Outlook Express

Discussion in 'Computer Information' started by paul nicholson, Sep 4, 2009.

  1. Can anyone help me with the following problem? The hard disk on my PC was
    recently damaged and nothing can be retrieved or rescued from it. All of my
    friends and families email addresses are on Outlook Express. Is the ANY way
    at all of retrieving these email addresses. I have even removed the hard
    disk and taken it to a PC shop but no luck. If anyone can help I will be
    eternally gratefull. Thank you.
     
    paul nicholson, Sep 4, 2009
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  2. paul nicholson

    JD Guest

    paul nicholson wrote:
    > Can anyone help me with the following problem? The hard disk on my PC was
    > recently damaged and nothing can be retrieved or rescued from it. All of my
    > friends and families email addresses are on Outlook Express. Is the ANY way
    > at all of retrieving these email addresses. I have even removed the hard
    > disk and taken it to a PC shop but no luck. If anyone can help I will be
    > eternally gratefull. Thank you.
    >
    >


    Hi there

    If your hard drive is physically damaged i.e. broken
    daughter-board/damaged read head etc. then there is no way of getting
    the data back, unless you take it to a Data recovery specialist, which
    isn't cheap.

    However if it's only the file system that's damaged then you have a good
    chance of getting the data back, if you can put the drive in another
    machine and it gets recognised, if windows asks you to format it say no
    and try a tool like "Get data back" you want the NTFS version for
    windows 2000,XP,VISTA and the Fat32 version if its Windows 9x,ME, you
    might also want to try Spinrite (its expensive, slow and I've had very
    little success with this program tho)

    Get Data Back http://www.runtime.org/data-recovery-software.htm
    Spinrite http://www.grc.com/cs/prepurch.htm

    JD
     
    JD, Sep 4, 2009
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  3. paul nicholson

    Paul Guest

    paul nicholson wrote:
    > Can anyone help me with the following problem? The hard disk on my PC was
    > recently damaged and nothing can be retrieved or rescued from it. All of my
    > friends and families email addresses are on Outlook Express. Is the ANY way
    > at all of retrieving these email addresses. I have even removed the hard
    > disk and taken it to a PC shop but no luck. If anyone can help I will be
    > eternally gratefull. Thank you.
    >
    >


    If a drive has failed bad enough, there can be obvious symptoms.

    1) Failure to spin. Sometimes the main bearing seizes. It happens
    if the tiny amount of lubricant in the fluid bearing, leaves
    the bearing.

    2) Lots of "clunk" sounds. That happens when the drive tries repeatedly
    to find some sector on the disk. It could be damage to the head
    assembly, that is causing an inability to read.

    When there are mechanical problems, a data recovery company can install
    a new head assembly or put in new drive bearings. That is done in
    a clean room environment (as clean as a room they make semiconductors in).
    That can solve those kinds of failures. But if the top of the platter
    is covered in contamination of some sort, the heads have scraped the platters,
    or there is corrosion, that could mean no data is coming back, despite
    their efforts.

    Data recovery can cost $500 to $1000, depending on the efforts made
    by the company. This is an example of a company - this company is
    apparently owned by Seagate.

    http://www.i365.com/data-recovery/

    The PC shop has probably tried a $39 data recovery program already.
    The PC shop would be most useful to you, if the drive was still
    working, and it was just the file system on it which was damaged.
    But the PC shop won't have a clean room, or the equipment to
    fix mechanical problems inside the drive HDA. That is where the data
    recovery firms come in.

    A basic test of the drive, is to enter the BIOS and view the
    setup page for IDE disks. If the defective IDE disk manages to
    show the correct name as in "Seagate 234WX567" or the like,
    then the drive may have initialized OK. If it clunks, and you
    see something out of the ordinary, like "Falcon", that means
    the controller is not able to read initialization data from the
    platter. And if the drive is simply not visible in the BIOS
    at all - no drive on the Primary cable or whatever, then buying
    a $39 data recovery program isn't going to get you anywhere.

    The main idea, at the hard drive controller board level, is the
    drive won't respond, unless it is able to initialize. The
    case where the drive name changes to something like "Falcon"
    is more of an anomaly, as that is a sign it didn't initialize
    properly, and really should have remained completely silent.

