PC gone berserk

Discussion in 'MCSA' started by N. Camarda, Jan 31, 2004.

  1. N. Camarda

    N. Camarda Guest

    Have a Dell PC with windows 98, purchased apprx 3 years
    ago. Worked pretty well until a few months ago. Then it
    all began to fall apart. Now when I start up I get a
    message "This program has performed an illegal operation
    and will be shut down. If problem persists, contact the
    program vendor." Two action buttons follow. If I click
    on "Close" another message appears: "Microsoft Visual C++
    Runtime error. Pure Visual Memory R6025."
    If I click on the Details Button, a list of the technical
    faults appears; i.e. "LSASS caused an invalid page fault
    in module LSASS.EXE at 015f:004440eabb.
    Register
    EAX=00000000 cs=015f EIP=0040eabb EFLGGS=0001110202
    EBX=00f10280 SS=0167 ESP=0067f7c4 EBP=0000000a
    ECX=ffffffff DS=0167 ESI=00000000FS= 3757
    EDX=7efeff33 ES=0167 EDI=-00000000 GS=40
    Bytes at CS:EIp
    f2 ae f7 dl w9 ba 01 8b 09 8d 4c 24 20 55 e8 f2
    Stack Dump:0667fbeo 0067fac8 0067fac8 00000000 00f105b0
    0043737c 00e04240 0040bb00 00f10231 00000014 0000001f
    0067f818 0067f804 0067fbf4 0067fbfc 0067fac8."
    When I sign on it takes about 3 or 4 minutes to establish
    conact with thr web via my service prrovider, Earthlink.
    When I do, the computer has a tendency to "freeze" and all
    too often, the only way I can shut down is with the power
    buton. The Ctrl-Alt-DEL shut down merthod works about half
    the time. The rest of the time I get another Windows
    mwssage "A fatal exception )E gas occurred at
    0028:CD366610 in VXD in modem(01)= 00019290. The current
    application will be terminated.
    Press any key to terminate the current applicaion.
    Press CTRL=ALT=DEL again to restart your computer. You
    will lose any unsaved information in all applications.
    Press any key to continue."
    I have absolutely no idea as to what it all means except
    perhaps I should shoot the PC to terminate its misery but
    I can't afford a new one aaand even if I coul, I'm pushing
    80 and am reluctsnt to buy another that I may use only
    weeks or days. I'd rather leave the money to my widow and
    grandchildren.
    Can anyone suggest how I can extend the useul life of my
    Deell PC?
     
    N. Camarda, Jan 31, 2004
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  2. N. Camarda

    lol Guest

    Just have someone reformat it for you and reinstall the
    O/S ... Call GeeksOnCall.


    >-----Original Message-----
    >Have a Dell PC with windows 98, purchased apprx 3 years
    >ago. Worked pretty well until a few months ago. Then it
    >all began to fall apart. Now when I start up I get a
    >message "This program has performed an illegal operation
    >and will be shut down. If problem persists, contact the
    >program vendor." Two action buttons follow. If I click
    >on "Close" another message appears: "Microsoft Visual C++
    >Runtime error. Pure Visual Memory R6025."
    >If I click on the Details Button, a list of the technical
    >faults appears; i.e. "LSASS caused an invalid page fault
    >in module LSASS.EXE at 015f:004440eabb.
    >Register
    >EAX=00000000 cs=015f EIP=0040eabb EFLGGS=0001110202
    >EBX=00f10280 SS=0167 ESP=0067f7c4 EBP=0000000a
    >ECX=ffffffff DS=0167 ESI=00000000FS= 3757
    >EDX=7efeff33 ES=0167 EDI=-00000000 GS=40
    >Bytes at CS:EIp
    >f2 ae f7 dl w9 ba 01 8b 09 8d 4c 24 20 55 e8 f2
    >Stack Dump:0667fbeo 0067fac8 0067fac8 00000000 00f105b0
    >0043737c 00e04240 0040bb00 00f10231 00000014 0000001f
    >0067f818 0067f804 0067fbf4 0067fbfc 0067fac8."
    >When I sign on it takes about 3 or 4 minutes to establish
    >conact with thr web via my service prrovider, Earthlink.
    >When I do, the computer has a tendency to "freeze" and

