OT: Certifications... Worth it?

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  1. Michael D. Alligood, Apr 7, 2007
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  2. "Michael D. Alligood" <> wrote in message
    news::

    > Here is a good article by Jennifer Waters concerning the question that
    > circulates these newsgroups. Are certifications worth it?
    >
    > http://blogs.technet.com/canitpro/a...oes-certification-matter-really-any-more.aspx
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Michael D. Alligood, MCSA, MCDST
    >
    > The I.T. Classroom - http://www.yetanotherblog.typepad.com/
    >
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    Crap... Sorry if that was HTML... <digging deeper hole>
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    Michael D. Alligood, MCSA, MCDST
    The I.T. Classroom - http://www.yetanotherblog.typepad.com/
    CertGuard - http://www.certguard.com
     
    Michael D. Alligood, Apr 7, 2007
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  3. Michael D. Alligood

    .rev [MCT] Guest

    Re: Certifications... Worth it?

    IT Certifications are worthless without experience. Knowledge is power.
    Certification is paper. Also I've decided to amend my signature to more
    easily blend in with the new look of the NG's.

    Rev. Stephen Charles Rea D.Div [MCNGP #44]
    --
    Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP Windows XP Professional)
    Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator (MCSA Windows 2003 Server)
    Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator: Messaging (MCSAM Windows 2003
    Server)
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    Server)
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    Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer: Messaging (MCSEM Windows 2003 Server)
    Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer: Security (MCSES Windows 2003 Server)
    Microsoft Certified Desktop Support Technician (MCDST Windows XP
    Professional)
    Microsoft Certified Database Administrator (MCDBA SQL Server 2000)
    Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist (MCTS SQL Server 2005)
    Microsoft Certified IT Professional: Database Administrator (MCITP:DBA SQL
    Server 2005)
    Microsoft Certified Trainer (MCT)
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    "Michael D. Alligood" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Here is a good article by Jennifer Waters concerning the question that
    > circulates these newsgroups. Are certifications worth it?
    >
    > http://blogs.technet.com/canitpro/a...oes-certification-matter-really-any-more.aspx
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Michael D. Alligood, MCSA, MCDST
    >
    > The I.T. Classroom - http://www.yetanotherblog.typepad.com/
    >
    > CertGuard - http://www.certguard.com
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
     
    .rev [MCT], Apr 7, 2007
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  4. Re: Certifications... Worth it?

    ".rev [MCT]" <> wrote in message
    news::

    <serious snippage>

    > Register your next MCP exam with VUE and save 20%. Use the discount voucher
    > code, MSUU7C1E9359 Register online at vue.com or by phone @ 800.837.8734


    So, is that a valid discount voucher code? :)
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    Michael D. Alligood, MCSA, MCDST
    The I.T. Classroom - http://www.yetanotherblog.typepad.com/
    CertGuard - http://www.certguard.com
     
    Michael D. Alligood, Apr 7, 2007
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  5. Michael D. Alligood

    catwalker63 Guest

    Re: Certifications... Worth it?

    Michael D. Alligood piffled away vaguely:

    > ".rev [MCT]" <> wrote in message
    > news::
    >
    > <serious snippage>
    >
    >> Register your next MCP exam with VUE and save 20%. Use the discount voucher
    >> code, MSUU7C1E9359 Register online at vue.com or by phone @ 800.837.8734

    >
    > So, is that a valid discount voucher code? :)


    Probably. He's an MCT so he can give it out. It's a good deal.
    --

    Catwalker
    MCNGP #43
    www.mcngp.com
    "I have a gun. It's loaded. Shut up."
     
    catwalker63, Apr 7, 2007
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  6. Michael D. Alligood

    .rev [MCT] Guest

    Re: Certifications... Worth it?

    I wouldn't have put it there if it weren't true.

    --
    ..rev
    ..
    "It is the mark of an educated man to be able to entertain a thought without
    accepting it"
    ~Aristotle
    ..
    "Michael D. Alligood" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > ".rev [MCT]" <> wrote in message
    > news::
    >
    > <serious snippage>
    >
    >> Register your next MCP exam with VUE and save 20%. Use the discount
    >> voucher
    >> code, MSUU7C1E9359 Register online at vue.com or by phone @ 800.837.8734

    >
    > So, is that a valid discount voucher code? :)
    > --
    > Michael D. Alligood, MCSA, MCDST
    > The I.T. Classroom - http://www.yetanotherblog.typepad.com/
    > CertGuard - http://www.certguard.com
    >
    >
     
    .rev [MCT], Apr 7, 2007
    #6
  7. Re: Certifications... Worth it?