    Sometimes, the problem is an internal firmware problem, such
    as a table overflow, which has caused the drive to stop
    initializing. Again, a data recovery company may be able to
    flash upgrade the firmware, and the drive will function again.
    So sometimes, it is an actual design defect, which causes
    a lack of access to the drive.

    At this point, you can do the simple test, of checking in the
    BIOS. If the drive name is reported, then carry on at the
    $39 level. If the drive name is not reported, think about
    whether it is worth $500 to $1000, to get those email
    addresses.

    If you want a free data recovery program to try, there
    is this one. This is an archived copy of a free program, which
    used to be offered on a separate web site. But the drive would
    have to be visible in the BIOS, to even bother with this.

    http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/WoundedMoon/win32/driverescue19d.html

    Paul
     
    Paul, Sep 4, 2009
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  4. paul nicholson

    - Bobb - Guest

    "paul nicholson" <> wrote in message
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    > Can anyone help me with the following problem? The hard disk on my PC was
    > recently damaged and nothing can be retrieved or rescued from it. All of
    > my friends and families email addresses are on Outlook Express. Is the ANY
    > way at all of retrieving these email addresses. I have even removed the
    > hard disk and taken it to a PC shop but no luck. If anyone can help I will
    > be eternally gratefull. Thank you.

    What did the "person at the PC shop" say was bad ?
    Have you tried is as a SECOND drive in a system ? ( not trying to boot, but
    just try to read from it with windows running on another drive)
     
    - Bobb -, Sep 7, 2009
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  5. "- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote in message
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    >
    > "paul nicholson" <> wrote in message
    > news:c8aac$4aa13f59$50db1c80$...
    >> Can anyone help me with the following problem? The hard disk on my PC was
    >> recently damaged and nothing can be retrieved or rescued from it. All of
    >> my friends and families email addresses are on Outlook Express. Is the
    >> ANY way at all of retrieving these email addresses. I have even removed
    >> the hard disk and taken it to a PC shop but no luck. If anyone can help I
    >> will be eternally gratefull. Thank you.

    > What did the "person at the PC shop" say was bad ?
    > Have you tried is as a SECOND drive in a system ? ( not trying to boot,
    > but just try to read from it with windows running on another drive)
    >
    >



    Bobb is right.

    I have had three HDDs fail in the past year. I was able to get data off of
    them by getting another drive to boot from, then using the "failed drive" as
    a slave (with a drive letter above C), and simply drag the stuff I wanted to
    the new drive.

    I picked up a cool device for $25 that has a pair of IDE connections and a
    SATA connection, a power supply, and some patch cords. This turns any drive
    into a USB drive. I simply boot the system, connect the device to to the
    "failed drive", and then plug it into the USB port. Windows Explorer starts,
    and I transfer the files I want.
     
    Jeff Strickland, Sep 7, 2009
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  6. "James D. Andrews" <> wrote in message
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    > "Jeff Strickland" <> wrote in message
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    >>
    >> "- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote in message
    >> news:h830q5$hun$-september.org...
    >>>
    >>> "paul nicholson" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:c8aac$4aa13f59$50db1c80$...
    >>>> Can anyone help me with the following problem? The hard disk on my PC
    >>>> was recently damaged and nothing can be retrieved or rescued from it.
    >>>> All of my friends and families email addresses are on Outlook Express.
    >>>> Is the ANY way at all of retrieving these email addresses. I have even
    >>>> removed the hard disk and taken it to a PC shop but no luck. If anyone
    >>>> can help I will be eternally gratefull. Thank you.
    >>> What did the "person at the PC shop" say was bad ?
    >>> Have you tried is as a SECOND drive in a system ? ( not trying to boot,
    >>> but just try to read from it with windows running on another drive)
    >>>
    >>>

