Ping THE PUPPY WIZARD aka JERRY HOWE

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  1. Jane Fondle

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    Jerry, how have you been. I used your training manual on my beagle and
    now he is a great dog! Do you still sell the doggie do right?
     
    Jane Fondle, Sep 28, 2003
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  2. Jane Fondle wrote:

    > Jerry, how have you been. I used your training manual on my beagle and
    > now he is a great dog! Do you still sell the doggie do right?




    Hello Jane Fondle.

    The Puppy Wizard is one of our most respected regulars. His manual has
    heelped people all over the world.

    We are glad you are having success,

    Sincerely,

    Peter Fondler
     
    @ d o g t v dot com, Sep 28, 2003
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  3. HOWEDY Jane,

    "Jane Fondle" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > Jerry, how have you been.


    EXCELLENT, thank you.

    > I used your training manual on my beagle


    EXCELLENT, thank you.

    > and now he is a great dog!


    INDEEDY! That's The Puppy Wizard's SPECIALTY!

    ENJOY!

    > Do you still sell the doggie do right?


    INDEEDY, and nHOWE we're begining human
    studies with it for adhd children:


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D.
    To: Andrew
    Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 11:08 AM
    Subject: DOGGIE DO RIGHT, wanna join the party?

    Andrew, Jerry Howe is here as I type and we have decided to
    create a human mellowing branch and to sell the marvel mystery
    device. Here is my first draft. What do you think?

    George

    Friends and colleagues:

    A couple of years ago I became interested in Doggy Do Right
    (DDR) a sonic device which inhibits barking in your neighbors'
    yappy dogs. I tested the instrument and became pleased at the
    silence in our neighborhood.

    I perused the manual for the DDR which has significant
    guidance for loving your own dog so that the wee beast no
    longer leaps up on you, howls, whines, tears up your shoes,
    escapes, digs holes, spins around, throws up in the car, eats
    paper, self-mutilates, fears thunder, suffers when you go to
    the store and don't take him, and all the other ills and
    behavior problems to which the domesticated dog is prone.

    Jerry Howe, the inventor of the DDR, understands doggy
    behavior so well he might well have been a student of Sam
    Corson (Pavlov's last student who fixed hyperactive dogs, and
    started our profession, as well as the profession of "Pet
    Facilitated Therapy").

    It occured to me that we might put ourselves out of work. If
    a sonic device can mellow hyperactive dogs, why wouldn't it do
    so for hyperactive kids and neurotic adults?

    So, I am inviting a few friends and colleagues to join me in
    forming a company, which will lease BABY BE GOOD; HAPPY
    BOY; SWEET LITTLE GIRL; MAMA BE MELLOW; PAPA BE
    STRONG - these are just first pass names for the device in its
    several adjustments. Jerry Howe, genius inventor says you
    have to refine the adjustment for .

    More than a thousand owners agree that DOGGY DO RIGHT
    happifies the dogs next door so they don't bark. DOGGY DO
    RIGHT also happifies the dog in your home so that she doesn't
    do all the unwanted, unpleasant things that dogs often do.

    AND!!! DOGGY DO RIGHT happifies the humans in your
    house so that they are more mellow, happy, quiet and not
    so dratted obsessive and angry.

    Problem here. Is this therapy? If so the poor little silently
    singing device needs $4,000,000 to do an FDA study.

    THANK GOD! IT ISN'T THERAPY!

    It is the same effect that Baroque music has on emotion, learning,
    behavior and memory. Baroque music mellows and enhances and
    so does DOGGY DO RIGHT.

    Of course, these wonderful results have to be proved, by
    acceptable means.

    =======================

    Jerry, don't think I sent this to you. A remarkable success
    for DDR - I keep wanting to call it, Doggie Be Good, DBG.

    Maybe we ought to try it as an alternate name! Set up your
    own competition.

    Fondly, George


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Andy
    To: George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D.
    Cc:
    Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 5:19 PM
    Subject: Re: Doggie Do Right;

    I have to agree with George. I found out about this and asked
    George to look into it. Got good results, so I bought one. I
    have 6 LOUD dogs outside my back window, chained up all the
    time, less than 50 feet behind the house. They used to keep me
    up nights until I bought the DDR machine. Now, quiet.

    Yes, they bark when someone gets too close at odd hours, but
    then they stop. Used to be they would bark for hours. (Their
    owner must wonder what happened, I called the cops a couple of
    times, but didn't want to drag him into court.)

    Andy

    At 05:06 PM 5/5/2003 -0400, George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D.
    wrote:

    Doggie Do Right; Kitty Will; A Rooster did and a Cockatoo or
    two did too.

    The inventor is visiting with me. I am severely impressed.

    So, I wanna know, do you wish to explore with me the marketing
    of this device.

    Greg tried the machine out; Andy has one; I can't recall if I
    told John about it or not. You'd love the guy, he looks like
    Johnie Appleseed before his hair went white, long black
    beard, but no bs.

    Not defensive at all when I asked the hard questions; a bit of
    an idealist when it came to making money, but he's sold a
    thousand of the damned things, and has some very solid
    references.

    I ran his EEG when the instrument was broadcasting and
    damn it changed the brainwaves. Hot rats.

    I think we could do good, and do well, too.

    The point of it is that my evidence is that it will calm down
    kids, stop seizures, and mellow out their parents. We have to
    prove this, but he already has a psychiatrist with excellent
    comments; and me; and sampling his sales will build a lovely
    package. 1000 sold already.

    I made another trial with new dogs just up the street and the
    damned things shut up. The dogs next door have remained
    silent since I first tried it a year ago.

    What ya think? George

    =============================

    A non dog owner, Dr. Von, a child psychogist and
    biofeedback training specialist, tested my machine
    at the request of one of his friends who wanted his
    opinion as to the efficacy of my machine. He loves
    the concept, as it mirrors his approach to educating
    difficult children:


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D.
    Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 3:21 PM
    Subject: [GVS]doggydoright

    I just had a nice talk with the man who invented
    the "doggydoright" device.

    If you know someone working at a shelter etc
    who wants to quieten the dogs in the neighborhood
    then this is an ideal present for them - and he will
    sell it at a discount. He sounds like someone we
    all know who has no sense at all about money.

    Nice, nice man.

    "doggydoright" may be obtained from


    I now have four locations at which the thing has worked,
    so I recommend it.

    Yap yap yap no more! I have zero financial interest in this.

    George

    ============

    The Puppy Wizard's
    Doggy Do Right (And Kitty Will And A Rooster Did
    And A Cockatoo Or Two Did Too)

    - The Little Black Box That Cures Animal's Annoying Habits -

    Here are a few publicly posted, verifiable, unsolicited
    testimonials:

    From: Chris Williams ()
    Subject: Re: Thank you Jerry Howe
    Date: 2002-03-26 08:16:19 PST

    Engrossing account, Anthony. Our best to Angel
    and your family.

    A friend, who socializes the kittens I've taken
    from a feral cat colony, is using the DDR.

    She reports far fewer panic problems than
    she's had before.

    ============================

    Chris Williams writes:

    "The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
    I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what
    I've always done without thinking of it as "training".
    New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased
    the last of Mac's fireworks trauma,"

    ====================

    Jerry says:
    HOWE'S the baby's seizures?

    parentadlitem says:
    better

    Jerry says:
    got any idea how much better?

    parentadlitem says:
    not really

    parentadlitem says:
    she doesn't do em here that i see

    Jerry says:
    amazing

    Jerry says:
    when's the last time she seized with you?

    parentadlitem says:
    weeks ago?

    Jerry says:
    but before the machine it was daily?

    parentadlitem says:
    every minute!

    Jerry says:
    does her mom use it at her HOWES?

    parentadlitem says:
    yup

    parentadlitem says:
    i yelled at her about it

    Jerry says:
    ask her when's the last time she saw a seizure for me

    parentadlitem says:
    k . she's sleepin now, ill talk to her tonight, she's comin
    over

    Jerry says:
    yeah... that's pretty good stuff

    parentadlitem says:
    yup

    parentadlitem says:
    i love mine

    parentadlitem says:
    no barkin the neighborhood at all anymore

    parentadlitem says:
    ever

    Jerry says:
    right

    parentadlitem says:
    once in a blue moon some distant dog will bark

    parentadlitem says:
    but all the neighbors dogs are quiet

    Jerry says:
    when you hear that distant dog throw the machine on

    parentadlitem says:
    we do

    parentadlitem says:
    it's really rare though

    =================

    > Nevyn" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >
    > Hi There Jerry
    >
    > Its Nevyn. Sorry Ive not been posting, but I've been
    > working weekend work at the tracks with the greyhounds
    > (thanks to you!).
    >
    > Well my dogs are the envy of all on my street. I can
    > have them out in the yard with me, take them walking
    > without a leash, they will do any command with no
    > hesitation. And they don't bark anymore! Thanks to
    > your machine!
    >
    > Oh yeah, I loaned your machine to several friends
    > and family -- Here are some reports:
    >
    > "I would say my dogs are well trained, but they suffer
    > severe anxiety when no body is home. This machine
    > quietened them almost instantly - still they barked,
    > in the beginning, but just one or two barks. Then
    > slowly they just stopped... beginning to bark, then
    > instantly stopping.
    >
    > It took only 2 weeks, and we did nothing.
    >
    > Truly amazing;
    >
    > I have recommomeded it to my family, and perhaps
    > they will buy one. Its a shame you don't sell them publicly".
    > -- Kylie, 30, on dogs Lili (11 yr mutt bitch) and Sheeba (4 yr
    > Rotty X)
    >
    >
    > "My two dogs barked insanely when someone would
    > go past. With this little machine they quietened right
    > down, and even became partly obedient, and we did
    > nothing!
    >
    >
    > Great stuff.
    >
    > We ran it only on the lowest setting, too!"
    > - Ed, 65, on his two male Dobermans, 5 yrs old.
    >
    > Well I have some more, and am collecting more,
    > but I only have one machine so its a slow process.
    > Once again I say thankyou Jerry! My family was
    > on the verge of giving them up! :(
    >
    > But no longer :)
    >
    > =====================
    >
    > From: aimee ()
    > Subject: doggie do right
    > Date: 2002-08-01 06:57:15 PST
    >
    > doggie do right rocks!!
    >
    > We were sent one of these fantastic machines 5 months
    > ago to see if it would help with our rambunctious mutts.
    > The doggy do right has done more than just work...it
    > has worked miracles!
    >
    > Our pair of noisier than freight-train doggies were barking
    > so loud at our neighbours and passers by that we were just
    > about ready to find them new homes. But within just two
    > months of using the Doggy Do Right they were nice and
    > quiet and stopped barking at the neighbours.
    >
    > They did relapse a little when their owner went away,
    > but we started the program again and within days
    > they were both quiet and obedient once more.
    >
    > Our doggies have now not barked unnecessarily
    > for over 2 months.
    >
    > Thanks Jerry! You have made my dreams come true!
    >
    > Aimee.




    Subj: Fear of Thunder
    Date: 6/29/02 6:07:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time
    From: Jraltman
    To: Witsenddog

    Dear Jerry,

    I hope you'll be able to post this message so more people who
    are at their wit's end will be able to help their dogs.

    To review:

    Our puppy was uncomfortable during thunder storms.
    At the beginning of the problem, she paced restlessly
    from room to room. She couldn't settle and sleep.

    From there the problem grew. She would run to the
    far southeast corner of the house (which makes
    sense because most storms here come from the
    northwest) and she'd cower in the corner of the
    couch and shake.

    1st attempt to help her:

    I'd pick her up, brush and massage her (call me a nut -
    I've sung to her when I've done her daily brushing since
    she was tiny so of course I sang too) and when she
    relaxed, I'd put her in her crate. She then slept and I
    thought the problem was solved.

    Traumatic event:

    We were out in the park playing with one of her doggy
    friends when it began to rain. On the way home, there
    was the loudest, longest, thunder clap I've ever heard.
    From that day on, the problem got worse and worse.

    I couldn't calm her with singing and massage. The
    fear spread. She wouldn't go out if it was raining.
    No thunder, just gently summer rain, and she
    wouldn't go out.

    The solution:

    I surfed the net and came across a free manual Wit's
    End Dog Training Method and a product called Doggy
    Do Right that seemed better than anything else I came
    across.

    A phone call to Jerry Howe, author of the manual and
    Director of Research, Biosound Scientific, convince
    me to try both the manual and the product.

    Problem solved:

    I followed Jerry's suggestions (more phone calls - he
    is most generous with his time and advice).

    The first two thunder storms my puppy was restless but
    not running around in a blind panic. The third storm, she
    barked her deep, stranger danger bark after each clap of
    thunder. The fourth storm, she seemed uneasy at first.

    Soon she was asleep at my feet and she napped through
    the rest of the storm. A miracle. I am endlessly grateful to
    Jerry for his manual and his machine.

    A word about Doggy Do Right. It is odd to buy a machine
    that emits a sound I cannot hear. I took the chance because
    Jerry offered a full refund including shipping.

    Though I heard nothing, my puppy clearly did. When I first
    turned on the machine, she got the cutest, most quizzical
    look on her face. She looked at me as if to say: "What's
    that? I never heard that before." She looks at the machine
    when it is on.

    She rests on the floor beneath it.

    It is obvious from her behavior that she is aware of its
    cycles.

    Amazing.

