OT - Uploading photos on a websitte

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by Marcel, Nov 10, 2004.

  1. Marcel

    Marcel Guest

    Hi all!

    I'm trying to upload a photo album on my new website, IPowerweb. I had no
    problemn with the rest of my Website, except for my albums.

    I'm using Photoshop CS to automate the "web photo gallery". Once finished,
    Photoshop produces the following sub-folders and files, all in the same
    folder (let's call it "gallery02"): "images", "pages", "thumbnails" and a
    few files such as "index.htm", "thumbnailframe.htm" and
    "userselections.txt".

    If I click on "index.htm" on my hard drive, I get an automatic slide show
    and it works very well. However, when I upload everything (keeping all
    folders, subfolders and files the same), I get a partial truncated view, not
    what I get on my hard drive. I use WS_FTP PRO to upload everything,
    including my album. I'm on Widows XP, 1 gig of Ram.

    Can someone enlighten me, please?

    Thanks,

    Marcel
     
    Marcel, Nov 10, 2004
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  2. Marcel

    Owamanga Guest

    On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 08:50:12 -0500, "Marcel" <>
    wrote:

    >Hi all!
    >
    >I'm trying to upload a photo album on my new website, IPowerweb. I had no
    >problemn with the rest of my Website, except for my albums.
    >
    >I'm using Photoshop CS to automate the "web photo gallery". Once finished,
    >Photoshop produces the following sub-folders and files, all in the same
    >folder (let's call it "gallery02"): "images", "pages", "thumbnails" and a
    >few files such as "index.htm", "thumbnailframe.htm" and
    >"userselections.txt".
    >
    >If I click on "index.htm" on my hard drive, I get an automatic slide show
    >and it works very well. However, when I upload everything (keeping all
    >folders, subfolders and files the same), I get a partial truncated view, not
    >what I get on my hard drive. I use WS_FTP PRO to upload everything,
    >including my album. I'm on Widows XP, 1 gig of Ram.
    >
    >Can someone enlighten me, please?
    >
    >Thanks,
    >
    >Marcel


    I'll need the website address to see what's wrong.

    Possibly your web server is case-sensitive for filenames where Windows
    isn't. But I wouldn't have thought Photoshop would have made that
    mistake.

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    Owamanga!
     
    Owamanga, Nov 10, 2004
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  3. Marcel

    Marcel Guest

    Thanks for answering!

    My website is:
    http://www.celestart.com
    I attempted to upload my photo gallery into "confection_icone", a folder in
    which I placed all the subfolders as well as the files produced by
    Photoshop:
    http://www.celestart.com/images/confection_icone/index.htm

    The strange thing is that if I point to a picture, it works:
    http://www.celestart.com/images/confection_icone/images/064.jpg

    In the same way, I placed my monthly Newsletter for our scuba club:
    http://celestart.com/owlmanac/ and that works well.

    Marcel
    ______________________

    "Owamanga" <> wrote in message
    news:eek:...
    > On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 08:50:12 -0500, "Marcel" <>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Hi all!
    > >
    > >I'm trying to upload a photo album on my new website, IPowerweb. I had no
    > >problemn with the rest of my Website, except for my albums.
    > >
    > >I'm using Photoshop CS to automate the "web photo gallery". Once

    finished,
    > >Photoshop produces the following sub-folders and files, all in the same
    > >folder (let's call it "gallery02"): "images", "pages", "thumbnails" and

    a
    > >few files such as "index.htm", "thumbnailframe.htm" and
    > >"userselections.txt".
    > >
    > >If I click on "index.htm" on my hard drive, I get an automatic slide show
    > >and it works very well. However, when I upload everything (keeping all
    > >folders, subfolders and files the same), I get a partial truncated view,

    not
    > >what I get on my hard drive. I use WS_FTP PRO to upload everything,
    > >including my album. I'm on Widows XP, 1 gig of Ram.
    > >
    > >Can someone enlighten me, please?
    > >
    > >Thanks,
    > >
    > >Marcel

    >
    > I'll need the website address to see what's wrong.
    >
    > Possibly your web server is case-sensitive for filenames where Windows
    > isn't. But I wouldn't have thought Photoshop would have made that
    > mistake.
    >
    > --
    > Owamanga!
     