    all
    >too often, the only way I can shut down is with the power
    >buton. The Ctrl-Alt-DEL shut down merthod works about

    half
    >the time. The rest of the time I get another Windows
    >mwssage "A fatal exception )E gas occurred at
    >0028:CD366610 in VXD in modem(01)= 00019290. The current
    >application will be terminated.
    >Press any key to terminate the current applicaion.
    >Press CTRL=ALT=DEL again to restart your computer. You
    >will lose any unsaved information in all applications.
    >Press any key to continue."
    >I have absolutely no idea as to what it all means except
    >perhaps I should shoot the PC to terminate its misery but
    >I can't afford a new one aaand even if I coul, I'm

    pushing
    >80 and am reluctsnt to buy another that I may use only
    >weeks or days. I'd rather leave the money to my widow and
    >grandchildren.
    >Can anyone suggest how I can extend the useul life of my
    >Deell PC?
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    lol, Feb 1, 2004
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  3. N. Camarda

    Matt Guest

    Process File: lsass or lsass.exe
    Process Name: Local Security Authority Service
    Description: Windows Local Security Authority Server Process handles Windows
    security mechanisms. It verifies the validity of user logons to your
    computer or server. Technically, the software generates the process that is
    responsible for authenticating users for the Winlogon service.
    Company: Microsoft Corp.
    System Process: Yes
    Security Risk ( Virus/Trojan/Worm/Adware/Spyware ): No
    Common Errors: N/A


    Are you sure you're running windows 98? Everything I've found for that file
    indicates its a windows NT/2000/XP file. I've also found references on that
    file for domain authentication errors, IIS errors and Exhange server errors.
    Also is that the exact error message word for word? I can't find anything
    on "Pure Visual Memory R6025", but I did find "r6025 pure virtual function
    call". If the last one is what you're really getting, try going into safe
    mode (you get there by tapping F8 on start up, before the windows spash
    screen) and uninstall Norton systemworks. Also go to
    Start->Programs->Startup and delete everything in there.

    "lol" <> wrote in message
    news:7bd201c3e87d$2fd80c70$...
    >
    > Just have someone reformat it for you and reinstall the
    > O/S ... Call GeeksOnCall.
    >
    >
    > >-----Original Message-----
    > >Have a Dell PC with windows 98, purchased apprx 3 years
    > >ago. Worked pretty well until a few months ago. Then it
    > >all began to fall apart. Now when I start up I get a
    > >message "This program has performed an illegal operation
    > >and will be shut down. If problem persists, contact the
    > >program vendor." Two action buttons follow. If I click
    > >on "Close" another message appears: "Microsoft Visual C++
    > >Runtime error. Pure Visual Memory R6025."
    > >If I click on the Details Button, a list of the technical
    > >faults appears; i.e. "LSASS caused an invalid page fault
    > >in module LSASS.EXE at 015f:004440eabb.
    > >Register
    > >EAX=00000000 cs=015f EIP=0040eabb EFLGGS=0001110202
    > >EBX=00f10280 SS=0167 ESP=0067f7c4 EBP=0000000a
    > >ECX=ffffffff DS=0167 ESI=00000000FS= 3757
    > >EDX=7efeff33 ES=0167 EDI=-00000000 GS=40
    > >Bytes at CS:EIp
    > >f2 ae f7 dl w9 ba 01 8b 09 8d 4c 24 20 55 e8 f2
    > >Stack Dump:0667fbeo 0067fac8 0067fac8 00000000 00f105b0
    > >0043737c 00e04240 0040bb00 00f10231 00000014 0000001f
    > >0067f818 0067f804 0067fbf4 0067fbfc 0067fac8."
    > >When I sign on it takes about 3 or 4 minutes to establish
    > >conact with thr web via my service prrovider, Earthlink.
    > >When I do, the computer has a tendency to "freeze" and

    > all
    > >too often, the only way I can shut down is with the power
    > >buton. The Ctrl-Alt-DEL shut down merthod works about