    Thank you Jerry.

    =============


    "misty" <> wrote in message
    news:
    ebtv .net...
    > Jerry sent me the DDR when I mentioned my cockatoo
    > was stressed out by my then just learning to walk
    > baby.


    > Buddy was screaming day and night..lunging at Joey
    > whenever he crawled up to Buddy's cage and nipping
    > the baby ( if Buddy wanted to his beak is powerful
    > enough to sever an adult's finger in one snap!) At
    > first we noticed nothing... after a few days
    > ..nothing..nothing except quiet :)


    > That's not to say Buddy never screams.. heh.. he'a a
    > 'Too.. but the late night scream-a-thons ended.


    > He also tolerates Joey playing in his water dish
    > <sigh> just what I want...2 splashers! Buddy loves
    > to bathe in his water until there's more water on
    > the floor and walls than in his dish :)


    > Twice now Buddy has had marathon scream-a-thons...
    > for a few days each time. It takes that long for me
    > to realize the DDR is unplugged :-O
    > Once cos DH did some maintenance and forgot to plug
    > it back in ( of course he remembered to plug the
    > washing machine back in ;-P)


    > The second time I had unplugged it while
    > sweeping...and forgot to plug it back in...


    > We sure enjoy him being such a good bird! He's been
    > so loving to everyone... my older 2 boys love being
    > able to give him scritches again.


    > ~misty


    > (No, Jerry, you can't have the DDR back just yet! :)


    ===================


    Elaine McClung, President of Pet Rescue, Animal Commissioner
    Brevard Co FL, writes: Sep 9, 2000

    "I ordered from Jerry a long time ago.. He was helpful
    and the order was filled promptly. Yes, Doggie Do Right
    does indeed exist.

    I "had" a very aggressive female Pit.. She was showing
    aggression not only towards Dok, Rhodesian Ridgeback,
    but our cats and even us.

    She now plays with Dok, even to the point of allowing him
    to take a toy or bone from her. She no longer shows any
    aggression towards us. She is showing some aggression
    towards the cats but that is down to a warning growl.

    It is not just my opinion that all this aggression
    existed before Doggie Do Right as we were advised by
    three vets to euthanize her.

    I do very much believe that DDR will help JR as I know it
    has helped my dogs and cats. I do think your product is a
    valuable tool in helping with aggression and other
    behavior problems.

    I am in Feral CatNetwork (we spay and neuter
    approximately 100 feral cats a month), I am also a member
    of a local AKC dog obedience club, member of a local AKC
    agility club, president of Pet Rescue, board member of
    the Alliance for Care and Welfare of Animals (on the
    board are: county commissioner, vet. rep., rep. from AKC
    dog club, CFA cat club, assistant County manager, head of
    animal control, director of two different shelters, etc.)
    and Space Coast Feline Network
    http://www.spacecoastfelinenetwork.com

    Thanks, Elaine,

    ===================


    Hi Jerry,

    I wrote to you a week or so ago about the unit. I have
    since borrowed one from Elaine Mc Clung. She speaks very
    highly of it.

    So, I brought it home and plugged it in. Of course, I
    wanted it to come on, all the barking stop, and have
    every one immediately fall to the floor in little comas
    for a few hours. Well, after I got all 27 of them to be
    quiet, still no comas. But, it had only been 36 seconds
    at that point. So, I gave it a little longer. Still no
    comas. Was this really going to work? I mean, I do have
    an unusual situation.

    So, by bedtime, a few hours later. I started to notice
    just how many were asleep already - with their feet in
    the air! I started to have hope. During the night, all
    was calm. In the morning when I got up, only a few of
    them WALKED quietly to the door to go out. Not the usual
    evacuation.

    I had the unit from Sunday afternoon until Tuesday
    Morning. I was certainly pleased with the night effect. I
    wasn't so sure about the amount of the day time effect.
    Until I took it back. Within half an hour, the monsters
    had resurfaced. I wondered if I could break into Elaine's
    house and if she would notice :)

    I know another person who does dog rescue. She rescues
    Beagles. She has 23 in an 1100 square foot house. God
    bless her. She is interested to see if it will work for
    her. I also spoke to someone else who does cat rescue,
    and she is interested. The cat rescue people have monthly
    meetings. Maybe Elaine could give a word or two about it.

    So, if there are any words of advice you can send my way
    about the best way to use it in my case, I would
    appreciate it. I of course wanted to keep it on the
    highest setting, but don't know if that is advised, even
    with my situation of so many new ones coming and (too
    few) going.

    Also, how I and others can go about getting one, etc. I
    think the vets should have the info in their offices. It
    must help dogs with separation anxiety. My vet practices
    homeopathic as well as traditional medicine, so I
    would think it would be right up her alley.

    Thank you.
    Desiree M Webber
    A New Leash On Life

    ================

    From: "Regina Guerrero" <>
    To: <>
    Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:42 AM
    Subject: Thank You!

    > I just wanted to take a bit of time
    > to tell you how much I appreciate your product and
    > your training methods as well.


    > When my little Chihuahua first arrived
    > I was overwhelmed with her anxiety and
    > her ability to just Bark endlessly.


    > I received your product and at first I thought
    > I was using it wrong, because my puppy just seemed to
    > ignore it.


    > But after a week or two, she began to calm down
    > considerably as well as act more friendly towards
    > people on the street.


    > I can't believe the difference I see in my little
    > puppy. Your product is a life saver!


    > Thanks again for everything.


    > Sincerely,
    > Regina Guerrero


    ==================

    "misty" <> wrote in message
    news:...

    > Jerry has taken the time to help me out off the NG. I have
    > a very loud cockatoo who has been having problems adjusting
    > to my 8 month old son.
    >
    > Joey is learning to walk. He likes to use Buddy's cage as a
    > hold on for dear life object.
    >
    > Buddy wasn't exposed to toddlers prior to Joey.. my older
    > two boys went through this stage in a different house where
    > Buddy had his own room and the boys had only visits, not
    > daily contact 24/7.
    >
    > Buddy has always been spooked by "tiny" humans. Joey has
    > been driving him nuts! He showed his disapproval by
    > non-stop screaming. A cockatoo scream can be heard a block
    > away with all the widows shut <g> being in the house it
    > makes your ears pop and your nerves crawl.
    >
    > Jerry sent me Free his DDR. He sent instructions on how to
    > use it. He answered my questions quite politely.
    >
    > I have been using the DDR in my kitchen ( where Buddy is
    > located~ teensy 4 room house) for 3 weeks.
    >
    > At first I noticed no difference in Buddy's behavior. Then
    > I realized after a week that he no longer screamed for
    > hours on end. This isn't to say he stopped completely <bg>
    > he still demands his share of all meals. But he doesn't
    > start screaming at 10 pm when he wants _everyone_ to go to
    > bed. Last week he had a day where he screamed all day. My
    > nerves were frazzled. I went to turn the DDR up a notch per
    > Jerry's instructions. I discovered the DDR was shut off! I
    > turned it back on and left it on the lowest setting. Buddy
    > calmed back down and quit screaming.
    >
    > In the time that I've had the DDR on I've had a lot of c*ts
    > come to my house. One I adopted and he's quite the sweetie.
    > He's a yellow tiger named Gatomon ( means c*t monster) who
    > is very friendly with my kids and Zelda.
    >
    > I may not like how Jerry treats other posters but I do like
    > the methods he shares. Being on a limited budget I like
    > things that are free. I also like the fact that I can
    > e-mail him and get advice whenever I need it.
    >
    > Even my DH who is a technical minded kind of guy thinks the
    > DDR is working. ( He went to Devry and has a degree in
    > electronics, knows alot about radios and anything
    > mechanical... he's a jack of all trades around the house
    > <g>). He does NDT for a living.
    >
    > We don't expect to need the DDR forever.. As soon as Joey
    > is walking, Buddy will realize that he's not a strange
    > animal.. some kind of furless dog or c*t <bg>.


    ==============================

    "Linda" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > "Rosa Palmén" <> wrote in message

    news:<_bhla.1641$>...

    > Rosa, I got the doggy do right machine from Jerry
    > in Jan and my dog relaxed in the first week. He
    > does not have SA but he scratched himself raw
    > until I got the machine. He also was a frantic
    > chewer on his sticks until I got the machine.
    >
    > In less than a month he really relaxed. Now when
    > the machine in on he just lays down and goes to sleep.
    >
    > If there is something outside that upsets him like a
    > cat in the yard I just turn it on and he can cope.
    >
    > You will see all sorts of comments about the machine
    > being as loud as a freight train etc but it is small and
    > can not be heard by humans. I know he can hear it
    > and that it relaxes him because I can see him relax
    > when he hears it.
    >
    > I used the machine outside on the patio to quiet to
    > dogs behind us that barked a hundred times a day.
    > In two weeks they reduced the barking by 80%--
    > When they barked after the machine was on Sunshine
    > ran to the patio as they were alarm barking not just
    > barking to pass the time.
    >
    > I asked the owners if they had noticed the dogs barking
    > less and they said yes they had guessed the dogs were
    > just growing up.
    >
    > Sunshine loved daycare but he was kicked out when he
    > got aggressive but now than he has been trained with
    > Jerry's Wits End Method and the machine I think I will
    > let him go back to daycare.
    >
    > I am disabled so I can not run and play with him and
    > I know he needs to play with other dogs.
    >
    > Go to www.doggydoright.com and read about the
    > machine and get a free copy of Wits End Training
    > Manual--since the info is free you won't lose anything
    > and you can really help your dog.
    >
    > Linda and Sunshine


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    "Anthony Testa" <> wrote in message
    news:...

    > I moved to Jacksonville, Florida about a year
    > ago with my lovely wife linda. 3 times a week
    > for 7 months I visited the Dog shelter and
    > Humane Society looking for a German Shepherd.
    > There were several times they had a dog there,
    > but I was looking for a bitch. The reason for this
    > is, all my life I have always had a female German
    > shepherd. Therefore, I wanted another one. Finally
    > about 6 weeks ago, I found her. "Angel" looked
    > just like my previous dog of 12 years. I called my
    > wife, she came down and fell in love with her immediately.
    > We filled out the paper work and left the Humane
    > Society with her.
    >
    > We drove directly to Pet Smart to buy all the essentials.
    > We bought the biggest crate available. Let it be known I
    > have never used a crate with any of my previous dogs.
    > The biggest difference is my other dogs I had from puppy
    > age. Angel just turned 2, 3 days before adoption.
    >
    > Angel appeared to be happy the trip home. Her ears
    > were down all the time and her tail was so far between
    > her legs that it looked like she had 3 ears. (humor)
    > None the less, we knew we had a dog that was insecure.
    > The first night we let Angel sleep in the living room.
    >
    > However, we had to go to work the next day. We pet
    > her, kissed her and put her in the crate in the middle
    > of the living room. During the day, my sons came
    > home to walk her, give her a little loving and play with
    > her. Then put her back in the crate and go to work.
    > When we got home the first day, everything in the
    > crate was ripped to shreds.
    >
    > The neighbors approached us and said that the dogs
    > barked constantly for 3 hours then barked continuously
    > after my sons left again. We thought it was because
    > everything was new. We were wrong. The dig did
    > this every day for 4 days.
    >
    > The 4th day was our first scheduled visit with the
    > vet. The vet told us he can see that the dog is
    > suffering from abuse and separation anxiety. So,
    > the vet puts the dog on clomicalm. (not sure of the
    > spelling).
    >
    > Well, for two days the dog walked around like Jerry
    > Garcia on a Friday night after a concert, stoned!
    > However, we were home with her the entire weekend.
    >
    > We crated her for work and came home to a barking
    > dog, ripped bedding in the crate, upset neighbors
    > and the plastic bottom of the crate completely torn
    > to bits. It was obvious that crating was not a good thing.
    >
    > The next day we decided to leave her out of the crate
    > to see what would happen. What a major mistake.
    > We came home to almost $1,000 in damage.
    > Furniture, the blinds were all chewed and torn down, etc.
    >
    > The next day we put her in the crate again. This
    > time we came home to a nice 2' x 3' hole in our
    > carpet in the middle of the living room, right down
    > to the cement. I told my wife that we cannot afford
    > to keep this dog. We should go out and get a puppy.
    >
    > She was upset and said there must be something
    > we can do. I told her this. " I will go on the internet
    > and see what is available". I was desperate and
    > wanted to see if there was someone who could help.
    >
    > We read the information about the DDR and emailed
    > Jerry. Jerry was kind enough to give us his phone
    > number to discuss Angel in more detail.
    >
    > First, at no cost he sent us his manual. We started
    > doing exactly what he said to do in the manual.
    > Exactly as we did was was written, the results were
    > exactly as he said it would be. Then we purchased
    > the DDR.
    >
    > This is an amazing god send to us. First of all,
    > Jerry sent it to us without paying. (thanks for that
    > gesture) This has such and AMAZING effect. This testimonial
    > is kind of winded so I will say this......Jerry's product
    > literally saved this dogs life.
    >
    > Angel can be left alone during the day. NO CRATE. The
    > dog shows absolutely no sign of anxiety at all. Jerry told
    > us the product works immediately and it did! She does
    > not bark at all during the day except when the mailman
    > drops mail into the slot on the door. The manual for
    > training works exactly as it says!
    >
    > We told our vet about this and he said that there are
    > all kind of gimmicks. I told my vet that as a person who
    > holds a degree of higher education, there just are some
    > things they don't have in the text books and he should
    > be receptive to that. We are proof. Angel was one
    > day from going back to the humane society.
    >
    > Listen to this...My wife wrote one of the so called know
    > it all of pets. His response to the exact letter we
    > initially wrote to Jerry..."Get rid of the dog, bring her
    > back" I'll save this person embarrassment by not saying the
    > name. However, you know who you are and I have this to say
    > to you. Go pump gas or bus tables because you
    > sir, do not belong working with animals!
    >
    > Jerry, after reading some of the threads in the news
    > group, I can't for the life of me understand why this
    > many people are so dang blind or ignorant.
    >
    > You just keep plugging away at what you do, because
    > you my friend are a life saver!!!
    >
    > Anytime you need someone to speak about the results
    > of your product, you have my number. We would gladly
    > talk to them.
    >
    > Thank you very much for all your help. God bless you...
    > Anthony & Linda Testa
    >
    > Jacksonville, Florida


    =====================


    A non dog owner writes:

    Dear Jerry-

    I just wanted to let you know how wonderful your Doggy Do
    Right product is. I was skeptical at first, but have been
    tremendously pleased.