    >
    >> Bobb is right.
    >>
    >> I have had three HDDs fail in the past year. I was able to get data off
    >> of them by getting another drive to boot from, then using the "failed
    >> drive" as a slave (with a drive letter above C), and simply drag the
    >> stuff I wanted to the new drive.
    >>
    >> I picked up a cool device for $25 that has a pair of IDE connections and
    >> a SATA connection, a power supply, and some patch cords. This turns any
    >> drive into a USB drive. I simply boot the system, connect the device to
    >> to the "failed drive", and then plug it into the USB port. Windows
    >> Explorer starts, and I transfer the files I want.
    >>

    >
    > What is this wonder called? It sounds like something I'd like to get my
    > hands on.
    > In fact, it sounds like something that could have saved me dozens of
    > hours.
    >
    >
    >


    EZ-Connect. I found mine at Frys. The maker is an outfit called Kingwin. You
    can find them at www.kingwin.com
    I have model USI-2535.
     
    Jeff Strickland, Sep 7, 2009
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  7. paul nicholson

    JD Guest


    > What is this wonder called? It sounds like something I'd like to get my
    > hands on.
    > In fact, it sounds like something that could have saved me dozens of hours.
    >
    >
    >


    I also have one of these devices they are ok, a Sharkoon Drive port Pro
    is much better (only works with SATA not IDE tho) it sits on your
    desktop and can connect via USB or E-SATA its very convenient.

    JD
     
    JD, Sep 7, 2009
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  8. paul nicholson

    - Bobb - Guest

    "Jeff Strickland" <> wrote in message
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    >>
    >> "Jeff Strickland" <> wrote in message
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    >>>
    >>> "- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote in message
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    >>>>
    >>>> "paul nicholson" <> wrote in message
    >>>> news:c8aac$4aa13f59$50db1c80$...
    >>>>> Can anyone help me with the following problem? The hard disk on my PC
    >>>>> was recently damaged and nothing can be retrieved or rescued from it.
    >>>>> All of my friends and families email addresses are on Outlook Express.
    >>>>> Is the ANY way at all of retrieving these email addresses. I have even
    >>>>> removed the hard disk and taken it to a PC shop but no luck. If anyone
    >>>>> can help I will be eternally gratefull. Thank you.
    >>>> What did the "person at the PC shop" say was bad ?
    >>>> Have you tried is as a SECOND drive in a system ? ( not trying to boot,
    >>>> but just try to read from it with windows running on another drive)
    >>>>
    >>>>

    >>
    >>> Bobb is right.
    >>>
    >>> I have had three HDDs fail in the past year. I was able to get data off
    >>> of them by getting another drive to boot from, then using the "failed
    >>> drive" as a slave (with a drive letter above C), and simply drag the
    >>> stuff I wanted to the new drive.
    >>>
    >>> I picked up a cool device for $25 that has a pair of IDE connections and
    >>> a SATA connection, a power supply, and some patch cords. This turns any
    >>> drive into a USB drive. I simply boot the system, connect the device to
    >>> to the "failed drive", and then plug it into the USB port. Windows
    >>> Explorer starts, and I transfer the files I want.
    >>>

    >>
    >> What is this wonder called? It sounds like something I'd like to get my
    >> hands on.
    >> In fact, it sounds like something that could have saved me dozens of
    >> hours.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    > EZ-Connect. I found mine at Frys. The maker is an outfit called Kingwin.
    > You can find them at www.kingwin.com
    > I have model USI-2535.


    I need to get one of those too: no more opening cabinet/ laying bad drive on
    floor and hanging a drive cable.
    I checked - local store has 'em - picking up tomorrow.
    Thanks
     