    ".rev [MCT]" <> wrote in message
    news:#:

    > I wouldn't have put it there if it weren't true.
    >

    <snipped>

    I got your point concerning the sig. To me, the discount code was the
    only relevant information in it!

    --
    Michael D. Alligood, MCSA, MCDST
    The I.T. Classroom - http://www.yetanotherblog.typepad.com/
    CertGuard - http://www.certguard.com
     
    Michael D. Alligood, Apr 7, 2007
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  8. Michael D. Alligood

    .rev [MCT] Guest

    Re: Certifications... Worth it?

    Feel free to share. And I'm glad you got the point with my sig, but that
    wasn't the only relevant data you know. Stupid Laws are very important too.

    --
    ..rev
    ..
    "It is the mark of an educated man to be able to entertain a thought without
    accepting it"
    ~Aristotle
    ..
    "Michael D. Alligood" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > ".rev [MCT]" <> wrote in message
    > news:#:
    >
    >> I wouldn't have put it there if it weren't true.
    >>

    > <snipped>
    >
    > I got your point concerning the sig. To me, the discount code was the only
    > relevant information in it!
    >
    > --
    > Michael D. Alligood, MCSA, MCDST
    > The I.T. Classroom - http://www.yetanotherblog.typepad.com/
    > CertGuard - http://www.certguard.com
    >
    >
     
    .rev [MCT], Apr 7, 2007
    #8
  9. Michael D. Alligood

    Neil Guest

    Re: Certifications... Worth it?

    did you hear ".rev [MCT]" <> say in
    news::

    >
    > Also I've decided to amend my signature
    > to more easily blend in with the new look of the NG's.
    >
    > Rev. Stephen Charles Rea D.Div [MCNGP #44]
    > --
    > Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP Windows XP Professional)
    > Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator (MCSA Windows 2003 Server)
    > Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator: Messaging (MCSAM Windows
    > 2003 Server)
    > Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator: Security (MCSAS Windows
    > 2003 Server)
    > Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (MCSE Windows 2003 Server)
    > Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer: Messaging (MCSEM Windows 2003
    > Server) Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer: Security (MCSES Windows
    > 2003 Server) Microsoft Certified Desktop Support Technician (MCDST
    > Windows XP Professional)
    > Microsoft Certified Database Administrator (MCDBA SQL Server 2000)
    > Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist (MCTS SQL Server 2005)
    > Microsoft Certified IT Professional: Database Administrator (MCITP:DBA
    > SQL Server 2005)
    > Microsoft Certified Trainer (MCT)
    > CompTIA A+ Certified Professional
    > CompTIA Network+ Certified Professional
    > CompTIA Server+ Certified Professional
    > CompTIA i-Net+ Certified Professional
    > CompTIA e-Biz+ Certified Professional
    > CompTIA Project+ Certified Professional
    > CompTIA Security+ Certified Professional
    > ETA Computer Service Technician (CST)
    > ETA Certified Network Systems Technician (CNST)
    > ETA Certified Web Specialist (CWS)
    >
    > Register your next MCP exam with VUE and save 20%. Use the discount
    > voucher code, MSUU7C1E9359 Register online at vue.com or by phone @
    > 800.837.8734
    >
    > TechNet -
    > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/beta/moderators/rea.mspx
    >
    > MCNGP - http://www.mcngp.com
    >
    > Stupid Laws - http://www.justafreak.com/law/index.shtml
    >
    > Random Link - http://www.ipchicken.com/
    > .


    I'm only doing this because I'm mean and have no imminent desire for my
    MVP.

    oh and a cert without experience is more worthless than a BA in mideval
    lit.