    As you know, we had a neighbor's dog that was extremely
    bothersome, at times barking loudly for 3 hours straight.
    Within a few days, the barking decreased, and now it is
    just the occasional bark. this dog lives approximately
    500 feet away, and even at that distance, the machine has
    done wonders.

    You were always available and patient to answer my
    questions, and now I can be in my own home without going
    nuts from the barking. As an added pleasure, all the
    other minor barking nuisances in the neighborhood have
    stopped as well.

    Quiet is wonderful! Thank you.

    Pam Graves

    ===========================

    "I know that most men, including those at ease with
    problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept
    even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would
    oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they
    have delighted in explaining to colleagues, proudly
    taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by
    thread, into the fabric of their lives."
    -Leo Tolstoy-

    Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated
    more complaints to my personal email than any other
    controversial post I have made to date, bar none?:

    CAVEAT
    If you have to do things to your dog to train him that you
    would rather not have to do, then you shouldn't be doing
    them. If you have a dog trainer who tells you to jerk your
    dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes,
    shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, chin cuff, scruff shake or
    punish your dog in any manner, that corrections
    are appropriate, that the dog won't think of you as the
    punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they
    can't train your dog to do what you want, look for a
    trainer that knows HOWE.

    Thank you,
    Jerry Howe,
    Director of Research,
    BIOSOUND Scientific
    Director of Training,
    Wits' End Dog Training
    1611 24th St
    Orlando, FL 32805
    Phone: 1-407-425-5092
    Phone: 1-888-BIOSOUND (1-888-246-7686)
    Phone: 1-888-WITSEND (1-888-948-7363)
    http://www.doggydoright.com

    Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed.
    -Francis Bacon-

    There are terrible people who, instead of solving a
    problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who
    come after. Who ever can't hit the nail on the head
    should, please, not hit at all.
    -Nietzsche-

    The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are
    learned qualities.

    The Wits' End Dog Training Method challenges the learning
    centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged,
    develop and continue to grow to make him smarter.

    The Wits' End Dog Training method capitalizes on
    praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and
    timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition, constant
    corrections, and scolding.
    -Jerry Howe-

    The Puppy Wizard. <}TPW ; ~ ) >

    ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?
    ,-._,-,
    V)"(V
    (_o_) Have a great day!
    / V)
    (l l l) Your Puppy Wizzzard. <}YPW ; ~ } >
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    The Puppy Wizard, Sep 28, 2003
    #3
  4. Jerry, why does your name keep coming up in these newsgroups?

    Jane Fondle wrote:

    >Jerry, how have you been. I used your training manual on my beagle and
    >now he is a great dog! Do you still sell the doggie do right?
    >
    >
     
    sdfbgsdfsdfghshsfhsfhfg frhrsthsrth, Sep 28, 2003
    #4
  5. HOWEDY sdfbgsdfsdfghshsfhsfhfg frhrsthsrth,

    "sdfbgsdfsdfghshsfhsfhfg frhrsthsrth"
    <> wrote in
    >message news:...
    >
    > Jerry, why does your name keep coming up in these
    > newsgroups?


    Pehaps that's on accHOWENT of The Puppy Wizard
    has INFORMATION that's beneficial to WON and ALL.

    The Puppy Wizard has fHOWEND the CURE for ALL
    behavior problems and many stress related DIS-EASES
    in dogs and children, and teaches folks HOWE to do
    likeWIZE, for FREE, in HIS FREE WWW Wits' End
    Dog Training Method Manual.

    The PROBLEM is, that to do so, you got to stop ALL
    negative interactions and forced control. HOWER
    DOG LOVERS REFUSE to STOP HURTING their
    dogs, and will do and say ANYTHING to defend
    their alleged right to HURT and KILL their best dogs.

    "Marshall Dermer" <> wrote in message
    news:bl2tq7$mo2$...
    >
    > Our dog had recurrent UTIs, eventually he was diagnosed
    > with bladder stones and surgery revealed three calcium
    > oxalate uroliths.


    Yeah. What caused the sones, other than STRESS?

    NUTHIN.

    That's The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME, professor.

    > About two months after surgery he developed another UTI.
    > On visting my vet I asked how he keeps on getting re-
    > innoculated and I told her a story about a problem I had
    > had with recurrent boils. She suggested that I use the
    > equivalent treatment on our dog.
    >
    > Well it has been seven months since his last UTI, so
    > perhaps the treatment is working given his previously
    > having a UTI about every 4 or five months.
    >
    > And what is the treatment?
    >
    > Every night I take a baby wipe, put some pure aloe gel
    > on it, and clean his genital area. That's it!


    Perhaps it's a placebo effect, professor. The extra TLC
    might be enough to reduce the STRESS you cause him
    with your punishment and withholding of bribes to make
    IT throw behaviors.

    WON way to tell might be to notice if his furiHOWES masturbation
    on your cHOWECH pillows has likeWIZE, diminished.

    > (BTW, he seems to enjoy this more than my approaching
    > him every other night with the electric toothbush to ----brush
    > his teeth of course!)


    INDEEDY. Tooth decay and gum DIS-EASE are likeWIZE,
    precipitated by STRESS.

    The tally whacker treatment would likely reduce Maxie's
    stress AND masturbation.

    > --Marshall


    The Puppy Wizard's FREE TEN STEP DIAGNOSTIC / REHABILITATION
    PROGRAM

    HOWEDY professors, doctors, scientists, and dog lovers,

    The Puppy Wizard has been tellin you all along that any negative
    interactions produce stress which can cause OCD behaviors as
    recently "discovered" by researchers at Purdue, and likeWIZE can
    have debilitating effects on the immune / endocrine and other
    systems.

    The latest research from Ohio University PROVES THE
    LINK between Interleukin-6 and STRESS such as in simply
    tellin your dog 'NO!' or SCRUFF SHAKIN IT or locking IT in
    a box and IGNORING ITS CRIES or jerking and choking or
    shocking or spraying aversives in ITS face, as The Puppy
    Wizard has been CRITICIZED for TEACHING HERE FOR
    FIVE GODDAMNED YEARS NHOWE.

    Current research validates The Puppy Wizard's WILD
    ASSED UNSUBSTANTIATED CLAIMS that STRESS
    from MISHANDLING can cause damned near EVERY
    health and temperament problem just short of including
    freakin hangnails.

    IT'S FREAKIN TIME TO ROLL OVER OR END YOUR CAREERS.

    The Puppy Wizard has not been playin games and is
    ready to bring HIS FINDINGS to the media and scientific community,
    at which time such OBSTRUCTIONISTS as
    professor LYING DOC, SCRUFF SHAKE dermer and his
    ilk, will be TARGETED and this universities held liable
    for MALPRACTICE and ANMIMAL ABUSE.

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    See the article below and review The Puppy Wizzzard's Ten Step
    Rehabilitation Program offer:

    "Abby Pennington" <> wrote in message
    news:jlOMa.131$...
    > (Marshall Dermer) wrote in
    > news:be06ls$j6i$:
    >
    > <snip>
    >
    > I think biopsies are a very good idea. Better to look at
    > the actual tissue than to guess! I don't know that I would,
    > if he were my dog, put him through having to endure more
    > of these episodes, though I do think it's a good idea to bring
    > him to the e-vet should he have another.
    >
    > BTW, 102.5 isn't a fever. :) Normal canine temp is between
    > 100.5-102.5, and we don't get overly excited for anything
    > between 102.5 and 103. (I work at an emergency vet clinic)
    > --
    > -Abby
    >
    > Pems, Aussie, and a Pug
    >
    > ****Remove shoes to reply****
    >


    Researchers Find Link Between Stress And Illness

    Jun 30, 2003 5:00 pm US/Eastern
    WASHINGTON (AP) It's no surprise that constant stress
    can make people sick, and now a team of researchers has
    figured out how.

    A study focused on 119 men and women who were taking
    care of spouses with dementia. The health of the caregivers
    was compared with that of 106 people of similar ages who
    were not living under the stress of constant care giving.

    Blood tests showed that a chemical called Interleukin-6 sharply
    increased in the blood of the stressed caregivers compared with
    blood of the others in the test. Previous studies have associated
    IL-6 with several diseases, including heart disease, arthritis,
    osteoporosis, type-2 diabetes and certain cancers.

    The study also found the increase in IL-6 can linger in caregivers
    for as long as three years after a caregiver had ceased that role
    because of the spouse's death. Of the test group, 78 spouses
    died during the survey.

    "This really makes a link to why chronic stress can actually kill
    people," said Janice Kiecolt-Glaser, professor of psychology
    and psychiatry at Ohio State University. "We haven't had a
    good mechanism before."

    She explained that people under stress tend to respond by
    doing things that can increase their levels of IL-6.

    For example, they may smoke or overeat; smoking raises
    IL-6 levels, and the chemical is secreted by fat cells.
    Stressed people also may not get enough exercise or sleep,
    she added. Exercise reduces IL-6, she said, and normal sleep
    helps regulate levels of the chemical.

    It clearly points to the need to control stress better, she said.

    The findings by the research group, headed by Kiecolt-Glaser
    and her husband, Ronald Glaser, a professor of molecular
    virology, immunology and medical genetics at Ohio State,
    appear in this week's issue of Proceedings of the National
    Academy of Sciences.


    (© 2003 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This
    material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or
    redistributed. )

    http://wcbs880.com/siteSearch/health_story_181153905.html

    R&D Systems: IL-6
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    www.RnDSystems.com


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    PROGRAM


    HOWEDY professor SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM 'NO!' into
    ITS face and lock IT in a box for ten minutes reflection," dermer

    Re: Max--Vomiting, Lethargy, Discomfort, Fever -

    The Puppy Wizard's FREE TEN STEP DIAGNOSTIC / REHABILITATION
    PROGRAM

    "Marshall Dermer" <> wrote in message
    news:be06ls$j6i$...
    > Max has a new problem:
    >
    > Max is our 5.5 yr old, neutered Havanese with a history
    > of acute gastritis.


    The Puppy Wizard believes your dog's health problems
    are the physical manifestation of emotional distress.

    > Max is fed four times daily for otherwise he vomits.


    Ever consider it's your dysfunctional method of intimidating,
    punishing, forcing control, and mishandling him thru your
    preferred lunacy of duminance, intimidation, forced restraint,
    and your SCRUFF SHAKE???

    Your dog Maxie The Magnificent Masturbator has OCMD
    (obsessive compulsive masturbatory disorder), a dissasociative
    anxiety relief mechanism. It's his ONLY defense mechanism,
    bein as small as he is. The Puppy Wizard's GIANT breed dogs
    would simply SCRUFF SHAKE YOU, and BE DONE with their
    ANXIETY, as YOU DO HIM.

    > Max has had calcium oxalate uroliths removed about 9
    > months ago and now exclusively eats Hills Canine U/D,
    > plus rice cakes as treats.
    >


    INDEED. Bribing and withholding treats increases anxiety,
    which is restimulated every time the "command" he's been "taught"
    using withholding of bribes is requested, even many years into the
    future.

    > Max has had a history of "attacks" that occur about every
    > 30 days.


    Your little dog Maxie The Magnificent Masturbator has his
    DAILY ATTACKS of ANXIETY on any day you fail to expiate
    his ANXIETY thru five miles of bicycle chasing.

    IS THAT NOT SO, professor SCRUFF SHAKE?

    > Four attacks so far. He vomits, refuses food (but not
    > water), and then either becomes lethargic or moves
    > from position to position.


    SHOWENDS like the same same same same symptoms CHILDREN manifest,
    who DON'T WANT TO GO TO SCHOOL.

    > He often also develops a fever.


    HOWE HIGH is his fever? The Puppy Wizard KNOWS physical
    symptoms such as "idiopathic epilepsy" seizures, "undiagnosed"
    intestinal and digestive disorders, ALL OCD behaviors, endocrine
    malfunctions, and other PSYCHOSOMATIC disorders can and
    usually are, CAUSED BY STRESS.

    > The attack two days ago went as follows:
    > 1. He vomited at about 5:30 AM with nothing much in the vomit.
    >
    > 2. At about 9 AM I fed him a little rice ground chicken and
    > he vomited this.
    >
    > 3. By 8 PM his temp was 102.5.