    > half
    > >the time. The rest of the time I get another Windows
    > >mwssage "A fatal exception )E gas occurred at
    > >0028:CD366610 in VXD in modem(01)= 00019290. The current
    > >application will be terminated.
    > >Press any key to terminate the current applicaion.
    > >Press CTRL=ALT=DEL again to restart your computer. You
    > >will lose any unsaved information in all applications.
    > >Press any key to continue."
    > >I have absolutely no idea as to what it all means except
    > >perhaps I should shoot the PC to terminate its misery but
    > >I can't afford a new one aaand even if I coul, I'm

    > pushing
    > >80 and am reluctsnt to buy another that I may use only
    > >weeks or days. I'd rather leave the money to my widow and
    > >grandchildren.
    > >Can anyone suggest how I can extend the useul life of my
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    Matt, Feb 1, 2004
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  4. I agree with reformatting the drive. It sounds like the OS is corrupt.

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    PATRICK ZARTMAN
     
    PATRICK ZARTMAN, Feb 1, 2004
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  5. N. Camarda

    Herb Martin Guest

    Those who suggest "reformatting the drive" are either amateurs or
    just malicious -- likely both.

    There is ZERO reason to format over such problems -- especially
    before you have tried the options at your disposal for repair.

    Even if you re-install the OS (one aggressive option) there is no reason
    to reformat and lose your data.

    I am not a 98 expert so I cannot rattle of the list of 98 troubleshooting
    steps but they are easy to find on the web, at Microsoft and other sites.

    Start with looking into the machine and user profiles.

    --
    Herb Martin
    "N. Camarda" <> wrote in message
    news:7d5701c3e835$d25607b0$...
    > Have a Dell PC with windows 98, purchased apprx 3 years
    > ago. Worked pretty well until a few months ago. Then it
    > all began to fall apart. Now when I start up I get a
    > message "This program has performed an illegal operation
    > and will be shut down. If problem persists, contact the
    > program vendor." Two action buttons follow. If I click
    > on "Close" another message appears: "Microsoft Visual C++
    > Runtime error. Pure Visual Memory R6025."
    > If I click on the Details Button, a list of the technical
    > faults appears; i.e. "LSASS caused an invalid page fault
    > in module LSASS.EXE at 015f:004440eabb.
    > Register
    > EAX=00000000 cs=015f EIP=0040eabb EFLGGS=0001110202
    > EBX=00f10280 SS=0167 ESP=0067f7c4 EBP=0000000a
    > ECX=ffffffff DS=0167 ESI=00000000FS= 3757
    > EDX=7efeff33 ES=0167 EDI=-00000000 GS=40
    > Bytes at CS:EIp
    > f2 ae f7 dl w9 ba 01 8b 09 8d 4c 24 20 55 e8 f2
    > Stack Dump:0667fbeo 0067fac8 0067fac8 00000000 00f105b0
    > 0043737c 00e04240 0040bb00 00f10231 00000014 0000001f
    > 0067f818 0067f804 0067fbf4 0067fbfc 0067fac8."
    > When I sign on it takes about 3 or 4 minutes to establish
    > conact with thr web via my service prrovider, Earthlink.
    > When I do, the computer has a tendency to "freeze" and all
    > too often, the only way I can shut down is with the power
    > buton. The Ctrl-Alt-DEL shut down merthod works about half
    > the time. The rest of the time I get another Windows
    > mwssage "A fatal exception )E gas occurred at
    > 0028:CD366610 in VXD in modem(01)= 00019290. The current
    > application will be terminated.
    > Press any key to terminate the current applicaion.
    > Press CTRL=ALT=DEL again to restart your computer. You
    > will lose any unsaved information in all applications.
    > Press any key to continue."
    > I have absolutely no idea as to what it all means except
    > perhaps I should shoot the PC to terminate its misery but
    > I can't afford a new one aaand even if I coul, I'm pushing
    > 80 and am reluctsnt to buy another that I may use only
    > weeks or days. I'd rather leave the money to my widow and
    > grandchildren.
    > Can anyone suggest how I can extend the useul life of my
    > Deell PC?
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    Herb Martin, Feb 1, 2004
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  6. N. Camarda

    wellduh Guest

    Herb the guy is 80 years old, he needs outside help.
    Formatting is always a viable option for MS corruption
    issues that are unable to be fixed with minor/major
    surgery.