    Marcel, Nov 10, 2004
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  4. Marcel

    Ed Ruf Guest

    On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:49:43 -0500, in rec.photo.digital "Marcel"
    <> wrote:


    >My website is:
    >http://www.celestart.com
    >I attempted to upload my photo gallery into "confection_icone", a folder in
    >which I placed all the subfolders as well as the files produced by
    >Photoshop:
    >http://www.celestart.com/images/confection_icone/index.htm


    If you look at the source of this page it says it was created by MS
    FrontPage 5.0, not PS. If I try this page in MS IE 6 it gives runtime
    errors.



    >The strange thing is that if I point to a picture, it works:
    >http://www.celestart.com/images/confection_icone/images/064.jpg


    This is just a jpg being displayed without any html.



    >In the same way, I placed my monthly Newsletter for our scuba club:
    >http://celestart.com/owlmanac/ and that works well.


    This page was genretaed in Netscape 4.75.
    ________________________________________________________
    Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 ()
    See images taken with my CP-990 and 5700 at
    http://EdwardGRuf.com
     
    Ed Ruf, Nov 10, 2004
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  5. Marcel

    Marcel Guest

    "Ed Ruf" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > If you look at the source of this page it says it was created by MS
    > FrontPage 5.0, not PS. If I try this page in MS IE 6 it gives runtime
    > errors.
    >

    What I did originally was to create the album using Photoshop CS.
    After I had all the files created, I transferred them to the website, using
    WS_FTP PRO.
    This morning, I tried "something" ;-( Using Frontpage, I saved the
    "index.htm" and uploaded it. It didn't work either.
    Everything I've done so far was created using Netscape 4.75.
    Perhaps you can explain to me why the whole thing works on my HD and would
    not on the server. Is it not another HD?

    Thanks,

    Marcel
     
    Marcel, Nov 10, 2004
    #5
  6. Marcel

    Ed Ruf Guest

    On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:00:58 -0500, in rec.photo.digital "Marcel"
    <> wrote:

    >Perhaps you can explain to me why the whole thing works on my HD and would
    >not on the server. Is it not another HD?


    Most servers are unix based systems and their files systems are case
    sensitive, and do not allow the use of spaces and other
    non-alphanumeric characters. Do have any of these issues? Also,
    something to look at is how the index.html page on your PC has the
    filename/paths specified. It might to coded for your hard drive file
    hierarchy and not the file hierarchy of the web account.
    ________________________________________________________
    Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 ()
    See images taken with my CP-990 and 5700 at
    http://EdwardGRuf.com
     
    Ed Ruf, Nov 10, 2004
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  7. Marcel

    Owamanga Guest

    On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:00:58 -0500, "Marcel" <>
    wrote:

    >"Ed Ruf" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >>
    >> If you look at the source of this page it says it was created by MS
    >> FrontPage 5.0, not PS. If I try this page in MS IE 6 it gives runtime
    >> errors.
    >>

    >What I did originally was to create the album using Photoshop CS.
    >After I had all the files created, I transferred them to the website, using
    >WS_FTP PRO.
    >This morning, I tried "something" ;-( Using Frontpage, I saved the
    >"index.htm" and uploaded it. It didn't work either.


    Please don't use Frontpage. It'll give you more headaches than help.

    Right now, the bottom frame can't find the file 'ThumbnailFrame.htm'
    in the directory '/images/confection_icone/'

    IFRAMES look terrible, and are not well supported by older browsers.

    >Everything I've done so far was created using Netscape 4.75.
    >Perhaps you can explain to me why the whole thing works on my HD and would
    >not on the server. Is it not another HD?


    As both I and Ed have mentioned, the way filenames are interpreted by
    the server software is different to how your own PC interprets
    filenames on the HD.

    Take for example this filename:

    MyPicture.jpg

    is different to:

    MYPICTURE.jpg
    MyPiCtUrE.jpg

    ...as far as the web server is concerned, but on your hard drive, these
    are all one file.

    ...So, if you (or software you use) uploads a file called
    'MyPicture.jpg' it is essential that any web pages referring to it,
    have *exactly* that as the filename, not 'MYPICTURE.jpg' for example.