    - Bobb -, Sep 7, 2009
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  9. "- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote in message
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    > "Jeff Strickland" <> wrote in message
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    >>
    >> "James D. Andrews" <> wrote in message
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    >>>
    >>> "Jeff Strickland" <> wrote in message
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    >>>>
    >>>> "- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote in message
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    >>>>>
    >>>>> "paul nicholson" <> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:c8aac$4aa13f59$50db1c80$...
    >>>>>> Can anyone help me with the following problem? The hard disk on my PC
    >>>>>> was recently damaged and nothing can be retrieved or rescued from it.
    >>>>>> All of my friends and families email addresses are on Outlook
    >>>>>> Express. Is the ANY way at all of retrieving these email addresses. I
    >>>>>> have even removed the hard disk and taken it to a PC shop but no
    >>>>>> luck. If anyone can help I will be eternally gratefull. Thank you.
    >>>>> What did the "person at the PC shop" say was bad ?
    >>>>> Have you tried is as a SECOND drive in a system ? ( not trying to
    >>>>> boot, but just try to read from it with windows running on another
    >>>>> drive)
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>
    >>>> Bobb is right.
    >>>>
    >>>> I have had three HDDs fail in the past year. I was able to get data off
    >>>> of them by getting another drive to boot from, then using the "failed
    >>>> drive" as a slave (with a drive letter above C), and simply drag the
    >>>> stuff I wanted to the new drive.
    >>>>
    >>>> I picked up a cool device for $25 that has a pair of IDE connections
    >>>> and a SATA connection, a power supply, and some patch cords. This turns
    >>>> any drive into a USB drive. I simply boot the system, connect the
    >>>> device to to the "failed drive", and then plug it into the USB port.
    >>>> Windows Explorer starts, and I transfer the files I want.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> What is this wonder called? It sounds like something I'd like to get my
    >>> hands on.
    >>> In fact, it sounds like something that could have saved me dozens of
    >>> hours.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> EZ-Connect. I found mine at Frys. The maker is an outfit called Kingwin.
    >> You can find them at www.kingwin.com
    >> I have model USI-2535.

    >
    > I need to get one of those too: no more opening cabinet/ laying bad drive
    > on floor and hanging a drive cable.
    > I checked - local store has 'em - picking up tomorrow.
    > Thanks
    >
    >
    >


    It's very useful to make any IDE or SATA drive into a USB drive. It has a
    connection for a 2.5 or 3.5 inch IDE, so you can take a drive from a laptop
    and connect to another machine. I've recovered data from both types of IDE.
    It's not the product needed to add a drive, but it's great for recovery.
     
    Jeff Strickland, Sep 7, 2009
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  10. paul nicholson

    - Bobb - Guest

    "Jeff Strickland" <> wrote in message
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    >
    > "- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote in message
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    >>
    >> "Jeff Strickland" <> wrote in message
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    <<snipped and renamed >>

    >>>>> I picked up a cool device for $25 that has a pair of IDE connections
    >>>>> and a SATA connection, a power supply, and some patch cords. This
    >>>>> turns any drive into a USB drive. I simply boot the system, connect
    >>>>> the device to to the "failed drive", and then plug it into the USB
    >>>>> port. Windows Explorer starts, and I transfer the files I want.
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> What is this wonder called?
    >>>
    >>> EZ-Connect. I found mine at Frys. The maker is an outfit called Kingwin.
    >>> You can find them at www.kingwin.com
    >>> I have model USI-2535.

    >>
    >> I need to get one of those too: no more opening cabinet/ laying bad drive
    >> on floor and hanging a drive cable.
    >> I checked - local store has 'em - picking up tomorrow.
    >> Thanks

    >
    > It's very useful to make any IDE or SATA drive into a USB drive. It has a
    > connection for a 2.5 or 3.5 inch IDE, so you can take a drive from a
    > laptop and connect to another machine. I've recovered data from both types
    > of IDE. It's not the product needed to add a drive, but it's great for
    > recovery.

    Currently I use 2/5" or 3.5" to IDE adapter /connectors I got at local
    computer show. (I posted info here before)
    I'll only use it for recovery or temporarily adding more drives than
    internal bus can handle. As with you folks, it's usually it's not MY data -
    family ... can you help me ?... One year , week before semester end - niece
    called - had crapped out - she had all of her schoolwork on laptop/ no
    backup and needed the files to graduate ! It wouldn't boot but I could
    retrieve her stuff by adding to my PC.
    It'll be worth the $15.
     
    - Bobb -, Sep 7, 2009
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  11. "- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote in message
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    >
    > "Jeff Strickland" <> wrote in message
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    >>
    >> "- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote in message
    >> news:h83k80$nbq$-september.org...
    >>>
    >>> "Jeff Strickland" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:h83igr$805$-september.org...