    NORMAL temps are 101.5 - 102. THAT SUGGESTS to The
    Puppy Wizard that Maxie The Magnificent Masturbator's
    "FEVER" is PSYCHOSOMATIC, a result of non physical
    STRESS, as in the "Spike & Squirt" phenomena described
    in McProtection Training.

    > 4. By 10 PM he was hot to the touch, panting, and moving from
    > one position to another. He remained in a given position
    > for only a few minutes.


    Like HOWE a kid who's trying to get HOWET of goin to school
    today...

    > 5. By 3 PM the fever broke and he was resting comfortably.


    Like HOWE a kid who's SUCCEEDED at gettin HOWETA school today.

    > 6. The following day he was returning to his normal behavior.


    Like HOWE a kid who's SATISFIED at having got HOWETA school
    YESTERDAY.

    > 7. Two days, post attack, he is normal though he has loose,
    > orange stool. This has cleared up with time.


    These symptoms are COMMON, professor. The Puppy Wizard has SEEN
    EVIDENCE in the DEAD DOGS who've HAD NO SYMPTOMS while boarded at
    The Puppy Wizard's kennels PRYOR to being MISDIAGNOSED by "THE
    BEST" VETERINARY SPECIALISTS.

    SAME SAME as HOWER friend melanie chang has SEEN
    with her dog Solo, while she was on vacation and Solo had
    the BLISS of a NORMAL kennel ENVIRONMENT.

    > AFTER these attacks we have brought Max to the vet.


    KERCHING! KERCHING! KERCHING!

    > An x-ray revealed nothing.


    Well, it IS fortunate for the VET that you're able to afford such
    luxury on a professor's salary.

    > A month ago, a sonogram was conducted and his blood
    > was tested for one of the pancreatic enzymes (perhaps
    > amalayse). The enzyme test was negative.


    Well, as time endures and you continue to MISHANDLE him,
    the physical symptoms will likely continue to exacerbate,
    PROFESSOR.You'll get your "medical" findings, bye and bye,
    no dHOWEt.

    > On reading the sonograms, a veterinary radiologist was not
    > concerned about the sludge in Max's gall bladder but was
    > concerned that the pancreas had a "hot spot" and that the
    > walls of Max's stomach were thickened.


    The CONSTANT intermittent STRESS CAUSED BY MISHANDLING will break
    dHOWEn ANY organism.

    > The radiologist recommended biopsies of the stomach
    > wall and pancreas.
    >


    KERCHING! KERCHING! KERCHING!

    >
    > One month ago, when the sonogram was taken my vet
    > was reluctant to perform the biopsies. He recommended
    > putting Max on Pepcid AC daily.


    PERHAPS your vet "KNOWS" sumpthin The Puppy Wizard KNOWS,
    professor?

    > So that is what we did. About 2.5 gm every 8 hrs. Despite
    > the Pepcid AC Max had an attack two days ago.
    >

    PRECISELY. You cannot expect ANYTHING to override the
    constant restimulation of STRESS produced by INTIMIDATION.

    > Now my vet is suggesting exploratory surgery.
    >


    KERCHING! KERCHING! KERCHING!

    >
    > I've contacted Max's breeder for his parents produced about
    > a dozen puppies. The breeder is not aware of such a problem
    > with the other offspring.


    These and other OCD related behaviors can be duplicated EZ,
    professor.

    > My wife is reluctant to have the exploratory surgery performed.
    > I guess she wants to wait and see if Max has another attack.
    > (I feel so sorry for Max as he endures these attacks.)


    DO YOU NHOWE?
    >
    > Another approach is to bring Max in for a sonogram and
    > additional diagnostic work WHEN HE IS ACCUTE.


    KERCHING! KERCHING! KERCHING!

    > I talked to the local emergency veterinary clinic and a doctor
    > said that this is possible and it would be desirable for the
    > clinic to have Max's records so that the clinic does not repeat
    > tests.


    A WIZE idea, professor.

    > My own thought, if my wife would agree, is to have exploratory
    > surgery about two weeks after an attack.


    KERCHING! KERCHING! KERCHING!

    > Any other options or thoughts?


    INDEED, professor SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM 'NO!' into
    ITS face and lock IT in a box for ten minutes reflection," dermer.

    First and ONLY WON question is, DO YOU CRATE Maxie The
    Magnificent Masturbator? That could be the primary cause of
    his STRESS, as at the age of 5 years, he's unlikely to have
    any behavior problems which you have not SCRUFF SHAKEN
    HOWETA HIM.

    Crating RESTIMULATES and REINFORCES phobias, professor.
    You'll see EVIDENCE of THAT in Crystal Arcidy's reports on her
    FREE WWW Wits' End Trained dog Starr. See "Starry's Scary Night."

    The Puppy Wizard has a recommendation and an option which
    MIGHT resolve ALL HOWER problems, professor. The reason
    the suggestion is modified by MIGHT is, on accHOWEnt of The
    Puppy Wizard cannot control the environment if HE'S not there
    to SUPERVISE implementation of the TECHNIQUES HE offers
    you today.

    Here's HOWE to CURE Maxie's OCD behavior's and life threatening
    physical health dilemmas:

    First, STUDY your FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
    End Dog Training Method Manual.

    Second, CALL The Puppy Wizard with all members of Maxie's
    immediate family so we're ALL on the same page and NOBODY
    will CONFLICT with or STRESS him in ANY WAY.

    Third, STOP all BRIBES, CORRECTIONS, INTIMIDATION, CRATING, and
    discontinue excessive physical exercise to
    expiate his anxiety. We WANT his behavior problems to
    manifest SO WE CAN EXTINGUISH THEM.

    Fourth, The Puppy Wizard will LOAN you for FREE, HIS "AMAZING,
    MIRACULHOWES, INCREDIBLE" MAGNIFICENT Doggy Do Right (And Kitty
    Will And A Rooster Did And A Cockatoo Or Two Did Too) Machine, and
    YOU will AGREE to
    FOLLOW HIS INSTRUCTIONS.

    Fifth, you or any family member will call The Puppy Wizard
    IMMEDIATELY and relate details and ask advice for appupriately
    controlling EACH and EVERY instance of Maxie The Magnificent
    Masturbator's inappropriate puppy behavior problems, instead of
    tellin him "NO!" or otherWIZE negatively interacting with him.

    Sixth, you and each member of your immediate family pack will work
    five minutes every other day learning HOWE to expiate your dog
    Maxie The Magnificent Masturbator's anxiety thru the MAGICK of The
    Puppy Wizard's Four Step Heeling Pattern Exercise as articulated
    in your FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
    Training Method Manual, to TEACH Maxie there is NOTHING TO FEAR in
    MAKING MISTAKES.

    Seventh, at the end of thirty days, you will report HOWER
    findings to your veterinary, the head of your university
    department of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM, and to the Whole Wild
    World...

    Eighth, IN RETURN, you will have your dog Maxie The
    FORMER Magnificent Masturbator returned to EXCELLENT health, and
    The Puppy Wizard agrees to FORGIVE and FORGET ALL PAST
    INDISCRETIONS and SUBVERSIVE activities you've committed against
    The Puppy Wizard, dogs, and all mankind...

    Ninth, you will serve as EMISSARY and sever as EXPERT WITNESS for
    The Puppy Wizard and ENDORSE HIS METHODS and MACHINE as the WON
    true way to CURE ALL animal and child behavior problems and bring
    PEACE, HEALTH, and PROSPERITY to the Whole Wild World.

    Tenth, IF YOU FAIL to succeed after your thirty day EXPERIMENT,
    you'll agree to ship Maxie The Magnificent Masturbator TO The
    Puppy Wizard at HIS EXPENSE, for a
    two week stay FOR FREE, to PERFORM THE MAGICK HISSELF.

    > Thanks,


    It don't get no goddamned better than THAT, professor.

    > --Marshall


    Thank you,
    Jerry Howe,
    Director of Research,
    BIOSOUND Scientific
    Director of Training,
    Wits' End Dog Training
    1611 24th St
    Orlando, FL 32805
    Phone: 1-407-425-5092
    Phone: 1-888-BIOSOUND (1-888-246-7686)
    Phone: 1-888-WITSEND (1-888-948-7363)
    http://www.doggydoright.com

    The Puppy Wizard. <}TPW ; ~ ) >

    ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?
    ,-._,-,
    V)"(V
    (_o_) Have a great day!
    / V)
    (l l l) Your Puppy Wizzzard. <}YPW ; ~ } >
    oo-oo
     
    The Puppy Wizard, Sep 28, 2003
    #5
  6. Jane Fondle

    Browntimdc Guest

    I just want to point out to you that Jane Fondle aka Monica Krowley aka
    Sexy Susan is not the person you would want as a spokesperson to promote
    The Puppy Wizard. This person is a prolific abuser of the USENET system.
    A Google search will bear this out.

    Tim Brown


    "The Puppy Wizard" <> wrote in
    news:uUudb.29463$:

    > HOWEDY Jane,
    >
    > "Jane Fondle" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >>
    >> Jerry, how have you been.

    >
    > EXCELLENT, thank you.
    >
    >> I used your training manual on my beagle

    >
    > EXCELLENT, thank you.
    >
     
    Browntimdc, Oct 1, 2003
    #6
  7. HOWEDY Tim,

    "Browntimdc" <browntR*E*M*O*V*> wrote in message
    news:Xns94076A26359D4tbflash@207.115.63.158...
    >
    > I just want to point out to you that Jane Fondle aka Monica

    Krowley aka
    > Sexy Susan is not the person you would want as a spokesperson to

    promote
    > The Puppy Wizard.


    Thanks for the heads up!

    > This person is a prolific abuser of the USENET system.


    Oh? HOWE is her record of CREDIBILITY?

    > A Google search will bear this out.


    INDEEDY, she seems to prefer strong suggestive language,
    but likeWIZE dosen't seem tolerant of animal abuse.

    > Tim Brown


    Can you tell a truth from a lie?

    CHOWENT HOWE many LIES are in the following QUOTES
    from HOWER RESPECTED DOG LOVERS:


    > > > Jerome Bigge writes:
    > > > I do know that hitting, hurting
    > > > your dog will often make the
    > > > dog either aggressive or a fear
    > > > biter, neither of which we want to do.


    And then we got, matty! Follow his discussion!
    This is what's called, a liar and dog abuser:

    > > And neither does anyone else,
    > > Jerome. No matter
    > > what Jerry Howe states.


    "Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
    Dealing With This I've Suggested It To Quite
    A Few Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY
    TIME The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer,
    33 Years Experience.

    You DO remember KILLFILING MARILYN for her coment above
    regarding her success with The Puppy Wizard's Surrogate Toy
    Separation Anxiety / Bed Time Calming Technique (STSA/BTCT)?

    Perhaps you likeWIZE recall a pediatrician, Dr. Z, who commented
    that his bed time calming technique was quite similar?

    > > You're scary Marilyn.


    > > Marilyn must be quite a disturbed
    > > individual. I feel very sorry for her
    > > and her family.


    "His Amazing Progress Almost Makes Me Cry.
    Your Method Takes Positive Training To The
    Next Level And Should Really Be Used By All
    Trainers Who Call Themselves Trainers. Thank
    You For Helping Me Save His Life," Kay Pierce,
    Professional Trainer, 30 Years Experience.

    > > BUT, giving you the benefit of the
    > > doubt, please provide a quote (an
    > > original quote, not from one of Jerry
    > > Howe's heavily edited diatribes) that
    > > shows a regular poster promoting or
    > > using an abusive form of training.


    BWWWWEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

    > > --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.


    "Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
    Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
    Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
    Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
    The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
    mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.

    You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
    MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???

    "Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
    A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
    Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
    Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
    Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.

    You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
    SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
    is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?

    "Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
    Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
    Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
    But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:
    "Courteous Canine."

    You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING
    is COURTEOUS?

    "I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load
    your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently
    as possible. What does this mean?"

    Means the author is a dog abuser of the worst magnitude.

    "When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first time, spray
    one squirt
    directly into the dog's mouth and walk away. The dog won't be too
    thrilled
    with this but just ignore him and continue your normal behavior."

    You think HURTING your dog is NORMAL BEHAVIOR?

    --Mike Dufort
    author of the zero selling book
    "Courteous Canines"

    You think HOWER pal mikey is playin with a full deck?

    Yeah. When I preload my dog's mouth with bitter apple,
    suppose I don't get used to being stupid and cruel, mikey?

    Then HOWE do I train my dog if I can't HURT it?

    "I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm Over The Lab's Shoulder,
    Grabbed
    Her Opposite Foot With My Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her Side,
    Leaned On Her,
    Smartly Growled Into Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!" And Neatly
    Nipped Her
    Ear," sionnach.

    Oh, THANKS, sinofabitch...

    And from terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
    "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is
    something you twisted out of context,
    because you are full of bizarro manure."

    "Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a
    helper wield the stick, or do it yourself.
    Tougher, less tractable dogs may require
    you to progress to striking them more
    sharply," lying frosty dahl, ethical breeder,
    expert trainer.

    You think a EXXXPERT trainer got to BEAT
    a HUNTIN dog to MAKE IT HUNT?

    "Pudge Was So Soft That She Could And
    Would Avoid A Simple Swat On The Rump
    With A Riding Crop," lying frosty dahl,
    discoverer of CANNIBALISM in Labradors.