    --
    The InterNeil MCNGP Triple X

    Microsoft Certified Professional Implementing and Supporting Microsoft®
    Windows NT™ Server 3.51
    Microsoft Certified Professional Implementing and Supporting Microsoft®
    Windows NT™ Workstation 3.51
    Microsoft Certified Professional Implementing and Supporting NT™ Server
    4.0
    Microsoft Certified Professional Networking Essentials
    Microsoft Certified Professional Implementing and Supporting Microsoft®
    Exchange Server 4.0
    Microsoft Certified Professional Implementing and Supporting NT™ 4.0
    Workstation
    Microsoft Certified Professional Implementing and Supporting Microsoft®
    Windows®95
    Microsoft Certified Professional Internetworking with Microsoft® TCP/IP
    on Microsoft® Windows NT™ 4.0
    Microsoft Certified Professional Implementing and Supporting NT™ Server
    4.0 in the Enterprise
    Microsoft Certified Professional Implementing and Supporting Microsoft®
    Exchange Server 5.5
    Microsoft Certified Professional System Administration of Microsoft® SQL
    Server™ 6.5
    Microsoft Certified Professional Implementing and Supporting Microsoft®
    Internet Information Server 4.0
    Microsoft Certified Professional Implementing & Supporting the Microsoft®
    Internet Explorer Admin Kit for Microsoft® IE 4.0
    Microsoft Certified Professional Implementing and Supporting Microsoft®
    Windows® 98
    Microsoft Certified Professional Updating Support Skills from Microsoft®
    Windows NT™ 4.0 to Windows™ 2000
    Microsoft Certified Professional Microsoft® Windows® 2000 Accelerated
    Exam for MCPs Certified on Microsoft® Windows NT® 4.0
    Microsoft Certified Professional Designing a Microsoft® Windows® 2000
    Directory Services Infrastructure
    Microsoft Certified Professional Supporting and Maintaining a Microsoft®
    Windows NT® Server 4.0 Network
    Microsoft Certified Professional Managing a Windows 2000 Network
    Environment
    Microsoft Certified Professional Installing, Configuring, and
    Administering Microsoft® SQL Server™ 2000 Enterprise Edition
    Microsoft Certified Professional Managing and Maintaining a Microsoft
    Windows Server 2003 Environment for an MCSA Certified on Windows 2000
    Microsoft Certified Professional Planning, Implementing, and Maintaining
    a Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Environment for an MCSE Certified on
    Windows 2000
    Microsoft Certified Professional Designing and Implementing Databases
    with Microsoft® SQL Server™ 2000 Enterprise Edition
    Microsoft Certified Professional Supporting Users and Troubleshooting a
    Microsoft® Windows® XP Operating System
    Microsoft Certified Professional Supporting Users and Troubleshooting
    Desktop Applications on a Microsoft® Windows® XP Operating System
    Microsoft Certified Professional PRO: Optimizing and Maintaining a
    Database Administration Solution by Using Microsoft® SQL Server™ 2005
    Microsoft Certified System Administrator (Win2000)
    Microsoft Certified System Administrator (Win2003)
    Microsoft Certified System Engineer (NT 3.51)
    Microsoft Certified System Engineer (NT 4)
    Microsoft Certified System Engineer (Win2000)
    Microsoft Certified System Engineer (Win2003)
    Microsoft Certified System Engineer + Internet
    Microsoft Certified Professional + Internet
    Microsoft Certified Database Administrator
    Microsoft Certified Trainer
    Mircosoft Certified Desktop Support Technician
    CompTIA A+
    CompTIA Net+
    CompTIA Server+
    Compaq ASE
    Compaq AIS
    Compaq APS
    Cisco CCNA
    Cisco CCDA
    HP CSC, CSE
    MCNGP
    Certified PITA {$1 to M. Bell}
    FSM Ninja
    and all the rest I've forgotten
    http://www.manlaws.com/
    http://www.darwinawards.com/
     
    Neil, Apr 8, 2007
    #9
  10. Michael D. Alligood

    CBIC Guest

    Re: Certifications... Worth it?