    > <<snipped and renamed >>
    >
    >>>>>> I picked up a cool device for $25 that has a pair of IDE connections
    >>>>>> and a SATA connection, a power supply, and some patch cords. This
    >>>>>> turns any drive into a USB drive. I simply boot the system, connect
    >>>>>> the device to to the "failed drive", and then plug it into the USB
    >>>>>> port. Windows Explorer starts, and I transfer the files I want.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> What is this wonder called?
    >>>>
    >>>> EZ-Connect. I found mine at Frys. The maker is an outfit called
    >>>> Kingwin. You can find them at www.kingwin.com
    >>>> I have model USI-2535.
    >>>
    >>> I need to get one of those too: no more opening cabinet/ laying bad
    >>> drive on floor and hanging a drive cable.
    >>> I checked - local store has 'em - picking up tomorrow.
    >>> Thanks

    >>
    >> It's very useful to make any IDE or SATA drive into a USB drive. It has a
    >> connection for a 2.5 or 3.5 inch IDE, so you can take a drive from a
    >> laptop and connect to another machine. I've recovered data from both
    >> types of IDE. It's not the product needed to add a drive, but it's great
    >> for recovery.

    > Currently I use 2/5" or 3.5" to IDE adapter /connectors I got at local
    > computer show. (I posted info here before)
    > I'll only use it for recovery or temporarily adding more drives than
    > internal bus can handle. As with you folks, it's usually it's not MY
    > data - family ... can you help me ?... One year , week before semester
    > end - niece called - had crapped out - she had all of her schoolwork on
    > laptop/ no backup and needed the files to graduate ! It wouldn't boot but
    > I could retrieve her stuff by adding to my PC.
    > It'll be worth the $15.
    >
    >



    $15? CRAP!

    Mine was $25.
     
    Jeff Strickland, Sep 7, 2009
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  12. paul nicholson

    JD Guest

    Jeff Strickland wrote:
    > "- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote in message
    > news:h83quu$iik$-september.org...
    >> "Jeff Strickland" <> wrote in message
    >> news:h83l61$vk0$-september.org...
    >>> "- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote in message
    >>> news:h83k80$nbq$-september.org...
    >>>> "Jeff Strickland" <> wrote in message
    >>>> news:h83igr$805$-september.org...

    >> <<snipped and renamed >>
    >>
    >>>>>>> I picked up a cool device for $25 that has a pair of IDE connections
    >>>>>>> and a SATA connection, a power supply, and some patch cords. This
    >>>>>>> turns any drive into a USB drive. I simply boot the system, connect
    >>>>>>> the device to to the "failed drive", and then plug it into the USB
    >>>>>>> port. Windows Explorer starts, and I transfer the files I want.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>> What is this wonder called?
    >>>>> EZ-Connect. I found mine at Frys. The maker is an outfit called
    >>>>> Kingwin. You can find them at www.kingwin.com
    >>>>> I have model USI-2535.
    >>>> I need to get one of those too: no more opening cabinet/ laying bad
    >>>> drive on floor and hanging a drive cable.
    >>>> I checked - local store has 'em - picking up tomorrow.
    >>>> Thanks
    >>> It's very useful to make any IDE or SATA drive into a USB drive. It has a
    >>> connection for a 2.5 or 3.5 inch IDE, so you can take a drive from a
    >>> laptop and connect to another machine. I've recovered data from both
    >>> types of IDE. It's not the product needed to add a drive, but it's great
    >>> for recovery.

    >> Currently I use 2/5" or 3.5" to IDE adapter /connectors I got at local
    >> computer show. (I posted info here before)
    >> I'll only use it for recovery or temporarily adding more drives than
    >> internal bus can handle. As with you folks, it's usually it's not MY
    >> data - family ... can you help me ?... One year , week before semester
    >> end - niece called - had crapped out - she had all of her schoolwork on
    >> laptop/ no backup and needed the files to graduate ! It wouldn't boot but
    >> I could retrieve her stuff by adding to my PC.
    >> It'll be worth the $15.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    > $15? CRAP!
    >
    > Mine was $25.
    >
    >


    You got off light mine was £45 ($80, the shop had big windows lol)

    I guess you guys are still using XP or below for doing your data
    recovery, as vista onward introduce or rather force the owner
    permissions on files and directories which is a real pain in the ass, as
    you have to change the owner/group permissions to the current user of
    the machine you are on (i.e. vista / Win 7)
    so if your going to be upgrading to win 7 which is no bad thing (and I
    cannot stand vista btw)
    the work around for this is to run a virtual machine with the addition's
    package which will let you give USB control over to the virtual machine
    which you run windows XP on, which is quite handy as you can have VM's
    set up with different anti virus packages etc that you may not want to
    run permanently on your own machine.