    Perhaps the mom dog didn't want her babies HURT all
    their lives like HOWE HOWER dog lovers PREFER to
    HURT THEIR DOGS?

    "John ran out, grabbed Blackie by the collar, and
    gave the dog two or three medium whacks on the
    rump with a training stick while holding him partially
    off the ground. John then told Blackie to sit, ran back
    to the line and cast him back to the dummies."

    The Puppy Wizard sez a mom dog eatin her babies
    to SAVE THEM from a fate like that, is COMMENDABLE.

    We're gonna teach folks THAT AIN'T NORMAL...

    terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
    "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
    things is something you twisted out of
    context, because you are full of bizarro
    manure."

    Sez on our FAQ'S pages at K9 Web you should knee the dog in the
    chest, step
    on its toes, throw him down by his ears and climb all over it like
    a raped
    ape growling into his throat and bite IT on his ears, or leash pop
    it on a
    pronged spiked pinch choke collar or pop him in the snout with the
    heel of
    your palm.

    "BethF" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > "Frank" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > URK-OFF (Leah) wrote in message

    news:<>...
    > > > >"brianev" wrote:
    > > > > I ENJOYED reading your book, and
    > > > > AGREED with what you had to say.
    > > > > I find it sick to hear what people
    > > > > do with their dogs.
    > > > Keep in mind that everything he says that
    > > > the regular posters of this ng do to their
    > > > dogs are lies.
    > > > All of it. Every last bit.

    > > All of it?
    > > Ear pinching?
    > > Shock collars?
    > > Spiked chokers?
    > > The regulars lie more in their denials than
    > > Howe does in his accusing of them.

    :
    > Uh, Frank? Who do you see denying anything?
    > Its quite interesting that a newbie like yourself
    > would see denials when everyone has Jerry
    > killfiled and therefore don't even read his posts,
    > let alone respond to them.


    "Rocky" <> wrote in message
    news:Xns92FEEC097E4AAaustralianshepherdca@130.133.1.4...

    > Linda wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:


    > > When you compare using sound and
    > > praise to solve a problem with using
    > > shock collars, hanging, and punishment
    > > how can you criticize the use of sound?


    > There's nothing more to be said, then.
    > You've made up your mind.


    > But you've impressed me by mentioning
    > that you're a professor with 30 years of
    > experience.


    > So, can you cite some examples of
    > people recommending "shock collars,
    > hanging, and punishment"?


    BWWWAWHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

    > --
    > --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.


    You think matty's playin with a full
    goddamned deck?

    matty's NOT a liar and dog abuser.

    Isn't that true, Marilyn?

    Of course not, but THIS IS:

    "Chin CHUCK absolutely doesn't mean slap,"
    professora gingold.

    "Marshall Dermer" <> wrote in message
    news:a3h5qn$mra$...

    > >Di,


    > I don't believe you mentioned a particular
    > kind of training. If you are interested in
    > training retrieval behavior than do
    > consider our own Amy Dahl's:


    > The 10-Minute Retriever : How to Make a
    > Well-Mannered, Obedient and
    > Enthusiastic Gun Dog in 10 Minutes a
    > Day by John I. Dahl, Amy Dahl


    You failed to mention your pals the dahls are
    proven liars and dog abusers, professor "SCRUFF SHAKE:"

    "I Would Never Advise Anyone To Slap A
    Dog I Do Not Believe There Is A Single
    Circumstance Ever, Where Slapping A
    Dog Is Anything But Destructive,"

    LUCKY thing CHIN CHUCK absolutely don't
    mean slap the goddamned dog, we'd look like
    a conspiracy of LIARS and DOG abusers if
    CHIN CHUCK DID mean SLAP the dog.

    "I don't see why anyone would want to choke or
    beat a dog, or how any trainer could possibly get
    a good working dog by making them unhapper,
    fearful, cowering, etc." sez amy lying frosty dahl.

    DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THE TRUTH?

    > just $17.95 at Amazon.com.


    > (Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
    > few regulars here who are either ill-
    > tempered, ill-mannered, or just plain ill.)
    > --Marshall


    Or HOWE about HOWER just plain CRUEL
    STUPID and ABUSIVE DOG ABUSERS,
    professor SCRUFF SHAKE?

    amy lying frosty dahl continues:

    "On the other extreme, the really hard dogs
    we have trained require much more
    frequent and heavy application of pressure
    (PAIN j.h.) to get the job done,

    This is continued resistance to your
    increasing authority, and the job is
    not done until it is overcome

    Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper
    wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher,
    less tractable dogs may require you to
    progress to striking them more sharply"

    BUT NOBODY DOES THAT HERE...

    "Try pinching the ear between the metal
    casing and the collar, even the buckle on
    the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will
    give in but will squeal, thrash around, and
    direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch"

    OR ATTACKING HIS ABUSER.

    "You can press the dog's ear with a
    shotshell instead of your thumb even
    get a studded collar and pinch the ear
    against that Make the dog's need to stop
    the pinching so urgent that resisting your
    will fades in importance.

    CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever
    Ready Right Hand, As it catches on, try
    using the stick and no ear pinch.

    When the dog is digging out to beat the
    stick and seems totally reliable without
    any ear pinch, you are finished

    This is continued resistance to your
    increasing authority, and the job is
    not done until it is overcome"

    If the dog drops it, chuck it solidly
    under the chin, say "No! Hold!"

    (stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps
    because the ear is getting tender, or the
    dog has decided it isn't worth it)" lying
    frosty dahl.

    "Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap,"
    professora gingold.

    From: Marshall Dermer ()
    In article <>
    writes:

    >> -snip headers etc.


    >> Yes. you're right, I really should find
    >> the book.. they don't have these books
    >> in the local pet stores I frequent, where
    >> do you find Koehler?


    > I got a nice large print copy from
    > Amazon.com


    >Richard


    Please try Powell's Books in Portland
    Oregon. Their URL is:

    http://www.powells.com/

    Unlike Amazon.com, Powell's keeps both
    new and used books on its shelves. You
    can order books via e-email.

    Koehler Method Of Dog
    Training
    by Koehler, W R
    Published by HOWELL BOOK
    HOUSE (0876056575,

    ========================================================

    Here's some quotes and some methods right
    outta your koehler book professor "SCRUFF SHAKE and scream "NO!"
    into its
    face for 5
    seconds:"

    "The Koehler Method of Dog Training (1962). New York:
    Howell Book Book House(p. 52-53)."

    Hanging

    "First, the trainer makes certain that the collar
    and leash are more than adequate for any jerk
    or strain that the dog's most frantic actions could cause. Then
    he starts
    to work the dog deliberately and fairly to the point where the dog
    makes his
    grab.

    Before the teeth have reached their target,
    the dog, weight permitting, is jerked from
    the ground.

    As in coping with some of the afore-mentioned problems the dog is
    suspended
    in mid-air.

    However, to let the biting dog recover
    his footing while he still had the strength
    to renew the attack would be cruelty.

    The only justifiable course is to hold him
    suspended until he has neither the strength
    nor inclination to renew the fight.

    When finally it is obvious that he is
    physically incapable of expressing his
    resentment and is lowered to the ground,
    he will probably stagger loop-legged for a
    few steps, vomit once or twice, and roll
    over on his side.

    The sight of a dog lying, thick-tongued,
    on his side, is not pleasant, but do not
    let it alarm you

    THE REAL "HOOD"

    "If your dog is a real "hood" who would
    regard the foregoing types of protest as
    "kid stuff" and would express his
    resentment of your efforts by biting,
    your problem is difficult -- and pressing.

    "Professional trainers often get these
    extreme problems. Nearly always the
    "protest biter" is the handiwork of a
    person who, by avoiding situations that
    the dog might resent, has nurtured the
    seeds of rebellion and then cultivated
    the resultant growth with under correction.

    When these people reap their inevitable
    and oftentimes painful harvest, they are
    ready to avail themselves of "the cruel
    trainer" whose advice they may have
    once rejected because it was incompatible
    with the sugary droolings of mealy-
    mouthed columnists, breed-ring biddies,
    and dog psychologists who, by the
    broken skins and broken hearts their
    misinformation causes, can be proven guilty
    of the greatest act of cruelty to animals
    since the dawn of time.

    "With more genuine compassion for the
    biting dog than would ever be demonstrated
    by those who are "too kind" to make a
    correction and certainly with more disregard
    for his safety, the professional trainer
    morally feels obligated to perform a "major
    operation."

    "Since we are presently concerned with
    the dog that bites in resentment of the
    demands of training, we will set our
    example in that situation. (In a later
    chapter we will deal with the with the
    much easier problem of the dog that
    bites someone other than his master."

    Are we havin FUN yet?

    Got a lite, professor SCRUFF SHAKE?
     
    The Puppy Wizard, Oct 1, 2003
    #7
  8. Jane Fondle

    George Kerby Guest

    On 10/1/03 11:20 AM, in article
    W8Deb.910$, "The Puppy Wizard"
    <> wrote:

    > HOWEDY Tim,
    >
    > "Browntimdc" <browntR*E*M*O*V*> wrote in message
    > news:Xns94076A26359D4tbflash@207.115.63.158...
    >>
    >> I just want to point out to you that Jane Fondle aka Monica

    > Krowley aka
    >> Sexy Susan is not the person you would want as a spokesperson to

    > promote
    >> The Puppy Wizard.

    >
    > Thanks for the heads up!
    >
    >> This person is a prolific abuser of the USENET system.

    >
    > Oh? HOWE is her record of CREDIBILITY?
    >
    >> A Google search will bear this out.

    >
    > INDEEDY, she seems to prefer strong suggestive language,
    > but likeWIZE dosen't seem tolerant of animal abuse.
    >
    >> Tim Brown

    >
    > Can you tell a truth from a lie?
    >
    > CHOWENT HOWE many LIES are in the following QUOTES
    > from HOWER RESPECTED DOG LOVERS:
    >
    >
    >>>> Jerome Bigge writes:
    >>>> I do know that hitting, hurting
    >>>> your dog will often make the
    >>>> dog either aggressive or a fear
    >>>> biter, neither of which we want to do.

    >
    > And then we got, matty! Follow his discussion!
    > This is what's called, a liar and dog abuser:
    >
    >>> And neither does anyone else,
    >>> Jerome. No matter
    >>> what Jerry Howe states.

    >
    > "Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
    > Dealing With This I've Suggested It To Quite
    > A Few Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY
    > TIME The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer,
    > 33 Years Experience.
    >
    > You DO remember KILLFILING MARILYN for her coment above
    > regarding her success with The Puppy Wizard's Surrogate Toy
    > Separation Anxiety / Bed Time Calming Technique (STSA/BTCT)?
    >
    > Perhaps you likeWIZE recall a pediatrician, Dr. Z, who commented
    > that his bed time calming technique was quite similar?
    >
    >>> You're scary Marilyn.

    >
    >>> Marilyn must be quite a disturbed
    >>> individual. I feel very sorry for her
    >>> and her family.

    >
    > "His Amazing Progress Almost Makes Me Cry.
    > Your Method Takes Positive Training To The
    > Next Level And Should Really Be Used By All
    > Trainers Who Call Themselves Trainers. Thank
    > You For Helping Me Save His Life," Kay Pierce,
    > Professional Trainer, 30 Years Experience.
    >
    >>> BUT, giving you the benefit of the
    >>> doubt, please provide a quote (an
    >>> original quote, not from one of Jerry
    >>> Howe's heavily edited diatribes) that
    >>> shows a regular poster promoting or
    >>> using an abusive form of training.