    "Neil" <guess!!!@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:Xns990BC8FC9FF45neilmcsegmailcom@207.46.248.16...
    > did you hear ".rev [MCT]" <> say in
    > news::
    >
    >>
    >> Also I've decided to amend my signature
    >> to more easily blend in with the new look of the NG's.
    >>
    >> Rev. Stephen Charles Rea D.Div [MCNGP #44]
    >> --
    >> Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP Windows XP Professional)
    >> Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator (MCSA Windows 2003 Server)
    >> Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator: Messaging (MCSAM Windows
    >> 2003 Server)
    >> Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator: Security (MCSAS Windows
    >> 2003 Server)
    >> Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (MCSE Windows 2003 Server)
    >> Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer: Messaging (MCSEM Windows 2003
    >> Server) Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer: Security (MCSES Windows
    >> 2003 Server) Microsoft Certified Desktop Support Technician (MCDST
    >> Windows XP Professional)
    >> Microsoft Certified Database Administrator (MCDBA SQL Server 2000)
    >> Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist (MCTS SQL Server 2005)
    >> Microsoft Certified IT Professional: Database Administrator (MCITP:DBA
    >> SQL Server 2005)
    >> Microsoft Certified Trainer (MCT)
    >> CompTIA A+ Certified Professional
    >> CompTIA Network+ Certified Professional
    >> CompTIA Server+ Certified Professional
    >> CompTIA i-Net+ Certified Professional
    >> CompTIA e-Biz+ Certified Professional
    >> CompTIA Project+ Certified Professional
    >> CompTIA Security+ Certified Professional
    >> ETA Computer Service Technician (CST)
    >> ETA Certified Network Systems Technician (CNST)
    >> ETA Certified Web Specialist (CWS)
    >>
    >> Register your next MCP exam with VUE and save 20%. Use the discount
    >> voucher code, MSUU7C1E9359 Register online at vue.com or by phone @
    >> 800.837.8734
    >>
    >> TechNet -
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/beta/moderators/rea.mspx
    >>
    >> MCNGP - http://www.mcngp.com
    >>
    >> Stupid Laws - http://www.justafreak.com/law/index.shtml
    >>
    >> Random Link - http://www.ipchicken.com/
    >> .

    >
    > I'm only doing this because I'm mean and have no imminent desire for my
    > MVP.
    >
    > oh and a cert without experience is more worthless than a BA in mideval
    > lit.
    >
    > --
    > The InterNeil MCNGP Triple X
    >
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Implementing and Supporting Microsoft®
    > Windows NTT Server 3.51
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Implementing and Supporting Microsoft®
    > Windows NTT Workstation 3.51
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Implementing and Supporting NTT Server
    > 4.0
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Networking Essentials
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Implementing and Supporting Microsoft®
    > Exchange Server 4.0
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Implementing and Supporting NTT 4.0
    > Workstation
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Implementing and Supporting Microsoft®
    > Windows®95
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Internetworking with Microsoft® TCP/IP
    > on Microsoft® Windows NTT 4.0
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Implementing and Supporting NTT Server
    > 4.0 in the Enterprise
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Implementing and Supporting Microsoft®
    > Exchange Server 5.5
    > Microsoft Certified Professional System Administration of Microsoft® SQL
    > ServerT 6.5
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Implementing and Supporting Microsoft®
    > Internet Information Server 4.0
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Implementing & Supporting the Microsoft®
    > Internet Explorer Admin Kit for Microsoft® IE 4.0
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Implementing and Supporting Microsoft®
    > Windows® 98
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Updating Support Skills from Microsoft®
    > Windows NTT 4.0 to WindowsT 2000
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Microsoft® Windows® 2000 Accelerated
    > Exam for MCPs Certified on Microsoft® Windows NT® 4.0
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Designing a Microsoft® Windows® 2000
    > Directory Services Infrastructure
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Supporting and Maintaining a Microsoft®
    > Windows NT® Server 4.0 Network
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Managing a Windows 2000 Network
    > Environment
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Installing, Configuring, and
    > Administering Microsoft® SQL ServerT 2000 Enterprise Edition
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Managing and Maintaining a Microsoft
    > Windows Server 2003 Environment for an MCSA Certified on Windows 2000
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Planning, Implementing, and Maintaining
    > a Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Environment for an MCSE Certified on
    > Windows 2000
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Designing and Implementing Databases
    > with Microsoft® SQL ServerT 2000 Enterprise Edition
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Supporting Users and Troubleshooting a
    > Microsoft® Windows® XP Operating System
    > Microsoft Certified Professional Supporting Users and Troubleshooting
    > Desktop Applications on a Microsoft® Windows® XP Operating System
    > Microsoft Certified Professional PRO: Optimizing and Maintaining a
    > Database Administration Solution by Using Microsoft® SQL ServerT 2005
    > Microsoft Certified System Administrator (Win2000)
    > Microsoft Certified System Administrator (Win2003)
    > Microsoft Certified System Engineer (NT 3.51)
    > Microsoft Certified System Engineer (NT 4)
    > Microsoft Certified System Engineer (Win2000)
    > Microsoft Certified System Engineer (Win2003)
    > Microsoft Certified System Engineer + Internet
    > Microsoft Certified Professional + Internet
    > Microsoft Certified Database Administrator
    > Microsoft Certified Trainer
    > Mircosoft Certified Desktop Support Technician
    > CompTIA A+
    > CompTIA Net+
    > CompTIA Server+
    > Compaq ASE
    > Compaq AIS
    > Compaq APS
    > Cisco CCNA
    > Cisco CCDA
    > HP CSC, CSE
    > MCNGP
    > Certified PITA {$1 to M. Bell}
    > FSM Ninja
    > and all the rest I've forgotten
    > http://www.manlaws.com/
    > http://www.darwinawards.com/


    That's pretty impressive you two. I still think my CDL has you all beat
    though.
     
