usually if you let a 'forgiveable' infraction turn into a real
    > violation, then it gets reported to the state which issues your DL.
    > Some states only keep track of moving violations like speeding. Not
    > mechanicals.
    >
    > > Will it make my insurance go up?

    >
    > Your insco has its own rules about good driver discounts and what you
    > have to do to lose the discount. Typically a single ticket for a
    > mechanical violation even one which turned into a real ticket because it
    > was ignored instead of going away because it was remedied -- isn't going
    > to have an impact on your ins rates.
    >
    > The best thing to do is to fix the light and get the mechanical
    > violation to just go away. If you ignore something like that and its
    > derivatives thoroughly enough, you can end up with a warrant for your
    > arrest being issued.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Mike Easter

    The absurdity of this whole thread is I thought this is a computer
    repair newsgroup.
    Wereo_SUPREMACY, Jun 18, 2006
    #9
  10. Oldus Fartus Guest

    Wereo_SUPREMACY wrote:

    > The absurdity of this whole thread is I thought this is a computer
    > repair newsgroup.
    >


    You thought wrong.

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    Oldus Fartus
    Oldus Fartus, Jun 18, 2006
    #10
  11. Deerfoot Guest

    <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hi. The other day, I was stopped in my car by the police and given
    > what's called a "civil infraction" for having a burned out passenger
    > side brake light. I have 14 days to get it fixed and to go to the
    > station to provide proof that it is fixed. As I understand it, the
    > civil infraction will then be closed.
    >
    > I have a few questions:
    >
    > Where are civil infractions recorded?
    >
    > How long do they stay on the record?
    >
    > Does this get reported to my car insurance provider?
    >
    > Will it make my insurance go up?


    Whadda you think?
    Insurance companies,especially auto insurers,are the biggest extortionists
    in existence.

    >
    > Thanks,
    > Roger Carlson
    >
    Deerfoot, Jun 18, 2006
    #11
  12. me Guest

    "Toolman Tim" <> wrote in message
    news:VY2lg.104$...
    > In news:,
    > spewed forth:
    >> Hi. The other day, I was stopped in my car by the police and given
    >> what's called a "civil infraction" for having a burned out passenger
    >> side brake light. I have 14 days to get it fixed and to go to the
    >> station to provide proof that it is fixed. As I understand it, the
    >> civil infraction will then be closed.
    >>
    >> I have a few questions:
    >>
    >> Where are civil infractions recorded?

    >
    > Who cares?
    >


    because he wants to blow up the building where they keep records !!
    me, Jun 18, 2006
    #12
  13. me Guest

    "Wereo_SUPREMACY" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > Mike Easter wrote:
    >> wrote:
    >> > The other day, I was stopped in my car by the police and given
    >> > what's called a "civil infraction" for having a burned out passenger
    >> > side brake light.

    >>
    >> We call that a 'fixit ticket'.
    >>
    >> > I have 14 days to get it fixed and to go to the
    >> > station to provide proof that it is fixed.

    >>
    >> Yep.
    >>
    >> > As I understand it, the
    >> > civil infraction will then be closed.

    >>
    >> That's the way it is around here. It goes away.
    >>
    >> > I have a few questions:
    >> >
    >> > Where are civil infractions recorded?

    >>
    >> You didn't even say what planet you are on - or country - or state - or
    >> city - or county - or what jurisdiction was the officer who gave you the
    >> ticket -- and you want to know where it is recorded? Doh.
    >>
    >> It would become recorded in the jurisdictional entity of the officer who
    >> issued the ticket. Look at your ticket. If you fail to remedy and
    >> prove you have remedied the violation, then you have broken a law and
    >> then there are consequences ranging from having to mail in a fine to
    >> having to appear before a judge for the violation. It is much better to
    >> fix the problem and show it to a cop at a local cop facility. Around
    >> here, the local police have little storefront operations just for such
    >> issues.
    >>
    >> > How long do they stay on the record?