    >-----Original Message-----
    >Those who suggest "reformatting the drive" are either

    amateurs or
    >just malicious -- likely both.
    >
    >There is ZERO reason to format over such problems --

    especially
    >before you have tried the options at your disposal for

    repair.
    >
    >Even if you re-install the OS (one aggressive option)

    there is no reason
    >to reformat and lose your data.
    >
    >I am not a 98 expert so I cannot rattle of the list of 98

    troubleshooting
    >steps but they are easy to find on the web, at Microsoft

    and other sites.
    >
    >Start with looking into the machine and user profiles.
    >
    >--
    >Herb Martin
    >"N. Camarda" <> wrote

    in message
    >news:7d5701c3e835$d25607b0$...
    >> Have a Dell PC with windows 98, purchased apprx 3 years
    >> ago. Worked pretty well until a few months ago. Then it
    >> all began to fall apart. Now when I start up I get a
    >> message "This program has performed an illegal operation
    >> and will be shut down. If problem persists, contact the
    >> program vendor." Two action buttons follow. If I click
    >> on "Close" another message appears: "Microsoft Visual

    C++
    >> Runtime error. Pure Visual Memory R6025."
    >> If I click on the Details Button, a list of the

    technical
    >> faults appears; i.e. "LSASS caused an invalid page fault
    >> in module LSASS.EXE at 015f:004440eabb.
    >> Register
    >> EAX=00000000 cs=015f EIP=0040eabb EFLGGS=0001110202
    >> EBX=00f10280 SS=0167 ESP=0067f7c4 EBP=0000000a
    >> ECX=ffffffff DS=0167 ESI=00000000FS= 3757
    >> EDX=7efeff33 ES=0167 EDI=-00000000 GS=40
    >> Bytes at CS:EIp
    >> f2 ae f7 dl w9 ba 01 8b 09 8d 4c 24 20 55 e8 f2
    >> Stack Dump:0667fbeo 0067fac8 0067fac8 00000000 00f105b0
    >> 0043737c 00e04240 0040bb00 00f10231 00000014 0000001f
    >> 0067f818 0067f804 0067fbf4 0067fbfc 0067fac8."
    >> When I sign on it takes about 3 or 4 minutes to

    establish
    >> conact with thr web via my service prrovider, Earthlink.
    >> When I do, the computer has a tendency to "freeze" and

    all
    >> too often, the only way I can shut down is with the

    power
    >> buton. The Ctrl-Alt-DEL shut down merthod works about

    half
    >> the time. The rest of the time I get another Windows
    >> mwssage "A fatal exception )E gas occurred at
    >> 0028:CD366610 in VXD in modem(01)= 00019290. The current
    >> application will be terminated.
    >> Press any key to terminate the current applicaion.
    >> Press CTRL=ALT=DEL again to restart your computer. You
    >> will lose any unsaved information in all applications.
    >> Press any key to continue."
    >> I have absolutely no idea as to what it all means except
    >> perhaps I should shoot the PC to terminate its misery

    but
    >> I can't afford a new one aaand even if I coul, I'm

    pushing
    >> 80 and am reluctsnt to buy another that I may use only
    >> weeks or days. I'd rather leave the money to my widow

    and
    >> grandchildren.
    >> Can anyone suggest how I can extend the useul life of my
    >> Deell PC?
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    wellduh, Feb 2, 2004
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  7. N. Camarda

    Eric S Scott Guest

    He's looking for a diagnosis. First try the reinstall of the OS
    (Win98). That's minor or medium sugery and may very well fix the
    problem. Be sure to run windows updates after that. (Why not call a
    grandkid in to help with all that? I'm sure it'll be a terrific
    learning and bonding experience!) If that fails, back up your personal
    files, documents, etc before doing the reformat.

    But I think either reinstalling the OS and/or Norton should go a long
    way to help resolve most of the problems. Possibly remove and reinstall
    your ISP software too (be sure you jot down the connection settings, ID,
    & password first).