    JD
     
    JD, Sep 7, 2009
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  13. paul nicholson

    - Bobb - Guest

    Re: IDE/ sata - USB adapter

    "JD" <> wrote in message
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    <snip>
    > I guess you guys are still using XP or below for doing your data recovery,
    > as vista onward introduce or rather force the owner permissions on files
    > and directories which is a real pain in the ass, as you have to change the
    > owner/group permissions to the current user of the machine you are on
    > (i.e. vista / Win 7)
    > so if your going to be upgrading to win 7 which is no bad thing (and I
    > cannot stand vista btw)
    > the work around for this is to run a virtual machine with the addition's
    > package which will let you give USB control over to the virtual machine
    > which you run windows XP on, which is quite handy as you can have VM's set
    > up with different anti virus packages etc that you may not want to run
    > permanently on your own machine.
    >
    > JD


    I bought PC's during last days of XP so I was entitled to Vista, got the
    DVD's and - stayed at XP. I had beta-tested Vista and when testing was done,
    gladly reimaged that partition to XP. Permissions, etc for a standalone PC
    were a nuisance and XP was fine. ( if it ain't broke ...) . I have used /
    like Win7. I did pre-buy upgrade via Bestbuy website a few months ago and
    will get a different PC for XP / testing ( craiglist) and might go with
    Win7 for daily PC. I haven't messed with VM's - haven't had a need - yet..
     
    - Bobb -, Sep 7, 2009
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  14. paul nicholson

    JD Guest

    Re: IDE/ sata - USB adapter

    - Bobb - wrote:

    <<<<SNIP>>>

    >
    > I bought PC's during last days of XP so I was entitled to Vista, got the
    > DVD's and - stayed at XP. I had beta-tested Vista and when testing was done,
    > gladly reimaged that partition to XP. Permissions, etc for a standalone PC
    > were a nuisance and XP was fine. ( if it ain't broke ...) . I have used /
    > like Win7. I did pre-buy upgrade via Bestbuy website a few months ago and
    > will get a different PC for XP / testing ( craiglist) and might go with
    > Win7 for daily PC. I haven't messed with VM's - haven't had a need - yet..
    >
    >


    I was using win 2000 but when they officially killed it I moved
    grudgingly to XP, which I must admit I didn't like at first, however it
    did grow on me and I have to say it was/is a pretty decent OS, vista I
    tried for a bit but its just to damn annoying.

    I have been using Win7 for a bit now have the RC1 loaded and running as
    my main machine I also bought the "upgrade" altho I get the full Retail
    version :)) as I'm in the EU, I was glad it was shipping without the
    browser as its trivial to load your own and I don't like or use IE at
    all, but looks like I will be getting the full version with a browser
    now I'm glad I had the foresight to order the Win7 pro package as it was
    dirt cheap. as for "if it ain't broke" that's true to a point it's
    certainly not broke but it has been around for a while and you know
    hardware manufacturers just love to stop supporting there older hardware
    so you buy there latest and greatest things.

    VM's are very handy indeed I used to run 3/4 pc's at once but I got rid
    of them and build up a Qaud core, which is better for my electricity
    bill, and I can just have VM's for my Linux,BSD, webserver/php testing
    or whatever I need to do, but what I find it especially useful for is
    fixing heavily infested computers I just stick the hard drive in my
    machine (with auto play turned off on all devices of coarse) hand over
    control to my XP virtual machine and run the antivirus/ malware programs
    without worrying about infecting my own machine.

    JD
     
    JD, Sep 8, 2009
    #14
  15. paul nicholson

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    - Bobb -, Sep 10, 2009
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