    >
    > BWWWWEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
    >
    >>> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

    >
    > "Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
    > Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
    > Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
    > Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
    > The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
    > mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.
    >
    > You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
    > MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???
    >
    > "Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
    > A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
    > Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
    > Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
    > Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.
    >
    > You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
    > SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
    > is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?
    >
    > "Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
    > Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
    > Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
    > But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:
    > "Courteous Canine."
    >
    > You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING
    > is COURTEOUS?
    >
    > "I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load
    > your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently
    > as possible. What does this mean?"
    >
    > Means the author is a dog abuser of the worst magnitude.
    >
    > "When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first time, spray
    > one squirt
    > directly into the dog's mouth and walk away. The dog won't be too
    > thrilled
    > with this but just ignore him and continue your normal behavior."
    >
    > You think HURTING your dog is NORMAL BEHAVIOR?
    >
    > --Mike Dufort
    > author of the zero selling book
    > "Courteous Canines"
    >
    > You think HOWER pal mikey is playin with a full deck?
    >
    > Yeah. When I preload my dog's mouth with bitter apple,
    > suppose I don't get used to being stupid and cruel, mikey?
    >
    > Then HOWE do I train my dog if I can't HURT it?
    >
    > "I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm Over The Lab's Shoulder,
    > Grabbed
    > Her Opposite Foot With My Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her Side,
    > Leaned On Her,
    > Smartly Growled Into Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!" And Neatly
    > Nipped Her
    > Ear," sionnach.
    >
    > Oh, THANKS, sinofabitch...
    >
    > And from terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
    > "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is
    > something you twisted out of context,
    > because you are full of bizarro manure."
    >
    > "Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a
    > helper wield the stick, or do it yourself.
    > Tougher, less tractable dogs may require
    > you to progress to striking them more
    > sharply," lying frosty dahl, ethical breeder,
    > expert trainer.
    >
    > You think a EXXXPERT trainer got to BEAT
    > a HUNTIN dog to MAKE IT HUNT?
    >
    > "Pudge Was So Soft That She Could And
    > Would Avoid A Simple Swat On The Rump
    > With A Riding Crop," lying frosty dahl,
    > discoverer of CANNIBALISM in Labradors.
    >
    > Perhaps the mom dog didn't want her babies HURT all
    > their lives like HOWE HOWER dog lovers PREFER to
    > HURT THEIR DOGS?
    >
    > "John ran out, grabbed Blackie by the collar, and
    > gave the dog two or three medium whacks on the
    > rump with a training stick while holding him partially
    > off the ground. John then told Blackie to sit, ran back
    > to the line and cast him back to the dummies."
    >
    > The Puppy Wizard sez a mom dog eatin her babies
    > to SAVE THEM from a fate like that, is COMMENDABLE.
    >
    > We're gonna teach folks THAT AIN'T NORMAL...
    >
    > terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
    > "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
    > things is something you twisted out of
    > context, because you are full of bizarro
    > manure."
    >
    > Sez on our FAQ'S pages at K9 Web you should knee the dog in the
    > chest, step
    > on its toes, throw him down by his ears and climb all over it like
    > a raped
    > ape growling into his throat and bite IT on his ears, or leash pop
    > it on a
    > pronged spiked pinch choke collar or pop him in the snout with the
    > heel of
    > your palm.
    >
    > "BethF" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >>
    >> "Frank" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>> URK-OFF (Leah) wrote in message

    > news:<>...
    >>>>> "brianev" wrote:
    >>>>> I ENJOYED reading your book, and
    >>>>> AGREED with what you had to say.
    >>>>> I find it sick to hear what people
    >>>>> do with their dogs.
    >>>> Keep in mind that everything he says that
    >>>> the regular posters of this ng do to their
    >>>> dogs are lies.
    >>>> All of it. Every last bit.
    >>> All of it?
    >>> Ear pinching?
    >>> Shock collars?
    >>> Spiked chokers?
    >>> The regulars lie more in their denials than
    >>> Howe does in his accusing of them.

    > :
    >> Uh, Frank? Who do you see denying anything?
    >> Its quite interesting that a newbie like yourself
    >> would see denials when everyone has Jerry
    >> killfiled and therefore don't even read his posts,
    >> let alone respond to them.

    >
    > "Rocky" <> wrote in message
    > news:Xns92FEEC097E4AAaustralianshepherdca@130.133.1.4...
    >
    >> Linda wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

    >
    >>> When you compare using sound and
    >>> praise to solve a problem with using
    >>> shock collars, hanging, and punishment
    >>> how can you criticize the use of sound?

    >
    >> There's nothing more to be said, then.
    >> You've made up your mind.

    >
    >> But you've impressed me by mentioning
    >> that you're a professor with 30 years of
    >> experience.

    >
    >> So, can you cite some examples of
    >> people recommending "shock collars,
    >> hanging, and punishment"?

    >
    > BWWWAWHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
    >
    >> --
    >> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

    >
    > You think matty's playin with a full
    > goddamned deck?
    >
    > matty's NOT a liar and dog abuser.
    >
    > Isn't that true, Marilyn?
    >
    > Of course not, but THIS IS:
    >
    > "Chin CHUCK absolutely doesn't mean slap,"
    > professora gingold.
    >
    > "Marshall Dermer" <> wrote in message
    > news:a3h5qn$mra$...
    >
    >>> Di,

    >
    >> I don't believe you mentioned a particular
    >> kind of training. If you are interested in
    >> training retrieval behavior than do
    >> consider our own Amy Dahl's:

    >
    >> The 10-Minute Retriever : How to Make a
    >> Well-Mannered, Obedient and
    >> Enthusiastic Gun Dog in 10 Minutes a
    >> Day by John I. Dahl, Amy Dahl

    >
    > You failed to mention your pals the dahls are
    > proven liars and dog abusers, professor "SCRUFF SHAKE:"
    >
    > "I Would Never Advise Anyone To Slap A
    > Dog I Do Not Believe There Is A Single
    > Circumstance Ever, Where Slapping A
    > Dog Is Anything But Destructive,"
    >
    > LUCKY thing CHIN CHUCK absolutely don't
    > mean slap the goddamned dog, we'd look like
    > a conspiracy of LIARS and DOG abusers if
    > CHIN CHUCK DID mean SLAP the dog.
    >
    > "I don't see why anyone would want to choke or
    > beat a dog, or how any trainer could possibly get
    > a good working dog by making them unhapper,
    > fearful, cowering, etc." sez amy lying frosty dahl.
    >
    > DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THE TRUTH?
    >
    >> just $17.95 at Amazon.com.

    >
    >> (Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
    >> few regulars here who are either ill-
    >> tempered, ill-mannered, or just plain ill.)
    >> --Marshall

    >
    > Or HOWE about HOWER just plain CRUEL
    > STUPID and ABUSIVE DOG ABUSERS,
    > professor SCRUFF SHAKE?
    >
    > amy lying frosty dahl continues:
    >
    > "On the other extreme, the really hard dogs
    > we have trained require much more
    > frequent and heavy application of pressure
    > (PAIN j.h.) to get the job done,
    >
    > This is continued resistance to your
    > increasing authority, and the job is
    > not done until it is overcome
    >
    > Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper
    > wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher,
    > less tractable dogs may require you to
    > progress to striking them more sharply"
    >
    > BUT NOBODY DOES THAT HERE...
    >
    > "Try pinching the ear between the metal
    > casing and the collar, even the buckle on
    > the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will
    > give in but will squeal, thrash around, and
    > direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch"
    >
    > OR ATTACKING HIS ABUSER.
    >
    > "You can press the dog's ear with a
    > shotshell instead of your thumb even
    > get a studded collar and pinch the ear
    > against that Make the dog's need to stop
    > the pinching so urgent that resisting your
    > will fades in importance.
    >
    > CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever
    > Ready Right Hand, As it catches on, try
    > using the stick and no ear pinch.
    >
    > When the dog is digging out to beat the
    > stick and seems totally reliable without
    > any ear pinch, you are finished
    >
    > This is continued resistance to your
    > increasing authority, and the job is
    > not done until it is overcome"
    >
    > If the dog drops it, chuck it solidly
    > under the chin, say "No! Hold!"
    >
    > (stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps
    > because the ear is getting tender, or the
    > dog has decided it isn't worth it)" lying
    > frosty dahl.
    >
    > "Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap,"
    > professora gingold.
    >
    > From: Marshall Dermer ()
    > In article <>
    > writes:
    >
    >>> -snip headers etc.

    >
    >>> Yes. you're right, I really should find
    >>> the book.. they don't have these books
    >>> in the local pet stores I frequent, where
    >>> do you find Koehler?

    >
    >> I got a nice large print copy from
    >> Amazon.com

    >
    >> Richard

    >
    > Please try Powell's Books in Portland
    > Oregon. Their URL is:
    >
    > http://www.powells.com/
    >
    > Unlike Amazon.com, Powell's keeps both
    > new and used books on its shelves. You
    > can order books via e-email.
    >
    > Koehler Method Of Dog
    > Training
    > by Koehler, W R
    > Published by HOWELL BOOK
    > HOUSE (0876056575,
    >
    > ========================================================
    >
    > Here's some quotes and some methods right
    > outta your koehler book professor "SCRUFF SHAKE and scream "NO!"
    > into its
    > face for 5
    > seconds:"
    >
    > "The Koehler Method of Dog Training (1962). New York:
    > Howell Book Book House(p. 52-53)."
    >
    > Hanging
    >
    > "First, the trainer makes certain that the collar
    > and leash are more than adequate for any jerk
    > or strain that the dog's most frantic actions could cause. Then
    > he starts
    > to work the dog deliberately and fairly to the point where the dog
    > makes his
    > grab.
    >
    > Before the teeth have reached their target,
    > the dog, weight permitting, is jerked from
    > the ground.
    >
    > As in coping with some of the afore-mentioned problems the dog is
    > suspended
    > in mid-air.
    >
    > However, to let the biting dog recover
    > his footing while he still had the strength
    > to renew the attack would be cruelty.
    >
    > The only justifiable course is to hold him
    > suspended until he has neither the strength
    > nor inclination to renew the fight.
    >
    > When finally it is obvious that he is
    > physically incapable of expressing his
    > resentment and is lowered to the ground,
    > he will probably stagger loop-legged for a
    > few steps, vomit once or twice, and roll
    > over on his side.
    >
    > The sight of a dog lying, thick-tongued,
    > on his side, is not pleasant, but do not
    > let it alarm you
    >
    > THE REAL "HOOD"
    >
    > "If your dog is a real "hood" who would
    > regard the foregoing types of protest as
    > "kid stuff" and would express his
    > resentment of your efforts by biting,
    > your problem is difficult -- and pressing.
    >
    > "Professional trainers often get these
    > extreme problems. Nearly always the
    > "protest biter" is the handiwork of a
    > person who, by avoiding situations that
    > the dog might resent, has nurtured the
    > seeds of rebellion and then cultivated
    > the resultant growth with under correction.
    >
    > When these people reap their inevitable
    > and oftentimes painful harvest, they are
    > ready to avail themselves of "the cruel
    > trainer" whose advice they may have
    > once rejected because it was incompatible
    > with the sugary droolings of mealy-
    > mouthed columnists, breed-ring biddies,
    > and dog psychologists who, by the
    > broken skins and broken hearts their
    > misinformation causes, can be proven guilty
    > of the greatest act of cruelty to animals
    > since the dawn of time.
    >
    > "With more genuine compassion for the
    > biting dog than would ever be demonstrated
    > by those who are "too kind" to make a
    > correction and certainly with more disregard
    > for his safety, the professional trainer
    > morally feels obligated to perform a "major
    > operation."
    >
    > "Since we are presently concerned with
    > the dog that bites in resentment of the
    > demands of training, we will set our
    > example in that situation. (In a later
    > chapter we will deal with the with the
    > much easier problem of the dog that
    > bites someone other than his master."
    >
    > Are we havin FUN yet?
    >
    > Got a lite, professor SCRUFF SHAKE?
    >
    >

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    #8
  9. HOWEDY George Kerby,

    Let's talk abHOWET abuse, shall we?

    "George Kerby" <> wrote in message
    news:BBA0707D.12440%...
    > On 10/1/03 11:20 AM, in article
    > W8Deb.910$, "The Puppy

    Wizard"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    > > HOWEDY Tim,
    > >
    > > "Browntimdc" <browntR*E*M*O*V*> wrote in message
    > > news:Xns94076A26359D4tbflash@207.115.63.158...
    > >>
    > >> I just want to point out to you that Jane Fondle aka Monica

    > > Krowley aka
    > >> Sexy Susan is not the person you would want as a spokesperson

    to
    > > promote
    > >> The Puppy Wizard.

    > >
    > > Thanks for the heads up!
    > >
    > >> This person is a prolific abuser of the USENET system.

    > >
    > > Oh? HOWE is her record of CREDIBILITY?
    > >
    > >> A Google search will bear this out.

    > >
    > > INDEEDY, she seems to prefer strong suggestive language,
    > > but likeWIZE dosen't seem tolerant of animal abuse.
    > >
    > >> Tim Brown

    > >
    > > Can you tell a truth from a lie?
    > >
    > > CHOWENT HOWE many LIES are in the following QUOTES
    > > from HOWER RESPECTED DOG LOVERS:
    > >
    > >
    > >>>> Jerome Bigge writes:
    > >>>> I do know that hitting, hurting
    > >>>> your dog will often make the
    > >>>> dog either aggressive or a fear
    > >>>> biter, neither of which we want to do.

    > >
    > > And then we got, matty! Follow his discussion!
    > > This is what's called, a liar and dog abuser:
    > >
    > >>> And neither does anyone else,
    > >>> Jerome. No matter
    > >>> what Jerry Howe states.

    > >
    > > "Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
    > > Dealing With This I've Suggested It To Quite
    > > A Few Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY
    > > TIME The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer,
    > > 33 Years Experience.
    > >
    > > You DO remember KILLFILING MARILYN for her coment above
    > > regarding her success with The Puppy Wizard's Surrogate Toy
    > > Separation Anxiety / Bed Time Calming Technique (STSA/BTCT)?
    > >
    > > Perhaps you likeWIZE recall a pediatrician, Dr. Z, who

    commented
    > > that his bed time calming technique was quite similar?
    > >
    > >>> You're scary Marilyn.

    > >
    > >>> Marilyn must be quite a disturbed
    > >>> individual. I feel very sorry for her
    > >>> and her family.

    > >
    > > "His Amazing Progress Almost Makes Me Cry.
    > > Your Method Takes Positive Training To The
    > > Next Level And Should Really Be Used By All
    > > Trainers Who Call Themselves Trainers. Thank
    > > You For Helping Me Save His Life," Kay Pierce,
    > > Professional Trainer, 30 Years Experience.
    > >
    > >>> BUT, giving you the benefit of the
    > >>> doubt, please provide a quote (an
    > >>> original quote, not from one of Jerry
    > >>> Howe's heavily edited diatribes) that
    > >>> shows a regular poster promoting or
    > >>> using an abusive form of training.