    ESScott

    wellduh wrote:
    > Herb the guy is 80 years old, he needs outside help.
    > Formatting is always a viable option for MS corruption
    > issues that are unable to be fixed with minor/major
    > surgery.
    >
    >>-----Original Message-----
    >>Those who suggest "reformatting the drive" are either amateurs or
    >>just malicious -- likely both.
    >>
    >>There is ZERO reason to format over such problems -- especially
    >>before you have tried the options at your disposal for repair.
    >>Even if you re-install the OS (one aggressive option) there is no reason
    >>to reformat and lose your data.
    >>
    >>I am not a 98 expert so I cannot rattle of the list of 98 troubleshooting
    >>steps but they are easy to find on the web, at Microsoft and other sites.
    >>Start with looking into the machine and user profiles.
    >>
    >>--
    >>Herb Martin
    >>"N. Camarda" <> wrote

    >
    > in message
    >
    >>news:7d5701c3e835$d25607b0$...
    >>
    >>>Have a Dell PC with windows 98, purchased apprx 3 years
    >>>ago. Worked pretty well until a few months ago. Then it
    >>>all began to fall apart. Now when I start up I get a
    >>>message "This program has performed an illegal operation
    >>>and will be shut down. If problem persists, contact the
    >>>program vendor." Two action buttons follow. If I click
    >>>on "Close" another message appears: "Microsoft Visual

    >
    > C++
    >
    >>>Runtime error. Pure Visual Memory R6025."
    >>>If I click on the Details Button, a list of the

    >
    > technical
    >
    >>>faults appears; i.e. "LSASS caused an invalid page fault
    >>>in module LSASS.EXE at 015f:004440eabb.
    >>>Register
    >>>EAX=00000000 cs=015f EIP=0040eabb EFLGGS=0001110202
    >>>EBX=00f10280 SS=0167 ESP=0067f7c4 EBP=0000000a
    >>>ECX=ffffffff DS=0167 ESI=00000000FS= 3757
    >>>EDX=7efeff33 ES=0167 EDI=-00000000 GS=40
    >>>Bytes at CS:EIp
    >>>f2 ae f7 dl w9 ba 01 8b 09 8d 4c 24 20 55 e8 f2
    >>>Stack Dump:0667fbeo 0067fac8 0067fac8 00000000 00f105b0
    >>>0043737c 00e04240 0040bb00 00f10231 00000014 0000001f
    >>>0067f818 0067f804 0067fbf4 0067fbfc 0067fac8."
    >>>When I sign on it takes about 3 or 4 minutes to establish
    >>>conact with thr web via my service prrovider, Earthlink.
    >>>When I do, the computer has a tendency to "freeze" and all
    >>>too often, the only way I can shut down is with the power
    >>>buton. The Ctrl-Alt-DEL shut down merthod works about half
    >>>the time. The rest of the time I get another Windows
    >>>mwssage "A fatal exception )E gas occurred at
    >>>0028:CD366610 in VXD in modem(01)= 00019290. The current
    >>>application will be terminated.
    >>>Press any key to terminate the current applicaion.
    >>>Press CTRL=ALT=DEL again to restart your computer. You
    >>>will lose any unsaved information in all applications.
    >>>Press any key to continue."
    >>>I have absolutely no idea as to what it all means except
    >>>perhaps I should shoot the PC to terminate its misery but
    >>>I can't afford a new one aaand even if I coul, I'm pushing
    >>>80 and am reluctsnt to buy another that I may use only
    >>>weeks or days. I'd rather leave the money to my widow
    >>>and grandchildren.
    >>>Can anyone suggest how I can extend the useul life of my
    >>>Deell PC?
     
    Eric S Scott, Feb 2, 2004
    #7
  8. N. Camarda

    Herb Martin Guest

    "wellduh" <> wrote in message
    news:852801c3e9bd$bbc81a90$...
    > Herb the guy is 80 years old, he needs outside help.
    > Formatting is always a viable option for MS corruption
    > issues that are unable to be fixed with minor/major
    > surgery.


    No, formatting is NOT ever a viable option for such issues -- with the
    possible
    exception of the worst virus infestations.

    It is mean and malicious --or just plain stupid-- to tell anyone that and if
    you
    cannot help you should leave him be.

