PHOTOKINA 2004: Sigma and Foveon to steal the show

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by Orville Wright, Aug 5, 2004.

  1. Sigma will be revealing a new DSLR at this year's Photokina, equipped
    with a groundbreaking new sensor from Foveon. Canon and Nikon users:
    start selling your cameras now before the resale values get cut in
    half.


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    Orville Wright, Aug 5, 2004
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  2. "Orville Wright" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Sigma will be revealing a new DSLR at this year's Photokina, equipped
    > with a groundbreaking new sensor from Foveon. Canon and Nikon users:
    > start selling your cameras now before the resale values get cut in
    > half.
    >

    To whom should we be selling our cameras? - And, why are you more concerned
    about, "us" than you are about the people we sell our cameras to? -
    Shouldn't Sigma film camera owners sell their cameras also? Do you actually
    KNOW any Sigma film camera owners?
     
    William Graham, Aug 5, 2004
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  3. Orville Wright wrote:
    > Sigma ....


    Our local Sigma SPAMer is heard from again . . . and again and again
    ....

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    Joseph E. Meehan

    26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math
     
    Joseph Meehan, Aug 5, 2004
    #3
  4. In article <>, Orville
    Wright <> wrote:

    > Sigma will be revealing a new DSLR at this year's Photokina, equipped
    > with a groundbreaking new sensor from Foveon. Canon and Nikon users:
    > start selling your cameras now before the resale values get cut in
    > half.


    Orville, baby...

    What's this new one gonna do...reproduce colors properly?
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Aug 6, 2004
    #4
  5. "Randall Ainsworth" <> wrote in message
    news:050820041845077000%...
    > In article <>, Orville
    > Wright <> wrote:
    >
    > > Sigma will be revealing a new DSLR at this year's Photokina, equipped
    > > with a groundbreaking new sensor from Foveon. Canon and Nikon users:
    > > start selling your cameras now before the resale values get cut in
    > > half.

    >
    > Orville, baby...
    >
    > What's this new one gonna do...reproduce colors properly?


    Maybe the specs will be true pixel count, not invented up-sampled numbers
     
    Darrell Larose, Aug 6, 2004
    #5
  6. Orville Wright

    Crownfield Guest

    Darrell Larose wrote:
    >
    > "Randall Ainsworth" <> wrote in message
    > news:050820041845077000%...
    > > In article <>, Orville
    > > Wright <> wrote:
    > >
    > > > Sigma will be revealing a new DSLR at this year's Photokina, equipped
    > > > with a groundbreaking new sensor from Foveon. Canon and Nikon users:
    > > > start selling your cameras now before the resale values get cut in
    > > > half.

    > >
    > > Orville, baby...
    > >
    > > What's this new one gonna do...reproduce colors properly?

    >
    > Maybe the specs will be true pixel count, not invented up-sampled numbers


    we should start a pool
    on when the preddiot will claim 20mp+ for the sigma.
     
    Crownfield, Aug 6, 2004
    #6
  7. Orville Wright

    E. Le Phant Guest

    "Crownfield" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Darrell Larose wrote:
    > > Maybe the specs will be true pixel count, not invented up-sampled

    numbers
    >
    > we should start a pool
    > on when the preddiot will claim 20mp+ for the sigma.


    As opposed to its true 20 kilopixel.
     
    E. Le Phant, Aug 6, 2004
    #7
  8. Orville Wright

    dylan Guest

    Thanks George(tte) Preddy for your usual unbiased view.

    "Orville Wright" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Sigma will be revealing a new DSLR at this year's Photokina, equipped
    > with a groundbreaking new sensor from Foveon. Canon and Nikon users:
    > start selling your cameras now before the resale values get cut in
    > half.
    >
    >
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    dylan, Aug 6, 2004
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  9. Orville Wright

    kosh Guest

    "William Graham" <> wrote in message
    news:3gwQc.78970$8_6.8027@attbi_s04...
    >
    > "Orville Wright" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Sigma will be revealing a new DSLR at this year's Photokina, equipped
    > > with a groundbreaking new sensor from Foveon. Canon and Nikon users:
    > > start selling your cameras now before the resale values get cut in
    > > half.
    > >

    > To whom should we be selling our cameras? - And, why are you more

    concerned
    > about, "us" than you are about the people we sell our cameras to? -
    > Shouldn't Sigma film camera owners sell their cameras also? Do you

    actually
    > KNOW any Sigma film camera owners?
    >
    >


    I have been heavily involved in retail photographics for quite a while
    (until recently). In doing so, i have dealt with many many photographers.