    > >
    > > BWWWWEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
    > >
    > >>> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

    > >
    > > "Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
    > > Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
    > > Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
    > > Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
    > > The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
    > > mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.
    > >
    > > You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
    > > MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???
    > >
    > > "Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
    > > A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
    > > Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
    > > Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
    > > Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.
    > >
    > > You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
    > > SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
    > > is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?
    > >
    > > "Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
    > > Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
    > > Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
    > > But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:
    > > "Courteous Canine."
    > >
    > > You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING
    > > is COURTEOUS?
    > >
    > > "I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load
    > > your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently
    > > as possible. What does this mean?"
    > >
    > > Means the author is a dog abuser of the worst magnitude.
    > >
    > > "When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first time,

    spray
    > > one squirt
    > > directly into the dog's mouth and walk away. The dog won't be

    too
    > > thrilled
    > > with this but just ignore him and continue your normal

    behavior."
    > >
    > > You think HURTING your dog is NORMAL BEHAVIOR?
    > >
    > > --Mike Dufort
    > > author of the zero selling book
    > > "Courteous Canines"
    > >
    > > You think HOWER pal mikey is playin with a full deck?
    > >
    > > Yeah. When I preload my dog's mouth with bitter apple,
    > > suppose I don't get used to being stupid and cruel, mikey?
    > >
    > > Then HOWE do I train my dog if I can't HURT it?
    > >
    > > "I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm Over The Lab's

    Shoulder,
    > > Grabbed
    > > Her Opposite Foot With My Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her Side,
    > > Leaned On Her,
    > > Smartly Growled Into Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!" And Neatly
    > > Nipped Her
    > > Ear," sionnach.
    > >
    > > Oh, THANKS, sinofabitch...
    > >
    > > And from terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
    > > "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is
    > > something you twisted out of context,
    > > because you are full of bizarro manure."
    > >
    > > "Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a
    > > helper wield the stick, or do it yourself.
    > > Tougher, less tractable dogs may require
    > > you to progress to striking them more
    > > sharply," lying frosty dahl, ethical breeder,
    > > expert trainer.
    > >
    > > You think a EXXXPERT trainer got to BEAT
    > > a HUNTIN dog to MAKE IT HUNT?
    > >
    > > "Pudge Was So Soft That She Could And
    > > Would Avoid A Simple Swat On The Rump
    > > With A Riding Crop," lying frosty dahl,
    > > discoverer of CANNIBALISM in Labradors.
    > >
    > > Perhaps the mom dog didn't want her babies HURT all
    > > their lives like HOWE HOWER dog lovers PREFER to
    > > HURT THEIR DOGS?
    > >
    > > "John ran out, grabbed Blackie by the collar, and
    > > gave the dog two or three medium whacks on the
    > > rump with a training stick while holding him partially
    > > off the ground. John then told Blackie to sit, ran back
    > > to the line and cast him back to the dummies."
    > >
    > > The Puppy Wizard sez a mom dog eatin her babies
    > > to SAVE THEM from a fate like that, is COMMENDABLE.
    > >
    > > We're gonna teach folks THAT AIN'T NORMAL...
    > >
    > > terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
    > > "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
    > > things is something you twisted out of
    > > context, because you are full of bizarro
    > > manure."
    > >
    > > Sez on our FAQ'S pages at K9 Web you should knee the dog in

    the
    > > chest, step
    > > on its toes, throw him down by his ears and climb all over it

    like
    > > a raped
    > > ape growling into his throat and bite IT on his ears, or leash

    pop
    > > it on a
    > > pronged spiked pinch choke collar or pop him in the snout with

    the
    > > heel of
    > > your palm.
    > >
    > > "BethF" <> wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > >>
    > >> "Frank" <> wrote in message
    > >> news:...
    > >>> URK-OFF (Leah) wrote in message

    > > news:<>...
    > >>>>> "brianev" wrote:
    > >>>>> I ENJOYED reading your book, and
    > >>>>> AGREED with what you had to say.
    > >>>>> I find it sick to hear what people
    > >>>>> do with their dogs.
    > >>>> Keep in mind that everything he says that
    > >>>> the regular posters of this ng do to their
    > >>>> dogs are lies.
    > >>>> All of it. Every last bit.
    > >>> All of it?
    > >>> Ear pinching?
    > >>> Shock collars?
    > >>> Spiked chokers?
    > >>> The regulars lie more in their denials than
    > >>> Howe does in his accusing of them.

    > > :
    > >> Uh, Frank? Who do you see denying anything?
    > >> Its quite interesting that a newbie like yourself
    > >> would see denials when everyone has Jerry
    > >> killfiled and therefore don't even read his posts,
    > >> let alone respond to them.

    > >
    > > "Rocky" <> wrote in message
    > > news:Xns92FEEC097E4AAaustralianshepherdca@130.133.1.4...
    > >
    > >> Linda wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

    > >
    > >>> When you compare using sound and
    > >>> praise to solve a problem with using
    > >>> shock collars, hanging, and punishment
    > >>> how can you criticize the use of sound?

    > >
    > >> There's nothing more to be said, then.
    > >> You've made up your mind.

    > >
    > >> But you've impressed me by mentioning
    > >> that you're a professor with 30 years of
    > >> experience.

    > >
    > >> So, can you cite some examples of
    > >> people recommending "shock collars,
    > >> hanging, and punishment"?

    > >
    > > BWWWAWHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
    > >
    > >> --
    > >> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

    > >
    > > You think matty's playin with a full
    > > goddamned deck?
    > >
    > > matty's NOT a liar and dog abuser.
    > >
    > > Isn't that true, Marilyn?
    > >
    > > Of course not, but THIS IS:
    > >
    > > "Chin CHUCK absolutely doesn't mean slap,"
    > > professora gingold.
    > >
    > > "Marshall Dermer" <> wrote in message
    > > news:a3h5qn$mra$...
    > >
    > >>> Di,

    > >
    > >> I don't believe you mentioned a particular
    > >> kind of training. If you are interested in
    > >> training retrieval behavior than do
    > >> consider our own Amy Dahl's:

    > >
    > >> The 10-Minute Retriever : How to Make a
    > >> Well-Mannered, Obedient and
    > >> Enthusiastic Gun Dog in 10 Minutes a
    > >> Day by John I. Dahl, Amy Dahl

    > >
    > > You failed to mention your pals the dahls are
    > > proven liars and dog abusers, professor "SCRUFF SHAKE:"
    > >
    > > "I Would Never Advise Anyone To Slap A
    > > Dog I Do Not Believe There Is A Single
    > > Circumstance Ever, Where Slapping A
    > > Dog Is Anything But Destructive,"
    > >
    > > LUCKY thing CHIN CHUCK absolutely don't
    > > mean slap the goddamned dog, we'd look like
    > > a conspiracy of LIARS and DOG abusers if
    > > CHIN CHUCK DID mean SLAP the dog.
    > >
    > > "I don't see why anyone would want to choke or
    > > beat a dog, or how any trainer could possibly get
    > > a good working dog by making them unhapper,
    > > fearful, cowering, etc." sez amy lying frosty dahl.
    > >
    > > DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THE TRUTH?
    > >
    > >> just $17.95 at Amazon.com.

    > >
    > >> (Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
    > >> few regulars here who are either ill-
    > >> tempered, ill-mannered, or just plain ill.)
    > >> --Marshall

    > >
    > > Or HOWE about HOWER just plain CRUEL
    > > STUPID and ABUSIVE DOG ABUSERS,
    > > professor SCRUFF SHAKE?
    > >
    > > amy lying frosty dahl continues:
    > >
    > > "On the other extreme, the really hard dogs
    > > we have trained require much more
    > > frequent and heavy application of pressure
    > > (PAIN j.h.) to get the job done,
    > >
    > > This is continued resistance to your
    > > increasing authority, and the job is
    > > not done until it is overcome
    > >
    > > Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper
    > > wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher,
    > > less tractable dogs may require you to
    > > progress to striking them more sharply"
    > >
    > > BUT NOBODY DOES THAT HERE...
    > >
    > > "Try pinching the ear between the metal
    > > casing and the collar, even the buckle on
    > > the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will
    > > give in but will squeal, thrash around, and
    > > direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch"
    > >
    > > OR ATTACKING HIS ABUSER.
    > >
    > > "You can press the dog's ear with a
    > > shotshell instead of your thumb even
    > > get a studded collar and pinch the ear
    > > against that Make the dog's need to stop
    > > the pinching so urgent that resisting your
    > > will fades in importance.
    > >
    > > CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever
    > > Ready Right Hand, As it catches on, try
    > > using the stick and no ear pinch.
    > >
    > > When the dog is digging out to beat the
    > > stick and seems totally reliable without
    > > any ear pinch, you are finished
    > >
    > > This is continued resistance to your
    > > increasing authority, and the job is
    > > not done until it is overcome"
    > >
    > > If the dog drops it, chuck it solidly
    > > under the chin, say "No! Hold!"
    > >
    > > (stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps
    > > because the ear is getting tender, or the
    > > dog has decided it isn't worth it)" lying
    > > frosty dahl.
    > >
    > > "Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap,"
    > > professora gingold.
    > >
    > > From: Marshall Dermer ()
    > > In article <>
    > > writes:
    > >
    > >>> -snip headers etc.

    > >
    > >>> Yes. you're right, I really should find
    > >>> the book.. they don't have these books
    > >>> in the local pet stores I frequent, where
    > >>> do you find Koehler?

    > >
    > >> I got a nice large print copy from
    > >> Amazon.com

    > >
    > >> Richard

    > >
    > > Please try Powell's Books in Portland
    > > Oregon. Their URL is:
    > >
    > > http://www.powells.com/
    > >
    > > Unlike Amazon.com, Powell's keeps both
    > > new and used books on its shelves. You
    > > can order books via e-email.
    > >
    > > Koehler Method Of Dog
    > > Training
    > > by Koehler, W R
    > > Published by HOWELL BOOK
    > > HOUSE (0876056575,
    > >
    > > ========================================================
    > >
    > > Here's some quotes and some methods right
    > > outta your koehler book professor "SCRUFF SHAKE and scream

    "NO!"
    > > into its
    > > face for 5
    > > seconds:"
    > >
    > > "The Koehler Method of Dog Training (1962). New York:
    > > Howell Book Book House(p. 52-53)."
    > >
    > > Hanging
    > >
    > > "First, the trainer makes certain that the collar
    > > and leash are more than adequate for any jerk
    > > or strain that the dog's most frantic actions could cause.

    Then
    > > he starts
    > > to work the dog deliberately and fairly to the point where the

    dog
    > > makes his
    > > grab.
    > >
    > > Before the teeth have reached their target,
    > > the dog, weight permitting, is jerked from
    > > the ground.
    > >
    > > As in coping with some of the afore-mentioned problems the dog

    is
    > > suspended
    > > in mid-air.
    > >
    > > However, to let the biting dog recover
    > > his footing while he still had the strength
    > > to renew the attack would be cruelty.
    > >
    > > The only justifiable course is to hold him
    > > suspended until he has neither the strength
    > > nor inclination to renew the fight.
    > >
    > > When finally it is obvious that he is
    > > physically incapable of expressing his
    > > resentment and is lowered to the ground,
    > > he will probably stagger loop-legged for a
    > > few steps, vomit once or twice, and roll
    > > over on his side.
    > >
    > > The sight of a dog lying, thick-tongued,
    > > on his side, is not pleasant, but do not
    > > let it alarm you
    > >
    > > THE REAL "HOOD"
    > >
    > > "If your dog is a real "hood" who would
    > > regard the foregoing types of protest as
    > > "kid stuff" and would express his
    > > resentment of your efforts by biting,
    > > your problem is difficult -- and pressing.
    > >
    > > "Professional trainers often get these
    > > extreme problems. Nearly always the
    > > "protest biter" is the handiwork of a
    > > person who, by avoiding situations that
    > > the dog might resent, has nurtured the
    > > seeds of rebellion and then cultivated
    > > the resultant growth with under correction.
    > >
    > > When these people reap their inevitable
    > > and oftentimes painful harvest, they are
    > > ready to avail themselves of "the cruel
    > > trainer" whose advice they may have
    > > once rejected because it was incompatible
    > > with the sugary droolings of mealy-
    > > mouthed columnists, breed-ring biddies,
    > > and dog psychologists who, by the
    > > broken skins and broken hearts their
    > > misinformation causes, can be proven guilty
    > > of the greatest act of cruelty to animals
    > > since the dawn of time.
    > >
    > > "With more genuine compassion for the
    > > biting dog than would ever be demonstrated
    > > by those who are "too kind" to make a
    > > correction and certainly with more disregard
    > > for his safety, the professional trainer
    > > morally feels obligated to perform a "major
    > > operation."
    > >
    > > "Since we are presently concerned with
    > > the dog that bites in resentment of the
    > > demands of training, we will set our
    > > example in that situation. (In a later
    > > chapter we will deal with the with the
    > > much easier problem of the dog that
    > > bites someone other than his master."
    > >
    > > Are we havin FUN yet?
    > >
    > > Got a lite, professor SCRUFF SHAKE?
    > >
    > >

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    The Puppy Wizard, Oct 1, 2003
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  10. Jane Fondle

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    (Jane Fondle) wrote in message news:<>...
    > Jerry, how have you been. I used your training manual on my beagle and
    > now he is a great dog! Do you still sell the doggie do right?