    It is at the very best the suggestion of a rank amateur and anyone who makes
    it would need to convince others that he or she is really that misinformed
    and not
    playing an evil practical joke on an unsuspecting person who had merely
    asked
    for help.


    --
    Herb Martin
    >
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    >
    > >-----Original Message-----
    > >Those who suggest "reformatting the drive" are either

    > amateurs or
    > >just malicious -- likely both.
    > >
    > >There is ZERO reason to format over such problems --

    > especially
    > >before you have tried the options at your disposal for

    > repair.
    > >
    > >Even if you re-install the OS (one aggressive option)

    > there is no reason
    > >to reformat and lose your data.
    > >
    > >I am not a 98 expert so I cannot rattle of the list of 98

    > troubleshooting
    > >steps but they are easy to find on the web, at Microsoft

    > and other sites.
    > >
    > >Start with looking into the machine and user profiles.
    > >
    > >--
    > >Herb Martin
    > >"N. Camarda" <> wrote

    > in message
    > >news:7d5701c3e835$d25607b0$...
    > >> Have a Dell PC with windows 98, purchased apprx 3 years
    > >> ago. Worked pretty well until a few months ago. Then it
    > >> all began to fall apart. Now when I start up I get a
    > >> message "This program has performed an illegal operation
    > >> and will be shut down. If problem persists, contact the
    > >> program vendor." Two action buttons follow. If I click
    > >> on "Close" another message appears: "Microsoft Visual

    > C++
    > >> Runtime error. Pure Visual Memory R6025."
    > >> If I click on the Details Button, a list of the

    > technical
    > >> faults appears; i.e. "LSASS caused an invalid page fault
    > >> in module LSASS.EXE at 015f:004440eabb.
    > >> Register
    > >> EAX=00000000 cs=015f EIP=0040eabb EFLGGS=0001110202
    > >> EBX=00f10280 SS=0167 ESP=0067f7c4 EBP=0000000a
    > >> ECX=ffffffff DS=0167 ESI=00000000FS= 3757
    > >> EDX=7efeff33 ES=0167 EDI=-00000000 GS=40
    > >> Bytes at CS:EIp
    > >> f2 ae f7 dl w9 ba 01 8b 09 8d 4c 24 20 55 e8 f2
    > >> Stack Dump:0667fbeo 0067fac8 0067fac8 00000000 00f105b0
    > >> 0043737c 00e04240 0040bb00 00f10231 00000014 0000001f
    > >> 0067f818 0067f804 0067fbf4 0067fbfc 0067fac8."
    > >> When I sign on it takes about 3 or 4 minutes to

    > establish
    > >> conact with thr web via my service prrovider, Earthlink.
    > >> When I do, the computer has a tendency to "freeze" and

    > all
    > >> too often, the only way I can shut down is with the

    > power
    > >> buton. The Ctrl-Alt-DEL shut down merthod works about

    > half
    > >> the time. The rest of the time I get another Windows
    > >> mwssage "A fatal exception )E gas occurred at
    > >> 0028:CD366610 in VXD in modem(01)= 00019290. The current
    > >> application will be terminated.
    > >> Press any key to terminate the current applicaion.
    > >> Press CTRL=ALT=DEL again to restart your computer. You
    > >> will lose any unsaved information in all applications.
    > >> Press any key to continue."
    > >> I have absolutely no idea as to what it all means except
    > >> perhaps I should shoot the PC to terminate its misery

    > but
    > >> I can't afford a new one aaand even if I coul, I'm

    > pushing
    > >> 80 and am reluctsnt to buy another that I may use only
    > >> weeks or days. I'd rather leave the money to my widow

    > and
    > >> grandchildren.
    > >> Can anyone suggest how I can extend the useul life of my
    > >> Deell PC?
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    Herb Martin, Feb 3, 2004
    #8
  9. Thats really mean of you to suggest.

    Herb, you don't get it.