    >>
    >> Usually if you keep it off the record it isn't on the record.
    >>
    >> > Does this get reported to my car insurance provider?

    >>
    >> Usually if you let a 'forgiveable' infraction turn into a real
    >> violation, then it gets reported to the state which issues your DL.
    >> Some states only keep track of moving violations like speeding. Not
    >> mechanicals.
    >>
    >> > Will it make my insurance go up?

    >>
    >> Your insco has its own rules about good driver discounts and what you
    >> have to do to lose the discount. Typically a single ticket for a
    >> mechanical violation even one which turned into a real ticket because it
    >> was ignored instead of going away because it was remedied -- isn't going
    >> to have an impact on your ins rates.
    >>
    >> The best thing to do is to fix the light and get the mechanical
    >> violation to just go away. If you ignore something like that and its
    >> derivatives thoroughly enough, you can end up with a warrant for your
    >> arrest being issued.
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> Mike Easter

    > The absurdity of this whole thread is I thought this is a computer
    > repair newsgroup.
    >


    Really? Where in the group name does it say anything about computers ?
    me, Jun 18, 2006
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  14. me Guest

    <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > quipped:
    >
    >>Hi. The other day, I was stopped in my car by the police and given
    >>what's called a "civil infraction" for having a burned out passenger
    >>side brake light. I have 14 days to get it fixed and to go to the
    >>station to provide proof that it is fixed. As I understand it, the
    >>civil infraction will then be closed.
    >>
    >>I have a few questions:
    >>
    >>Where are civil infractions recorded?

    >
    > ..they're not, unless you don't get the car fixed. Then it's recorded
    > as a non-moving violation. Like a defective equipment violation on
    > your record.
    >
    >>
    >>How long do they stay on the record?

    >
    > ..*if* you don't comply and it gets on your record, 3-5 years
    > ,depending on your states motor vehicle code.
    >
    >>
    >>Does this get reported to my car insurance provider?

    >
    > ..only if you don't get it fixed.
    >
    >>
    >>Will it make my insurance go up?

    >
    > ..depends on your insurance company. Some insurance companies
    > could care less about non-moving violations.


    Shouldn't that be "Couldn't care less" ?
    me, Jun 18, 2006
    #14
  15. me wrote:
    >
    ><> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> quipped:
    >>
    >>>Hi. The other day, I was stopped in my car by the police and given
    >>>what's called a "civil infraction" for having a burned out passenger
    >>>side brake light. I have 14 days to get it fixed and to go to the
    >>>station to provide proof that it is fixed. As I understand it, the
    >>>civil infraction will then be closed.
    >>>
    >>>I have a few questions:
    >>>
    >>>Where are civil infractions recorded?

    >>
    >> ..they're not, unless you don't get the car fixed. Then it's recorded
    >> as a non-moving violation. Like a defective equipment violation on
    >> your record.
    >>
    >>>
    >>>How long do they stay on the record?

    >>
    >> ..*if* you don't comply and it gets on your record, 3-5 years
    >> ,depending on your states motor vehicle code.
    >>
    >>>
    >>>Does this get reported to my car insurance provider?

    >>
    >> ..only if you don't get it fixed.
    >>
    >>>
    >>>Will it make my insurance go up?

    >>
    >> ..depends on your insurance company. Some insurance companies
    >> could care less about non-moving violations.

    >
    > Shouldn't that be "Couldn't care less" ?


    The idiom "could care less" is long-established as meaning "couldn't
    care less". Odd, sure, but it's venerable.


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  16. George Guest

    Wereo_SUPREMACY wrote:
    > Mike Easter wrote:
    >> wrote:
    >>> The other day, I was stopped in my car by the police and given
    >>> what's called a "civil infraction" for having a burned out passenger
    >>> side brake light.

    <Snip>
    >> --
    >> Mike Easter

    > The absurdity of this whole thread is I thought this is a computer
    > repair newsgroup.