    Cheers, Jerry! Keep up the good work! All of us here in
    rec.woodworking are thankful to you! You are responsible for educating
    us to keep our pets away from Gorilla Glue! Thanks a bunch!
     
    Spam Blocked, Oct 2, 2003
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  11. HOWEDY Spam Blocked,

    "Spam Blocked" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > (Jane Fondle) wrote in message

    news:<>...
    >
    > > Jerry, how have you been. I used your training
    > > manual on my beagle and now he is a great dog!


    INDEEDY. It's IN THE BAG. And it's FREE.

    > > Do you still sell the doggie do right?


    INDEEDY. It's money back satisfaction guaranteed FOREVER.

    > Cheers, Jerry! Keep up the good work!


    GUARANTEED.

    > All of us here in rec.woodworking are thankful to you!


    But of curse!

    > You are responsible for educating us to keep our pets
    > away from Gorilla Glue!


    Well, we had to learn the HARD way with the DEATH
    of perry's (bentcajungirl) DEAD DOG Maggie. ed w
    of PET LOSS dot COIN was estatic, gettin new business.

    > Thanks a bunch!


    Your welcome. Here's sumpthin else you should
    STAY AWAY FROM:

    Can you tell the TRUTH from a LIE?:

    > > > Jerome Bigge writes:
    > > > I do know that hitting, hurting
    > > > your dog will often make the
    > > > dog either aggressive or a fear
    > > > biter, neither of which we want to do.


    And then we got, matty! Follow his discussion!
    This is what's called, a liar and dog abuser:

    > > And neither does anyone else,
    > > Jerome. No matter
    > > what Jerry Howe states.


    "Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
    Dealing With This I've Suggested It To Quite
    A Few Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY
    TIME The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer,
    33 Years Experience.

    You DO remember KILLFILING MARILYN for her coment above
    regarding her success with The Puppy Wizard's Surrogate Toy
    Separation Anxiety / Bed Time Calming Technique (STSA/BTCT)?

    Perhaps you likeWIZE recall a pediatrician, Dr. Z, who commented
    that his bed time calming technique was quite similar?

    > > You're scary Marilyn.


    > > Marilyn must be quite a disturbed
    > > individual. I feel very sorry for her
    > > and her family.


    "His Amazing Progress Almost Makes Me Cry.
    Your Method Takes Positive Training To The
    Next Level And Should Really Be Used By All
    Trainers Who Call Themselves Trainers. Thank
    You For Helping Me Save His Life," Kay Pierce,
    Professional Trainer, 30 Years Experience.

    > > BUT, giving you the benefit of the
    > > doubt, please provide a quote (an
    > > original quote, not from one of Jerry
    > > Howe's heavily edited diatribes) that
    > > shows a regular poster promoting or
    > > using an abusive form of training.


    BWWWWEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

    > > --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.


    "Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
    Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
    Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
    Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
    The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
    mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.

    You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
    MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???

    "Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
    A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
    Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
    Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
    Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.

    You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
    SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
    is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?

    "Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
    Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
    Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
    But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:
    "Courteous Canine."

    You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING
    is COURTEOUS?

    "I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load
    your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently
    as possible. What does this mean?"

    Means the author is a dog abuser of the worst magnitude.

    "When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first time, spray
    one squirt directly into the dog's mouth and walk away. The dog
    won't be too thrilled with this but just ignore him and continue
    your
    normal behavior."

    You think HURTING your dog is NORMAL BEHAVIOR?

    --Mike Dufort
    author of the zero selling book
    "Courteous Canines"

    You think HOWER pal mikey is playin with a full deck?

    Yeah. When I preload my dog's mouth with bitter apple,
    suppose I don't get used to being stupid and cruel, mikey?

    Then HOWE do I train my dog if I can't HURT it?

    "I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm Over The Lab's Shoulder,
    Grabbed Her Opposite Foot With My Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her
    Side,
    Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!"
    And Neatly Nipped Her Ear," sionnach.

    Oh, THANKS, sinofabitch...

    And from terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
    "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is
    something you twisted out of context,
    because you are full of bizarro manure."

    "Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a
    helper wield the stick, or do it yourself.
    Tougher, less tractable dogs may require
    you to progress to striking them more
    sharply," lying frosty dahl, ethical breeder,
    expert trainer.

    You think a EXXXPERT trainer got to BEAT
    a HUNTIN dog to MAKE IT HUNT?

    "Pudge Was So Soft That She Could And
    Would Avoid A Simple Swat On The Rump
    With A Riding Crop," lying frosty dahl,
    discoverer of CANNIBALISM in Labradors.

    Perhaps the mom dog didn't want her babies HURT all
    their lives like HOWE HOWER dog lovers PREFER to
    HURT THEIR DOGS?

    "John ran out, grabbed Blackie by the collar, and
    gave the dog two or three medium whacks on the
    rump with a training stick while holding him partially
    off the ground. John then told Blackie to sit, ran back
    to the line and cast him back to the dummies."

    The Puppy Wizard sez a mom dog eatin her babies
    to SAVE THEM from a fate like that, is COMMENDABLE.

    We're gonna teach folks THAT AIN'T NORMAL...

    terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
    "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
    things is something you twisted out of
    context, because you are full of bizarro
    manure."

    Sez on our FAQ'S pages at K9 Web you should knee the dog in the
    chest, step
    on its toes, throw him down by his ears and climb all over it like
    a raped
    ape growling into his throat and bite IT on his ears, or leash pop
    it on a
    pronged spiked pinch choke collar or pop him in the snout with the
    heel of
    your palm.

    "BethF" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > "Frank" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > URK-OFF (Leah) wrote in message

    news:<>...
    > > > >"brianev" wrote:
    > > > > I ENJOYED reading your book, and
    > > > > AGREED with what you had to say.
    > > > > I find it sick to hear what people
    > > > > do with their dogs.

    :
    > > > Keep in mind that everything he says that
    > > > the regular posters of this ng do to their
    > > > dogs are lies.

    :
    > > > All of it. Every last bit.

    :
    > > All of it?

    :
    > > Ear pinching?

    :
    > > Shock collars?

    :
    > > Spiked chokers?

    :
    > > The regulars lie more in their denials than
    > > Howe does in his accusing of them.

    :
    > Uh, Frank? Who do you see denying anything?
    > Its quite interesting that a newbie like yourself
    > would see denials when everyone has Jerry
    > killfiled and therefore don't even read his posts,
    > let alone respond to them.


    "Rocky" <> wrote in message
    news:Xns92FEEC097E4AAaustralianshepherdca@130.133.1.4...

    > Linda wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:


    > > When you compare using sound and
    > > praise to solve a problem with using
    > > shock collars, hanging, and punishment
    > > how can you criticize the use of sound?


    > There's nothing more to be said, then.
    > You've made up your mind.


    > But you've impressed me by mentioning
    > that you're a professor with 30 years of
    > experience.


    > So, can you cite some examples of
    > people recommending "shock collars,
    > hanging, and punishment"?


    BWWWAWHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

    > --
    > --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.


    You think matty's playin with a full
    goddamned deck?

    matty's NOT a liar and dog abuser.

    Isn't that true, Marilyn?

    Of course not, but THIS IS:

    "Chin CHUCK absolutely doesn't mean slap,"
    professora gingold.

    "Marshall Dermer" <> wrote in message
    news:a3h5qn$mra$...

    > >Di,


    > I don't believe you mentioned a particular
    > kind of training. If you are interested in
    > training retrieval behavior than do
    > consider our own Amy Dahl's:


    > The 10-Minute Retriever : How to Make a
    > Well-Mannered, Obedient and
    > Enthusiastic Gun Dog in 10 Minutes a
    > Day by John I. Dahl, Amy Dahl


    You failed to mention your pals the dahls are
    proven liars and dog abusers, professor "SCRUFF SHAKE:"

    "I Would Never Advise Anyone To Slap A
    Dog I Do Not Believe There Is A Single
    Circumstance Ever, Where Slapping A
    Dog Is Anything But Destructive,"

    LUCKY thing CHIN CHUCK absolutely don't
    mean slap the goddamned dog, we'd look like
    a conspiracy of LIARS and DOG abusers if
    CHIN CHUCK DID mean SLAP the dog.

    "I don't see why anyone would want to choke or
    beat a dog, or how any trainer could possibly get
    a good working dog by making them unhapper,
    fearful, cowering, etc." sez amy lying frosty dahl.

    DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THE TRUTH?

    > just $17.95 at Amazon.com.


    > (Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
    > few regulars here who are either ill-
    > tempered, ill-mannered, or just plain ill.)
    > --Marshall


    Or HOWE about HOWER just plain CRUEL
    STUPID and ABUSIVE DOG ABUSERS,
    professor SCRUFF SHAKE?

    amy lying frosty dahl continues:

    "On the other extreme, the really hard dogs
    we have trained require much more
    frequent and heavy application of pressure
    (PAIN j.h.) to get the job done,

    This is continued resistance to your
    increasing authority, and the job is
    not done until it is overcome

    Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper
    wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher,
    less tractable dogs may require you to
    progress to striking them more sharply"

    BUT NOBODY DOES THAT HERE...

    "Try pinching the ear between the metal
    casing and the collar, even the buckle on
    the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will
    give in but will squeal, thrash around, and
    direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch"

    OR ATTACKING HIS ABUSER.

    "You can press the dog's ear with a
    shotshell instead of your thumb even
    get a studded collar and pinch the ear
    against that Make the dog's need to stop
    the pinching so urgent that resisting your
    will fades in importance.

    CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever
    Ready Right Hand, As it catches on, try
    using the stick and no ear pinch.

    When the dog is digging out to beat the
    stick and seems totally reliable without
    any ear pinch, you are finished

    This is continued resistance to your
    increasing authority, and the job is
    not done until it is overcome"

    If the dog drops it, chuck it solidly
    under the chin, say "No! Hold!"

    (stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps
    because the ear is getting tender, or the
    dog has decided it isn't worth it)" lying
    frosty dahl.

    "Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap,"
    professora gingold.

    From: Marshall Dermer ()
    In article <>
    writes:

    >> -snip headers etc.


    >> Yes. you're right, I really should find
    >> the book.. they don't have these books
    >> in the local pet stores I frequent, where
    >> do you find Koehler?


    > I got a nice large print copy from
    > Amazon.com


    >Richard


    Please try Powell's Books in Portland
    Oregon. Their URL is:

    http://www.powells.com/

    Unlike Amazon.com, Powell's keeps both
    new and used books on its shelves. You
    can order books via e-email.

    Koehler Method Of Dog
    Training
    by Koehler, W R
    Published by HOWELL BOOK
    HOUSE (0876056575,

    ========================================================

    Here's some quotes and some methods right
    outta your koehler book professor "SCRUFF SHAKE and scream "NO!"
    into its
    face for 5
    seconds:"

    "The Koehler Method of Dog Training (1962). New York:
    Howell Book Book House(p. 52-53)."

    Hanging

    "First, the trainer makes certain that the collar
    and leash are more than adequate for any jerk
    or strain that the dog's most frantic actions could cause. Then
    he starts
    to work the dog deliberately and fairly to the point where the dog
    makes his
    grab.

    Before the teeth have reached their target,
    the dog, weight permitting, is jerked from
    the ground.

    As in coping with some of the afore-mentioned problems the dog is
    suspended
    in mid-air.

    However, to let the biting dog recover
    his footing while he still had the strength
    to renew the attack would be cruelty.

    The only justifiable course is to hold him
    suspended until he has neither the strength
    nor inclination to renew the fight.

    When finally it is obvious that he is
    physically incapable of expressing his
    resentment and is lowered to the ground,
    he will probably stagger loop-legged for a
    few steps, vomit once or twice, and roll
    over on his side.

    The sight of a dog lying, thick-tongued,
    on his side, is not pleasant, but do not
    let it alarm you

    THE REAL "HOOD"

    "If your dog is a real "hood" who would
    regard the foregoing types of protest as
    "kid stuff" and would express his
    resentment of your efforts by biting,
    your problem is difficult -- and pressing.

    "Professional trainers often get these
    extreme problems. Nearly always the
    "protest biter" is the handiwork of a
    person who, by avoiding situations that
    the dog might resent, has nurtured the
    seeds of rebellion and then cultivated
    the resultant growth with under correction.

    When these people reap their inevitable
    and oftentimes painful harvest, they are
    ready to avail themselves of "the cruel
    trainer" whose advice they may have
    once rejected because it was incompatible
    with the sugary droolings of mealy-
    mouthed columnists, breed-ring biddies,
    and dog psychologists who, by the
    broken skins and broken hearts their
    misinformation causes, can be proven guilty
    of the greatest act of cruelty to animals
    since the dawn of time.

    "With more genuine compassion for the
    biting dog than would ever be demonstrated
    by those who are "too kind" to make a
    correction and certainly with more disregard
    for his safety, the professional trainer
    morally feels obligated to perform a "major
    operation."

    "Since we are presently concerned with
    the dog that bites in resentment of the
    demands of training, we will set our
    example in that situation. (In a later
    chapter we will deal with the with the
    much easier problem of the dog that
    bites someone other than his master."

    Are we havin FUN yet?

    Got a lite, professor SCRUFF SHAKE?

    The Puppy Wizard. <} : ~ ) >
     
    The Puppy Wizard, Oct 3, 2003
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