    Web Servers can be fussy, Windows OS is not.

    My policy is to keep all filenames lowercase, avoid spaces in
    filenames (use underscores instead) and don't use any funny
    characters.

    --
    Owamanga!
     
    Owamanga, Nov 10, 2004
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  8. Marcel

    Marcel Guest

    Thank you Owamanga!
    I've reviewed most of the files so far and everything's OK as far as
    characters go.
    I didn't think I was using IFRAMES... Are these produced by Photoshop CS in
    automating the web photo package?
    I'm waiting for my copy of Adobe Golive. I suppose that this software
    coupled with Photoshop should help me out. I hope so, because I have 1000
    megs with my website and I intend to use most of it to post photo albums.
    You wrote 'ThumbnailFrame.htm'. How did you know there were those capital
    letters? I was looking into it but I'm sure I changed them to lower case.
    Anyway, I "ruled" that WS_FTP PRO should change all letters to lower case.
    Marcel

    "Owamanga" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:00:58 -0500, "Marcel" <>
    > Please don't use Frontpage. It'll give you more headaches than help.
    >
    > Right now, the bottom frame can't find the file 'ThumbnailFrame.htm'
    > in the directory '/images/confection_icone/'
    >
    > IFRAMES look terrible, and are not well supported by older browsers.
     
    Marcel, Nov 10, 2004
    #8
  9. Owamanga wrote:
    []
    > Please don't use Frontpage. It'll give you more headaches than help.


    FrontPage is an excellent tool for people who know MS Word and who want to
    get a site up-and-running rather than spend their lives learning about the
    minutiae of HTML. It handles the case-sensitivity issuse you pointed to,
    and provides both page eidting and site management facilities.

    There may be better tools, and there are certainly more expensive tools,
    but FrontPage is a good all-round product.

    Cheers,
    David
     
    David J Taylor, Nov 10, 2004
    #9
  10. Marcel

    Owamanga Guest

    On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:23:12 -0000, "David J Taylor"
    <> wrote:

    >Owamanga wrote:
    >[]
    >> Please don't use Frontpage. It'll give you more headaches than help.

    >
    >FrontPage is an excellent tool for people who know MS Word and who want to
    >get a site up-and-running rather than spend their lives learning about the
    >minutiae of HTML. It handles the case-sensitivity issuse you pointed to,
    >and provides both page eidting and site management facilities.
    >
    >There may be better tools, and there are certainly more expensive tools,
    >but FrontPage is a good all-round product.
    >
    >Cheers,
    >David


    I admit I rejected it as a piece of shit on it's first release. Maybe
    it's better now, but I remember it needed a crap-load of extensions
    that weren't standard on Linux website boxes.

    --
    Owamanga!
     
    Owamanga, Nov 10, 2004
    #10
  11. Re: OT - Uploading photos on a website

    Owamanga wrote:
    []
    > I admit I rejected it as a piece of sh** on it's first release. Maybe
    > it's better now, but I remember it needed a cr**-load of extensions
    > that weren't standard on Linux website boxes.


    It's matured a lot since the product that Vermeer Technologies released to
    the world. It can take advantage of the FrontPage extensions if they are
    installed - and they are available for many platforms including UNIX and
    LINUX - but they are not essential. For the person who doesn't want to
    dig too deeply, FrontPage makes a good starting point.

    Cheers,
    David
     
    David J Taylor, Nov 10, 2004
    #11
  12. Marcel

    Owamanga Guest

    On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:19:15 -0500, "Marcel" <>
    wrote:

    >Thank you Owamanga!
    >I've reviewed most of the files so far and everything's OK as far as
    >characters go.
    >I didn't think I was using IFRAMES... Are these produced by Photoshop CS in
    >automating the web photo package?


    Possibly, I need to play with this in CS to be sure. Can you tell me
    what settings you chose when you made the gallery?

    >I'm waiting for my copy of Adobe Golive. I suppose that this software
    >coupled with Photoshop should help me out. I hope so, because I have 1000
    >megs with my website and I intend to use most of it to post photo albums.


    Well, photoshop *should* be capable of doing most of the work for you.