    To this day I can honestly say I have only known 1. The distributor!
    actually, they probably will wind up returning it to Sigma for credit, so
    actually that makes it none!

    kosh
     
    kosh, Aug 6, 2004
    #9
  10. kosh wrote:

    > "William Graham" <> wrote in message
    > news:3gwQc.78970$8_6.8027@attbi_s04...
    >
    >>"Orville Wright" <> wrote in message
    >>news:...
    >>
    >>>Sigma will be revealing a new DSLR at this year's Photokina, equipped
    >>>with a groundbreaking new sensor from Foveon. Canon and Nikon users:
    >>>start selling your cameras now before the resale values get cut in
    >>>half.
    >>>

    >>
    >>To whom should we be selling our cameras? - And, why are you more

    >
    > concerned
    >
    >>about, "us" than you are about the people we sell our cameras to? -
    >>Shouldn't Sigma film camera owners sell their cameras also? Do you

    >
    > actually
    >
    >>KNOW any Sigma film camera owners?
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    > I have been heavily involved in retail photographics for quite a while
    > (until recently). In doing so, i have dealt with many many photographers.
    >
    > To this day I can honestly say I have only known 1. The distributor!
    > actually, they probably will wind up returning it to Sigma for credit, so
    > actually that makes it none!
    >



    Well, someone is using them, because I found a 180mm f5.6 Sigma SA mount
    macro for sale in Jessop Edinburgh, thought better of it, then rang them
    two days later to buy it - and it had gone. You don't sell lenses in the
    camera mount (especially unusual specialist lenses) unless there are
    people out there using the camera.

    David
     
    David Kilpatrick, Aug 6, 2004
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  11. Orville Wright

    Sander Vesik Guest

    In rec.photo.equipment.35mm Orville Wright <> wrote:
    > Sigma will be revealing a new DSLR at this year's Photokina, equipped
    > with a groundbreaking new sensor from Foveon. Canon and Nikon users:
    > start selling your cameras now before the resale values get cut in
    > half.


    Must be really soft ground if throwing a sensor at it breaks it...

    Or do you mean that they encased it in cast iron to make the camera
    not just take average pictrures but also weight 10 kg?

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    Sander Vesik, Aug 6, 2004
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  12. Orville Wright

    Sander Vesik Guest

    In rec.photo.equipment.35mm William Graham <> wrote:
    >
    > "Orville Wright" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Sigma will be revealing a new DSLR at this year's Photokina, equipped
    > > with a groundbreaking new sensor from Foveon. Canon and Nikon users:
    > > start selling your cameras now before the resale values get cut in
    > > half.
    > >

    > To whom should we be selling our cameras? - And, why are you more concerned
    > about, "us" than you are about the people we sell our cameras to? -
    > Shouldn't Sigma film camera owners sell their cameras also? Do you actually
    > KNOW any Sigma film camera owners?
    >


    Any owners of Nikon F100s and F5s switching to sigma digital - I'm willing
    to buy up the bodies (if in mint condition) for cheap. oh, wait - I also
    know a brdge I can exchange for them ;-)

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    Sander

    +++ Out of cheese error +++
     
    Sander Vesik, Aug 6, 2004
    #12
  13. Orville Wright

    Anoni Moose Guest

    "Darrell Larose" <> wrote in message
    > > What's this new one gonna do...reproduce colors properly?

    >
    > Maybe the specs will be true pixel count, not invented up-sampled numbers


    If it does, it'll be the first digital camera in history to do so. :)

    Mike
     
    Anoni Moose, Aug 6, 2004
    #13
  14. In article <>, Orville Wright wrote:
    > Sigma will be revealing a new DSLR at this year's Photokina, equipped
    > with a groundbreaking new sensor from Foveon. Canon and Nikon users:
    > start selling your cameras now before the resale values get cut in
    > half.