    >-----Original Message-----
    >I agree with reformatting the drive. It sounds like the

    OS is corrupt.
    >
    >--
    >PATRICK ZARTMAN
     
    herbduzntgetit, Feb 3, 2004
    #9
  10. Herb apparently has not dealt with Windows 98 (which he plainly admitted). Unless you would like to go line by line through the Windows Registry, a reinstall is the only logical fix. If the user reinstalls over top of his current installation, he should not loose any data files. He will need to reinstall his programs, but the data will be saved

    Unfortunately, this is common for Windows 98. It also is not the "immoral" solution you make it out to be. He will be fine.
     
    Patrick Jones, Feb 3, 2004
    #10
  11. N. Camarda

    Herb Martin Guest

    Reinstall is a world of difference from reformatting the hard drive
    which is definitely the recommendations of tyros or a crual joke.

    Never have I had to re-install even a Win9x machine though; they are have
    always been recoverable.

    Telling someone to "reformat the drive" is almost certainly STUPID or EVIL.

    --
    Herb Martin
    "Patrick Jones" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Herb apparently has not dealt with Windows 98 (which he plainly admitted).

    Unless you would like to go line by line through the Windows Registry, a
    reinstall is the only logical fix. If the user reinstalls over top of his
    current installation, he should not loose any data files. He will need to
    reinstall his programs, but the data will be saved.
    >
    > Unfortunately, this is common for Windows 98. It also is not the

    "immoral" solution you make it out to be. He will be fine.
     
    Herb Martin, Feb 4, 2004
    #11
  12. N. Camarda

    kpg Guest

    > Telling someone to "reformat the drive" is almost certainly STUPID or
    EVIL.

    It should not be the FIRST or SECOND solution but it is not EVIL?!. It
    depends
    on the clients use of the computer. Some people don't store data or it is
    data that is
    easily backed up and restored. To try to fix a difficult problem with trial
    and error
    can be time consuming - which costs money. If the client can be fixed and
    made
    whole again does it matter that it was done with a reformat/reinstall (that
    works out
    to be cheaper for the client?) A novice that asks advice should not be told
    to reformat
    without first making sure that they understand what is at stake. Before
    making the
    suggestion the questions should be asked: "Have you tried other solutions?"
    "How
    important is your data?". "Do you have your data backed up?" "Do you have
    the
    OS disk?" "Do you have all the software disks?" Difficult Windows problems
    sometimes require a tech to sit in front of the machine and poke around.
    Doing it
    "long distance" is hit or miss at best.

    The best advice for the OP is to get a local tech to come out and look at
    the machine.

    KP "don't talk to strangers" G
     
    kpg, Feb 4, 2004
    #12
  13. N. Camarda

    Guest Guest


    >-----Original Message-----
    >Have a Dell PC with windows 98, purchased apprx 3 years
    >ago. Worked pretty well until a few months ago. Then it
    >all began to fall apart. Now when I start up I get a
    >message "This program has performed an illegal operation
    >and will be shut down. If problem persists, contact the
    >program vendor." Two action buttons follow. If I click
    >on "Close" another message appears: "Microsoft Visual C++
    >Runtime error. Pure Visual Memory R6025."
    >If I click on the Details Button, a list of the technical
    >faults appears; i.e. "LSASS caused an invalid page fault
    >in module LSASS.EXE at 015f:004440eabb.
    >Register
    >EAX=00000000 cs=015f EIP=0040eabb EFLGGS=0001110202
    >EBX=00f10280 SS=0167 ESP=0067f7c4 EBP=0000000a
    >ECX=ffffffff DS=0167 ESI=00000000FS= 3757
    >EDX=7efeff33 ES=0167 EDI=-00000000 GS=40
    >Bytes at CS:EIp
    >f2 ae f7 dl w9 ba 01 8b 09 8d 4c 24 20 55 e8 f2
    >Stack Dump:0667fbeo 0067fac8 0067fac8 00000000 00f105b0
    >0043737c 00e04240 0040bb00 00f10231 00000014 0000001f
    >0067f818 0067f804 0067fbf4 0067fbfc 0067fac8."
    >When I sign on it takes about 3 or 4 minutes to establish
    >conact with thr web via my service prrovider, Earthlink.
    >When I do, the computer has a tendency to "freeze" and

    all
    >too often, the only way I can shut down is with the power
    >buton. The Ctrl-Alt-DEL shut down merthod works about