    CBIC, Apr 9, 2007
    #10
  11. Re: Certifications... Worth it?

    "Michael D. Alligood" <> wrote in
    news::

    >> Register your next MCP exam with VUE and save 20%. Use the discount
    >> voucher code, MSUU7C1E9359 Register online at vue.com or by phone @
    >> 800.837.8734

    >


    Too bad I didn't see this last thursday! Hopefully the code (or one
    similar) appears when I'm ready for the 70-293!
     
    Red Swingline Stapler, Apr 9, 2007
    #11
  12. Michael D. Alligood

    JaR Guest

    Re: Certifications... Worth it?

    ..rev [MCT] wrote:
    > IT Certifications are worthless without experience. Knowledge is power.
    > Certification is paper. Also I've decided to amend my signature to more
    > easily blend in with the new look of the NG's.
    >
    > Rev. Stephen Charles Rea D.Div [MCNGP #44]
    > --
    > Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP Windows XP Professional)
    > Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator (MCSA Windows 2003 Server)
    > Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator: Messaging (MCSAM Windows 2003
    > Server)
    > Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator: Security (MCSAS Windows 2003
    > Server)

    <blindingly long list snipped>

    *Hands Rev a Guinness with a grin*

    --
    JaR
    Laughing Out Loud
    Remove hat to reply
     
    JaR, Apr 9, 2007
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  13. Michael D. Alligood

    JaR Guest

    Re: Certifications... Worth it?

    Neil wrote:
    <snip another mind-numbing list of certs>

    Some people will do anything for a Guinness {-D

    *Hands Neil a bottle with a Rocket Widget too*

    --
    JaR
    That's it! I ain't buying no more carp beer!
    Remove hat to reply
     
    JaR, Apr 9, 2007
    #13
  14. Michael D. Alligood

    Neil Guest

    Re: Certifications... Worth it?

    did you hear JaR <> say in news:#QBBO7reHHA.4564
    @TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

    > *Hands Rev a Guinness with a grin*


    HEY! Where's mine?

    --
    The InterNeil MCNGP Triple X

    - Always remember to Pillage BEFORE you Burn.
     
    Neil, Apr 10, 2007
    #14
  15. Michael D. Alligood

    catwalker63 Guest

    Re: Certifications... Worth it?

    Neil piffled away vaguely:

    > did you hear JaR <> say in news:#QBBO7reHHA.4564
    > @TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:
    >
    >> *Hands Rev a Guinness with a grin*

    >
    > HEY! Where's mine?
    >

    Try the sekrit clubhouse. I believe it's waiting there, if someone
    hasn't nabbed it already. You really shouldn't leave stuff like that
    lying around too long.
    --

    Catwalker
    MCNGP #43
    www.mcngp.com
    "I have a gun. It's loaded. Shut up."
     
    catwalker63, Apr 10, 2007
    #15
  16. Michael D. Alligood

    CertGuard Guest

    Re: Certifications... Worth it?

    "Neil" <guess!!!@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:Xns990EA1E5AC250neilmcsegmailcom@207.46.248.16...
    > did you hear JaR <> say in news:#QBBO7reHHA.4564
    > @TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:
    >
    >> *Hands Rev a Guinness with a grin*

    >
    > HEY! Where's mine?
    >

    *grin*


    You're welcome!
    --
    CG
     
    CertGuard, Apr 10, 2007
    #16
  17. Michael D. Alligood

    catwalker63 Guest

    Re: Certifications... Worth it?

    CertGuard piffled away vaguely:

    >
    >
    > "Neil" <guess!!!@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:Xns990EA1E5AC250neilmcsegmailcom@207.46.248.16...
    >> did you hear JaR <> say in news:#QBBO7reHHA.4564
    >> @TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:
    >>
    >>> *Hands Rev a Guinness with a grin*

    >>
    >> HEY! Where's mine?
    >>

    > *grin*
    >
    >
    > You're welcome!


    OK, TMML.

    --

    Catwalker
    MCNGP #43
    www.mcngp.com
    "I have a gun. It's loaded. Shut up."
     
    catwalker63, Apr 10, 2007
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