    You thought wrong.
    George, Jun 18, 2006
    #16
  17. Guest

    "Deerfoot" <> quipped:

    <snip>

    >
    >Whadda you think?
    >Insurance companies,especially auto insurers,are the biggest extortionists
    >in existence.
    >


    I certainly don't want this to turn into an insurance thread but on
    the subject of "extortionist" auto insurers....

    some are, some aren't. I was *REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY* thankful
    that I had insurance when some uninsured nut job whacked our car and
    ran off.

    Insurance is one of those things that you pay in the hopes that you
    never need it but are glad it's there when you do.

    I've found that those that complain the most about the cost of
    insurance are usually the ones that need it the most. Or, at a
    minimum, WE need it to protect ourselves from YOU.
    , Jun 18, 2006
    #17
  18. philo Guest

    <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hi. The other day, I was stopped in my car by the police and given
    > what's called a "civil infraction" for having a burned out passenger
    > side brake light. I have 14 days to get it fixed and to go to the
    > station to provide proof that it is fixed. As I understand it, the
    > civil infraction will then be closed.



    <snip>

    as long as you get the light fixed within the proper time frame
    you will suffer no problems at all. IE:your insurance will not go up


    BTW: I found out that even if you get a *real* ticket such as speeding
    etc...
    if you go to court and act polite...
    chances are you will get it reduced slightly
    philo, Jun 18, 2006
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  19. mumbled incoherently in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:

    > "Deerfoot" <> quipped:
    >
    > <snip>
    >
    >>
    >>Whadda you think?
    >>Insurance companies,especially auto insurers,are the biggest
    >>extortionists in existence.
    >>

    >
    > I certainly don't want this to turn into an insurance thread but on
    > the subject of "extortionist" auto insurers....
    >
    > some are, some aren't. I was *REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY* thankful
    > that I had insurance when some uninsured nut job whacked our car and
    > ran off.
    >
    > Insurance is one of those things that you pay in the hopes that you
    > never need it but are glad it's there when you do.
    >
    > I've found that those that complain the most about the cost of
    > insurance are usually the ones that need it the most. Or, at a
    > minimum, WE need it to protect ourselves from YOU.
    >
    >


    Amen to that! My son got T-boned at an intersection by an uninsured,
    speeding driver who ran a stop sign and totalled his Grand Am. I had a tree
    fall on my van to the tune of 2 grand plus in a storm a while back. Glad I
    had no deductible comprehensive, 'cuz money was pretty tight at the time.,
    and then a few months after that, a deer attacked the van to the tune of
    about 1800 bucks.

    Around here, insurance is *required*. If they pull you over, you must show
    proof of insurance, in addition to license and registration. No insurance,
    they impound the car. They *do* check to see if the insurance is valid,
    too. False insurance papers, off to the calaboose with you, same as phony
    DL or registration.

    I was acquainted with a fellow who said he didn't need insurance, because
    he didn't really own anything, so how could they get anything. He had a
    property damage accident in which he was at-fault. He's still paying a
    sizeable portion of his income, and that was a few years ago. He carries
    insurance now...






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    The Old Sourdough, Jun 18, 2006
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  20. Shawn Hirn Guest

    In article <>,
    wrote:

    > Hi. The other day, I was stopped in my car by the police and given
    > what's called a "civil infraction" for having a burned out passenger
    > side brake light. I have 14 days to get it fixed and to go to the
    > station to provide proof that it is fixed. As I understand it, the
    > civil infraction will then be closed.
    >
    > I have a few questions:
    >
    > Where are civil infractions recorded?
    >
    > How long do they stay on the record?
    >
    > Does this get reported to my car insurance provider?
    >
    > Will it make my insurance go up?


    This depends on where in the world you live, but if it really concerns
    you, call the phone number on the ticket and ask, but get the brake
    light fixed ASAP.
    Shawn Hirn, Jun 18, 2006
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