    half
    >the time. The rest of the time I get another Windows
    >mwssage "A fatal exception )E gas occurred at
    >0028:CD366610 in VXD in modem(01)= 00019290. The current
    >application will be terminated.
    >Press any key to terminate the current applicaion.
    >Press CTRL=ALT=DEL again to restart your computer. You
    >will lose any unsaved information in all applications.
    >Press any key to continue."
    >I have absolutely no idea as to what it all means except
    >perhaps I should shoot the PC to terminate its misery but
    >I can't afford a new one aaand even if I coul, I'm

    pushing
    >80 and am reluctsnt to buy another that I may use only
    >weeks or days. I'd rather leave the money to my widow and
    >grandchildren.
    >Can anyone suggest how I can extend the useul life of my
    >Deell PC?
    >
    >
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    >Format hard drive and install new os
     
    Guest, Feb 5, 2004
    #13
  14. N. Camarda

    MikeF Guest

    I just searched a Windows 98 installation and found no lsass.exe file.
    You may have Windows 2000.
    In any case, first thing to do is follow the second part of Matt's
    advice.

    If you are running Norton software, disable or uninstall it and see if
    that solves the problem.
    Ditto if you are running MacAfee software.

    If the problem still exists, try removing everything from the startup
    folder. Find it by clicking the start button, then choosing search,
    then in the search for files or folders dialogue box, type startup and
    hit enter.

    When it finds the folder, open it and delete everything in there.

    If that the problem still exists, time to call a tech. Unless you've
    done it before, I wouldn't try doing either a reinstall of windows
    over the current installation or a format and rebuild by yourself.

    good luck

    Mike


    "N. Camarda" <> wrote in message
    news:7d5701c3e835$d25607b0$...
    > Have a Dell PC with windows 98, purchased apprx 3 years
    > ago. Worked pretty well until a few months ago. Then it
    > all began to fall apart. Now when I start up I get a
    > message "This program has performed an illegal operation
    > and will be shut down. If problem persists, contact the
    > program vendor." Two action buttons follow. If I click
    > on "Close" another message appears: "Microsoft Visual C++
    > Runtime error. Pure Visual Memory R6025."
    > If I click on the Details Button, a list of the technical
    > faults appears; i.e. "LSASS caused an invalid page fault
    > in module LSASS.EXE at 015f:004440eabb.
    > Register
    > EAX=00000000 cs=015f EIP=0040eabb EFLGGS=0001110202
    > EBX=00f10280 SS=0167 ESP=0067f7c4 EBP=0000000a
    > ECX=ffffffff DS=0167 ESI=00000000FS= 3757
    > EDX=7efeff33 ES=0167 EDI=-00000000 GS=40
    > Bytes at CS:EIp
    > f2 ae f7 dl w9 ba 01 8b 09 8d 4c 24 20 55 e8 f2
    > Stack Dump:0667fbeo 0067fac8 0067fac8 00000000 00f105b0
    > 0043737c 00e04240 0040bb00 00f10231 00000014 0000001f
    > 0067f818 0067f804 0067fbf4 0067fbfc 0067fac8."
    > When I sign on it takes about 3 or 4 minutes to establish
    > conact with thr web via my service prrovider, Earthlink.
    > When I do, the computer has a tendency to "freeze" and all
    > too often, the only way I can shut down is with the power
    > buton. The Ctrl-Alt-DEL shut down merthod works about half
    > the time. The rest of the time I get another Windows
    > mwssage "A fatal exception )E gas occurred at
    > 0028:CD366610 in VXD in modem(01)= 00019290. The current
    > application will be terminated.
    > Press any key to terminate the current applicaion.
    > Press CTRL=ALT=DEL again to restart your computer. You
    > will lose any unsaved information in all applications.
    > Press any key to continue."
    > I have absolutely no idea as to what it all means except
    > perhaps I should shoot the PC to terminate its misery but
    > I can't afford a new one aaand even if I coul, I'm pushing
    > 80 and am reluctsnt to buy another that I may use only
    > weeks or days. I'd rather leave the money to my widow and
    > grandchildren.
    > Can anyone suggest how I can extend the useul life of my
    > Deell PC?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    MikeF, Feb 15, 2004
    #14
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