    In case Canon and Nikon announces they will start shipping their
    lenses sith a Sigma mount, then I will jump ship.

    The camera is only half the equation.

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    SIPPhone: 1-747.NOT.BYYI (668.2994) - Free Internet Phone
     
    Povl H. Pedersen, Aug 6, 2004
    #14
  15. "Sander Vesik" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > In rec.photo.equipment.35mm William Graham <> wrote:
    > >
    > > "Orville Wright" <> wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > > > Sigma will be revealing a new DSLR at this year's Photokina, equipped
    > > > with a groundbreaking new sensor from Foveon. Canon and Nikon users:
    > > > start selling your cameras now before the resale values get cut in
    > > > half.
    > > >

    > > To whom should we be selling our cameras? - And, why are you more

    concerned
    > > about, "us" than you are about the people we sell our cameras to? -
    > > Shouldn't Sigma film camera owners sell their cameras also? Do you

    actually
    > > KNOW any Sigma film camera owners?
    > >

    >
    > Any owners of Nikon F100s and F5s switching to sigma digital - I'm willing
    > to buy up the bodies (if in mint condition) for cheap. oh, wait - I also
    > know a brdge I can exchange for them ;-)
    >

    Thanks, but I already own several bridges.....I am very lucky, however,
    because someone keeps cleaning and painting them for me, so I must have also
    bought an extended maintenance warrantee.........
     
    William Graham, Aug 6, 2004
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  16. Orville Wright

    Peter Chant Guest

    In article <LFSQc.217898$%_6.204556@attbi_s01>,
    "William Graham" <> writes:
    >>
    >> Any owners of Nikon F100s and F5s switching to sigma digital - I'm willing
    >> to buy up the bodies (if in mint condition) for cheap. oh, wait - I also
    >> know a brdge I can exchange for them ;-)
    >>

    > Thanks, but I already own several bridges.....I am very lucky, however,
    > because someone keeps cleaning and painting them for me, so I must have also
    > bought an extended maintenance warrantee.........


    I always wonder if the Americans who bought London Bridge thought they
    were getting Tower Bridge.

    --

    http://www.petezilla.co.uk
     
    Peter Chant, Aug 7, 2004
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  17. Orville Wright

    kosh Guest

    >
    > Well, someone is using them, because I found a 180mm f5.6 Sigma SA mount
    > macro for sale in Jessop Edinburgh, thought better of it, then rang them
    > two days later to buy it - and it had gone. You don't sell lenses in the
    > camera mount (especially unusual specialist lenses) unless there are
    > people out there using the camera.
    >
    > David
    >



    operative word..... "A lens"
     
    kosh, Aug 7, 2004
    #17
  18. Orville Wright

    Peter Chant Guest

    In article <>,
    "Povl H. Pedersen" <> writes:
    >
    > In case Canon and Nikon announces they will start shipping their
    > lenses sith a Sigma mount, then I will jump ship.


    Would the smart move for Sigma be to make the camera with Nikon or
    Canon mounts?


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    http://www.petezilla.co.uk
     
    Peter Chant, Aug 7, 2004
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  19. Orville Wright

    Ken Chandler Guest

    Peter Chant wrote:

    > Would the smart move for Sigma be to make the camera with Nikon or
    > Canon mounts?


    They already did, well kinda.

    They are called the Kodak DCS Pro SLR/n and DCS Pro SLR/c respectively.
     
    Ken Chandler, Aug 7, 2004
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  20. Ken Chandler wrote:

    > Peter Chant wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Would the smart move for Sigma be to make the camera with Nikon or
    >>Canon mounts?

    >
    >
    > They already did, well kinda.
    >
    > They are called the Kodak DCS Pro SLR/n and DCS Pro SLR/c respectively.
    >
    >

    The SLR/n is not Sigma based, though it is possible that Sigma may be
    contracted to do the conversion work and provide some parts - it's
    mainly an F80/F100 thing.

    David
     
    David Kilpatrick, Aug 7, 2004
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