    >You wrote 'ThumbnailFrame.htm'. How did you know there were those capital
    >letters? I was looking into it but I'm sure I changed them to lower case.


    From the browser (use IE for this) go to your broken page then right
    click the mouse somewhere on the page and choose 'View Source'.

    You should see a page of gibberish (HTML), these are the instructions
    for the browser on how to display the page. Now search within the
    source for '.htm' (without the quotes), and '.jpg' to check the link
    filenames.

    >Anyway, I "ruled" that WS_FTP PRO should change all letters to lower case.
    >Marcel


    Not good enough, this won't change filenames within the HTML from
    still having capitals. In fact, switching this option on and taking no
    other action might even be causing your problem.

    --
    Owamanga!
     
    Owamanga, Nov 10, 2004
    #12
  13. Marcel

    Marcel Guest

    Hi again!

    When I made the gallery, I chose "Horizontal slideshow".
    I looked at the html codes, but it doesn't tell me where I went wrong. Sorry
    but I feel like a useless tool.
    Marcel

    <html>
    <head>
    <title>Confection d'une icone</title>
    <meta name="generator" content="Microsoft FrontPage 5.0">
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
    <link href="images/galleryStyle.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">
    <script language="javascript">
    <!--
    var isMainPageLoaded = false;

    function init() {
    //Create a timer to check to see if the bottom frame is loaded
    //before calling into it.
    if (top.BottomFrame.isBottomFrameLoaded) {
    top.BottomFrame.setArrows();
    } else {
    setTimeout("init()", 10);
    }
    }

    //-->
    </script>
    </head>
    <body leftmargin="0" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" topmargin="0"
    bgcolor="#006666" onload="isMainPageLoaded = true; init();">
    <div align="center" class="mainCenter">
    <table width="90%" height="97%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
    <tr>
    <td align="center">
    <table>
    <tr>
    <td>
    <a onmouseover="window.status='Previous Image'; return true;"
    onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"
    href="javascript:top.BottomFrame.previousImage();"><img name="previous1"
    src="images/previous_disabled.gif" width="36" height="19" vspace="2"
    hspace="1" border="0" alt="Previous Image"></a>
    </td>
    <td>
    <a onmouseover="top.BottomFrame.togglePlayPauseImg('over');
    window.status='Start or Stop Slide Show'; return true;"
    onmouseout="top.BottomFrame.togglePlayPauseImg('out'); window.status='';
    return true;" href="javascript:top.BottomFrame.togglePlayPauseState();"><img
    name="pausePlay1" src="images/spacer.gif" width="19" height="19" vspace="2"
    hspace="1" border="0" alt="Play/Pause"></a>
    </td>
    <td>
    <a onmouseover="window.status='Next Image'; return true;"
    onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"
    href="javascript:top.BottomFrame.nextImage();"><img name="next1"
    src="images/next_disabled.gif" width="36" height="19" vspace="2" hspace="1"
    border="0" alt="Next Image"></a>
    </td>
    </tr>
    </table>
    </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>



    "Owamanga" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:19:15 -0500, "Marcel" <>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Thank you Owamanga!
    > >I've reviewed most of the files so far and everything's OK as far as
    > >characters go.
    > >I didn't think I was using IFRAMES... Are these produced by Photoshop CS

    in
    > >automating the web photo package?

    >
    > Possibly, I need to play with this in CS to be sure. Can you tell me
    > what settings you chose when you made the gallery?
    >
    > >I'm waiting for my copy of Adobe Golive. I suppose that this software
    > >coupled with Photoshop should help me out. I hope so, because I have 1000
    > >megs with my website and I intend to use most of it to post photo albums.

    >
    > Well, photoshop *should* be capable of doing most of the work for you.
    >
    > >You wrote 'ThumbnailFrame.htm'. How did you know there were those capital
    > >letters? I was looking into it but I'm sure I changed them to lower case.

    >
    > From the browser (use IE for this) go to your broken page then right
    > click the mouse somewhere on the page and choose 'View Source'.
    >
    > You should see a page of gibberish (HTML), these are the instructions
    > for the browser on how to display the page. Now search within the
    > source for '.htm' (without the quotes), and '.jpg' to check the link
    > filenames.
    >
    > >Anyway, I "ruled" that WS_FTP PRO should change all letters to lower

    case.
    > >Marcel

    >
    > Not good enough, this won't change filenames within the HTML from
    > still having capitals. In fact, switching this option on and taking no
    > other action might even be causing your problem.
    >
    > --
    > Owamanga!
     
    Marcel, Nov 10, 2004
    #13
  14. Marcel

    Ed Ruf Guest

    On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:23:12 -0000, in rec.photo.digital "David J Taylor"
    <> wrote:

    >Owamanga wrote:
    >[]
    >> Please don't use Frontpage. It'll give you more headaches than help.

    >
    >FrontPage is an excellent tool for people who know MS Word and who want to
    >get a site up-and-running rather than spend their lives learning about the
    >minutiae of HTML. It handles the case-sensitivity issuse you pointed to,
    >and provides both page eidting and site management facilities.


    As I use Dreamweaver I can't speak to the FP abilities to handle these
    things. To be sure they are handled properly though, I would expect you
    would need to use FP to "publish" the pages, no? Or maybe choose a
    preference setting to do so? In DW there are specific preferences to encode
    special characters in URL's with % and in tag attributes with & that are
    not enabled by default.

    ________________________________________________________
    Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 ()
    http://EdwardGRuf.com
     
    Ed Ruf, Nov 10, 2004
    #14
  15. Marcel

    Marcel Guest

    Hi Ed!

    I think you touched upon something important. My problem is that I used a
    variety of software to get on the web. For instance, I used Netscape to
    format the pages. Then, when it wasn't working, I used FP. In either case, I
    was uploading with something diffrent. I'M very sorry, cause I'm OT and I
    make you waste your time.

    Marcel


    "Ed Ruf" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:23:12 -0000, in rec.photo.digital "David J Taylor"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    > >Owamanga wrote:
    > >[]
    > >> Please don't use Frontpage. It'll give you more headaches than help.

    > >
    > >FrontPage is an excellent tool for people who know MS Word and who want

    to
    > >get a site up-and-running rather than spend their lives learning about

    the
    > >minutiae of HTML. It handles the case-sensitivity issuse you pointed to,
    > >and provides both page eidting and site management facilities.

    >
    > As I use Dreamweaver I can't speak to the FP abilities to handle these
    > things. To be sure they are handled properly though, I would expect you
    > would need to use FP to "publish" the pages, no? Or maybe choose a
    > preference setting to do so? In DW there are specific preferences to

    encode
    > special characters in URL's with % and in tag attributes with & that are
    > not enabled by default.
    >
    > ________________________________________________________
    > Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 ()
    > http://EdwardGRuf.com
     
    Marcel, Nov 10, 2004
    #15
  16. Ed Ruf wrote:
    []
    > As I use Dreamweaver I can't speak to the FP abilities to handle these
    > things. To be sure they are handled properly though, I would expect
    > you would need to use FP to "publish" the pages, no? Or maybe choose a
    > preference setting to do so? In DW there are specific preferences to
    > encode special characters in URL's with % and in tag attributes with
    > & that are not enabled by default.


    FrontPage can publish via FTP or HTTP (and perhaps WebDAV in the
    furture?). It handles all the things like encoding spaces into file names
    (I always discourage people from doing this, though) and this is enabled
    by default. I am sure that DW is a fine tool as well.

    Cheers,
    David
     
    David J Taylor, Nov 11, 2004
    #16
  17. Marcel

    Big Bill Guest

    On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:00:07 -0500, "Marcel" <>
    wrote:

    >Hi Ed!
    >
    >I think you touched upon something important. My problem is that I used a
    >variety of software to get on the web. For instance, I used Netscape to
    >format the pages. Then, when it wasn't working, I used FP. In either case, I
    >was uploading with something diffrent. I'M very sorry, cause I'm OT and I
    >make you waste your time.
    >
    >Marcel


    The FTP client you use is immaterial to what you use to make the HTML
    files. All the FTP client does is transfer those HTML files to the web
    server.
    IOW, it doesn't matter that you uploaded with something different from
    FP.

    Bill Funk
    Change "g" to "a"
     
    Big Bill, Nov 11, 2004
    #17
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